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PCIntern

(25,853 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:54 AM Apr 2015

Philly's all a'twitter about the signing of Tim Tebow

by the Eagles...

The idiot sportscasters locally don't get why so many people despise Tebow...they theorize all kinds of nonsense, but they tend to overlook the fact that he's not considered NFL material by everyone else in the League; that his sanctimony and self-proclaimed virginity is a distraction from the game as well as the commercialization - which is what it's REALLY all about; that he has been championed by the RWers who adore the fact that he's a devoutly-practicing Christian White guy who's won the Heisman, won the national football title twice, and states that he's never had intercourse with a female. In other words: he's the second-coming of Jesus himself.

We are famous here for hiring cast-offs and dirtbags from other teams, Witness Mike Vick the dog-killer/torturer, while we cast off first-class players for no obvious or stated reason, witness Desean Jackson.

This is a publicity stunt which the Eagles "do" just when baseball season starts annually. They really didn't need to do it this year because the Phillies are about as bad as it can get in the Major Leagues due to idiocy right at the top of their organization, or what passes for an organization.

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Philly's all a'twitter about the signing of Tim Tebow (Original Post) PCIntern Apr 2015 OP
had to chuckle when I heard. RedstDem Apr 2015 #1
This may all be true alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #2
Whereas that may well be true... PCIntern Apr 2015 #3
We know you believe that alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #8
Sorry....but everything on the menu at Paesano's beats the snot out of those 2 greasepits. msanthrope Apr 2015 #10
Nowhere near as gratifying... PCIntern Apr 2015 #20
Cheap. Downwinder Apr 2015 #4
Still too much AFAIC. nt PCIntern Apr 2015 #5
Have to put a warm butt in the seat. Downwinder Apr 2015 #6
and only signed for a year....It's okay, if he sees the field my Cowboys got something for him snooper2 Apr 2015 #14
Every Sports Writer RobinA Apr 2015 #7
RW adoration... PCIntern Apr 2015 #21
Honestly I think Chip Kelly is out of his league in the NFL. trumad Apr 2015 #9
4-12 the year before he arrived philosslayer Apr 2015 #12
With Andy Reid players trumad Apr 2015 #15
well Andy Reid's players went 4-12 the year before Chip Kelly showed up philosslayer Apr 2015 #32
I hope he does well... kentuck Apr 2015 #11
It has nothing to do with Hate--at least to a real football fan. trumad Apr 2015 #16
I think he has a winning record as a QB in the NFL? kentuck Apr 2015 #18
He had initial success with Denver... trumad Apr 2015 #19
Well ... Lurker Deluxe Apr 2015 #22
Mentor? trumad Apr 2015 #23
He would probably make a great tight end.. kentuck Apr 2015 #30
Missed By A Mile ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #26
Try not to confuse this situation by stating PCIntern Apr 2015 #29
Damn but this gets tiring... "Tebow was great in college. He rarely threw the ball..." cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #35
uhh...let's face it. trumad Apr 2015 #38
So did he throw the ball in college or not? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #39
I like Tebow. Don't 840high Apr 2015 #27
Nice to see the kid put in time training and getting another chance. ileus Apr 2015 #13
Not so good pipi_k Apr 2015 #17
Tim Tebow has won a playoff game. Octafish Apr 2015 #24
Good. Now lets see what excuses his legions of fans come up with when he GOLGO 13 Apr 2015 #25
I agree 100%. nt PCIntern Apr 2015 #28
Better lucky than good. kentuck Apr 2015 #31
Someone has to hold the football during.... rppper Apr 2015 #33
You should do a little research on what a "Hail Mary" football pass is. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #37
Odd that people are more upset about Tim Tebow signing than Greg Hardy being signed by the Cowboys KinMd Apr 2015 #34
Sorry Philly. zappaman Apr 2015 #36
I would rather my team have Tim Tebow than the rapist Jameis Winston as QB FLPanhandle Apr 2015 #40
 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
1. had to chuckle when I heard.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:11 AM
Apr 2015

He could be good on the practice squad. And someone to feed to indomican suh. (Sp?)

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. This may all be true
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:13 AM
Apr 2015

And likely is.

