If It Were 100 A.D & Christians Were Fed To Lions It Would Poison The Lions.

[TheMastersNemesis]

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Evangelical Christians are as toxic as ISIS. Even though they have not slain anyone yet, there is murder in their heart.

[F4lconF16]

1. Yep.

Even though they have not slain anyone yet, there is murder in their heart.

A point I just made in this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/123038730

Note: that thread is a protected group. Please watch your responses.

[el_bryanto]

4. That forum would be a good place for this thread. nt

[F4lconF16]

6. Fine. Fundamentalist evangelicals.

Given recent events, it was pretty clear what was being said. There are a lot of religious attacks and bigotry coming from fundamentalist evangelicals on women and LGBT right now. I'm pretty sure many of them would happily persecute and eventually kill if they could. And as someone else said, they very well may have already caused the deaths of many women through abortion restrictions--they have in the past. Not to mention the whole AIDs thing, anti-birth control, etc., etc.

And yeah, we know. Us atheists just hate every last one of you believers and we all think you're murderers.

Just stop, please.

Agree this belongs in the religion forum.

[rug]

9. "Us atheists"?

Is there now a membership card and mission statement I should know about?

[F4lconF16]

13. Yes! There is, actually!

I got mine recently



I can now legally marry people!

Okay, sorry...just thought we could use some lightheartedness. This is why I usually avoid these discussions lol. I'm more fun to talk to in person.

[hobbit709]

17. The Possibly Proper Death Litany

Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen.

[F4lconF16]

22. I love that.

But on the other hand, I really couldn't care less about what a being might think of me, nor would I want any benefits that come from it. As far as I'm concerned, if they exist, they are one heck of a screwed-up being, and I sure as heck want nothing to do with it.

But I love that prayer-thing, whatever you want to call it. I don't think I've ever seen even any legal writing that matches up to that as covering all your bases.

[hobbit709]

23. A classic from Roger Zelazny's "Creatures Of Light And Darkness"

[el_bryanto]

24. I didn't attack atheists - I just suggested that if you want a blanket attack on evengelicals

The AA forum is a good place to do it.

Bryant

[F4lconF16]

26. Yeahhh...nope.

Not biting. Have a good day. It's sunny out in Seattle--hope it's nice where you are.

[Cleita]

2. Who says they haven't killed anyone? I wonder how many women

have died for not being able to get cancer screenings because of their war to shut down Planned Parenthood clinics and others that cater to women's health.

[hrmjustin]

3. That is a rather blanket statement about evangelicals.

And doesn't this belong in the religion room?

[hobbit709]

5. feed them to the crocodiles.

[rug]

8. Are you also advocating executing evangelical Christians?

[hobbit709]

10. Until I see one fed to the crocs or lions at halftime

I don't want to hear one word about persecution.

But they certainly want to do that and worse to those that don't believe in their version of imaginary sky wizards.

And the Xians I get along with don't go around patting themselves on the back for being such a good Xian, they just live it.

[rug]

7. Really?

You also contradict yourself.

Evangelical Christians are as toxic as ISIS. Even though they have not slain anyone yet

[Throd]

11. You seem eager to feed the lions.

[Archae]

12. Christians being fed to the lions is a myth.

http://www.cracked.com/article_20536_5-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-ancient-civilizations.html

[hobbit709]

14. So are their constant claims of persecution.

[hrmjustin]

15. They were persecuted in the early church.

[hobbit709]

19. We're talking about today

and they persecuted each other back then too-See Albigensian Crusade

[hrmjustin]

20. Christians are not persecuted in this nation and at times are the persecutors here.

In other nstions Christians are persecuted.

[Archae]

16. But, but, if they can't do whatever THEY want, it's "persecution!"

BTW, this artist, Dana Simpson, has a syndicated comic strip out now, "Phoebe and Her Unicorn."

[hrmjustin]

18. The persecutions were not a myth.

Whether they were actually fed to the lions is up for debate.

[LanternWaste]

21. at Easter services this past weekend we were indeed, wondering which visiting baby to roast on the s

Well, at Easter services this past weekend we were indeed, wondering which visiting baby to roast on the spit and have for brunch. But, first thing being first, we stepped onto the parking lot and screamed how persecuted we feel-- not because it's true mind you, but a spectacle does tend to attract the low hanging fruit to the spectator's stands.

Then we played slow-pitch softball.

[Drahthaardogs]

25. Evangelical Christians share few customs or beliefs with the early Church.

Coptic, Orthodoxy, Eastern Rite, Catholic Churches are much truer to original teaching and have very little in common with the Evangelical movements.

Essentially,when you decide that you can only gain Heaven through faith and your works matter nothing at all, it pretty much frees you up to be a big prick and take no accountability.

[F4lconF16]

27. I don't know if you've read this...

But it's a pretty good article, and expounds on that idea well.

Alternet.org...

[Drahthaardogs]

30. That is not really what I meant.

Here is what I meant.

Traditional Christian Doctrine holds that faith and works cannot be separated out. That "Faith without works is dead". The Born-Again movement eschews this philosophy and holds that only through faith can man be saved, e.g. sola fide or "Faith Alone". When you espouse this belief, it frees you up to be accountable to no one. It is like a 500 lb person saying, 'screw it, I will eat the extra big mac, what does it matter at this point?" Not all Protestants are "Faith Alone", but all "Faith Alone" are Protestants. It is completely against Orthodox and Catholic dogma, no matter which rite is practised.

The article you posted is an attack against those who believe in "invisible" forces, beings, and rules", yet they do exist in the universe, yes? See Dr. Gerald Schroeder's take on invisible forces, laws, etc. You may or may not agree, but if nothing else, it makes you think.

[F4lconF16]

31. Ah, I see.

Thank you for your response--I do not agree, but something to think about. And I appreciate the clarification.

[hifiguy]

33. "Evangelical Xtianity" is a product of crackpots from England

and mostly the US. Because in the US any nutbag could grab a bible, start bullshitting and claim to be a "minister" many did. In European countries with state religions, particularly where Orthodox and Catholic churches were dominant, this literally could not happen.

Jefferson and Madison doubtless thought that "religious freedom" would bee a safeguard for people like Roger Williams and sects like the Quakers. I very much doubt that they anticipated the fly-eating, lizard people crazues and scamming hucksters, from Robertson to Joseph Smith to L. Ron Hubbard, that have hidden behind it for the last 200 years.

Towards the end of their lives Jefferson wrote John Adams that he wished he had told Madison to put freedom from religion into the Constitution. John Adams concurred wholeheartedly that the failure to do so had been a grave mistake.

[Quantess]

28. Evangelical Christians are not nearly as violent as Muslim Extremists.

At least, they haven't been for a while. ISIS is ahead right now when it comes to senseless killings.

[NaturalHigh]

29. Do you do anything but make hit-and-run OPs?

Take this to the religion group. You'll find plenty of company bashing any particular religion you want.

[hifiguy]

32. Try crocodiles instead.

They eat their prey bones and all. I think a croc would be able to handle chowing down on them.

And they have killed people. The abortion doctor in Kansas, IIRC, for one.


ETA: Now THIS is a church I can believe in:http://dudeism.com/

Seriously thinking of getting myself ordained as a Dudeist priest: http://dudeism.com/ordination-form/

[greatauntoftriplets]

34. Sorry but we're locking this because it doesn't conform to the GD SOP.

Please re-post it in Religion.