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Philly Cops Challenge Black College Student to Pickup Basketball Game and Arrest Him After He Beats ThemPerhaps the officers were not happy about being schooled in basketball by a 21-year-old.
A black junior college basketball player said he was briefly detained by two Philadelphia police officers
The 21-year-old Hill said the officers joked that they didnt look very good and started talking trash so he challenged them to a game.
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A pair of short video clips posted on Vine, showing Hill beating the officers on crossover dribbles, went viral.
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He said the officers took him to the police station saying they thought they saw him with contraband, but they eventually let him go without charge.
They didnt explain it to me, Hill said. They just took me in there, handcuffed me to a bench for an hour and a half. They were doing a search on the car. They searched the car for like an hour. They didnt find nothing, and they let me go. The whole time they were telling me how they werent going to lock me up, that they were targeting my friend.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/philly-cops-challenge-black-college-student-pickup-basketball-game-and-arrest-him
tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)He was not arrested.
Rex
(65,616 posts)A person can be arrested if they are being held under suspicion and then released later.
EDIT - Maybe 'detained' would have been better wording. However, the person was not at liberty to just get up and leave...so yes they were under arrest.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Arrest and detained are two different things completely. You don't know the different.
"Arrest does not always mean the person must be booked and given a trial date.
A person can be arrested if they are being held under suspicion and then released later."
No. Words have definitions. You were so close when you mentioned detained because that is what happened. To be arrested you must be charged with a crime and booked. If you are not one of those two then you have not been arrested. While cops were dicks and all that, the young man was not arrested. He was harassed, detained and probably profiled but not arrested. You can't go around and change the meaning of words and still expect to communicate well.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
Goodbye.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)An officers brief and cursory holding and questioning someone is a detention. An example is a cop stopping someone who is behaving suspiciously in order to ask a few questions. The suspect isnt free to leave, but he also isnt under arrest, at least until the officer develops probable cause. Another common example is an officer pulling over a driver for some kind of traffic or equipment violation.
An arrest, on the other hand, involves the police taking someone into custody through a more significant restraint on movement. The quintessential example involves the use of handcuffs and an advisement that the suspect is under arrest. (See How do I know if Ive been arrested?)
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arrest-vs-detention-how-tell-whether-you-ve-been-arrested-simply-detained.html
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)...hug ever.
tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)What kind of people am I? Do you threaten people like me in person or just when safely posting anonymously on a message board? By the way, your threat of violence, disguised as a hug, would not change the fact that the young man was not arrested.
Logical
(22,457 posts)KG
(28,795 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Honestly, the first thing that comes to your minds about another story about cops out of control is semantics?????? Whatever it was it was wrong, and shows cops being, yet again, out of control assholes.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)of an indefensible argument is quibbling over word choice.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)that dude was guilty of was ankle-breaking. And when they told him they only play for money, I couldn't help but wonder if they lost a lot of money through pick-up games before. Both of them were trash!