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http://www.politicususa.com/bill-maher-obama-second-term-fail.htmlBill Maher Gut Punches the Right by Exposing Their Racial Anti-Obama Motivation
By: Jason EasleyMay 5, 2012
On his HBO show Bill Maher explained the rights desperate need to beat Obama in 2012, and why a second Obama term is more important for African-Americans than his first.
Video @ link~
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It is astounding that as a nation, the United States is in a position where the validity of the concept of electing minorities to the highest office in the land is up for debate, but this is where a loud and vocal segment of the right has chosen to make their last stand. Make no mistake about it, 2012 is their last stand. Republicans understand that their behavior and positions on African-Americans, Hispanics, and women will make very difficult for the party to win a presidential election if Barack Obama wins in 2012.
There will be no novelty excuse for the right if Obama wins reelection. If Obama is able to win a second term powered by a coalition of young voters, African-Americans, women, Hispanics, and other minorities, it will signal the official demise of the small tent angry white man Republican Party. The nomination of Mitt Romney makes perfect sense when viewed from this perspective. Romney is the walking, talking, living, breathing embodiment of angry conservative white male privilege.
Obamas first victory was historic, but his second victory will change the way our nation views presidential candidates. The door wont be kicked open for all minorities. It is a travesty that this nation has not yet elected a female president, but a secret unspoken bias will be shattered with an Obama win in 2012. After eight years of Obamas leadership, there would never again be nothing unusual about African-American president.
Maher was correct. A second Obama victory is more important than the first. President Obama himself represents a form of progress that the right is desperate to stop. If Obama wins reelection that progress will not be denied, and the privileged white male will forever have to share his formerly exclusive lease on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with everyone else, and as Bill Maher put it this is what the right is hoping and praying does not happen.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)Racists either don't care about being racists or are in such denial that BM doesn't even register.
Bill and Jason are rallying all those who have been disappointed over the last 3 years because who on the left doesn't like denying racists their victory.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Interesting how non conservative white males were left out of the coalition, evidently Maher thinks we're such an endangered species as to be not worth mentioning even though he is one himself.
CBHagman
(16,984 posts)Let's face it: White males still make up the bulk of progressive figures in business, politics, and the media. There are more women, Asians, Latinos, and African-Americans in Democratic and generally progressive groups, but reports of the demise of the nonconservative white male are greatly exaggerated, I believe, especially among the younger demographic.
Edited to add link to Pew study on younger voters in the 2008 election.
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1031/young-voters-in-the-2008-election
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Appearances to the contrary most of us aren't in "business, politics or the media", so whether white males there or not are liberals really doesn't mean much out on Main Street.
CBHagman
(16,984 posts)And getting back to the quote from Maher about the coalition that would reelect the president, I don't draw the same conclusion as you.
madokie
(51,076 posts)The old white man's club can't be having a black man win two terms. They think the first one snook up on them and are going into this next one with eyes wide open, Money is no object, defeating the black man is
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)and have had these conversations with:
Me, my friends, my family and others that I know who just happen to be black Americans strongly believe that the hatred for Obama goes much deeper than just the party. Yes, Jimmy Carter was treated with hatred and disdain. Sure, Bill and Hillary's mistreatment was absolutely despicable! However, none of us have ever witnessed such utter contempt for one man before. And we ALL believe that it is because those who loathe him are not only hating him for being a Democrat; they loathe him because he is black. And that hatred goes deeper to the extent that they never want to see another black American as president in our history.
And I am firm on this: I don't think some white Americans fully understand how serious this is for black America!
If Obama loses reelection, we will not see another black American--male or female--as president in our lifetime or the next.
BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)There's a sickness so deep, so ingrained, so mutli-generational, so foaming-at-the-mouth evil, that for us witnessing it, it really does hurt deep down.
But I do know that when we say "keep your eyes on the prize", I think - "hey, we sure did get a big prize", and how you can tell is how much time, effort, and money the losers are spending trying to take it away.
