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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:45 PM

1. wow. fantastic.

 

I got that wrong. I really didn't think he'd end up running. And this must be real considering the source.

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Response to cali (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:46 PM

2. Yes VPR is very reliable.

It certainly is exciting.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:29 PM

212. He's a Dem now?

Don't get me wrong. Fanfuckingtastic! (I so seldom use "!"
But my understanding is he would have to declare as a Dem.
That said with no diss to HRC, I want to see some CW challenged
within the party. Go Bernie. Hilary, if you can sell me, go for it
but I need to see something more than "Vote Hilary she's not a Republican."
Good reason but not good enough.

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Response to Stryder (Reply #212)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:33 PM

214. In VT no one is really registered as either party, they just don't do it.

He's made it clear he will run in the Democratic Primary.

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Response to cali (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:05 AM

283. How will the Main Stream Media treat him?

Will they give him fair impartial coverage or brand him as a radical Socialist. We can be best assured how the Conservatives will smear him as a Communist as dreadful as Mao who is going to nationalize corporations, burn churches and indoctrinate the youth in a vile anti-capitalistic, anti-religious anti-democratic liberal philosophy in addition to seizing their cherished guns.

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Response to olegramps (Reply #283)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:24 AM

285. He's adept at handling the MSM

 

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Response to cali (Reply #285)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:49 PM

306. Truly the best handling media. They call him socialist for trying to protect Medicare and Soc. Sec.

 

Those ARE social programs. We LIKE them. So we must get over the name calling. He's much stronger than that.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #306)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:20 AM

326. I admire his ability to remain calm and on point, however:

The MSM has become nothing more than the bought and paid for mouth piece of the corporate millionaires. They have the ability to either provide concise accurate reporting or sinking anyone at will. Take for example the ACA. Every article that reports a problem with one of the exchanges no matter how insignificant is reported on the Front Page in bold letters. It is my experience with our local newspaper and a couple of others that I read on vacation that vast majority of numerous positive achievements are totally ignored. FOX is a glaring example of unethical reporting, however, the silence of the MSM is in reality even more effective in skewing public opinion.

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Response to olegramps (Reply #283)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:26 AM

323. Oh you can bet your sweet behind FOX will be in full force.

 

That Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Maoist. Why he'd turn this country into another Cuba, or Venezuela. This ought to be good. Hillary you are going to get hammered with the truth.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:47 PM

3. Finally

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:47 PM

4. Great man and I wish him the best.

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:47 PM

5. Yes!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:48 PM

6. I saw him speak a couple months ago.

 

Cant wait to see him again!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:48 PM

7. Thank you. K&R

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:48 PM

8. Good luck Bernie.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:49 PM

9. Good luck to Bernie!

 

I hope he does well.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:49 PM

10. I knew he would.

Now or never is here.

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Response to mmonk (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:22 AM

236. I'm with you

 

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Response to mmonk (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:44 AM

274. yep it's put up or shut up time...

if nothing else comes of it, the American people will get to see what a real primary fight looks like, in comparison to the clown car show that the GOP will be staging

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Response to Volaris (Reply #274)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:28 AM

276. see?

 

Unfortunately, most people will only see what's on T.V., an onslaught of negative ads from the rich.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:50 PM

11. If he does, I'm in for him with both feet! nt

 

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:51 PM

13. I'm awfully close to VT...

Love to see some kind of announcement event? It would be cool to attend.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:51 PM

14. Good luck! And, if you do, please takes pics/video if you can! nt

 

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:54 PM

16. I'm already in

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:55 PM

20. I'm for Hillary (as our only current candidate) until I have another choice. I...

 

...hope it's Bernie.

I will support Hillary if she is our nominee.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:07 PM

29. Fair Enough

It's early days yet. I wish we could get rid of the mem that "Bernie can't win" because that's meant to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. The conservative meda and the Democratic Party leaders will blast him no doubt. But that doesn't mean what he stands for can not resonate with voters.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:10 PM

31. Ignore it, is intended to depress enthusiasm, and it's not true. He will win if we vote for him,

it's that simple.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:12 PM

34. I'll be happy if his points are heard and he is treated with the respect he has EARNED

and DESERVES!

