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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:26 PM

Raine1967 (11,563 posts)

New Jersey sending NJ State Troopers to Baltimore:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/chris-christie-freddie-gray-baltimore

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) announced on Tuesday via Twitter that he would be sending 150 state troopers to assist Maryland in its response to the violence unfurling in Baltimore.

The violence that began on Monday was tied to protests, which sought answers about the death of Freddie Gray, who suffered a severed spinal cord while in police custody and died. Maryland's governor also announced some 2,000 national guardsmen would be dispatched to help stop the violence.

Is it just me, or does this seem like a really bad idea?

Larry Hogan (Maryland Gov) is, IMO, sending a message that Maryland State troopers alongside the state's national Guard can't take care of this. I really don't think the people of Baltimore will take too kindly to 'outsiders' policing their city. I know I wouldn't like it if it happened in my city.

… and then there's the optics of Christie sending state police when "the blacks" riot, but is mum when "the whites" do it…

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New Jersey sending NJ State Troopers to Baltimore: (Original post)	Raine1967	Apr 2015	OP
Oh my gosh	yeoman6987	Apr 2015	#1
Obviously Hogan. He's not handling his first State emergency very well....	FSogol	Apr 2015	#5
This message was self-deleted by its author	Raine1967	Apr 2015	#7
So far he isn't although not as bad as Ferguson but getting there	yeoman6987	Apr 2015	#8
That was my first thought as well.	Raine1967	Apr 2015	#9
Christie is making it sound like he offered and Hogan accepted:	Raine1967	Apr 2015	#10
Christie's grandstanding. Hogan looks bad. Christie thinks he can parlay this into being the GOP	FSogol	Apr 2015	#12
How does that work as far as jurisdiction, etc?	arcane1	Apr 2015	#2
It is usually a state police to state police agreement	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2015	#3
Maybe they are just setting up traffic cones?	FSogol	Apr 2015	#4
if it's Christie's idea - it is bad	lame54	Apr 2015	#6
this is not going to end well,	hollysmom	Apr 2015	#11
I hope they don't shut down 95...	justiceischeap	Apr 2015	#13
What is the significance of May 1 in your post? n/t	FSogol	Apr 2015	#14
That's when the investigation results are supposed to be released nt	justiceischeap	Apr 2015	#15
Jeebus.	Raine1967	Apr 2015	#16
Oh, thanks. n/t	FSogol	Apr 2015	#19
do you know how many State police are in Baltimore as of now?	Raine1967	Apr 2015	#17
No, they aren't giving out numbers. Just agencies. nt	justiceischeap	Apr 2015	#18

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:31 PM

yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)

1. Oh my gosh

Who asked for this?

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:37 PM

FSogol (43,643 posts)

5. Obviously Hogan. He's not handling his first State emergency very well....

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:43 PM

yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)

8. So far he isn't although not as bad as Ferguson but getting there

And what I mean by Ferguson is the leadership was horrid.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:44 PM

Raine1967 (11,563 posts)

9. That was my first thought as well.

https://twitter.com/GovChristie <— Christie is almost acting like he is taking control of the situation.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:46 PM

Raine1967 (11,563 posts)

10. Christie is making it sound like he offered and Hogan accepted:

https://twitter.com/GovChristie

Governor Christie @GovChristie · 4h 4 hours ago
I spoke directly with Maryland Governor @LarryHogan last night and let him know that New Jersey is offering our full support & solidarity…

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:51 PM

FSogol (43,643 posts)

12. Christie's grandstanding. Hogan looks bad. Christie thinks he can parlay this into being the GOP

law and order candidate. Unfortunately for Chrisite, complex problems do not have simple solutions and he'll end up looking foolish.
And that is even if some NJ cop doesn't screw something up.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:34 PM

arcane1 (38,613 posts)

2. How does that work as far as jurisdiction, etc?

Would the governor of MD have to grant them authority to operate there?

Seems like a really stupid move.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:35 PM

nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)

3. It is usually a state police to state police agreement

and it might have been already in paper, as a mutual aid agreement

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:37 PM

FSogol (43,643 posts)

4. Maybe they are just setting up traffic cones?

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:38 PM

lame54 (33,575 posts)

6. if it's Christie's idea - it is bad

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:47 PM

hollysmom (5,946 posts)

11. this is not going to end well,

NJ police have not the greatest relationships with the non-white community, there are state trooper roads (one is rte 7 I know best) where only non-whites are stopped. I say non-white because I have Indian friends who get stopped on 78 and they just stay cool and wait it out and never never speed. Although I have not heard any torture or murder stories since the 70's, so maybe things are better here.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:53 PM

justiceischeap (14,040 posts)

13. I hope they don't shut down 95...

Okay, bad joke but I don't understand why they need tri-state agencies when the General of the National Guard said last night that they have like 5k National Guard at hand too. So, basically, Hogan is bringing in up to 5k cops (some from the tri-state area) and then has up to 5k Nat'l Guard on hand too.

How many people does Hogan think live in Baltimore that are going to riot? Or is this the lead up to something coming out on Friday, May 1st?

Missouri tipped their hand like this too before the decision came out on the Michael Brown shooting.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:57 PM

FSogol (43,643 posts)

14. What is the significance of May 1 in your post? n/t

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:04 PM

justiceischeap (14,040 posts)

15. That's when the investigation results are supposed to be released nt

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:17 PM

Raine1967 (11,563 posts)

16. Jeebus.

this will not end well.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:38 PM

FSogol (43,643 posts)

19. Oh, thanks. n/t

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:18 PM

Raine1967 (11,563 posts)

17. do you know how many State police are in Baltimore as of now?

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:05 PM

justiceischeap (14,040 posts)

18. No, they aren't giving out numbers. Just agencies. nt

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