Any sick society willing to spend double the money to set aside "white" water fountains and "colored" water fountains, or bathrooms, or waiting rooms, or cemeteries, schools, transit, etc., is a society that needs some serious help psychologically. Today, the descendants of those sick people are willing to bring down the entire economy for the same reasons of hegemony and privilege.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)And multi-generational is the key= it does not go away with the passing of one generation,
The current one or the one around in 1870
, or 1970
I think the last drinking fountains like that ended 1967 no way magic fairy dust changed the USA into a place by 1970 with everyone holding hands as one.
Yeah if you were listening to some Beatle song at Cornell in 70 it looked good but step down to Alabama or S.C. the same day for reality check or Chicago,IL suburb of Cicero for that matter
Having everyone drink from the same water fountain by law does not change a heart or mind or family myths about others not like them
It just changes the law and has them dig their heels into the ground even further and complain to their youth about more disintegration of their racist way of life
which is how they think all should live in this country
look at the money they are donating to racists talking heads / representatives now and the emphasis on guns/violence rising again over race
their hearts and minds are still sick just a new monetary tactic and more distrust of government as it works against their beliefs of how it should always be forever time. They know preservation means educating the youth to defend their beliefs . Like a virus they become sick as you said too then.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)And the racists are *way* overrepresented in that demographic..
I hope prospects are not as dire as you describe.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)to be racists, too. I'm 1 of 5 kids. And I'm the only one who's not racist. And that's because I left and never looked back. They're still stuck spiritually and educationally and physically, right where they were way back then. And they've raised RW children, too.
Botany
(70,501 posts).... their hating for the pure sake of hatred stop. One can only hope that younger generations
will be less burdened by bigotry and by the use of "their Jesus" to help explain their thoughts
and actions to themselves.
Good for 100 old white men's heart attacks
lunasun
(21,646 posts)and Marvin Gaye sang the Star Spangled Banner 1983. OMG
Our job was a response position so we could have the TV on and it was way too much for some at work to endure- and the comments after didn't matter who was in the room.
Imagined a stroke more than heart attack but guess what they all survived ; didn't they???
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)If Obama loses reelection, we will not see another black American--male or female--as president in our lifetime or the next.
I'm not entirely sure about this bit but I agree 100% with the rest. Obama has inspired so many black people and other minorities (it's not just black folks who love him and are inspired. Asians and Hispanics love him as well and the article has already mentioned his high marks with women) that there may be another brother or sister not too far behind him. And that would just drive the racists crazy.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)I am not Black, but I'm with you 100% on this. I've been a little disappointed with PRESIDENT Obama, ( I always precede his name with his title, not something I generally have done with presidents, but an important reminder in this case) but I am appalled with the disrespect shown him by the right wing.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)will still not be just a novelty to millions. It happened. Nothing can take that away.
But a second term will be a reaffirmation that times have changed. That's not why I'm voting for Obama, though. I think he's the ONLY logical choice and has done a good job, considering the awful mess he's had to deal with.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)would be an even larger object lesson. It is one we should attempt to serve them.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)a second term is a bigger test than the first election.
hue
(4,949 posts)"Good 'Ol Boys". They coalesced in the US as the KKK, "upstanding" citizens hiding under their white robes & burning crosses. Then they progressed into the upper classes amassing more $$ and power through connections, loop holes and their corporate strategies. They have their secrete meetings and agendas to decide on which legislation would benefit themselves and their ALEC forces mobilizing/ actualizing their power grabs.
As Ayn Rand said, "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me."
Guess what, maybe it's Obama!!
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)HELLO
spooky3
(34,444 posts)quoted in the OP?
marble falls
(57,080 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)John Stewart when he said "They hate Obama more than love Jesus"
Thier hatred supersedes anything and everything. Although the corporate media always showcase that majority of the evangelicals will not vote for Pres O I beg to differ. Actually, majority of the so called evangelicals who are racist such as the KKK and most goppers will not vote for Pres O, including other so called Christian denominations, and non Christian religions.
As usual, the GOP party does not have a cap on Religion. I would say that religion makes up more than half of America. I belong to a church that highly respects Pres O and there are many, same with religious people who support and will vote for Pres O, so yea, another BS notion from the GOP claiming that they have religion in their pockets.
crazylikafox
(2,755 posts)A one term black man who wasn't up to the job. The black Jimmy Carter.