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #34)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:15 PM

43. We can make that happen. We made it happen for Obama, remember?

'Aim for the sky, if you want to hit a tree'!

I am thrilled to hear he is going to run.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #43)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:19 PM

48. I like it

I'm going to start telling everyone I know about Bernie. Get them to watch him on youtube. Whatever it takes so they start listening. That's all they have to do because he tells the TRUTH. I think he could be the next Teddy Roosevelt (and that's not a bad way to showcase him).

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #48)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:28 PM

57. I agree, start telling people about him. If everyone who currently supports him can get at least ten

other people to support him, and he will need donations, that would be a big help to him.

He does seem to get some media coverage. However there will be smear campaigns to contend with, but I think people are getting really tired about negative campaigns. All it does is show that they candidate isn't confident in their own policies winning an election.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #57)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:41 PM

95. "He's a socialist!"

That's what they'll be screaming.

My reply will be:

"About fucking time."

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #95)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:48 PM

98. And I will mention that he is a Democratic Socialist

 

and educate them as to the difference!
About fucking time, indeed!

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #98)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:47 PM

144. And I will mention that he is a Democratic Socialist

who shut out the Republicans in his home state. Nada, zip, zilch for the GOP.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #98)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:27 AM

268. If we can talk issues, substantively, we win.

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #95)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:59 PM

217. Lol, the smear machine is already working overtime, no doubt. The talking points will start to

appear before we know it. Their game is up, people are sick of the negative smear campaigns, and now we know a lot more about where they come from.

If they want to spend their Wall St money on that, rather than on pushing their choice of candidate's positives, that's their choice.

We don't have to do that, Bernie's record is better than all the expensive smear campaigns they can buy.

I've already lined up one VOTE FOR BERNIE from someone who never heard of him before, but she is now an enthusiastic supporter.

It was an easy sell.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #217)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:31 AM

259. Bernie makes me *want* to vote again!

Crucial thing for me.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #57)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:27 PM

123. They will make fun of Bernie and paint him as a dangerous radical, but

he expects that. He has a great sense of humor and gets amused when people throw those irrelevant accusations at him.

Vermont used to be a conservative state -- pre-Bernie.

Bernie is pragmatic in a healthy way. That is he has a good balance between idealism and pragmatism. He is not one who is unable to compromise. He will make a great candidate and a great president.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #123)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:55 PM

216. "paint him as a dangerous radical"

 

As if starting wars, deregulating wall street, allowing corporations to supercede U.S. law is moderate. I just have to laugh at the labels the media puts on reformists like Bernie who are actually trying to get this country out of the mess the "moderates" put us in. If that is "radical" then I guess I'm a radical supporter.

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Response to Joe Turner (Reply #216)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:08 AM

243. True.

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Response to Joe Turner (Reply #216)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:23 AM

265. Like I said prior, Bernie makes me *want* to vote again.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #123)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:08 PM

220. no, it wasn't. not at all. it was fiscally conservative and socially liberal

 

Lots of anti war republicans. Aiken, Prouty, Stafford (as in Stafford loans), Jeffords, Salmon and many more. And Vermont has been solidly liberal for over 40 years.

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Response to cali (Reply #220)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:11 AM

244. That's not what I see from this list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Senators_from_Vermont

Even in the 1930s, Vermont voted Republican. Please look at the list of senators from Vermont.

Very, very conservative even in the 1930s. Republicans.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #244)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:47 AM

260. Yes, Republicans, no not conservative on many,many issues.

 

I know the history of my state. Yes, these guys were Republicans. They wouldn't be today

Take George Aiken who famously declared that we should declare victory in Vietnam and get the hell out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Aiken
Senator Stafford:

<snip>

A Northeastern Republican, Stafford was generally considered a liberal, or "Rockefeller" Republican.

Stafford is best remembered for his staunch environmentalism, his work on higher education, and his support, as an elder statesman, for the 2000 Vermont law legalizing civil unions for gay couples.


<snip>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stafford

Vermont has a Progressive tradition going back to before it was a state- outlawed slavery in the Vermont Republic Constitution.

