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(9,688 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)chance of winning.
delrem
(9,688 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)I'm not sure where this is coming from. If he's a liberal then Elizabeth Warren is a conservative if you go by the record.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)...voted against IWR, anti death penalty.
I'm freaking thrilled, and he is (as of yet) the only candidate I would go back to knocking on doors for.
He was more progressive than most Dems when he was in the senate, and I'd be proud to back him.
REP
(21,691 posts)He seems to be a very old school Republican (government shouldn't regulate the private lives of the people) and he seems to actually believe in doing the right thing because it is the right thing.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)IWR, is anti gun control (or apathetic), had to be dragged to marriage equality, is pro death penalty, is willing to trade off environmental issues, is willing to let women's reproductive rights be a bargaining chip...
Hell yeah, and then I'll hold his feet to the fire for that stance. Because that's what you do.
cali
(114,904 posts)supported affirmative action and abortion rights, etc.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Being a lifelong democrat (since she was old enough to vote) and being a great supporter of social rights (including affirmative action, abortion rights, climate change, womens equality).
delrem
(9,688 posts)Hillary Clinton is Democratic.
There are differences of opinion about what it means, of course, but to suggest otherwise is absurd.
Not so about this other person.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)...by self-professed posters who will never vote for Hillary Clinton edit: nevermind she clarified here.
The dude is a dyed in wool Blue Dog. It's amusing how low the bar is for Anyone But Hillary. It cracks me the fuck up.
cali
(114,904 posts)and at least he's not a fool who voted for the IWR and then defended that vote for years. And yeah, you had to be a fool or an opportunist to vote for it.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Hillary is a hawk.
delrem
(9,688 posts)What more evidence is needed, for Dems to distinguish?
cali
(114,904 posts)His voting record is way more liberal than most Senate dems.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)He sure did not break away from the pack on that. So of course those who come pushing him as uber gay friendly always leave out DOMA. From Vermont, only Independent Bernie Sanders in the House voted against it. Boxer, Feinstein, Wyden, all no votes. Russ Feingold was a no vote.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)The only thing they can point to is the IRW vote. That's it.
I am not a single-issue voter. Never have been. But I've never voted for a Republican.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)us. Today he is a Democrat by definition even without changing parties.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)MineralMan
(146,308 posts)And there are DUers already defending him. He's a freaking Republican. No, thanks. He hasn't a prayer.
cali
(114,904 posts)Not a trick question: Which one voted for the atrocious IWR?
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It goes beyond IWR and on to being pro gun control, pro choice, pro marriage equality (and he wasn't even forced into it)... I could go on.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)I will not support anyone who has voted with the Republicans. Not a chance. You will do as you choose.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)See IWR vote for an example of voting with the Republicans.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Pretending that all those years of Republican policy which lead to that IWR vote are wiped away by his voting no is delusional. Like Warren, he was a Republican during the first Gulf War who continued to vote for Republicans named George Bush for years on end. That also counts for something. He's in his 60's, always been a Republican.
I've never voted for a Republican.
I have on the other hand already voted for 3 different IWR yes voters at the executive level. One assumes you have as well.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)She was a freaking Republican, too.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)After the convention, I will have a candidate. Only then.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If we accept Chomsky's premise that President Obama "would have been a moderate Republican in the 80s" what does that make a moderate Republican in the first decade of the twenty first century?
Somewhere to the right of Calvin Coolidge?
hack89
(39,171 posts)He won one term as an Independent, became a Democrat and decided not to run for a second term because of abysmal approval ratings. We can do better.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)He's a real alternative for the republicans, even they don't want another Bush.
If Chafee beat Hillary in a primary and won, I wouldn't be scared shitless.
I want to know where he stands on Soc. Sec. and Medicare.
We DO know who he feels about war.