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chalmers

(288 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:34 PM Apr 2015

Orioles COO John Angelos offers eye-opening perspective on Baltimore protests

"My greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state." John Angelos

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/orioles-john-angelos-baltimore-protests-mlb

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Orioles COO John Angelos offers eye-opening perspective on Baltimore protests (Original Post) chalmers Apr 2015 OP
Wow. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #1
He gets it. Sanity Claws Apr 2015 #2
Wow... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #3
+1 daleanime Apr 2015 #61
Holy shit Cosmocat Apr 2015 #4
His father, Peter Angelos is a lifelong Democrat, who started out as a lawyer for labor unions. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #5
Ah...that explains MynameisBlarney Apr 2015 #9
His Dad also won that famous Tobacco Settlement case against Phillip Morris. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #15
Now that's purty dang alright! MynameisBlarney Apr 2015 #22
A man who doesn't forget where he came from and sees the big picture. That's a rare bird. bulloney Apr 2015 #102
Thank You for saying this...What you said is so true...no text Stuart G Apr 2015 #105
An amazing statement, delete_bush Apr 2015 #6
Wow is right eom LittleGirl Apr 2015 #7
I knew there was some reason I liked the Orioles.. pangaia Apr 2015 #8
As a rival Nats fan I give the man his props. Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #10
More than props from me, King. elleng Apr 2015 #56
NAILED it! gregcrawford Apr 2015 #11
Momentum, power and malice. Our corporate overlords begin to sound more and more like PatrickforO Apr 2015 #24
Surprising and well said blackspade Apr 2015 #12
Wow! MissDeeds Apr 2015 #13
Holy Truth-to-Power! Thanks for the post, chalmers! And a big welcome to DU! nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #14
Spot on! Welcome to DU chalmers! FourScore Apr 2015 #16
Wow! I tip my hat to you, sir. You get the point. hifiguy Apr 2015 #17
It's always good to see that even successful people understand Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #18
A three-run shot to the upper deck! Scuba Apr 2015 #19
Hey Scuba . . FairWinds Apr 2015 #73
... and getting tossed. Scuba Apr 2015 #101
And growing tomatoes in the outfield in the old Memorial Park. bulloney Apr 2015 #103
Excellent! And he has it right, it's been since the seventies. At first I read Orioles COO and freshwest Apr 2015 #20
It started when Nixon cut the GI Bill... freebrew Apr 2015 #108
K&R SamKnause Apr 2015 #21
K&R for an OUTSTANDING post. PatrickforO Apr 2015 #23
That about sums it up. democrank Apr 2015 #25
Well said, sir. Well said. 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #26
Holy shit! I need to dust off my Orioles cap. Vattel Apr 2015 #27
As Harry Carey used to say HOLY COW. Elwood P Dowd Apr 2015 #28
Run for President FreakinDJ Apr 2015 #29
Hammer nail, etc. nt Lucky Luciano Apr 2015 #30
Welcome to DU, chalmers! calimary Apr 2015 #31
K&R! Big time! marym625 Apr 2015 #32
This should have 1,000 recs malaise Apr 2015 #33
I'm trying, takes a long time to make up 1,000 aliases! But yes - agree!!! erronis Apr 2015 #37
DUzy malaise Apr 2015 #58
K&R! Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #34
mmmkkkkkay, bout says it all uponit7771 Apr 2015 #35
Of course he gets it ... it directly affects his business Auggie Apr 2015 #36
ALL execs should 'get it,' elleng Apr 2015 #57
I took in an Orioles game when I was visiting in Baltimore last year.... radhika Apr 2015 #38
hey O malley DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #39
Sure, if we get O'Malley for POTUS! elleng Apr 2015 #59
Wow. I would not have expected him to say this. City Lights Apr 2015 #40
Nailed it! ananda Apr 2015 #41
Is it too late to draft John Angelos for Democratic candidate? Ford_Prefect Apr 2015 #42
Another amazing description. But how, then, do you control the violence? jtuck004 Apr 2015 #43