I'm not saying these guys were democrats or liberal on all issues, but they weren't considered conservatives in their day, and by today's repub standards, they'd be considered flaming liberals.



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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #123)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:20 AM

264. What's funny ....

Is I've seen some "libertarian" (note quotes) types that have expressed positive things about him. Not sure if that translates into voting for him, but they do think he's genuine.

That's the thing about Bernie, they can throw everything and the kitchen sink at him, but his record, at least from what I know, is spotless. He can deftly side-step those red herrings, and go straight to the issues. And if it's one thing I've learned, if you actually talk about the issues, and I'm talking substantively - no platitudes, then progressives win. If you don't, and you fall into the baiting and trapping caused by the conservative and reactionary establishment, progressives lose.

Give me Bernie any day of the week and twice on election Tuesday!

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #264)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:56 AM

298. So true. I am optimistic. He has a temper when it comes to the issues.

He is smart as a tack (whatever that means but it sounds good at the moment). He is brilliant in other words. And he is so down-to-earth and genuine. He will do well. His opponents will be surprised by him. The media won't know what to do.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #298)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:04 PM

304. I like temper!

Sometimes, it's warranted!

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #48)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:26 AM

238. I totally agree with your statement...

 

"I think he could be the next Teddy Roosevelt (and that's not a bad way to showcase him). "


Bernie!
F' Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:01 PM

74. +1

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:42 PM

225. Bernie, as the only true progressive about to announce getting in the race, will have my vote until a better choice announces his/her intention to run.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #225)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:45 PM

228. That is for sure. n/t

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #225)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:43 AM

299. Hillary is also a true progressive, Bernie agrees with Hillary on almost of the Issues

 



That is why he is becoming a Dem!

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #299)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:16 PM

317. It's one thing to talk the talk, like Hillary; it's another to walk the walk, like Bernie.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:24 AM

237. I am also a believer

 

The establishment on both sides hates him, but that is the very reason to elect him, IMO.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:12 PM

35. What he stands for is what the American people need to hear. And, if...

 

...they hear him well, he might just gain their confidence - and their votes!

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #35)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:14 PM

42. Agreed

We have to realize the 23%/Tea Party does not need to be catered to. But I know a hell of a lot of independents that might get revved up to vote for him. They are frustrated, tired and feel powerless to change anything. If they would only listen to him, he has so many great ideas.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #42)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:19 PM

45. The Independent Vote is now the biggest voting demographic in the country, it is over 40%.

Many were registered Dems, who helped get Dems control of everything in 2008.

This could bring them back.

Once news gets out to them, I have a feeling they will be excited.

No one can win without that vote.

And I think Bernie can get it.

He will be fighting huge amounts of money, but I think that may be one of the issues he runs on, the poisonous effects of Corporate money on our electoral system.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #45)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:21 PM

54. We have to make up for all that corporate cash with people power

I get frustrated with all the screeching from third wayers on DU about how he is another Nader (in the primary? duh). Perhaps if I step outside it will be better.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #54)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:55 PM

69. They did it in the Philippines. Why can't we?

 

I remember those inspiring days in the winter of Raygun





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Response to hifiguy (Reply #69)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:11 PM

165. Perfect

We need to help as much as possible. Bernie is not going to be raising scads of corporate cash, so we need to make sure our people power makes up for it.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #54)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:22 PM

116. Grassroots ALWAYS defeats corporatism. ALWAYS

 

and Bernie will be running such an grassroot campaign that will be people-powered.

That's what is very important and Bernie definetely gets it.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #45)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:40 PM

63. Will the fact that he's always been an Independent...

 

...resonate with the Independent Vote, even considering he has to run as a Democrat to have a chance?

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #63)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:53 PM

67. That's a good question. I think what will resonate with Independents, left leaning and moderates

is his message. I'm sure they will start polling Independents to see how they feel.

I would think too that his being an Independent shows a lot of savvy. For one thing, while he caucuses with Democrats, he isn't under the pressure to 'just go along' with the party so they have to WORK to get his vote. He uses that to get things for his own state.

Both parties have to work to get the Independent vote, while taking their base for granted.

So I can't answer your question, but I do think they will be interested in his candidacy.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #67)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:26 PM

122. Don't forget liberal Republicans

 

Yes, there are still some, but they are rapidly disappearing in shame of their own party.

