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[valerief]

1. I don't like it either. Too pro-right. nt

[MannyGoldstein]

2. I disagree.

It's perfect.

Pointing right, featuring a triangle, red and blue at once.

[Renew Deal]

3. It's from the left

[RobertEarl]

6. It's truthful, eh?

[hrmjustin]

7. It points foward.

[MannyGoldstein]

29. That it points right is universally understood

Whether it points forward... AFAIK, there's no rule that right is forward.

[hrmjustin]

31. Because we read and write from left to right I take it to mean moving foward.

[MannyGoldstein]

33. Non-Semitic Privilege?

Or will the logo change in Middle Eastern countries?

[hrmjustin]

35. Are you kidding me?

[Action_Patrol]

36. Why on earth would this be posted in middle eastern countries?

[Agschmid]

39. It seems like FedEx and Amazon have come to that general understanding as well...

[MannyGoldstein]

45. Are they both not right-wing entities? nt

[Agschmid]

46. No they are not...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/the-politics-of-new-i-washington-post-i-owner-jeff-bezos/278385/

Sure not perfect, but hardly right wing entities.

[MannyGoldstein]

47. My bad, it used to be that "anti-union" = "right wing"

That's been changed, of course, by the Third Way.

[Agschmid]

48. Yes, your bad.

[AtheistCrusader]

67. Keep your powder dry. It's early.

We may not GET a better hat thrown in the ring. Or we may. Who knows.

I presume you would not prefer the republicans to secure the house, senate, and white house simultaneously, yes? If we don't get a better option... well. One would not enjoy a repeat of 108th congress and a small plant in the oval office. I would consider even a 3rd way Hillary a better outcome than that.

They'll be so busy trying to impeach her for farting in the oval office, they won't have time to try banning abortion, and all the other idiot ideas that pop into their brains.

[Fearless]

110. That's what happens if you choose candidates out of a fear of losing to Republicans

Instead of out of their firm liberal/progressive principles. We CAN lose either way, but we are certain to lose by choosing a DINO regardless of the outcome of the election.

[merrily]

155. We moved from "along the lines of the 2008 Pepsi logo" to the 2016 Fed Ex logo? Cool.

[PeteSelman]

136. Ha!

[pnwmom]

149. Even Middle Eastern countries set up number lines with increasing numbers going to the right. n/t

[merrily]

156. do you mean graphs?

[pnwmom]

157. No I mean number lines and time lines. Negative numbers going to the left, positive numbers to the right.

For example, these timelines:

https://www.officetimeline.com/blog/timeline-templates-for-teachers/

[merrily]

158. If I knew what you meant by Middle Eastern number lines, I would not have needed to ask.

Time lines, I agree, but they are usually marked to indicate what they represent. Someone who sees them is not expected to guess.


1900 1950 2000

Someone who sees them is not expected to guess what is meant solely by an arrow going right.

[pnwmom]

159. Even in the middle east mathematicians order numbers as we do on a number line.

Zero in the middle, increasing numbers going right.

http://math.tutorvista.com/number-system/number-line.html

I can't believe people are so hard up for things to criticize Hillary about that they're reduced to complaining about an arrow pointing to the right. Pointing to the left would signify going BACKWARDS, which is hardly the direction any progressive wants to go.

[merrily]

161. Ok, then, even though that is not Middle Eastern, the same comment I made in Reply 158 applies.

There is no doubt what they are trying to show us because they have clearly labeled, not merely told us, "Whatever it is we are talking about, it's political, it's red in color and the direction of it is to your right. You figure it out from there."


BTW not for nutthin, but the Middle East does not order numbers the same way we do. We order Arabic numerals the same way they do.

[pnwmom]

162. They use the same number line in the Middle east as here, but who cares?

Progress, i.e., moving forward, in the English speaking world is always indicated on a timeline by movement from left to right.

Please show me one example of a historical timeline that instead goes from right to left.

[merrily]

163. You didn't get my two prior posts to you. Where in that H or that arrow does it claim to be a

timeline?

[pnwmom]

165. It doesn't have to "claim" it. An arrow moving to the right implies forward momentum. It's a

convention used in both number lines and time lines.