WOW! Very well said! jomin41 Apr 2015 #44
kick hedgehog Apr 2015 #45
That blurb warms the heart of this ex-pat O-yo's fan DebbieCDC Apr 2015 #46
Someone send that to Clinton and ask her what she thinks. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #47
Are you going to use every post between now and the election.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #49
If you think what I said is "bashing" you are in for a loong primary season. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #51
Well the republicans will have a big old party for you.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #65
I have provided a number of good reasons for the common people to be leary rhett o rick Apr 2015 #66
She had nothing to do with the Gramm leach bliley act MaggieD Apr 2015 #67
Why yes.... Caretha Apr 2015 #64
Sums it up nicely! MaggieD Apr 2015 #48
Wow SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #50
Thank you Mr. Angelos Va Lefty Apr 2015 #52
Awesome. What's he doing about it? Brickbat Apr 2015 #53
K&R Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #54
SOMETHING ELSE! elleng Apr 2015 #55
Perfectly stated. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #60
Wow! Just wow. Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #62
His father Peter won the lawsuit against the tobacco industry. Dawson Leery Apr 2015 #63
Wow! k&r Gemini Cat Apr 2015 #68
Thanks for posting... mountain grammy Apr 2015 #69
Damn Good Statement, Mr. Angelos Thespian2 Apr 2015 #70
Dead on. Thank you, John Angelos! mahalo chalmers Cha Apr 2015 #71
Looks like somebody Kber Apr 2015 #72
He represented the team in the discussions with Cuba leading to the historic games ALBliberal Apr 2015 #74
Finally, an Angelos says something that I agree with! AnnieBW Apr 2015 #75
Welcome to DU, chalmers... Holly_Hobby Apr 2015 #76
another point ...his wiki page is impressive! he would be a dream candidate ALBliberal Apr 2015 #77
I have to admit when I read his statement my first thought was dflprincess Apr 2015 #78
yep...smart, concise, and sees the big picture! ALBliberal Apr 2015 #79
Wow!~ I just became an Orioles fan!!! gopiscrap Apr 2015 #80
Me too. KeepItReal Apr 2015 #88
Oh Yeah. Inspirational! Tace Apr 2015 #81
Wow! May the Orioles win the World Series. longship Apr 2015 #82
Quite possibly this tweet killed the TPP...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #83
I Really Appreciate These Comments... However, Right Now ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #84
A member of the 1% who totally gets it. Yes it is possible! ALBliberal Apr 2015 #85
That's what's happening. nt valerief Apr 2015 #86
wow! fishwax Apr 2015 #87
Add to post #83 ... I had wondered what Obama must be going through both libdem4life Apr 2015 #89
Bombard Obama and your representatives in Congress with his statement. SMC22307 Apr 2015 #90
Exactly how I feel this is my fourth post on this thread and I rarely post plus ALBliberal Apr 2015 #91
It reminds me of unfiltered Dean, way back when. SMC22307 Apr 2015 #92
yes. Dean would set my world to order. We hear so much BS and poll ALBliberal Apr 2015 #95
Amazing bongo_x Apr 2015 #93
I am suddenly an ardent Orioles fan! davekriss Apr 2015 #94
MR. ANGELOS IS CORRECT Skittles Apr 2015 #96
Bam! This guy gets IT! MysticHuman Apr 2015 #97
I wonder if some idiot is gonna say he should shut up and play ball. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #98
This Quote FTW! nt daredtowork Apr 2015 #99
Yeah, but that requires, like, THINKING ursumjunk Scootaloo Apr 2015 #100
No doubt about that John, no fucking doubt about that madokie Apr 2015 #104
That is a succinct and complete summary. malthaussen Apr 2015 #106
I just saw your post- I double posted this morning. Stunning perspective because it's spot on. midnight Apr 2015 #107
He nailed it - TBF Apr 2015 #109
I think I just became an Orioles fan. nt hvn_nbr_2 Apr 2015 #110
KnR Hekate Apr 2015 #111
Meanwhile, our Democratic Party is conspiring to send millions of additional jobs to Asia... whereisjustice May 2015 #112