Bernie attracts everyone. He has that magnetic personality and understands the 99%.

People will resonate with him, and reject Hillary Clinton as yet another corporatist Democrat that no-one wants for a President.

You guys can see Bernie leading the Party and getting progressives excited, and progessives issues has won in 2014, while Third Wayers lost. It's time to put a progressive program in that will put every progressives on the ballot for every race in the United States.

No more choices of "lesser of the two evils"

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Response to Very Orange (Reply #122)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:52 PM

148. I agree with you, and...

Welcome to DU!!

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Response to Very Orange (Reply #122)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:44 PM

227. You are right. There are still some Liberal Republicans, called Moderates now I believe. I know a

lot of them actually and they are really good people. Angry at their own party they are searching for a way to participate without furthering the madness in their own party.

Bernie is a perfect candidate for them. Not that well know so not tarred with the Right Wing Noise Machine feather yet, though I'm sure it will happen.

AND you are correct about the Mid Terms, which many here don't seem to have followed. Those mid terms show great hope for Democratic Candidates who run on Democratic issues, which Bernie will be doing.

You are correct that Dem Issues won on local ballots across the board. Unlike the Dem Leadership who BLAMED the voters for the losses of Third Way candidates, Bernie no doubt looked at those mid terms and what the people were saying and is now responding to that.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #63)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:35 PM

154. What is your opinion about that? nm

 

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #63)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:57 PM

231. Yes it will. Independents lean toward the Democrat side.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #45)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:28 PM

126. Yes.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:41 PM

93. I recall him saying he wasn't going to run unless he thought he could win.

 

That gives me some confidence that he's been getting a lot
of positive reinforcement.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:01 PM

105. and I will STILL support the Democrat...not the Independent running....

 

unless he actually becomes a Democrat...he doesn't have a chance at my vote....I vote for the Democrat. Simple as that.

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #105)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:27 PM

124. And he will become one of us on Thursday.

 

Or even that he has formally changed his party affiliation already and has not announced it yet.

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Response to Very Orange (Reply #124)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:28 PM

127. that is NOT what I just read...

 

he is going to run in the Democratic Primary...didnt say he was becoming one at all..

lets take a look at his odds of winning the Primary shall we?

Oh wow...he improved....his chances now? 0!

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #127)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:31 PM

130. I don't think you can still be an Independent

 

and run in the Democratic primary.

No, he'll turn Democratic on Thursday or he is one already and just haven't announced it yet.

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Response to Very Orange (Reply #130)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:37 PM

137. did it say he was BECOMING a Democrat?

 

anyone can SAY they are running as a Democrat....Has he officially become one yet?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #127)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:50 PM

146. Keep telling yourself that.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #146)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:51 PM

147. I don't have to...I have multiple websites that follow these odds to to tell me so...

 

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #147)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:52 PM

149. She hasn't won a goddamned thing yet.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #149)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:40 PM

174. No but she sure as hell is kicking ass and taking names....

 

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #149)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:41 PM

176. Yeah, but he has WEBSITES with ODDS!!!

 

How can you even RESPOND to THAT?

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Response to morningfog (Reply #176)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:44 PM

179. I don't, especially with that one. Beating one's head against a brick wall is a much more productive

and less painful endeavor.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #176)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:48 AM

246. Lol!

Yes, that's such a powerful argument.

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #127)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:40 PM

173. Here:

 

One ally — who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss Sanders’s timetable — said the 73-year-old senator is expected to make his intentions known this week and hold a rally in Vermont next month. He plans to run as a Democrat, according to his associates.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-bernie-sanders-to-launch-presidential-bid-on-thursday/2015/04/28/2b2802b8-edf0-11e4-a55f-38924fca94f9_story.html


I know you have had so much trouble understanding this. I hope this helps!

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Response to morningfog (Reply #173)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:41 PM

175. "according to his associates"

 

you mean like anonymous sources? That is your proof....when I have just shown that he doesn't have to....and he doesn't have to proclaim he is one in Vermont....and unless he says he is NOT an Independent and IS a Democrat...there is no other way for him to actually BE one...