You hate Hillary. I get it. But you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Can't you criticize her for something substantive?

[Pooka Fey]

152. oops meant to reply to OP

[pnwmom]

148. Apparently you've never seen a timeline. Timelines always go from left to right.

The rightward movement denotes progress.

[AtheistCrusader]

58. It's a matter of perspective.

It looks ok with the theme on her site.

Isolated by itself it looks... strange to me. Almost FedEx like.

[hrmjustin]

62. Yes it does look a bit like FedEx.

[AgingAmerican]

92. To the right isn't forward

It's backward

[daredtowork]

143. It's pointing backward. nt

[merrily]

154. No, forward would be pointing toward us, not to the right.

[demwing]

59. Manny, you just don't get it

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the "H" IS Hillary, so the arrow points to here left , which is our right.

Get it? What looks "Left" to Hillary looks "Right" to us!

[AgingAmerican]

94. lol

Oh freaking brother

[olddots]

4. notice what direction the arrow is facing

just saying ...........

[Agschmid]

20. Do you have a third post logo you'd like to share?

[Dragonfli]

82. I like this one

[cui bono]

89. Did you? n/t

[Agschmid]

18. Forward?

[DrDan]

171. you mean pointing forward?

[hrmjustin]

5. Your concern is noted.

[hrmjustin]

11. She didn't tell me.

[still_one]

87. I don't know what it is supposed to symbolize. What do you think?

[XemaSab]

8. Ugh, SO CORPORATE!

[Action_Patrol]

17. No idea what you mean

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[Cartoonist]

70. The E and X form an arrow

Excuse me if you knew that.

[Action_Patrol]

71. Yeah, I was being a smart ass

It was posted that it looked corporate so I added my (not so) witty comment.

[Warpy]

80. Yeah, well, they'll all have corporate logos eventually

It's one of the top things on the to do list before they announce, have a computer shit out a logo.

I don't like it, either, but it is truth in advertising.

[Action_Patrol]

12. It's aesthetically correct. No issues with it.

From a design/photography stand point you always direct into your project, not out of. It's pointing forward into frame. If it were reversed, it would be ridiculed for pointing backwards.

[valerief]

16. It shouldn't have the arrow at all. nt

[Action_Patrol]

19. I don't mind it.

[2naSalit]

66. Agreed...

Graphic design 101. I think it could be a more appealing looking logo but they are kind of pain to come up with when there are so many that can be thought to look like someone else's patented design. Been there done that

[Action_Patrol]

68. Just glad to see it isn't another variation of logo + flag

My art/design minor is paying off in gangbusters here at DU late night.

[2naSalit]

72. LOL!!

Mine comes in handy on occasion too. I, too, am pretty burned out on the flag"ish" logo types myself. But I'm also glad it's not some frilly pink damned thing either. It is a bit stark though.

Oh well. I'm more concerned about what the country is facing in real time to be worried about the appearance of a logo.

[Action_Patrol]

74. Frilly and pink wouldn't scream 'Hillary Clinton' to me...or anyone.

Agreed completely. Big hugs. I'd share some of my nachos with you if you were here.

[2naSalit]

77. Thanks but I am

stuffed... I made dinner to share with a friend this evening, Szekely Gulyas (minus the accents in the spelling), a Hungarian dish... quite filling. If one isn't careful, it's easy to eat too much. Funny you should mention nachos, had that last night.

Welcome to DU.

[Action_Patrol]

79. Ha. Thanks.

I have to warn you, nachos don't reheat well so I'm going to have to finish these. Just remember I offered.

[2naSalit]

81. I'd rather

they didn't go to waste, enjoy!

[billhicks76]

128. Right Wing

It's hirrible aesthetically too. The arrow should be going up to uplift us. Instead it's a sideways move to the right and super ugly. Fail.

[KMOD]

13. lmao

I laugh that you signed up today, of all days, and your screen name is singintheblues.

[NYC_SKP]

14. It's meant to denote "forward" motion, we read from left to right. Left arrow = backwards.

I strongly dislike it, but for other reasons.