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
5. His father, Peter Angelos is a lifelong Democrat, who started out as a lawyer for labor unions. n/t
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:05 PM
Apr 2015

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
102. A man who doesn't forget where he came from and sees the big picture. That's a rare bird.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:36 AM
Apr 2015

Too often, we see people of wealth who inherited what they have, but they act like it's all about them and they draw simplistic conclusions to what they see. They don't like past the end of their nose. It's all about me-me-me. I don't think most of these clowns are smart enough to know how to clean a toilet.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
11. NAILED it!
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:17 PM
Apr 2015

Thank you, Mr. Angelos, for a clear, concise, and deadly accurate description of the evil being perpetrated on working Americans. Now, what are we going to do about it?

Hillary's "vast Right-wing conspiracy" was not limited to making her life miserable 20 years ago. It has made exponential gains in momentum, power, and malice, and you cannot reason with greed-crazed psychopaths. They have shown us no mercy in their depredations, and they will not stop unless we make them stop.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
24. Momentum, power and malice. Our corporate overlords begin to sound more and more like
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:55 PM
Apr 2015

Sauron.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
18. It's always good to see that even successful people understand
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:24 PM
Apr 2015

The present socioeconomic trajectory is unsustainable. The rich cannot keep getting richer at the expense of the poor and middle class, the financial "industry," which by its very nature produces no wealth at all, cannot continue its privileged status and dictate economic policy to the government, the fossil fuel industries can no longer be allowed to befoul the air and water and, at the same time, hinder the development of renewable energy sources that are needed to literally save the planet from the fossil fuel industry.


 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
73. Hey Scuba . .
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:36 PM
Apr 2015

You're talking Earl Weaver now - his modus operandi for the
Birds was great pitching and three-run homers.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. Excellent! And he has it right, it's been since the seventies. At first I read Orioles COO and
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:30 PM
Apr 2015

thought, what, corporate voices are all we're going to hear now?

But what a pleasant surprise to read the words of someone who pulled no punches and said truths that may not be obvious to some.

In the seventies we could see this happening. I attibuted some of it to the debt for the Vietnam War. I've never believed that the leaders of nations make loans out of the goodness of their hearts when American jumps up and goes to war.

I think the breaking of the Ameircan worker is due to that, and it's not stopped. It wasn't altruism that caused China to hand over their money to the USA to play cowboys and indians in the Middle Eastern desert. Nope

They expected something for it. Previous adventures abroad have also had big contracts to pay back money for wars. I think there is more than one way to do this and it's not a simple thing.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
108. It started when Nixon cut the GI Bill...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:55 AM
Apr 2015

when our overlords decided it was dangerous to them to educate the proles.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
23. K&R for an OUTSTANDING post.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:53 PM
Apr 2015

Clearly John understands what's actually going on.

Wow. Just wow!

3catwoman3

(29,406 posts)
26. Well said, sir. Well said.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:02 PM
Apr 2015

I am not a follower of baseball, but am now a fan of the Orioles' COO.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,453 posts)
28. As Harry Carey used to say HOLY COW.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:21 PM
Apr 2015

That is rare for sports executives and owners. Most of them are total repuke jerks like Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
31. Welcome to DU, chalmers!
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:36 PM
Apr 2015

Glad you're here! GREAT post! EXCELLENT find! I'm really amazed to hear this out of the mouth of someone in the so-called "establishment." The Chief Operating Officer of the Baltimore Orioles. And he says THIS? Amazing.

REALLY refreshing to see and to read. He nailed it, too, of course. I hope to hear more of this from more of the higher places. We need people at the top of their game and their industry speaking out like this. John Angelos really gets it. This is EXACTLY what has happened. The past four decades have cursed this nation. It started in earnest with reagan. Actually, during the late '70s, here in California I'm ashamed to admit, with that damned, dreaded, utterly ill-conceived Prop13. Fucked with property taxes, and thereby kicked the supports out from under public schools, infrastructure, and multiple other things. ronald reagan rode into power on the monster wave generated by that damned Prop13. Thirteen was a VERY unlucky number for the rest of us. Sure was pretty lucky for him, though.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
32. K&R! Big time!
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:20 PM
Apr 2015

Which is EXACTLY why we cannot allow anyone in the white house that is working for the 1%

Auggie

(33,150 posts)
36. Of course he gets it ... it directly affects his business
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:33 PM
Apr 2015

And I mean this in a good way. How great would it be for more Execs to lobby on behalf of the poor and middle-class, even if the intent is to bring them more business?

elleng

(141,926 posts)
57. ALL execs should 'get it,'
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:23 PM
Apr 2015

especially if they're 'successful' in their businesses, and many probably do, tho in silence.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
38. I took in an Orioles game when I was visiting in Baltimore last year....
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:40 PM
Apr 2015

Kudos to Angelos, he does indeed get it.

I grew up in Baltimore City, later Baltimore County. I was a white Catholic school girl whose parents moved to the suburbs in the early 1960's. The suburbs were partly a response to racial turmoil in the city during an era of segregation, block busting and restricted communities.

Anyway, back to last August. My sister, brother-in-law and I (all Californians now) were visiting in Maryland and decided to take in a game. We were amazed how few of the attendees were persons of color, specifically African American. And Baltimore is and has been a Chocolate City, and Camden Yards in so easy to get to.

