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[sufrommich]

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[tridim]

1. Because alternative medicines are all bad, and all big-pharma drugs are awesome!!!1

I don't watch Dr. Oz, but I do know that he is probably a huge enemy of big pharma since he suggests people improve their diet and exercise to improve overall general health INSTEAD of taking pills that do nothing but mask symptoms.

That is a GOOD THING for people who enjoy being as healthy as possible, and a nightmare for big pharma.

[jeff47]

2. Half of the products and plans he pushes have been demonstrated to be false.

http://factually.gizmodo.com/study-dr-oz-is-full-of-shit-1673235629

Researchers randomly selected 40 episodes of his show and examined 160 recommendations. Their measure for whether something was truthful hinged on an ability to find at least one case study that supported what he said. Researchers were only able to do that 54 percent of the time.

And keep in mind, the "case studies" they were looking for could be in pay-to-publish journals.

In other words, Dr. Oz lies to desperate people in order to profit from them.

Now, what exactly was it you were complaining about "big pharma"? That they might be exploiting desperate people?

[sufrommich]

4. Somehow I doubt that these doctors who

signed the letter of protest are all Snidley Whiplash villains of Big Pharma. Dr. Oz is a hack.

[mopinko]

3. good for them. i hope they listen.

frauds like him need to be called out by actual doctors.
he broke the hippocratic oath long ago. repeatedly.

[geek tragedy]

5. Oz is a fraud, but these 'top physicians' are rightwing loons and convicted felons

In addition to the Hoover institution crowd, we have the American Council on Science and Health

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Council_on_Science_and_Health#Controversies

In 2005, a critical piece in the magazine Mother Jones[28] reported that the ACSH's current medical director,[29] Gilbert Ross, had served time in a federal prison camp and had his medical license revoked for Medicare fraud. ACSH responded with an article on its website stating that Ross was remorseful for the role he played in the scam, that it had occurred during a period of personal and financial hardship, and that Ross had resigned from the fraudulent clinic after only 7 weeks employment.[30] His medical license was reinstated in 2001.[31]

Something sinister is afoot.

[sufrommich]

6. Hmmmm,interesting. I wonder what they're trying to do?

I guess I should have researched the group before posting.

[geek tragedy]

8. It seems there is no honor among thieves.

Shills for the big corporate crowd going after a shill for the woo-based alternamed industry.

more on 'Doctor' Gill's organization:

The Scaife Foundation and John M. Olin Foundation provided ACSH's first financial support in the 1970s.[4] In her address on the 25th Anniversary of ACSH, Dr. Whelan noted that their critics such as Phil Donahue and Barbara Walters accused them of being a "surrogate" of the petrochemical industry and a "shill" for the food industry.[4] To appease their critics, ACSH only accepted funding from private foundations for two years. However, as the media continued to indicate that ACSH was industry-supported, the Board decided on a fundraising policy through which "about 40% of ACSH [funding] comes from private foundations, about 40% from corporations, and the rest of the sale of ACSH publications."[4]

In the early 1990s, ACSH decided to stop reporting its funding.[32] Their 1991 report shows that many corporations contributed funds.[32] As of 2005, they had received $90,000 from ExxonMobil.[33] Whelan told John Tierney (journalist) of the New York Times in 2007 that "ACSH has a diverse funding base - we receive donations from private foundations and individuals and unrestricted (usually very small) grants from corporations. The fastest-growing segment of our funding base is individual consumers who are sick and tired of the almost daily baseless scares - and they write us checks to help support our work."[34] In 2010, Whelan told The New Yorker that about a third of the organization's two million dollar annual budget comes from industry.[35]

But in 2013, Mother Jones magazine received leaked internal financial documents from ACSH, which revealed that 58% of the organization's donations in the period from July 1, 2012, to December 20, 2012 came from corporations and large private foundations, many of which themselves had close ties to industries with financial stakes in the specific issues on which ACSH issues industry-favorable opinions.[2] In addition, the documents revealed that the organization had on numerous occasions directly solicited donations from industry sources on the basis of projected reports on the specific issues in which those companies and industry organizations had such a stake.[2] Similarly, in a 1992 internal memo by Whelan disclosed by Consumer Reports, Whelan directed her staff to “ask McNeil Specialty for $10,000 toward sweetener paper” and disclosed that her staff would seek “more CCC [Calorie Control Council] money ... to help us get new sweetener booklet out.”[36] McNeil Specialty Products (now McNeil Nutritionals) owns the U.S. marketing rights to Splenda, the branded name of the artificial sweetener sucralose; the Calorie Control Council is an industry trade association for producers of artificial sweeteners, fat substitutes, and low-calorie foods. The same memo instructs that staffers give “special attention" to "Mr. McDermott at Searle about meat money."[36] Thomas McDermott was shortly to become director of biotechnology communications for the agricultural biotechnology firm Monsanto; G.D. Searle was a Monsanto subsidiary, subsequently acquired by Pfizer.

[sufrommich]

10. I'm going to close this, goddammit I

pride myself on not getting taken in by right wing ruses.I stand corrected,thanks.

[KittyWampus]

9. Yeah, a whole ten doctors. And reading their note my irony meter went WAY into the red zone...

Complaining about personally profitting from what gets sold to patients. LOL!

I had a friend who is a sales rep to doctors offices. The perqs doctors get for prescribing drugs is out of control.

They are just jealous.

[sufrommich]

11. Yeah, I got taken in. nt