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betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 07:55 PM Apr 2015

Will Obama's fight with Warren provoke her to run?

She can no longer believe the administration is supportive of her or cares about her concerns? She can't any longer believe the administration or any other "New Democrat" can be pushed to left.

It is clear Obama is a trickle down guy that believes the job creators stuff.

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Will Obama's fight with Warren provoke her to run? (Original Post) betterdemsonly Apr 2015 OP
Uh huh... SidDithers Apr 2015 #1
Well, Obama isn't running, so WhiteTara Apr 2015 #2
Clinton will be and she is a free trader and a New Democrat like O betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #6
Yeah I'm sure that's it sharp_stick Apr 2015 #13
If you don't see a big difference with the leadership as providing betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #16
Sorry I didn't mean to demean her sharp_stick Apr 2015 #18
Leadership positions never go to first termers betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #19
Well of course she won't be Senate Leader sharp_stick Apr 2015 #20
The committee positions are based on seniority too betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #21
i can gaurantee that nobody will be voting for obama next election JI7 Apr 2015 #3
What if Obama feels like Warren is not supporting him? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #4
Only demonstrates the differences between New and Traditional dems betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #12
Go for it Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #15
Obama presided over the greatest economic recovery in your or your mother's lifetime. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #5
I admire him greatly too.... fadedrose Apr 2015 #8
I am not feeling better off than I was before betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #9
My home stopped depreciating, I save $900/month on health insurance. I'm better off than before. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #11
It took 7 years betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #14
Owning and maintaining a home is not a "rich investor" thing in America, historically. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #17
She sure sounds like a candidate. AikenYankee Apr 2015 #7
I am wondering if she is setting this up a pretext betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #10
I'd love it if she did run. But Marr Apr 2015 #22
No, because she knows she would lose. Lil Missy Apr 2015 #23
I think that is wishful thinking betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #24
 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
6. Clinton will be and she is a free trader and a New Democrat like O
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:06 PM
Apr 2015

You have to be a real newbie not to know that.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
13. Yeah I'm sure that's it
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

she's not planning to run so this is going to somehow get her to...ahhh i can't figure out the reasoning here and I've got one hell of an imagination.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
16. If you don't see a big difference with the leadership as providing
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:21 PM
Apr 2015

a pretext for a candidacy that isn't my problem.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
18. Sorry I didn't mean to demean her
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:26 PM
Apr 2015

I think she'd be a fantastic President but I don't see her considering it until the next round.

I think she's incredibly powerful in the Senate, we have a damned good shot at taking the Senate in 2016 and I'd love to see her take a leadership role in a majority.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
19. Leadership positions never go to first termers
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:28 PM
Apr 2015

It's is tradition called seniority. Schumer will be Senate leader. It is decided already.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
20. Well of course she won't be Senate Leader
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:31 PM
Apr 2015

but Senate Leader isn't the only leadership position. I'd like to see her heading banking and with her history I don't think that's out of the question.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
21. The committee positions are based on seniority too
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:34 PM
Apr 2015

Even if the Senate were to break over a century of tradition we have no influence or leverage in the decision. We don't get to vote for Committee positions. Why should I get my hopes up over something far more improbable than a presidential run?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. What if Obama feels like Warren is not supporting him?
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:06 PM
Apr 2015

If Warren is not feeling supported by Obama and thing by running she will get respect, I don't think it works that way. Warren probably listens to others taking the heat who are running and think it isn't worth the hassle.

If Warren wants to run then by all means do so.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
12. Only demonstrates the differences between New and Traditional dems
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:13 PM
Apr 2015

are not small and provides a justification for a run.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
5. Obama presided over the greatest economic recovery in your or your mother's lifetime.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:06 PM
Apr 2015

I think your entire premiss is faulty.

Obama inherited a trainwreck and somehow pulled us back from the brink of unrecoverable damage.

He not only brought us back into equilibrium, he exceeded that and put is in better shape than in generations.

All with the most obstructionist Congress I've ever known.

Now listen, the fight now isn't against Obama, he's doing fine on his way out.

The fight now is against Hillary Clinton who, with her husband Bill, contributed to the mess we're in and continues to be a threat to the security of our nation.

You're picking the wrong fight.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
8. I admire him greatly too....
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:10 PM
Apr 2015

And he can sing and dance and do comedy, and does a great job at presenting awards and medals, and presenting condolences.

And foreign leaders mostly like him and I'm proud of him when he goes to other countries.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
9. I am not feeling better off than I was before
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:10 PM
Apr 2015

sorry. I have no clue what standards you use to make that claim. I am guessing wall street performance or some such. I also think the bankers will screw us again to, because I don't think the sytem is reformed that much, and he gave them an icentive by not prosecuting them and giving them and unconditional bailout.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. My home stopped depreciating, I save $900/month on health insurance. I'm better off than before.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:13 PM
Apr 2015

Obama has created jobs all over the place, I've never seen so many infrastructure projects.

Most people, regular people, are feeling better off than before.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
14. It took 7 years
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:17 PM
Apr 2015

I do believe that had he reinstituted glass steagal, prosecuted the banksters, raised minimum wage and gave an amnesty on floreclosures it would have happend much quicker. The economy will recover eventually no matter how badly run. I surely don't see much manufacturing returning to US.

Real estate value is the concern of the rich invester. Maintaining a house is the concern of the average person.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
17. Owning and maintaining a home is not a "rich investor" thing in America, historically.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:23 PM
Apr 2015

Unrealistic rise in home values has changed that dynamic, but a lot of programs are in place to make homeownership possible for ordinary wage earners.

AikenYankee

(135 posts)
7. She sure sounds like a candidate.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:08 PM
Apr 2015

I know she "says" she's not running ..... right now. I'm thinking this and other things bring her in.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
22. I'd love it if she did run. But
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:34 PM
Apr 2015

she's spoken a lot about these issues for sometime. I'm not sure her recent actions could be taken as a sign of anything new, really.

Still, it's very early, and anyone with half a brain who intended to run against Hillary Wall-Street-Bucks Clinton would still be denying they're going to enter race at this point. I'd volunteer for her campaign in a second.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
23. No, because she knows she would lose.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:48 PM
Apr 2015

She could win 100% of DU and it would barely register a blip on the radar. The real world will vote overwhelmingly for Hilary.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
24. I think that is wishful thinking
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:53 PM
Apr 2015

Obama came out of nowhere, ran as a populist to the left of Hillary remember? Even spoke out against free trade. It was only after he was elected he revealed himself a Hillclone.

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