Yes, tickets are pricey. Agreed. But the O's were closing in on the Division Championship, and team spirit was super high in the whole city. It was surprising.

The population of the city has been falling, decent jobs are fleeing and outside trendy areas, urban decay is reclaiming some areas that were creatively gentrified during a period of civic restoration in the 80s.

If you spend any amount of time in Charm City, you'll see how racially divided it is. Lots of the cultural and tourist sites are primarily enjoyed by white vacationers and corporate groups. Many of my white suburban Maryland friends tell me they 'dread' going into downtown Baltimore - tried to warm me against it. "High murder rate". "Don't wear a nice watch, you'll be a target'.

Let's hope the city can start healing after this event. But, maybe not. Other cities have similar issues, and they don't seem to be healing.






Ford_Prefect

(8,612 posts)
42. Is it too late to draft John Angelos for Democratic candidate?
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 04:10 PM
Apr 2015

He'd scare the pants off of any Republican and a good few so-called Democrats!
I'm sure professional opinion-makers would be thrown for a loop when they ran the polls.

Right On! Right On! Right On!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
43. Another amazing description. But how, then, do you control the violence?
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 04:12 PM
Apr 2015

Probably not by signing onto the TPP.

Not hard to see the author's point, unless one's hood blinds them to the past 40 years.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
47. Someone send that to Clinton and ask her what she thinks.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:56 PM
Apr 2015

What a powerful statement. His NSA/CIA Security State surveillance quotient just went up ten points (and that's not good).

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
49. Are you going to use every post between now and the election....
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:37 PM
Apr 2015

To bash Hillary? If so, my opinion is that you don't belong on a pro Democratic Party web site. Your shtick is already old.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
51. If you think what I said is "bashing" you are in for a loong primary season.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

The Presidential election in 2016 is very important to the 99%. We are losing ground rapidly and with 8 more years of corporate dominated laws and policies, we might never recover. I think the OP is a very powerful statement. One that I want my candidate to believe in. I don't think Clinton is in tune with the OP.

I am going to hold Clinton, who is expected to raise close to $2 billion dollars for her election, accountable for her stands every step of the way. At $2 billion she would obviously be the favor of big money. There is a rule in politics, "you can't represent the people, if you represent the 1%."

While you may like her for her social issues, I would like to point out that her economic issues, foreign policy issues and NSA/CIA non-accountability issues may completely destroy the middle class and make our Constitution moot.

Sen Sanders represents the people. Clinton has very close ties to banksters like Goldman-Sachs. How can you overlook that?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
65. Well the republicans will have a big old party for you....
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:28 PM
Apr 2015

... when it's all over. By the way, your signature is a bash on a democrat.

But, can you add some facts to your future posts? Like objective evidence that she is all about rich people and in favor of income inequality, and stuff like that?

Would that be too much to ask? The fact free pronouncements of the HRC bashers are ALREADY old. And meaningless in that they are allegations without a shred of evidence. Reminds of republican reasoning, sorry to say. Republican posters never met a fact in their lives, and they like it like that.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
66. I have provided a number of good reasons for the common people to be leary
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:40 PM
Apr 2015

of another Clinton in the WH. For example are you familiar with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that made the banksters very happy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act

Where you aware that the Clintons are very close friends with Goldman-Sachs, the worst of the worse?

Tell you what. Why don't you tell us in the fields of economics, foreign policy, and the NSA/CIA domestic spying, why Clinton is our choice.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
67. She had nothing to do with the Gramm leach bliley act
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:44 PM
Apr 2015

She wasn't even in the senate then. What does that have to do with her?

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
64. Why yes....
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:24 PM
Apr 2015

yes it is a Democratic site. Perhaps you should check your dictionary for the definition of Democratic.

I don't believe anywhere in Webster's book does it say you must support Hillary for President and never disagree with her to be a Democrat....

well, of course I could be wrong, you may have one of those new fan dangled dictionaries - the one written by authoritarians evangelist ultra right wing teabagger goose steppers......naaa, you wouldn't be that closed minded would you? Well maybe you would.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
55. SOMETHING ELSE!
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:18 PM
Apr 2015

May have to change my allegiance; after all, who owns the Nationals??? Saddens me A LOT!

Dawson Leery

(19,568 posts)
63. His father Peter won the lawsuit against the tobacco industry.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:07 PM
Apr 2015

No surprise to see his son come out for working people.

mountain grammy

(29,035 posts)
69. Thanks for posting...
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:58 PM
Apr 2015
We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don’t have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ballgame irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.


