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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill Obama's fight with Warren provoke her to run?
She can no longer believe the administration is supportive of her or cares about her concerns? She can't any longer believe the administration or any other "New Democrat" can be pushed to left.
It is clear Obama is a trickle down guy that believes the job creators stuff.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)that doesn't make sense to me.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)You have to be a real newbie not to know that.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)she's not planning to run so this is going to somehow get her to...ahhh i can't figure out the reasoning here and I've got one hell of an imagination.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)a pretext for a candidacy that isn't my problem.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I think she'd be a fantastic President but I don't see her considering it until the next round.
I think she's incredibly powerful in the Senate, we have a damned good shot at taking the Senate in 2016 and I'd love to see her take a leadership role in a majority.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)It's is tradition called seniority. Schumer will be Senate leader. It is decided already.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)but Senate Leader isn't the only leadership position. I'd like to see her heading banking and with her history I don't think that's out of the question.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)Even if the Senate were to break over a century of tradition we have no influence or leverage in the decision. We don't get to vote for Committee positions. Why should I get my hopes up over something far more improbable than a presidential run?
JI7
(89,247 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)If Warren is not feeling supported by Obama and thing by running she will get respect, I don't think it works that way. Warren probably listens to others taking the heat who are running and think it isn't worth the hassle.
If Warren wants to run then by all means do so.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)are not small and provides a justification for a run.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I think your entire premiss is faulty.
Obama inherited a trainwreck and somehow pulled us back from the brink of unrecoverable damage.
He not only brought us back into equilibrium, he exceeded that and put is in better shape than in generations.
All with the most obstructionist Congress I've ever known.
Now listen, the fight now isn't against Obama, he's doing fine on his way out.
The fight now is against Hillary Clinton who, with her husband Bill, contributed to the mess we're in and continues to be a threat to the security of our nation.
You're picking the wrong fight.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)And he can sing and dance and do comedy, and does a great job at presenting awards and medals, and presenting condolences.
And foreign leaders mostly like him and I'm proud of him when he goes to other countries.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)sorry. I have no clue what standards you use to make that claim. I am guessing wall street performance or some such. I also think the bankers will screw us again to, because I don't think the sytem is reformed that much, and he gave them an icentive by not prosecuting them and giving them and unconditional bailout.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Obama has created jobs all over the place, I've never seen so many infrastructure projects.
Most people, regular people, are feeling better off than before.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)I do believe that had he reinstituted glass steagal, prosecuted the banksters, raised minimum wage and gave an amnesty on floreclosures it would have happend much quicker. The economy will recover eventually no matter how badly run. I surely don't see much manufacturing returning to US.
Real estate value is the concern of the rich invester. Maintaining a house is the concern of the average person.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Unrealistic rise in home values has changed that dynamic, but a lot of programs are in place to make homeownership possible for ordinary wage earners.
AikenYankee
(135 posts)I know she "says" she's not running ..... right now. I'm thinking this and other things bring her in.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)Trying to out the New Democrats first.
Marr
(20,317 posts)she's spoken a lot about these issues for sometime. I'm not sure her recent actions could be taken as a sign of anything new, really.
Still, it's very early, and anyone with half a brain who intended to run against Hillary Wall-Street-Bucks Clinton would still be denying they're going to enter race at this point. I'd volunteer for her campaign in a second.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)She could win 100% of DU and it would barely register a blip on the radar. The real world will vote overwhelmingly for Hilary.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)Obama came out of nowhere, ran as a populist to the left of Hillary remember? Even spoke out against free trade. It was only after he was elected he revealed himself a Hillclone.