Still, the current utter catastrophe of the Philadelphia sports teams (in pretty much every major sport) is a joy to everyone not of Philadelphia.

PCIntern

(25,853 posts)
3. Whereas that may well be true...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:23 AM
Apr 2015

we have Jim's and Dalessandro's cheesesteaks, which are the best food in the whole wide world. Without exception.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. Sorry....but everything on the menu at Paesano's beats the snot out of those 2 greasepits.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:58 AM
Apr 2015

Try the brisket.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
6. Have to put a warm butt in the seat.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:55 AM
Apr 2015

If you can't have pay to play, get the least expensive.

Might surprise you. Look at Zisk with the Sox.

RobinA

(9,958 posts)
7. Every Sports Writer
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:38 AM
Apr 2015

I've read (granted, not every one operating in this city) has made at least passing reference to the fact that he isn't NFL material and has expressed general bafflement at this development. I've seen absolutely no adoration. Guess we read differnet sources.

That said, yeah, Philadelphia sports is not at a high point at the moment. To me, the Flyers are the real bafflement, but I don't follow sports except in a general way, so I could be missing something.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
9. Honestly I think Chip Kelly is out of his league in the NFL.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:54 AM
Apr 2015

His personnel moves have been baffling and if he thinks he can when in the NFL with a college offense---well---he ain't going to last long.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
12. 4-12 the year before he arrived
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 09:58 AM
Apr 2015

10-6 the two years after he arrived. A lot of NFL coaches would love to have that record.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
15. With Andy Reid players
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 10:11 AM
Apr 2015

Dave Wannstedt was 11-5 the first two years after Jimmy Johnson left.

He went on to wreck the franchise for years to come.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
32. well Andy Reid's players went 4-12 the year before Chip Kelly showed up
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:59 PM
Apr 2015

And 8-8 the year before that.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
16. It has nothing to do with Hate--at least to a real football fan.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 10:14 AM
Apr 2015

The unbelievable publicity this guy gets for being a 4th string QB is hilarious.

The only reason that Tebow still exists in the NFL is not talent---it's publicity---and his religion.

There have been plenty of college stars...especially QB's, that simply were not good enough for the NFL.

kentuck

(111,246 posts)
18. I think he has a winning record as a QB in the NFL?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 10:28 AM
Apr 2015

As for his religious displays, I have seen others do similar displays without the criticism. Seems like a decent person to me? He will bring in the fans, no doubt about that.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
19. He had initial success with Denver...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 10:54 AM
Apr 2015

Simply because he had an offensive coordinator who taylored Tebow's college style game. It worked initially---but once NFL coordinators figured him out he was toast.

Tebow was great in college. He rarely threw the ball and functioned well in a wildcat type offense.

That was college. The Pro's are light years ahead of college ball. Way faster, way bigger, etc.

Tebow is to slow in the Pro's. Wildcat offenses simply do not work.

So what to do---he can't run anymore---so he has to pass. And there is the rub.

He can't pass. His 46 percent accuracy rating is horrendous. Not even close to NFL standards.

Denver cut him and he went to New York--- he sucked...bad.

New York cut him and he went to New England.... He sucked even more.

Sure he's a decent person---but so are you from what I heard. Thing is--- I don't think you can play for the NFL.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,041 posts)
22. Well ...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:23 AM
Apr 2015

Not exactly.

Tebow came into Denver when they were done, and he ran off 6 wins in a row. Teams made adjustments and he struggled in the last three, beat the Steelers in the first round and then promptly got routed in New England in January. Surprise there, since everyone knows that NE never wins at home in January.

Elway moved to get rid of him instead of letting him mentor under a star (Manning) and to say he sucked with the Jets is just messed up, he was 6-8 75% throwing ... they never let him play. The Pats brought him into camp and he did not make the final cut, neither did some 40 other players.

A winning QB with less than 400 pass attempts in the NFL and he is not even picked up as a backup?? He was thrown to the wolves and never allowed to mature as a player under a good coaching system and he did what he knew how to do .. win.

