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Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:52 PM Apr 2015

Lies from the right are not being debunked and you can go pages and pages in Google and it is

only a bunch of right winged sites that are stating the same thing. I was a victim of this several months ago and when I posted the fake article I got the shit beat out of me here.

I found this on someone's FB page.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/03/25/new-york-house-passes-bill-allowing-shooting-babies-through-the-heart-with-poison-to-kill-them/

"New York Assembly Passes Bill Allowing Shooting Babies Through the Heart With Poison to Kill Them"

snip

"Today in a vote of 94-49 the New York State Assembly approved passage of AB 6221, the extreme stand-alone 10th point from the previously packaged 10-point Women’s Equality Act, which would expand third-trimester abortions and allow non-doctors to perform abortions. "

So I went through several pages on Google and all of the sites said the same thing. I had to put the bill number in to get the right information. I wish groups like Snoops and Politifact would cover these things


http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=&bn=A06221&term=2015&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Text=Y&Votes=Y#A06221

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Lies from the right are not being debunked and you can go pages and pages in Google and it is (Original Post) Maraya1969 Apr 2015 OP
Hello? Is anybody there? Does anyone care? Maraya1969 Apr 2015 #1
crazy Right Wing sites aren't news edhopper Apr 2015 #2
It's a form of the Gish Gallop Fumesucker Apr 2015 #3
I had some guy on Youtube do that to me. A list of the most stupid comments about Maraya1969 Apr 2015 #4
"the booming stock market now.....it has always been this way" progree Apr 2015 #5
The RWNJ are just planting seeds. They know a few of these stories will get proven wrong, but they okaawhatever Apr 2015 #6
It doesn't matter because the average American watches 35 hours of TV Zorra Apr 2015 #7

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
1. Hello? Is anybody there? Does anyone care?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:33 PM
Apr 2015

I think this is kind of a big problem that may have been intentionally set up. There are ways to get your site up on Google rankings. But the non-debunking of things has me uncomfortable

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. It's a form of the Gish Gallop
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:41 PM
Apr 2015

They throw out a ton of bullshit they can generate in moments, each point of which takes careful research and linking to refute, there simply is no way to keep up with them.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or "gotcha" arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one's opponent.


Remember that even back in the day before telephones Mark Twain said a lie could travel halfway around the world before the truth could get its boots on...



Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
4. I had some guy on Youtube do that to me. A list of the most stupid comments about
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:01 PM
Apr 2015

Obama I had ever heard. Of course he wrote them like facts and like each one is enough to send the president to jail.

So I took one and told him I wasn't going to go through his list because he would just make up more. And then I showed how the stock market has not been on an upward trajectory with no dips in the last 30 years. (Because that is their response to the booming stock market now.....it has always been this way)

And that was it. He didn't write me back.

progree

(10,901 posts)
5. "the booming stock market now.....it has always been this way"
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:25 PM
Apr 2015

LOL.

Using the last closing before inauguration (G.W. Bush inaugurated noon Jan 20, 2001, Obama at noon, Jan 20, 2009)
. . # When Clinton left office and G.W. Bush took office, the S&P 500 index was at 1343.
. . # When G.W. Bush left office and Obama took office, the S&P 500 index was at 850.
Thus under G.W. Bush, the S&P 500 index dropped 37%, from 1343 to 850.

So no, it hasn't always been booming.

It's at 2105 as of 4/16/15 close, up a bit from when Obama took office when it was at 850.

And then I showed how the stock market has not been on an upward trajectory with no dips in the last 30 years. (Because that is their response to the booming stock market now.....it has always been this way)

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
6. The RWNJ are just planting seeds. They know a few of these stories will get proven wrong, but they
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 12:13 AM
Apr 2015

don't care. Enough people will have read it by then that will always have it in the back of their mind.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
7. It doesn't matter because the average American watches 35 hours of TV
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 12:16 AM
Apr 2015

per week.

5 hours of television every day!

Doh!

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