The fact that it points to the right is, at least, consistent with many of her votes and economic positions.

[NYC_SKP]

26. Agree. nt

[Agschmid]

40. Where are you learning from?

[tammywammy]

50. So many sudden graphic design and logo experts.

[Agschmid]

51. Yup...

Apparently they are all taking classes as well!

[napi21]

56. Yea, no sh*t. That's exactly what I was thinkking as I read through al;l these

"expert" posts. My guessed is that very few, if any, know anything about advertising and what works. I doubt there would be ANY logo created that would please these folks.

[Marr]

118. I disagree.

I'm not a big Obama fan, but I think his campaign's identity work was brilliant. Couldn't have been more cohesive and struck just the right chords.

[bravenak]

69. For real.

[OKNancy]

167. Is that in Chicago, near the Library, girl?

[MissDeeds]

53. I agree

It does yell ""Third Way" , but of course HRC is Third Way.

[pnwmom]

139. Timelines go from left to right, so this obviously represents progress.

Only on DU are there significant numbers of people who think Hillary is too far on the right.

[joshcryer]

32. "Many" of her votes?

Can you give me, say, 10?

[Cheese Sandwich]

15. It's got too many sharp angles.

The key to a good logo is lots of swooshy things.

Obama understood this.

[MoonchildCA]

117. And so did Nike...

Well, at least one swoosh.

[marle35]

169. I like that it's not all swooshy

I may be alone in this. I'm so used to seeing swooshy logos these days that I like this for something different.

[undeterred]

21. To me it says

"There's a bathroom on the right".

It looks like its pointing the way for those with an urgent bodily function.

[brooklynite]

23. I think some anti-Hillary people are looking for something to complain about...

[Agschmid]

42. I made it "blue" so clearly they have nothing to complain about now.

[AtheistCrusader]

61. Wrong color scheme. on her fundraising ads the arrow is dark blue and the H is white.

[Hekate]

24. Pick up a pen and start writing. You go from Left to Right. Oh the agony, the agony.nt

[AgingAmerican]

96. The arrow isn't writing anything

But the direction it points is unmistakably to the right.

[TheNutcracker]

25. Okay it point forward, which IS to the right. For a campaign such as this I wouldn't reccommend!

[AgingAmerican]

98. Forward is to the left

If you are a Democrat.

[BlueJazz]

27. Don't care for it. Too harsh and non-artistic

[Smarmie Doofus]

28. I think they should get a raise.

Whatever else emerges from her campaign, there won't be much in the way of honesty.


I'll savor the moment, thanks.

[Boxerfan]

30. Hospital thataway??

I don't like the design-but will it change the way I vote?-Not a bit.

[LeftInTX]

90. That's what I thought - LOL

[DeSwiss]

34. I think the message is clear for a change.....

- Right Turns Only.



K&R

[cui bono]

86. And red stamps out blue.

So bad.

[Art_from_Ark]

132. Not-so-subliminal advertising?

With a red, right-pointing superseding the blue H. It's a gawd-awful logo.

[elehhhhna]

137. hurricane evacuation route and

And the rear-pointing red arrow sucks real baaaaad.

[zeemike]

37. Just so you know, your post was alerted on.

On Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:05 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

I may not be alone... but whoever designed the Clinton logo should be fired...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026496176

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Clear troll.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:12 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Well, I find the logo unfortunate, too. The first thing I thought is 'move to the right'. So maybe the poster has a point. I like Hillary and she's the best option so far, but that logo needs to go. The post can stay.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's an opinion. I don't see any reason to hide.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: He/she may or may not be a troll. But there's nothing wrong with the post.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not wild about the red arrow either but this OP is not worth a hide.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I kind of agree with the comment-it is ugly
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I can't believe this got alerted on...grow up.

[Agschmid]

43. People should spend some time on MIRT... then they'd get this.

[zeemike]

52. Well I only punish people when they do something wrong.

Never because I think they might do something wrong...it is silly I know, but I do believe in innocent until proven guilty.

[AgingAmerican]

99. They'd get what?

?? That low post count = troll? We all had a low post count at one point.

