Righties going nuts over Hillary's candidacy.

[Kingofalldems]

I actually like both her and Elizabeth for the record.

Love to see those idiots spit their cheetos onto the comments section.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/12/hillary-clintons-2016-presidential-bid-starts-today/

[hrmjustin]

1. I can not wait till she defeats the gop nominee.

Will be a joyous moment.

[HereSince1628]

8. I wish that arrow didn't point to the right.

The last 14 years of politics has been very creepy with symbols and intentions hidden in plain sight.

If she wins the nomination, I'm turning that avatar upside down so it points left.

[hrmjustin]

9. I think it means moving foward.

[HereSince1628]

10. Empircal evidence is it's pointing to the right directly at the word Hillary.

Which I think isn't accidental.

[hrmjustin]

11. I think it means moving foward.

My guess is it won't be the last.

[marlakay]

17. Husband and i were making a joke about it

Not only does it go right but its red...

I get the forward thing but did she have to make it red?

[hrmjustin]

18. It is meant to contrast against the blue.

[marlakay]

20. I would have picked any color then except red

Her video is good but i am not big on this arrow thing.

[hrmjustin]

21. Seems fair. my guess is it will be changed a few times.

[LiberalElite]

30. IMO when a campaign fools around

with the logo and changes it even once, it's not good omen. They end up losing. Maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. I -like- the color scheme.

But, then, I'm biased.

[Cha]

32. Then wikileaks is "right wing" too..

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026497049#top

[hrmjustin]

37. Ridiculous claim on thier part.

[DrDan]

34. red, white and blue . . . not hard to figure why it is red - if it wasn't someone would question

her patriotism

[Cha]

31. Then wikileaks is right wing, too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026497049#top

[treestar]

13. It's just to move forward and make a jazzy "H"

There is no way that's the intent.

Hillary is seen as liberal by most people.

[HereSince1628]

14. The intent is hidden...I explained why it makes me feel creepy

That isn't to say anything about Hillary.

Design layouts for trademarks however spontaneous they came into existence aren't usually adopted as accidents, and the best of them are not ambiguous in interpretation.

Similarly the choice of motto could be Hillary for AmericaNs rather than Hillary for America. There is a difference in the meaning, and the motto wasn't adopted by accident.

[Warren DeMontague]

25. You mean like "Obama for AmericaNS" or "Dean for AmericaNS"?

Nope, neither of those organizations actually existed, did they.

I think you're reading deep meaning and/or weird conspiracy intent into what are off the cuff design decisions and stylistic convention.

[HereSince1628]

28. Yes, actually,

My point being these things aren't accidents and small things can make big differences.

The design might be made on a spur of the moment, but the decisions to adopt aren't, and consideration of how they might or might not present message in ways not considered is typically part of such a process.

If it's thoughtless, as you suggest, then you suggest a different family of potential problems with the adoption of her logo.

[Warren DeMontague]

29. I think it's not the most aesthetically attractive logo i've seen. That doesnt imply "a family of

Potential Problems".

A campaign can survive an ugly logo. It can even survive having people who dont care if the logo is ugly.

If you're suggesting they "didn't care" about the direction of the arrow and what it might be taken to imply, that's not what I'm saying. i'm willing to bet they DID care, enough to say "okay, we want an arrow in the H to signify movement, progress, momentum. If we put it going right, sure, there will be some on DU, etc. who will flip out over it... But if we put it going LEFT, oh, fuck... We will never hear the fucking end of it from the GOP, etc. until the election... We wont even be able to talk about issues, because it will be all "but whataboutcher socialist saul alinsky arrow draggin the country to the far left" blah blah. We can't put it going Up- although up would probably be the preferred direction- because it would destroy the H. For too many reasons to name here, we can"t make it going down"

So there's a logical set of reasons why I could see them making this design choice, and NONE of them have to do with sending some secret message. It was their only available choice, I suspect.

[HereSince1628]

33. In being set up for mockery it's worse.

The original was an arrow shaped thingy applied to the top of the legs of the H.

Just stop and think for a moment about the mockery that makes possible.

[Warren DeMontague]

36. There is no lowbrow joke that I haven't already thought of.

But, again, her candidacy will not rise or fall on the logo. I'm pretty sure of that.

[DCBob]

2. The more the RW loons bash her the more I like her.

[Art_from_Ark]

27. It's just "good cop, bad cop"

The 1% would be perfectly comfortable with her.
But she would be better on social issues. As any Democrat would be.

[William769]

3. Any day they are pissed of, is a good day.

[hatrack]

35. What day aren't they pissed off?

The sun comes up, they're pissed off.

[RichGirl]

4. The best endorsement.....

The right wing hates her! It cries out for a bumpersticker!!

[Jamaal510]

16. +1

But to be fair, not many of them even know what the word "communist" means.

[Beacool]

5. Yes, check the Daily Mail site.

They are foaming at the mouth. It's so over the top that it's actually funny.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3035748/Everyday-Americans-need-champion-Wealthy-Hillary-Clinton-enters-race-president.html

[sharp_stick]

6. If it causes a few RW assholes

to keel over in anger I'll be more than happy.

[RichGirl]

12. They are pretty slow....

...so it probably hasn't registered yet that it means we will have Bill Clinton back in the White House!!

[sharp_stick]

15. I can almost see

the vein in Sean Hannity's neck ready to pop. If for nothing else I'll enjoy that./

[Stellar]

7. ehh...that's nothing new. Those people take pleasure in going nuts.

About everything and anything.

[NET]

19. They are scared of her

This is the one person the GOP didn't want to see run.

They didn't care about Warren or Sanders

Hillary will be the next POTUS

[lpbk2713]

22. That's a conundrum.

How is it possible to discern when a rightie is going nuts?

[Rex]

23. GOOD!

FUCK EM! EVERY LAST ONE!

[mfcorey1]

26. And the way it looks, some lefties on DU are also going crazy. Let the flaming

begin. It reminds me of the time when they bussed in people to anti Obama rallys as they held up their DON'T TREAD ON ME FLAGS. Whether she wins or is unsuccessful, I commend her for even again stepping into the acid filled pot of American politics.