General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums的f they overdose and kill themselves, it just removes them from the gene pool." -Republican MO Rep
JEFFERSON CITY -- A Missouri senator who is a family physician succeeded Thursday in scuttling legislation that would have authorized a government database to track people's prescription drug purchases...
The result is that Missouri will remain one of just two states lacking the authorization for a prescription drug database. It's possible that lawmakers in New Hampshire, the other state without such a law, could pass such a measure this year.
The government databases are intended to stop doctor shopping, in which people get prescriptions from multiple physicians to feed their addictions or sell the medicines on the black market.
As he embarked on his filibuster, Schaaf turned to state Sen. Brad Lager, R-Savannah, for help in talking about the bill. Lager obliged for a while but asked Schaaf how the prescription database infringed on liberties any more than a proposal that would allow police to pull over motorists for not wearing seatbelts. Schaaf, a supporter of stricter seat belt laws, responded that people injured because they fail to wear seatbelts infringe on others' liberties. Sometimes, their medical bills are covered by the government's Medicaid health care program or the poor.
Schaaf appeared to dispute the notion that people who abuse prescription drugs similarly infringe on others' freedoms.
If they overdose and kill themselves, it just removes them from the gene pool, Schaaf said.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/04/3592795/state-senator-from-st-joe-blocks.html#storylink=cpy
And that was what Obama was talking about when he mentioned Social Darwinism the other day.
http://www.senate.mo.gov/11info/Members/d34/bio.htm
Contact:
http://www.senate.mo.gov/webmail/mail_form.aspx
rob@schaaf.com
Capitol Office:
201 W Capitol Ave., Rm. 331
Jefferson City, Missouri 65101
(573) 751-2183
Toll-free: 855-663-3883
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)I'll do Chicago, Denver and Memphis.
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)I'm doing the major newspapers and the liberal weeklies that I can find like Westword.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)usregimechange
(18,373 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)And that other show is the pits. So, we have late night, some daytime and some newspapers. We can regroup tomorrow evening and see what we can do from there.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)people like them cause much misery. I don't see how they can get around the Controlled Substances Act.
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)For those who haven't seen it, Michael Douglas plays the US Drug Czar. In one scene he meets with his counterpart in the Mexican government and asks him about his policy regarding treatment. The Mexican official basically says the same same thing that this state senator did.
Later in the film we find out this same Mexican official is actually in bed with one of the cartels and is using his position to go after its rivals.
Sadly that type of official corruption is still going on today in Mexico.
Archae
(46,327 posts)It doesn't do a damn thing to stop prescription drug abuse, and a good friend of mine was on one of them, seems someone stole his identity and got multiple oxy prescriptions.
Took weeks to clear up the mess, and my friend was in agony because of that damn database.
He could only get samples from the doctor to treat his multiple fractures. (Car accident)
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...another ''government database.''
- Yeah, that'll solve all our problems......
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)should result in his immediate resignation.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)I think government database expansion into our lives is a much, much greater threat.
Jerks like this prick are a dime a dozen. They come and they go.
However, once obtained, governments never give up power willingly.
We argue and fuss and hack away at the branches and cut them down as we can.
Until another one pops up in its place.
Meanwhile, the root of the evil remains untouched and ignored.
Until the next jackass says some more jackassery -- and then here we go again.
- Meanwhile the databases grow.........
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Chris Hedges says the same thing, btw.
This database does zilch to stop any of the doctor shopping, and does nothing to actually help the addict.
At most the addict ends up in jail.
spanone
(135,830 posts)razorman
(1,644 posts)It would not surprise me if most Americans (or others) more or less agreed with him. As Tommy Lee Jones said in 'Men In Black', "A person is smart. People are stupid."
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Someone overdoses due to doctor shopping, the last doctor in line goes on trial as an accessory to murder. If the doctor didn't do a thorough check on the patient, off to jail for five to seven, and loss of license.
Think that might tighten up a few practices?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Untreated pain is a major problem in this country, as big a problem as drug overdoses..
It's very difficult to do something about one of those two problems without negatively effecting the other..
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)A friend couldn't get adequate pain control for her TERMINAL CANCER because she might overdose or become addicted. What sort of heartless person does that to somebody with maybe a few months to live?
Junkies find a way. Restrictions just destroy the lives of honest people.
snpsmom
(677 posts)to withhold pain medication from terminal patients. It is also not standard practice, even if the dosage needed to control the pain might be lethal. The family should be pursuing that doctor to make sure no other patients have to endure what your friend endured.
I'm very sorry for your loss.
RegieRocker
(4,226 posts)We do not need more government intrusion in our lives. There should only be a database for Doctors and Hospitals. Not the government. They should not be allowed this information. Only by court order.
patrice
(47,992 posts)behavioral possibilities away?
Assuming there is nothing in any of those whom Schaaf would not help, nothing in helping them, that would be of any salutary effect upon anyone or anything else, throwing value away is not conservative. Not only may you/we need it, not only do you/we lose what could contain the seeds of new and nourishing beauties, our own potentialities for fuller being are limited by disposing of others.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)There is also one that tracks medical history.
Insurance companies use them.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Thanks Dr. Schaaf "If they overdose and kill themselves, it just removes them from the gene pool" is my favorite part of the hippocratic oath.
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)the value of these databases. I, for one, use pain medication regularly. I have chronic severe pain from several conditions. I can't even begin to describe the worst pain I experience on occasion. I don't particularly like the databases.
But what this guy said smacks of eugenics, which isn't that far fetched, considering it came from a right winger. People like this must not be re-elected. That is why usregimechange posted this thread and that is why I support him in his effort. There are probably a lot of medical conditions people like this Senator would rather not treat and thus remove from from the gene pool if he had his way.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I do not feel I should have to give my name and address whenever I buy cold medicine. Then the next time a meth lab is busted the local police have a nice list of everybody who bought cold medicine in the neighborhood. Lovely.
Several years ago one store asked for my name and phone number when I was buying razor blades. I slammed them down on the counter and never came back to that store again.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Because that would be a good thing ...
Bake