I see no problem with him getting a chance to play, if he can mature as a player and make it ... great, if not ... such is life.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
23. Mentor?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:06 PM
Apr 2015

You can't mentor bad mechanics, bad accuracy, bad pocket presence, and simply being slow.

Elway--Ryan, Belichick---- what---they are all wrong?

Chip Kelly threw Tebow a bone and I'm pretty certain it's a small one.

kentuck

(111,246 posts)
30. He would probably make a great tight end..
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:54 PM
Apr 2015

He can run pretty well with the ball. But he wants to play quarterback, I guess?

ProfessorGAC

(66,119 posts)
26. Missed By A Mile
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:59 PM
Apr 2015

His success in Denver was far luckier than even Trumad's analysis suggest.

He won 3 of those games against teams without the starting QB and either without the starting RB or #1 WR.

Against Pittsburgh, the two best defensive players on either team (both on the Steelers) missed the game.

And during his stretch, defenses had not adjusted to the oddities of that offense.

Since then they did. He's too slow to outrun a defense oriented to stop that attack, and won't challenge the blitz packages because he is too slow to release and can't hit the water from a canoe.

His record as a starter is a fluke. And had you seen the games, you would know that.

PCIntern

(25,853 posts)
29. Try not to confuse this situation by stating
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:54 PM
Apr 2015

the facts.

It gets in the way of his alleged reputation...

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
35. Damn but this gets tiring... "Tebow was great in college. He rarely threw the ball..."
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:20 PM
Apr 2015

In 2007 Tebow had these NCAA stats:

#1 in the NCAA in yards per attempt.

#11 in the NCAA in completion percentage (go do a search for the names of the ten who finished in front of him, and how many of THEM are in the NFL today?).

#23 in passing yards.

#8 (tie) in touchdowns.

Misleading stats I know because Florida plays such a cotton candy schedule, amiright? Oh yeah, let's not forget that he rarely threw the ball...

In what was Tebow's last college game, he completed 31-of-35 passes for 482 yards and three touchdowns and accounted for four total touchdowns and 533 yards of total offense, which set a record for a Bowl Championship Series game.

At the end of his college career, Tebow held 5 NCAA, 14 Southeastern Conference, and 28 University of Florida statistical records. He was the SEC's all-time leader in career passing efficiency (170.8), completion percentage (67.1%), passing touchdown to interception ratio (5.5 to 1), rushing yards by a quarterback (2947), rushing touchdowns (any position) (57), and total touchdowns responsible for (145).

Among many mentions in the NCAA Division-I record book, Tebow is ranked second in career passing efficiency, third in career yards per attempt (9.33), 8th in career rushing touchdowns, and also owns the record for most consecutive games in which he both threw at least one touchdown pass and scored at least one rushing touchdown (14).

Come on... face it. He's white, religious, and takes a knee after being involved in a scoring play. All three are fucked up things in the DU Rule Book.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
38. uhh...let's face it.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 09:50 PM
Apr 2015

46.6 accuracy in the pros.

Elway...Ryan...Bill B... yeah I guess they are all wrong.....

Oh but Cherokee. .he knows better than them. Err...ok.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
13. Nice to see the kid put in time training and getting another chance.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 10:00 AM
Apr 2015

Even if it's just a backup job.


Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Tim Tebow has won a playoff game.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:09 PM
Apr 2015

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Which is more than any Detroit Lions QB can say since Erik Kramer in 1992.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
25. Good. Now lets see what excuses his legions of fans come up with when he
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:54 PM
Apr 2015

bombs in Philly. I'm sure they'll find someone else to take the blame for his inability to play football on a professional level. This should be quite the spectacle.

rppper

(2,952 posts)
33. Someone has to hold the football during....
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:52 PM
Apr 2015

The field goals and kick-offs....

Not a fan of his but he did crush the steelers playoff aspirations with that Hail Mary playoff pass....that was definetly worth some brownie points....

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
40. I would rather my team have Tim Tebow than the rapist Jameis Winston as QB
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 09:55 PM
Apr 2015

We wouldn't win as much but I'd rather cheer for a team that has a virgin as QB than a rapist.

Yet, the rapist won't get half the criticism here that Tebow gets....odd.

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