[Warren DeMontague]

109. 0-7

man, it takes a special kind of alert, to earn one of those babies.

[Logical]

38. Boring straight lines. Blocky. Terrible! nt

[Electric Monk]

41. That's not a joke? My first thought was that must be a bad joke. As logos go, that really sucks. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

44. I doubt it will affect any votes.

But I don't like it. It's graceless, uninspired and looks like a street sign. Reminds me of the signs indicating where the closest hospital is.

[knitter4democracy]

49. That is awful. Not something I would want to put on my car.

So much is wrong with that one. Surely someone could come up with something better.

[SidDithers]

54. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[spanone]

55. pffffft

[SoapBox]

57. Hilarious!

I noticed the direction right away...showed it to my partner...his response, "oh great, farther to the right?!?!"

[BrotherIvan]

60. "Subliminal" messages aside, it's bad graphics

It is part of the growing trend from movies to corporate that shows they just don't want to pay a talented graphics person. I'm very disappointed. Especially since Obama's campaign excelled in graphics, down to a bible for fonts and colors, as any good marketing campaign would make. It just devalues all the truly talented people who could have made an amazing logo.

[beltanefauve]

75. Well said

All your points were spot-on

[bvf]

63. This whole argument is ridiculous.

Please stop. Please.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

64. Reads like a street sign was pretty close to the mark or the point.

It means, Heading in the right direction.Or lets keep heading in the right direction.

Clearly nobody that knows anything other than republican right wing jerko's wants everything that has been done undone.

The logos design by it's design is meant to compliment or boost her campaign slogans. So at current you are looking in part ,the whole of it comes together when the campaign is on the move, rolling right along you might say.In part in context ,as it all breaks down and what it all means. It is after all a long road ahead.

Politicians are all about doing all the talking, Hillery says she's going to be doing a lot of listening,that is an indication that there will be
a lot of on the road additional issues she will address as a result of listening to the people along the way. What it could mean is the campaign will be built up as it goes on the road. That leaves plenty of room for on road revisions,kind of a tailor made campaign,a new way you might say.

For now, a logo at least has has you looking and wondering, even criticizing, it therefore does what it is supposed to do !

[intheflow]

65. "Hospital, next right."

Horribly generic. Doesn't capture the woman or her capabilities. Looks like it came out of Graphic Design 101 class.

And really. A red arrow pointing right? What were they thinking?

[Agschmid]

73. I can tell you this its gonna look real good as an app

On my iPhone!

And I bet that's why they did it this way, it is 2015 after all.

[hedda_foil]

76. It looks insanely macho to me. Think the male symbol.

[Warren DeMontague]

105. Yes, yes! Everyone is missing the TRUE symbolic significance here, especially when one considers

that Hillary


is running to be president after Obama:



put them together, and, OH NO!



The secret embedded message, here? The Democratic Party has been TAKEN OVER BY MRAS!!!!!!!!!!

MRAS! DAMN YOU, FIENDISH MRAS!

[whereisjustice]

78. Hillary is a corporation, she needs a logo. She pushes to the right, hence a logo pointing right.

I'd say this is about as perfect as it gets for her.

[cui bono]

84. Wikileaks says she stole it from them. =)

WikiLeaks @wikileaks · 9h 9 hours ago

Hillary Clinton has stolen our innovative WikiLeaks twitter logo design. Compare: @WikiLeaks vs @HillaryClinton

https://twitter.com/wikileaks

[still_one]

85. I would like to know what the symbolism means. You are correct it is left to interpretation which

could really give out the wrong message

[HereSince1628]

173. What team Hillary wants it to mean isn't the only consideration

Elections are competitive affairs, there WILL BE opponents who will intentionally distort whatever intent the designer for team Hillary intended.

When you create an image that will represent you, it is necessary to anticipate how others will demean it.

[tomm2thumbs]

88. it moves horizontal instead of higher... more status quo than onward and upward

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Maybe something more dynamic -- moving and aspiring to higher ideals, rising upward and forward into the future

(with a little bending the arc of history)

[LeftInTX]

93. Wow - What an improvement!!!

[tomm2thumbs]

121. ...