Rmoney's already campaigning on the notion that he's "a nice man, but he's over his head." Never mind that the economy has steadily improved under his leadership. Never mind that he took out Bin Ladin when Bush couldn't do it for 8 years. etc etc etc....
It's imperative that we give Obama the affirmation of a 2nd term.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)And a major key to this is getting more Hispanics/Latinos and African Americans registered to vote.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)pass voter ID laws. Bullshit. A "solution" for a problem that doesn't exist -- disenfranchisement pure and simple, anticipating that blacks and Latinos and the young can be dissuaded from voting by roadblocks and technicalities.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)This is more reflective of the progressive change embraced by the majority of the people, rather than the Progressive policies enacted by the administration.
Go people!
Romney is toast.
sendero
(28,552 posts)...and worse about Obama because I believe he wasted too much precious time going for the "bipartiisan" style when anyone with 2 brain cells could have told him that Repubs were not going to "work with him".
It seems like he gets that now and I guess better late than never. Pissing off racists is a good enough reason for me to hope he wins in Nov, and I think he has a very good chance.
Igel
(35,300 posts)"...his second victory will change the way our nation views presidential candidates" all but concedes the point he's arguing about.
If there was no novelty effect in 2008, then there's nothing to change as far as "our nation" is concerned--just the opinions of a few racist conservatives.
In any event, even if he concedes that point he still gets causality backwards. If Obama is re-elected it will (again, IMHO) show that "our nation" already "kicked open the door" for minorities (although, apparently, that "minority" that forms a majority of the US population, females). One doesn't change the electorate to garner election after having won the election, does one?
Of course, the "kicking open of the door"--an unnecessarily "home invasion" or "Gestapo police tactic" analogy--is really having the American populace, home owners and key wielders, kicking open their own door by electing Obama. However, as a black man I guess we have to think of Obama as kicking open doors, otherwise he's not sufficiently aggressive.
Too much "president as motivator and mover of The People" and not enough of "president as the person presiding over the executive branch of a government of the people." Some continue to seek modern-day Sauls. The Davids don't stand a chance.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)babylonsister
If I have had the possibility of voting for a president in the US, I would have voted for Barack Obama. Not because he is black, or that he is a novelty.. Mostly because he, from where I stand IS the better candidate for the job.. The republican candidates, have shown again and again to be extremely stupid, and out of touch with what USA need to get to safe grounds where it come to almost everything.. Mr Obama is maybe not the liberal person many of us believed when he was elected - but he have had a Congress and a Senate who have made every step in the direction of making things better a very difficult one.. I bet he have had to swallow a few "camels" in the hope of making progress that will make progress possible.. And the republicans have used all this "camels" for what it is wort, to make their own agenda worse and worse.. Many of this would never had been known, if it was not for Democratic Underground, and the community here, who have been digging up a lot of "dirt" on the republican side, who should be used to "kill" any hope of an republican president in 2012, or later ones.. The republican Party have indeed made them self their worst enemy the last couple of years.. Specially after Obama got elected, their hate, their unwillingness to work together for a greater good and try to repair the smoking ruin the legacy of mr Bush jr indeed have given US have shown what the republicans is today...
I do not believe Romney to be the best candidate. In fact I do not believe any republicans today is able, or willing to really do the right thing - but rather let the thing slide for as long as possible - and then say "sorry times up, we got ours, you are on your own suckers".. Even when most Republicans would be in the same bag as the rest of america - and be the "suckers"..
And one thing I do fear, from my humble knowledge about history, is that the systems some republicans want US to be, is a country not stable, and where revolutions and violence against the "noble ones" could end rather nasty for them.. US have had an amazing possibility to make buffers, so it would not end that way - but from what I have read here on DU, and other lesser known sites, many americans today is rather desperate, and angry about how things have stared to go.. If the powers to be, do not understand this, and turn around to make it better, it could end in civil wars - and also in a bloody revolution, where things could go bad, really bad.. Remember Europe is a Continent who have known a lot of bloody revolutions since The french revolution of 1789.. It could happened in the US too, if the in-equality goes to wild.. History know no ends when it came to violence when in-Justice goes to long without been minded..
