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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:32 PM Apr 2015

Philly Cops Challenge Black College Student to Pickup Basketball Game — and Arrest Him

Philly Cops Challenge Black College Student to Pickup Basketball Game — and Arrest Him After He Beats Them
Perhaps the officers were not happy about being schooled in basketball by a 21-year-old.

A black junior college basketball player said he was briefly detained by two Philadelphia police officers

The 21-year-old Hill said the officers joked that they didn’t look very good and “started talking trash” – so he challenged them to a game.

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A pair of short video clips posted on Vine, showing Hill beating the officers on crossover dribbles, went viral.

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He said the officers took him to the police station saying they thought they saw him with contraband, but they eventually let him go without charge.

“They didn’t explain it to me,” Hill said. “They just took me in there, handcuffed me to a bench for an hour and a half. They were doing a search on the car. They searched the car for like an hour. They didn’t find nothing, and they let me go. The whole time they were telling me how they weren’t going to lock me up, that they were targeting my friend.”
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/philly-cops-challenge-black-college-student-pickup-basketball-game-and-arrest-him
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Philly Cops Challenge Black College Student to Pickup Basketball Game — and Arrest Him (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 OP
Nope. tazkcmo Apr 2015 #1
Arrest does not always mean the person must be booked and given a trial date. Rex Apr 2015 #3
That is not correct. Drahthaardogs Apr 2015 #4
No. tazkcmo Apr 2015 #5
Yes words mean something, I guess you should go look up what arrest means. nt Rex Apr 2015 #6
No. tazkcmo Apr 2015 #7
No. He was arrested. A person can be arrested without charge. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #8
I wish I could reach through the computer right now and give people like you the best... 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #9
Why? tazkcmo Apr 2015 #15
LOL, you are so clueless. nt Logical Apr 2015 #14
the daily isolated incident. KG Apr 2015 #2
Would it satisfy some of you word police to say the kid was "brought in"??? joeybee12 Apr 2015 #10
One of the key identifiers SwankyXomb Apr 2015 #11
Copologist are the first to play semantic games uponit7771 Apr 2015 #12
The only thing Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #13
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. Arrest does not always mean the person must be booked and given a trial date.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

A person can be arrested if they are being held under suspicion and then released later.

EDIT - Maybe 'detained' would have been better wording. However, the person was not at liberty to just get up and leave...so yes they were under arrest.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
4. That is not correct.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:59 PM
Apr 2015

Arrest and detained are two different things completely. You don't know the different.

tazkcmo

(7,419 posts)
5. No.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:00 PM
Apr 2015

"Arrest does not always mean the person must be booked and given a trial date.

A person can be arrested if they are being held under suspicion and then released later."


No. Words have definitions. You were so close when you mentioned detained because that is what happened. To be arrested you must be charged with a crime and booked. If you are not one of those two then you have not been arrested. While cops were dicks and all that, the young man was not arrested. He was harassed, detained and probably profiled but not arrested. You can't go around and change the meaning of words and still expect to communicate well.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Yes words mean something, I guess you should go look up what arrest means. nt
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:01 PM
Apr 2015

nt

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
8. No. He was arrested. A person can be arrested without charge.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:22 PM
Apr 2015
http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_searches/arrest-detention.htm

Detentions and Arrests
An officer’s “brief and cursory” holding and questioning someone is a detention. An example is a cop stopping someone who is behaving suspiciously in order to ask a few questions. The suspect isn’t free to leave, but he also isn’t under arrest, at least until the officer develops probable cause. Another common example is an officer pulling over a driver for some kind of traffic or equipment violation.
An arrest, on the other hand, involves the police taking someone into custody through a more significant restraint on movement. The quintessential example involves the use of handcuffs and an advisement that the suspect is under arrest. (See How do I know if I’ve been arrested?)


http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arrest-vs-detention-how-tell-whether-you-ve-been-arrested-simply-detained.html


 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
9. I wish I could reach through the computer right now and give people like you the best...
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:29 PM
Apr 2015

...hug ever.

tazkcmo

(7,419 posts)
15. Why?
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 12:56 PM
Apr 2015

What kind of people am I? Do you threaten people like me in person or just when safely posting anonymously on a message board? By the way, your threat of violence, disguised as a hug, would not change the fact that the young man was not arrested.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. Would it satisfy some of you word police to say the kid was "brought in"???
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:32 PM
Apr 2015

Honestly, the first thing that comes to your minds about another story about cops out of control is semantics?????? Whatever it was it was wrong, and shows cops being, yet again, out of control assholes.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
13. The only thing
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:28 PM
Apr 2015

that dude was guilty of was ankle-breaking. And when they told him they only play for money, I couldn't help but wonder if they lost a lot of money through pick-up games before. Both of them were trash!

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