A quick note to say thanks

[BrotherIvan]

95. So much better

Is that your work?

[tomm2thumbs]

97. yes (kicking dirt shyly)

I don't know why they went so blocky, unmoving, unemotional, unpersonal, unexciting, undynamic

Unless they are appealing to that market LOL

[BrotherIvan]

113. Good work

I wish someone in her campaign would see it. As I argue down below, I think that logo comes from not wanting to pay a talented designer to create one. It is absolutely all the adjectives you state.

[tomm2thumbs]

115. awww

I'm sure they have their reasons. Maybe they are doing a roll out and will change dynamics when announcing a VP -- I'm sure they have a master plan in place. But thanks.

[Warren DeMontague]

103. Sorry, all I see is the North Tower exploding on 9-11.

[Beacool]

106. I like your version.

[tomm2thumbs]

123. your note

thanks

[Beacool]

125. You're welcome.

[EileenFB]

120. I really like this

great job

[tomm2thumbs]

124. you are

kind to say that - thanks

[PBass]

122. Your logo is quite nice!

I wonder if the swoosh could be a stylized eagle? Something optimistic (soaring bird)? But which is clearly not a dove (why feed ammunition to the opposition) but also not militaristic looking either?

Either way, very good nice logo.

[tomm2thumbs]

126. that's a thought

I wonder what was done that we don't know about and why - could be they had many options. thanks

[NiceTryGuy]

127. This looks like WTC...

This logo looks like the World Trade Centers standing side by side, with a star marking where the plane entered the building, complete with a slash across them.

Not such great symbolism.

[freshwest]

142. Would you submit it to the campaign - wonder if Skinner will? I like it better. The one they have,

though, reminds me of the Cuban flag:



And the Puerto Rican flag:



Which are symbolic of the Caribbean and our future as we join with our brothers and sisters to the south of the north american nations. There's been a decided trend in that direction.

And if she picks, as many of us hope, Julian Castro as VP, it'll have that hispanic touch, either of them. More of my hispanic friends liked HRC over Obama.

But I LOVE the flowing nature of yours.

I just don't know if the more blocky version is cheaper to make images?

I haven't dealt with this. I doubt it's set in stone. I don't see the rightward political symbolism some see. Her actual record is 'left - liberal' on the political leaning charts.

Women and minorities find her well to the left of the common political spectrum. The only ones I see that focus on her alleged 'right' leaning are rehashing memes that don't work for a lot of people anymore, they are getting old.

JMHO. I hope your version is adopted.

[tomm2thumbs]

146. cool info

I'm sure they had good ideas and picked it for good reasons - and no doubt it'll be adjusted as a VP pick is made... everything is in flux I'm sure. And thanks!

[JimDandy]

144. Soooo much better.

Dang. Where were you when they were hiring?

[tomm2thumbs]

145. (g)

I'm thinking they wanted something square that would fit bold spaces, logos on facebook, etc - but thanks

[grahamhgreen]

168. Infinitely better!

[demmiblue]

174. I like this much better.

Hillary's logo seems so angular and harsh, no sense of movement.

[madamesilverspurs]

100. Not as bad

as the Democratic logo




which seems to say, "Please use us for target practice!"

[Beacool]

102. Although not exactly the same, that logo always reminds me of a NYC subway map.

[BainsBane]

101. This obsession with "right"

and labels is not something people care about. I don't care that much for the logo, but not because of the direction the arrow is pointed, and I'm certainly not going to waste anytime worrying about a logo. I get that for some people here all they care about is labels of left and right. The rest of the country, however, cares about issues, real stuff that effects their lives. What a few internet warriors fear is some cryptic drift to the right is a non-issue.

[NiceTryGuy]

129. You don't understand branding...

Hillary is trying to run away from her own brand - to re-brand herself as a progressive. All this logo does is reinforce the brand that she is running away from. It's just bad. Amateurish.

Yes, real issues matter, but like it or not, in politics, branding is a real issue.

[BainsBane]

135. She is a progressive

and always has been. The only place she isn't is in the imagination of the keyboard intelligentsia.

