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usregimechange

(18,373 posts)
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:21 PM May 2012

的f they overdose and kill themselves, it just removes them from the gene pool." -Republican MO Rep

JEFFERSON CITY -- A Missouri senator who is a family physician succeeded Thursday in scuttling legislation that would have authorized a government database to track people's prescription drug purchases...

The result is that Missouri will remain one of just two states lacking the authorization for a prescription drug database. It's possible that lawmakers in New Hampshire, the other state without such a law, could pass such a measure this year.

The government databases are intended to stop “doctor shopping,” in which people get prescriptions from multiple physicians to feed their addictions or sell the medicines on the black market.

As he embarked on his filibuster, Schaaf turned to state Sen. Brad Lager, R-Savannah, for help in talking about the bill. Lager obliged for a while but asked Schaaf how the prescription database infringed on liberties any more than a proposal that would allow police to pull over motorists for not wearing seatbelts. Schaaf, a supporter of stricter seat belt laws, responded that people injured because they fail to wear seatbelts infringe on others' liberties. Sometimes, their medical bills are covered by the government's Medicaid health care program or the poor.

Schaaf appeared to dispute the notion that people who abuse prescription drugs similarly infringe on others' freedoms.

“If they overdose and kill themselves, it just removes them from the gene pool,” Schaaf said.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/04/3592795/state-senator-from-st-joe-blocks.html#storylink=cpy


And that was what Obama was talking about when he mentioned Social Darwinism the other day.



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的f they overdose and kill themselves, it just removes them from the gene pool." -Republican MO Rep (Original Post) usregimechange May 2012 OP
Guys, forward this to the media, this guy needs national attention. usregimechange May 2012 #1
Okay. DevonRex May 2012 #7
I e-mail Colbert, Daily show, and Rachel Madow. usregimechange May 2012 #10
You're going big time. DevonRex May 2012 #13
Okay, I'll add The Talk and Ellen. nt DevonRex May 2012 #15
Perfect! usregimechange May 2012 #20
I figured some daytime coverage couldn't hurt. DevonRex May 2012 #21
He is protecting the drug prescription mills his Dr buddies operate.... Historic NY May 2012 #2
Still can't believe he told a report that, or even said it outloud. usregimechange May 2012 #3
I'll bet he got that line from the movie 'Traffic' RZM May 2012 #4
This "government database" is a farce. Archae May 2012 #5
Just what we need..... DeSwiss May 2012 #9
I agree, but this was about what he said not the position he took, one is reasonable and the other.. usregimechange May 2012 #11
I disagree. DeSwiss May 2012 #14
Sounds like we agree but I would guess both of us haven't read the bill yet either usregimechange May 2012 #19
Nice graphic. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #32
Exactly. Archae May 2012 #17
per his bio...' Senator Schaaf is also a devout Christian'...bwahahahahahaaaa spanone May 2012 #6
Even if this got widespread coverage, I am not sure it would damage him. razorman May 2012 #8
I think it would, that district is purple. usregimechange May 2012 #12
Simple solution: Make the doctor who wrote the scrip an accessory to murder gratuitous May 2012 #16
I think it will make people in intractable pain have to jump through even more hoops.. Fumesucker May 2012 #23
THANK YOU. LeftyMom May 2012 #25
It is illegal snpsmom May 2012 #31
Although this statement is completely wrong and inhumane RegieRocker May 2012 #18
Someone tell me what is conserve -ative about throwing people and other patrice May 2012 #22
There is already a database that track prescription drugs, but it's a private company Marrah_G May 2012 #24
And then Missouri became the most populous state in the nation n/t Tsiyu May 2012 #26
I don't want a government database tracking my prescriptions n/t tammywammy May 2012 #27
Reader comment summed it up well: brentspeak May 2012 #28
+1 usregimechange May 2012 #34
The point of this was the horrible statement and drawing attention to it, not DevonRex May 2012 #29
He said something stupid, but the proposed law is Big Government bullshit bluestateguy May 2012 #30
So what can be done to remove Teabaggers from the gene pool? Bake May 2012 #33

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
13. You're going big time.
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:57 PM
May 2012

I'm doing the major newspapers and the liberal weeklies that I can find like Westword.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
21. I figured some daytime coverage couldn't hurt.
Mon May 7, 2012, 12:26 AM
May 2012

And that other show is the pits. So, we have late night, some daytime and some newspapers. We can regroup tomorrow evening and see what we can do from there.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
2. He is protecting the drug prescription mills his Dr buddies operate....
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:30 PM
May 2012

people like them cause much misery. I don't see how they can get around the Controlled Substances Act.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
4. I'll bet he got that line from the movie 'Traffic'
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:33 PM
May 2012

For those who haven't seen it, Michael Douglas plays the US Drug Czar. In one scene he meets with his counterpart in the Mexican government and asks him about his policy regarding treatment. The Mexican official basically says the same same thing that this state senator did.

Later in the film we find out this same Mexican official is actually in bed with one of the cartels and is using his position to go after its rivals.

