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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hillary-clinton-crushes-republican-rivals-in-new-poll-2015-04-20
By Robert Schroeder
Apr 20, 2015
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) If the presidential election were held today, it wouldnt even be close.
Hillary Clinton is crushing her potential Republican rivals by double digits in a new CNN/ORC International poll. The Republicans best showing is by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who trails the former senator and secretary of state by 14 points. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who hasnt declared his candidacy yet, lags Clinton by 17 points. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie are each 19 points behind Clinton.
Rubio and Paul have declared their candidacies, but Christie hasnt said hell run.
Clinton is also the overwhelming favorite for the Democratic nomination, with nearly seven in 10 Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents supporting her.
Even including the polls margin of error, Clinton would still have a double-digit lead on Rubio and the others. The poll was taken April 16-19 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. It was released Monday.
"We do better when we work together. Women & men, all of us across every line that is used to divide us. - Hillary.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)MoonRiver
(36,954 posts)Game on for the rat fuckers.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Sadly, that is true.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Unimpressed, but it's quite early in the process.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)NT
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Why would I want to help the opposition?
By opposition, I mean the media who play games promoting their agenda, their narrative, and their choice of candidates.
I don't mind polling, done well, of opinions and publishing these results and the study methodology, as regards issues, but don't support "who would you vote for".
These favor people with name recognition and people with the money to project an image, which may be a false one.
We are seeing that right now, and this poll outcome is evidence of these phenomena.
pnwmom
(109,445 posts)But of course you reject it.
What's wrong with a telephone poll? Will you only be satisfied with a door-to-door? Or are you trying to imply that users of cell phones weren't included? If so, you're wrong.
"This sample includes 615 interviews among landline respondents and 403 interviews among cell phone respondents."
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And people who screen their calls, or who only take voice messages, etc.
And it assumes that people answer honestly.
Really, a valid methodology would require a higher N and a mixture of engagement strategies.
The poll is useful in one respect, it can be administered repeatedly and show trends but the trends will only apply to:
people who pick up the phone and participate in the poll, a likely minority of all phone users.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)And there are controls put in place to ensure respondents and non respondents preferences are the same.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I can't think of a mechanism that can be build into the methodology to adjust for this factor.
Busy people, hard working people, people who distrust polls or strange numbers calling them are not included in these polls.
I would not be included in this study because I have a life.
I would submit that people with less to do and who just don't care are over-represented.
People with less to do who just don't care people lurve Hillary Clinton!
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)If the desires of non -respondents and respondents diverged in significant ways then all polls would be similarly flawed but everything we know suggests they are very effective.
pnwmom
(109,445 posts)political agenda, and their results are usually within the stated margin of error.
I'm sure you would be touting them if the results looked bad for HRC.
procon
(15,805 posts)if you're joking. Maybe you have an a really impressive idea to share about some other means of conducting a survey that is quicker or better, or maybe just a different methodology that produces the outcome that you'd find more agreeable?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd "meh" a statistically valid poll if it didn't validate my biases too. Just wait til they publish polls that do in fact, validate our biases-- then we'll rationalize a distinction without difference and somehow justify holding them to different standards.
hrmjustin
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JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)NT
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DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)It is interesting that he decided to become a Democrat after his 22% approval ratings compelled him not to run for re-election for the Rhode Island governorship:
Hard as it is to imagine, Congressman David Cicilline and Gov. Lincoln Chafee have managed to lose even more public support.
Cicillines job approval rating has sunk to just 15% among all Rhode Island voters, down from 24% in December, according to a new Brown University poll released Thursday morning. Chafees approval rating isnt much higher at 22%, down from 27%.
To put those numbers in perspective, President Richard Nixons approval rating was 24% a week before he resigned over Watergate in 1974. Slightly more voters rated Chafees job performance as poor (45%) than said so about Cicillines (43%).
http://wpri.com/blog/2012/02/23/cicilline-chafee-approval-ratings-now-worse-than-nixon-in-1974/
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But the poster is gone.
But if Chaffee thinks that HRC's IW vote was the "biggest reason" she lost to Candidate Obama, then, I suspect he's been hanging out on DU to get his HRC attack points; rather than, talking to the Democratic base.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)African Americans were/are an essential part of her base. Once Barack Obama demonstrated he was a viable general election candidate by beating Hillary in the Iowa caucus was when her campaign went south , figuratively of course.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)my vote for Candidate Obama. And it will likely to have the same effect on whomever I vote for in 2016.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)I can tell you, HRC's IW vote had zero to do with my vote for Candidate Clinton. And it will likely to have the same effect on whomever I vote for in 2016.
But I still love you and President Obama.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)Will you please let us know who is smearing you?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)They are poof, gone.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)If I ever smeared you I apologize. I intend to use my scintillating personality to win you over to our side.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)My dog, your baby, at least our avatars are a cute match!
💛🐾🐶🌝🍬🏄💃🏊🏻🎉🍼🍴🍸
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
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Tarheel_Dem
(31,440 posts)to Dem seem to be the ones that certain "progressives" are pushing the hardest. Chafee, Webb, Warren? Really? WTF?
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Dr Hobbitstein
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TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Dems don't want you Mr. Chafee for even entertaining this!
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I assume you've scrapped with this one before, though. I saw your post about contacting MIRT. Had a feeling it was this one.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Ingrown nails, purple toe tips, and mud between the toes.
These are all indicators.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)..and She hasn't spoken to a staged media group with pre-approved questions.
Far ahead in the polls with barely an appearance & only simple small gatherings along a slow moving campaign trail.
No lights cameras nor profound statements splashed across the News to be picked apart.
And She holds double digit numbers above the rest.
Pretty impressive indeed.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)What's to get happy about?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)All the GOP has to pay off the New York time reporters, they
are happy to leave things out of a story, and leave the wrong impression,
and when they get called wrong, they just pretend they fixed it by
reporting errors days later, but not before the sell their news papers with
lies first.
underpants
(186,156 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)RUN AWAY!!!
SCantiGOP
(14,154 posts)IF.........he will promise to go on Jon Stewart before he leaves the show.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)Same m.o.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,440 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(100,025 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,440 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)As socks are usually found in pairs!
realFedUp
(25,053 posts)Sometimes I think this country has a majority of stupid people.....
Richardo
(38,391 posts)IdiotsforPalin
(186 posts)What? Cruz and Trump didn't even register?