John Angelos is looking at the big picture here.

ALBliberal

(3,340 posts)
74. He represented the team in the discussions with Cuba leading to the historic games
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:37 PM
Apr 2015

In 1999. Most impressive. I guess his dad owns the team. Getting a T Shirt. I am now a fan!

AnnieBW

(12,717 posts)
75. Finally, an Angelos says something that I agree with!
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:43 PM
Apr 2015

Sorry, but his daddy ruined the Orioles.

ALBliberal

(3,340 posts)
77. another point ...his wiki page is impressive! he would be a dream candidate
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:49 PM
Apr 2015

With his resume and the way he is helping manage that franchise. Truly inspirational.
One can't help but wonder at the "unfortunate" comparison that might be made between his success with the Orioles and that of Bush with the Texas Rangers!

longship

(40,416 posts)
82. Wow! May the Orioles win the World Series.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:26 PM
Apr 2015

Because I remember 1967 Detroit. I lived there. The city was aflame and the protesters weren't just cutting fire hoses; there were snipers firing at the firemen. LBJ called out the National Guard and I saw Jeeps with machine guns driving by my house. That and the nine days of smoke made Detroit a kind of a Hell.

But the next year the Detroit Tigers won the World Series in seven games, especially due to one Mickey Lolich, who pitched nearly flawlessly, plus a fierce team spirit. Both blacks and whites gathered downtown and danced in the streets. There was no looting or violence, just dancing, and singing, and cheering.

That's why the Orioles should win. It can transform a community.

We also need to do something about police on black violence. BTW, sooner would be better than later.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
84. I Really Appreciate These Comments... However, Right Now
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:30 PM
Apr 2015

most MSM is STILL talking about things like "a purge" and things of this sort!

Of course, the old saying that "things happen for a reason" comes to my mind. So if these things that are happening will FINALLY open the eyes of people in power then perhaps some good will come out of those who have had their lives "taken" by all this aggressive, hateful action going on by COPS who are supposed to "protect" victims!

I'm so filled with RAGE when all too many people blame the victims, and the showing of videos of bad acts by them when they have nothing to do with the killing! I understand how bad it looks when those who fight back and how it seems to add to what the COPS say about the WHY of what they did!

Is a Revolution brewing? I wonder. I will gladly join, this is no longer a country I recognize and most certainly NOT the way Democracy Looks Like!!!

ALBliberal

(3,340 posts)
85. A member of the 1% who totally gets it. Yes it is possible!
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:48 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:53 PM - Edit history (1)

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
89. Add to post #83 ... I had wondered what Obama must be going through both
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:28 PM
Apr 2015

personally and politically. It does bring the "global" trade agreements a bit into focus while we're watching a city burn for lack of jobs and racial disrespect/racism/bigotry/whatever, but no lack of police power when needed. No budget constraints.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
90. Bombard Obama and your representatives in Congress with his statement.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:48 PM
Apr 2015

Jaysuz, it's rare to hear such brutal honesty... it's like I'm clinging to it. Phew.

ALBliberal

(3,340 posts)
91. Exactly how I feel this is my fourth post on this thread and I rarely post plus
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:57 PM
Apr 2015

I messaged the link to several friends. Pitch Perfect.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
92. It reminds me of unfiltered Dean, way back when.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 12:07 AM
Apr 2015

No Clintonesque triangulation... aaaaaah.




ALBliberal

(3,340 posts)
95. yes. Dean would set my world to order. We hear so much BS and poll
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 12:19 AM
Apr 2015

Tested nonsense. This man's statement is lovely to behold.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
107. I just saw your post- I double posted this morning. Stunning perspective because it's spot on.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:33 AM
Apr 2015

TBF

(36,669 posts)
109. He nailed it -
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:38 AM
Apr 2015

And it's not often that I get to make that statement in regards to a leader of business.

It's interesting because many captains of industry prefer to look the other way when they've made it. Many come to believe the lies of capitalism rather than realize that they lucked out in one way or another while most are crushed by this system. I wish more who see it clearly would speak up.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
112. Meanwhile, our Democratic Party is conspiring to send millions of additional jobs to Asia...
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:28 PM
May 2015

Thanks, TPP.

There is a chasm between our political elite (and their insufferable apologists) and real people who live with the consequences of this shit.

Is that job in China, India or Vietnam really worth it?

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