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malaise

(268,949 posts)
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:00 AM May 2012

Bye Bye Sarkozy - Live Coverage of Hollande's speech here

Last edited Sun May 6, 2012, 03:21 PM - Edit history (1)

all the polls say you're a goner

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/06/frnech-election-francois-hollande-polls
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All polls for months have shown the Socialist party candidate, François Hollande, beating the rightwing Nicolas Sarkozy, the most unpopular French president ever to run for re-election. The left is hoping for its first Socialist president since François Mitterrand's re-election in 1988, which would be a rare event in a Europe that has swung to the right in recent years and weakened the left.

If Sarkozy is defeated after one term in office, he would become the 11th European leader to be swept from power since the economic crisis. Hollande has promised to renegotiate Europe's fiscal pact on austerity and shift the focus to growth measures.

Sarkozy has remained defiant, claiming that the polls were mistaken, predicting a higher-than-expected turnout that would play in his favour. In the final days of campaigning, he suggested the poll could be so tight that there may need to be a recount, comparing it to George W Bush's win in 2000 after a Florida recount.

A Sarkozy victory would be a major political turnaround. Despite a narrowing in Hollande's lead in the final days of a vitriolic and brutal campaign, Sarkozy's aides have for days privately admitted that it would take a miracle to turn the odds in his favour.
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Good riddance!! No court is going to steal this one for you!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17958367

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Bye Bye Sarkozy - Live Coverage of Hollande's speech here (Original Post) malaise May 2012 OP
Once one of the Euro zone countries quaker bill May 2012 #1
I think the French see the writing on the wall... Cooley Hurd May 2012 #2
The French had a real revolution malaise May 2012 #3
IKR, if any country should be able to throw TBF May 2012 #5
+1 davidwparker May 2012 #10
Did Sarkozy actually make a direct reference/comparison to Bush's 2000 election? Pachamama May 2012 #4
One American's advice to France sofa king May 2012 #7
+1 davidwparker May 2012 #12
Unfuggingbelievable isn't it? malaise May 2012 #11
Let's hope you're right. Mass May 2012 #6
We're on your side malaise May 2012 #13
We were all right malaise May 2012 #20
Yep. I am listening to our new president's speech Mass May 2012 #21
Thanks for that info malaise May 2012 #22
I'm waiting until the votes are counted. Gore1FL May 2012 #8
Am in Cassis right now. GoneOffShore May 2012 #9
Tell him to start packing malaise May 2012 #14
He was repeating that "50% of the people pay no tax" Lie. GoneOffShore May 2012 #15
Wow! It's like the Fox News memes are now taking hold in the right-wing French media! bullwinkle428 May 2012 #16
That would truly illustrate jumping from the frying pan into the fire - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #18
IT is over malaise May 2012 #19
The funny thing is edhopper May 2012 #17

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
1. Once one of the Euro zone countries
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:23 AM
May 2012

backs away from "austerity" and growth starts happening, the rest will quickly join in.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
2. I think the French see the writing on the wall...
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:37 AM
May 2012

...that right-wing Euros are the cause of the bigger economic issues (i.e. Austerity measures).

TBF

(32,050 posts)
5. IKR, if any country should be able to throw
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:08 AM
May 2012

out right-wing nightmares this one has the history of doing it. Solidarity with the french workers.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
4. Did Sarkozy actually make a direct reference/comparison to Bush's 2000 election?
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:03 AM
May 2012

Whoa....thats a scary reference and not a good omen....

I just think if you wanted to avoid any question of legitimacy in election results, the last thing you would want to reference is the 2000 US elections.....or have any reference or comparison to George W. Bush on any level....

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
7. One American's advice to France
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:58 AM
May 2012

When one of your guys compares an upcoming election to the election of the worst goddamned leader the free world has seen in 80 years, you had better be getting ready right now to go in and kick that miscreant out.

Because he's telling you this election is close enough to steal.

You know how a couple of times each century France and the United States come together to bail each other out, and then we spend the rest of the time making fun of each other? We're too fucked up to bail you out now, thanks to George Bush.

So please, for the sake of your awesome cooking and your fine appreciation of art, both of which make America and France better places, get rid of your own George Bush before it is too late!

Mass

(27,315 posts)
6. Let's hope you're right.
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:19 AM
May 2012

A lot of people are voting. Let's hope they are from the left and not the right.

Anyway, I voted and my 2 kids voted. Go Hollande!

Mass

(27,315 posts)
21. Yep. I am listening to our new president's speech
Sun May 6, 2012, 03:34 PM
May 2012

For me, it has a particular feeling as he is speaking from the twon I was born in, a very small town in the center of France. We know this guy, and, while some may not consider him as charismatic, he is solid and serious, and will be a good president,

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
9. Am in Cassis right now.
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:35 AM
May 2012

It's hard to tell how it's going because this is a resort town.

The Calanque boats are going out on tours, lots of people strolling the port, eating Sunday lunch at the restaurants, and generally enjoying the day.

Heavy rain was predicted for the Marseille area, but it hasn't materialized.

The polls at the Mairie were quiet when we went by. One bored gendarme watching people shopping at the crafts fair.

We did meet a crazed Sarkozy supporter in a wine bar last night who swore that if Hollande won he would move to the US.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
15. He was repeating that "50% of the people pay no tax" Lie.
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:13 AM
May 2012

I asked him how he knew that and he used the "Everybody knows" line. Asked him to prove it and he came up dry.

We then had another glass of rosé and I moved away from him. Young (35ish) and said he was an "entrepreneur".

edhopper

(33,573 posts)
17. The funny thing is
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:36 AM
May 2012

the conservative and right leaders in Europe would fit in the middle of the Democratic Party here. The only people in Europe that would fit with the GOP are the nationalist Le Pen types.

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