President Obama...listen to Greece and France...stand up to the austerity thugs!

[Ken Burch]

The voice of the people is growing louder...as the leader of "The Party Of The People", you have an obligation to listen to it.

Stand up to the bankers...stand up to Merkel...stand up to the IMF and the EU!

To be progressive means to absolute oppose austerity and all the antidemocratic demands for its imposition.

Do what the community organizer within you would do, Mr. President.

You need to be on the winning side of history now.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Not in Obama's nature

He needs to play the "responsible" adult, not to champion the 99%.

[Ken Burch]

2. At this point, playing "the 'responsible' adult"

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is the most irresponsible choice of all.

This is the kind of historical moment that Democrats have historically bungled. The last one that more or less got it right was FDR.

Obama needs to admit that there IS no "center" anymore. There's only humanity on one side and barbarism on the other.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. Agreed, but he is what he is

And he likes to make tough choices, not correct choices.

[Ken Burch]

4. Then he needs to be pushed to be

something better than himself...which is always part of ANY process of change, isn't it?

[MannyGoldstein]

6. He's trying to cut Social Security for no good reason,

which is sick. I'm thinking that "better than Romney" is about as good as he'll get.

[Ken Burch]

7. You may well be right.

I hope he doesn't stretch the definition of "better" too far.

In the meantime, the movement against the worst devils of the admin's nature must be built.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

22. Maybe if he cuts enough Social Security, it will all get better.

Why else would he cut it?

[Joe Bacon]

19. For those who believe austerity works, try this experiment.

Don't water a plant for a month. See what happens!!!!

[BanTheGOP]

20. I absolutely agree

That is why the GOP needs to be banned. It is not a political entity as much as it is a barbaric, destructive, criminal force that needs to be destroyed.

[fascisthunter]

5. Yeah, but he is amore of a neo-conservative

I don't see him fighting against austerity measures, in fact I see him saying he will fight them, only to fools us so he the GOP and conservative democrats can.

[aquart]

8. Gonna be a lotta discussion tomorrow in both camps.

[Ken Burch]

10. True...and we can assume that HRC will be pushing to have the Greek troops leave the barracks.

That's what her Batistiano Miami in-laws and the rest of the WalMart board of directors would want, after all.

Perhaps Honduras was a dry run.

[Diclotican]

16. Ken Burch

Ken Burch

I doubt the greek people will accept that greek troops leave the barracks, and stand against the people.. Not anymore.. The greek population is as angry as they could be, without going attaching the system itself.. And I doubt even the greek army is able to quell what might be the result, if the government doesn't listen to the population now...

Even if HRC will try to push for some "surprising" in greek, I doubt the greek generals would do it, they got a bloody nose in 1975, and have after that been the tool of the state, not the other way... The time of military coups in Europe is over, and wil hopefully never came back anytime soon..

Diclotican

[Ken Burch]

18. I desperately hope that you're right.

It's an unpredictable situation.

The Greek people WILL fight, as they are fighting now, for democracy(a fight which also means, by definition, a fight to defend the social wage and the dignity of the workers).

Good luck to them in this struggle.

[Diclotican]

21. Ken Burch

Ken Burch

One thing is sure - many are in a desperate situation, without pay, with the prospect of missing everything they might have worked for all their life.. If you are in that situation, you tend to not "take it anymore" and fight back... The greeks is a people who fight all the time, but now I guess they are united in a form that I doubt any government could take for granted.. As the election last sunday pointed out, the big parties got "wiped out" when the smaller parties, line the nationalist, or the communist got most of the election voters.. And even if it doesn't make to much of noise, it symbolize the fact that the greeks are not happy with who things have been going lately... But even a new government have to take some responsibility for what mess the greek are up in today..

I'm not sure what is the best for the greeks.. Maybe they need to get off the Euro, back to Drakme, and work with the EU in another setting than they hoped for, when they was leaving the Drakme for Euro.. In any cases, Euro will be used in Greeke as valid tender I guess for a long time.. But the unfairness about how things have been working out for the masses in Greek, is absolutely something that could end up in a lot of problems for a long, long time even for a new government in Greece...



But, I wish american workers have had the same guts to fight the government as the greek had.. I know US have a whole different history when it came to workers right and all that.. But if a couple of million americans was telling their state legislators, and the federal government they better do the right thing, or it will be consequences - then they had to listen.. Today americans look as they are to diverse to organize them self into a power to be recognized with.. In the horrible conditions of the 1930s they managed to organize them self into a power to reckon with.. Why can not americans do it again, organize, and make demands... ?

Diclotican

[CarmanK]

9. CHANGE comes from Bottom, up and Obama is the leader forward!

God has a sense of humor. Imagine what could be worse for the GOP/TPARTY to have a smart, well educated BLACK MAN lead america out of what Krugman calls the "lesser depression" and away from the tyranny of NORQUISTICON no tax and would be kings of TPARTY NATION. Romney lives in the world of Franks "Richistan" which is why he cannot connect with the american ppl. It is time we sent the TPARTY NATIONALS packing, restore integrity to our elective process and adopt the BUFFET RULE.

[Ken Burch]

11. That's right. we're the bottom, and we have to lead the leaders.

That's what this thread is all about...moving the "leaders" forward.

[colsohlibgal]

12. If Only

Obama is pretty moderate which makes the right's claim that he's a marxist/socialist unbelievably outside reality, anyone who believes it is brain dead.

I think we ought to drastically cut the defense budget, bring the highest marginal tax rate to 45% of where Ike had it, create a VAT like other nations have. I'd legalize pot and tax the Hell out of it.

I'd then go all FDR and create massive public work projects to fix and modernize our crumbling infrastructure. I'd invest big in green energy initiatives, we must get off fossil fuels ASAP.

That is a world without wingnut push back with teeth but even if we had clear majorities in both the Senate and House I don't see Obama doing any of that, he's way far right from Bernie Sanders or any real liberal.

[Jamaal510]

13. Obama has been fighting austerity:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/30/1087710/-Notice-something-unusual-about-Obama-s-accomplishments-

[lib2DaBone]

14. Mr. Obama can not be trusted to do as he says...

He is a Wolf in Sheep's cloth......just saying....

That being said.. Romney is awful.. we have no choice.

My only "Hope" is that our slide towards total Fascim and Information Control under Obama will be slower than under Romney...

What a choice, huh?

[Ken Burch]

15. This is not a "don't vote for Obama" thread.

It's an "expect SOMETHING from Obama" thread.

[girl gone mad]

17. Yeah, good luck with that.

A tiger doesn't change its stripes and a neoliberal doesn't grow a heart.

[FarLeftFist]

23. Huh? Didn't Greece elect far-right neo-Nazi's to office yesterday?

[LeftishBrit]

24. As with many countries with proportional representation systems, it elected quite a mixture

The move was predominantly to the left; but unfortunately the nasty and misnamed Golden Dawn party did better than anyone would like.