I can guarantee you that logo was focus grouped. She's got political operatives on her staff that don't leave that stuff to chance.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

104. Like I said in another thread,....

I can picture a Neocon turning it sideways and claiming it's an Israeli Flag under a mushroom cloud.

[Rex]

107. It's stuck in my head man! Mind games!

Okay an H...yep. A red arrow to the right? I think she did it just to fuck with some people!

[Warren DeMontague]

108. It means that it's time for you "squares" to groove onto our cool new Triangular reality.

I, for one, welcome our Triangle overlords.

[Dragonfli]

111. I don't think many people here drive, because forward would appear as an upward arrow

I see lot of people crashing into walls if they think that that arrow on a highway or detour meant go forward.

[yuiyoshida]

112. sorry...

I don't care for it.. it doesn't inspire me. It reminds me of... HOSPITAL ZONE..THIS WAY.

[Marr]

114. I do think it speaks to a certain tone-deafness.

It's like she's completely unaware of Democrats being concerned that she's too far right, or that the party has moved too far to the right. I'm a graphic designer myself, and this is the sort of thing that would be nixed in the first meeting by a team that had some familiarity with the audience.

It may be reading a lot into a minor thing, but the fact that this was approved suggests to me that she lives in something of a political bubble.

Also, just creatively-- it actually looks amateurish in it's execution. I hate to sound catty because I'm sure she must've paid some studio to do it, but really-- it looks like something you'd get from an intern in the first round, along with 20 other explorations.

[RufusTFirefly]

119. Tone deaf?! Hillary?!!

(Cackling loudly)

[pnwmom]

138. It signifies progress, because timelines always go from left to right.

People here are WAY overthinking this.

[pnwmom]

116. Timelines always go in that direction -- so it signifies progress. What is wrong with that? n/t

[R B Garr]

134. Exactly, and it looks the arrow could signify a bridge that connects

two separate things and moves forward.

I think you summed it up perfectly.

[area51]

130. Wow, someone got paid for that logo? lol. n/t

[LittleBlue]

131. Looks like an HMO corporate logo from the 90s. Just like 2008

Her campaign begins with a misstep

[Kalidurga]

133. It isn't pretty

I don't know if I hate it or not. It certainly won't be the reason I support someone else in the primaries though.

[CANDO]

140. Its not pleasing to the eyes.

Seems harsh with too many hard edges. I don't like it at all.

[AgingAmerican]

141. Maybe it is upside down

Yep, it must be.

[Sherman A1]

147. Yup!

I must agree.

[PBass]

150. It's not bad.

The arrow is the biggest element, signifying action.

I think it would be reasonable to expect different colors, over time ("rainbow H" etc). I wouldn't get too hung up on the colors. But the red arrow is exciting, which is a good choice for kickoff day.

Uh, you jerks don't actually believe Hillary is inept at campaigning, do you? Because she's campaigned before a LOT. When it comes to making campaign misteps, I'm predicting that she's the candidate who will make the least of them, in either party.

[merrily]

151. At least it's honest. "H" is her initial and "H" says nothing about anything beyond that.

The red arrow pointing to the right is probably honest, too.

[Pooka Fey]

153. Red tops Blue and movement goes towards the Right - can't say she's hiding anything

[RiverLover]

166. +1 She's literally showing her stripes

Follow me right....

[BlueStater]

160. What's the arrow supposed to respresent?

The future? That's very funny.

I'm almost 30 years old and a person who's almost constantly been in the news since I was in preschool does not, in any possible way, represent the future to me.

[Richardo]

164. because one person did this and didn't go through any committee approvals or focus testing or

....get a go-ahead from the candidate herself.

[DrDan]

170. that would be forward . . . . not hard to figure out

and it is red-white-blue (considering the background)

I suppose someone will now claim the arrow is an affront to Native-Americans.

Such is life at DU.

[PeaceNikki]

172. meh. her logo could be puppies curing childhood cancer and people who dislike her would hate it.

[Vinca]

175. The logo is the least of my concerns.

[tridim]

176. Hoping this is a joke, but fearing it is not.

It looks like a "Hospital" sign from Yugoslavia.