Sadly that type of official corruption is still going on today in Mexico.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
5. This "government database" is a farce.
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:35 PM
May 2012

It doesn't do a damn thing to stop prescription drug abuse, and a good friend of mine was on one of them, seems someone stole his identity and got multiple oxy prescriptions.

Took weeks to clear up the mess, and my friend was in agony because of that damn database.
He could only get samples from the doctor to treat his multiple fractures. (Car accident)

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
9. Just what we need.....
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:43 PM
May 2012

...another ''government database.''

- Yeah, that'll solve all our problems......

usregimechange

(18,373 posts)
11. I agree, but this was about what he said not the position he took, one is reasonable and the other..
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:50 PM
May 2012

should result in his immediate resignation.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
14. I disagree.
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:58 PM
May 2012

I think government database expansion into our lives is a much, much greater threat.

Jerks like this prick are a dime a dozen. They come and they go.

However, once obtained, governments never give up power willingly.

We argue and fuss and hack away at the branches and cut them down as we can.

Until another one pops up in its place.

Meanwhile, the root of the evil remains untouched and ignored.

Until the next jackass says some more jackassery -- and then here we go again.

- Meanwhile the databases grow.........

Archae

(46,327 posts)
17. Exactly.
Sun May 6, 2012, 11:32 PM
May 2012

This database does zilch to stop any of the doctor shopping, and does nothing to actually help the addict.

At most the addict ends up in jail.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
8. Even if this got widespread coverage, I am not sure it would damage him.
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:40 PM
May 2012

It would not surprise me if most Americans (or others) more or less agreed with him. As Tommy Lee Jones said in 'Men In Black', "A person is smart. People are stupid."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Simple solution: Make the doctor who wrote the scrip an accessory to murder
Sun May 6, 2012, 11:00 PM
May 2012

Someone overdoses due to doctor shopping, the last doctor in line goes on trial as an accessory to murder. If the doctor didn't do a thorough check on the patient, off to jail for five to seven, and loss of license.

Think that might tighten up a few practices?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
23. I think it will make people in intractable pain have to jump through even more hoops..
Mon May 7, 2012, 12:40 AM
May 2012

Untreated pain is a major problem in this country, as big a problem as drug overdoses..

It's very difficult to do something about one of those two problems without negatively effecting the other..

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
25. THANK YOU.
Mon May 7, 2012, 01:09 AM
May 2012

A friend couldn't get adequate pain control for her TERMINAL CANCER because she might overdose or become addicted. What sort of heartless person does that to somebody with maybe a few months to live?

Junkies find a way. Restrictions just destroy the lives of honest people.

snpsmom

(677 posts)
31. It is illegal
Mon May 7, 2012, 07:09 AM
May 2012

to withhold pain medication from terminal patients. It is also not standard practice, even if the dosage needed to control the pain might be lethal. The family should be pursuing that doctor to make sure no other patients have to endure what your friend endured.

I'm very sorry for your loss.

 

RegieRocker

(4,226 posts)
18. Although this statement is completely wrong and inhumane
Sun May 6, 2012, 11:44 PM
May 2012

We do not need more government intrusion in our lives. There should only be a database for Doctors and Hospitals. Not the government. They should not be allowed this information. Only by court order.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
22. Someone tell me what is conserve -ative about throwing people and other
Mon May 7, 2012, 12:40 AM
May 2012

behavioral possibilities away?

Assuming there is nothing in any of those whom Schaaf would not help, nothing in helping them, that would be of any salutary effect upon anyone or anything else, throwing value away is not conservative. Not only may you/we need it, not only do you/we lose what could contain the seeds of new and nourishing beauties, our own potentialities for fuller being are limited by disposing of others.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
24. There is already a database that track prescription drugs, but it's a private company
Mon May 7, 2012, 12:46 AM
May 2012

There is also one that tracks medical history.

Insurance companies use them.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
28. Reader comment summed it up well:
Mon May 7, 2012, 01:28 AM
May 2012

Thanks Dr. Schaaf "If they overdose and kill themselves, it just removes them from the gene pool" is my favorite part of the hippocratic oath.


DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
29. The point of this was the horrible statement and drawing attention to it, not
Mon May 7, 2012, 01:50 AM
May 2012

the value of these databases. I, for one, use pain medication regularly. I have chronic severe pain from several conditions. I can't even begin to describe the worst pain I experience on occasion. I don't particularly like the databases.

But what this guy said smacks of eugenics, which isn't that far fetched, considering it came from a right winger. People like this must not be re-elected. That is why usregimechange posted this thread and that is why I support him in his effort. There are probably a lot of medical conditions people like this Senator would rather not treat and thus remove from from the gene pool if he had his way.



bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
30. He said something stupid, but the proposed law is Big Government bullshit
Mon May 7, 2012, 02:26 AM
May 2012

I do not feel I should have to give my name and address whenever I buy cold medicine. Then the next time a meth lab is busted the local police have a nice list of everybody who bought cold medicine in the neighborhood. Lovely.

Several years ago one store asked for my name and phone number when I was buying razor blades. I slammed them down on the counter and never came back to that store again.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
33. So what can be done to remove Teabaggers from the gene pool?
Mon May 7, 2012, 01:23 PM
May 2012

Because that would be a good thing ...

Bake

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