President Barack Obama was a "record breaker" in many ways when he got elected, and should be remembered for it, for all future. But as it stand today, I firmly believe that Obama IS the best candidate, the most possible republican candidate mr Romney is not it... Not to say, it exist an republican candidate today that is able to work for the better good either.. To me from the outside, it looks like the republican party is been taken over by a group of extremists, who is not afraid longer to admit they exist, and is hellbent of ruining everything that have ever been build by government to the better of "everyone else"...
Diclotican
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He is a classy upstanding person with a working ability but is fighting hatred every day. The repubs has a cultist nature going and I believe the old conservatives who wanted fisical responsibility has allowed the tea party, anti-abortion and neo-Nazi to overtake their party in order to win. I hope sanity will return to them. Problem is they do not have a strong leader to bring them back.
We the sane party is going to have to turn out to vote and get our party members out also in order to save our great nation. VOTE
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Thinkingabout
I think the tea-party, the "good old neo-nazis ts" and other rather nasty groups on the fringe have stolen the GOP, and made it into something that I doubt many "conservatives" or less moderate conservatives in GOP is to happy about. But the neo-nazis, the Tea Party and the other groups is just to vocal to be be stoped... I fear the tea parties, and the rest of this fanatical have to burn out as a nasty illness - before the more moderate parts of the GOP can take over again, and turn the republican party around to some form of sensibility it once had... But that will be a long, hard and brutal turn-around as the GOP have going out on the deep end of the pool, and let the crazy ones make the shots for a long time... Specially since Reagan the fringes on the extreme right in the republican party have made it policy to be loud and go for power.. Today they have most of the positions filled with "their own" and the whole party are a mad-house.. I know a few republicans, who live in Norway, who is disgusted by what their party have been made into the last couple of decades.. But at least the last decade they have been rather "turned off" by the whole thing... And one I know, even voted Democratic last presidential election, and he had been a member of the republican party since he was 18 (he is a old man now and have lived abroad for many years)
Diclotican
micraphone
(334 posts)I am outside USA too and am continually amazed at the stupidity and totally transparent pandering of the Repug candidates.
Even more puzzling is the willingness of some to continually vote against their own self-interest. Racism is indeed well entrenched, still.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)micraphone
I for one find it puzzling, and weird that the stupidity and totally transparent pandering of the extreme republicans is not enough to get americans up from whatever thing they are doing, to demand they act better?.. I have always wondered about how it is possible to sometimes have a better knowledge about things inside US, than many inside the US have even when it is clear as day what is happening....
Racism is maybe one of the reason many on the right would vote against their own interest, but I doubt that so many americans could be that racist, that they would let another "nut-case" get into the white house.. But yes, I know a few americans who blew their fuses when in 2008 an american president was voted into office - as the United States President no less.. I had to admit I was little surprised about it, but it was always great fun to se how the "conservatives" got problems telling the fact, that a BLACK man was voted into office as a president... That was always a killer of fun to look at
The american electorate have always puzzled me, for some reason they are always able to vote into office people who I doubt would have been elected into a local consul in most of europe... I guess this is something I wil never be able to understand really..
Diclotican
goclark
(30,404 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)azureblue
(2,146 posts)as evidenced by their hysterical efforts to stop minorities from voting, especially their trumped up, lie filled war on voter fraud. I think this election will be decided before voting day- if the GOP managed to win their all out attack on voting rights, they will have a chance at winning the election. If they fail to disenfranchise, they know they have let the election. So ever state must make sure that these voter restriction laws are stopped dead in there tracks. Make sure the voting machines are not tampered with. Make sure the officials who are involved with vote tabulation are closely watched and kept honest. My guess is the GOP hopes that by cheating a little here, stopping a few from voting there, "losing" a few votes over there, etc., they can win. While the race kicks in, we must be diligent to make sure the GOP, in their usual sneaky, cheating ways, is not winning the war on the votes themselves..
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and at other times REALLY pisses me off.
but not this time. he has some really good thoughts and ways of delivery that very few have.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)it will be a hard driven nail into the coffin lid of the "angry white male". They are trying to avoid that at all costs because then is when they will have to realize that this country no longer tacks in that direction--that we aren't going to go back to the 1920's where no one had rights save white xtian males: minorities certainly didn't and women most of all didn't.