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redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:24 PM Apr 2015

help me smart DUers! need snappy talking points to counter claims of "it's all obama's fault".

apparently the hitchhikers I pick up on the way home from work are quite fond of political discussion, but not terribly astute.
I am noticing a trend of black=stupid or something like that b/c not sure how anyone comes to the conclusion that obama is dumb. he talks with sentences that make sense, something exceedingly rare in a politician. also he sometimes talks to say things, also pretty rare in a politician.

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. don't argue with people liike that, it's like trying to teach pigs to sing
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:25 PM
Apr 2015

you're doomed to fail at whatever you're trying to achieve, and you'll just annoy the pig

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. What I have noticed among relatively unsophisticated people...
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:29 PM
Apr 2015

It is quite common for highly intelligent and educated people to carefully choose their words, and to pause while mentally constructing phrases, in order to speak in full grammatic sentences. That sort of speech is common among professorial types.

What I have found to be the case among people who have not had a lot of exposure to that sort of thing is that since they wouldn't know a complete sentence if it bit them in the ass (viz. the popularity of Sarah Palin as a "great speaker&quot is that they perceive this type of speech as "stammering".

What they normally expect in extemporaneous elocution is an uninterrupted flow of sound which, while not making much sense overall, contains phrases that appeal to them.

Accordingly, among such people, the fact that Palin can just rattle off nonstop nonsense is a speaking style which, to them, suggests confidence and knowledge. By contrast, they find a more knowledgeable and careful speaker to be halting, uncertain, and less intelligent.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Bet the same people did not say it was Bush's fault, huh.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:32 PM
Apr 2015

It used to be Nancy Pelosi's fault but now it isn't Boehner's fault. It has been Harry Reid's fault also but not McConnell's fault. Now it is a joke line of its Obama's fault. I like the We are going to take our country back, who on the hell are they going to take it back?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
7. You Can't Win
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:35 PM
Apr 2015

My neighbors are like that. They were wishing Obama would die, so we could be rescued from the huge tragedy of having a black guy as president. They also believe in stuff like the "sovereign citizen" theories, and God-only-knows what else. The other day, I was pumping gas at the Costco, and some guy next to me was blabbing in a loud voice about how Obama was sending us all straight to hell, so I said, "Really? I just filled my tank for twenty bucks, and it cost me forty when Bush was prez." He just turned red and sputtered. He'll probably hunt me down and shoot me. I usually don't say anything, but sometimes I just can't resist.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
12. good for you for speaking up
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:52 PM
Apr 2015

my hitchhiker is not a crazy arsehole tho, just wrong.
per ejemplo we both agree that wages are way too low and employers are just out to exploit as much as they can.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
8. For hitchhikers, STFU or Walk! would work pretty well, I think.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:40 PM
Apr 2015

For Facebook, I find that Unfriend works a treat.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. At least he hasn't attacked the wrong country yet.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:45 PM
Apr 2015

That makes him light years smarter than Conservatives.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
10. Wait hitch hikers are the keepers of the intelligence rolls?
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:48 PM
Apr 2015

Who knew hitch hiking makes you a genius!

I should have done it more when I was younger.

Vinca

(50,255 posts)
14. Oh heck, just ask them why they're racists.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 05:52 PM
Apr 2015

People who blame this POTUS for everything are usually only bothered by one thing.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
17. i would say, 'yeah, i went fishing yesterday and my line snapped and I said-
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:30 PM
Apr 2015

thanks Obama, its his fault you know"

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