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #175)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:42 PM

177. Your denial is painful to watch. Stay tuned. You will finally understand on Thursday.

 

Or you will continue with willful ignorance.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #177)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:43 PM

178. Well they say the truth hurts so I am not surprised you are hurting...

 

and I am merely pointing out how he isn't a Democrat just because he runs in our Primary. He first has to call himself a Democrat....but THEN he has to beat the field....let me introduce you to the field...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #178)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:49 PM

182. If you serisously think Sen. Sanders could even run for the Democratic nomination,

 

which he will be doing, if he were not a Democrat at the time of his running, you don't understand.

Again, your confusion (on this issue, you are on your own on everything else) should be cleared up by Sen. Sanders on Thursday. Join me in welcoming him to the party. It is going to be a joy to watch him run against Hillary. A true liberal enters the race on Thursday.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #182)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:51 PM

184. Yes I DO understand....

 

read...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/


He CAN run as an Independent in the Democratic Primary....

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #184)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:57 PM

185. From YOUR link:

 

Since you SEEM to APPRECIATE randomize capitalization so MUCH:

"He won't have to sign on to every plank of the Democratic platform in order to get in, but he will have to acknowledge that he is running as a Democrat," Devine said. "I think Bernie will have to do that."


As I have tried and TRIED to tell YOU, but you REMAIN so OBTUSE, he will be running as a fucking DEMOCRAT for the DEMOCRATIC nomination. What the FUCK don't you understand about THAT?

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Response to morningfog (Reply #185)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:58 PM

186. from your text...

 

"he thinks"...some guy...and ..not exactly definitive there is it?

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #186)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:00 PM

189. Alright. Let's try it this way.

 

When Sen Sanders announces on Thursday that he is running as a Democrat, will you accept it and shut the fuck up?

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Response to morningfog (Reply #189)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:02 PM

192. What do you mean "accept it"? I am just stating facts.....

 

and like I told the others....let me introduce you to the field of long standing Democrats with as much or more potential than Sanders...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #192)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:05 PM

193. Accept that Sen. Sanders is, in fact, running as a Democrat.

 

I see that you are already accepting it by pivoting to your book maker. A step at a time, congratulations.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #193)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:13 PM

199. No he has NOT said that....he said he is running in the Democratic Primary....

 

One step at a time?.....

MY gawd...that is like the steps at Chichen Itza at this point!

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #199)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:17 PM

221. Hey you~

On Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:53 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

No he has NOT said that....he said he is running in the Democratic Primary....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6586188

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The reason for the alert is the constant, consistent, always thread bashing for anyone that is not HC. By all means, cheer for your candidate. Make your points. But this is an always with this poster. This may be the wrong way to go about this but I don't know any other way. 16 posts on one thread bashing the reason for the post, Bernie Sanders. This poster does the same thing with O'Malley and Warren. And about half of the posts use the same links.
Yes, I am putting her on ignore. But she is really trying the patience of many people here. Per TOS: Don't do anything else which is similarly disruptive.

Just because it isn't listed here, doesn't mean it's ok. If you post anything which is obviously disruptive, malicious, or repugnant to this community, its members, or its values, you risk being in violation of these Terms of Service.
So why do so many have to put such a disruptive person on ignore?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:12 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are we going to alert FOOLISHLY! for a members party choice that we do not agree with? Holy mother. This is going to be a long haul to 2016. I may need a vacation. Facepalm!
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think this poster's relentless HRC boosterism, to the point of trying to bully the board into accepting "inevitability" and fast forward past the primaries, is lame, to say the least. And monumentally irritating. Personally, I wish they would give it a rest, not for the least reason that this sort of attitude does NOT help Hillary Clinton, who should be able to win a vigorous primary contest IF she is really half as strong a candidate as some of these folks claim.

That said, the post isn't breaking any of the specific list of rules which are the necessarily high par to have a jury hide it. A jury hide is a pretty serious move, only for serious violations. Merely posting something annoying, repetitive, lame, or wrong does not reach that standard. Sorry.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm being asked to hide a post that says that it will be very hard for Bernie Sanders to win the Democratic Primary? Pass. And I like Bernie a lot.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Holy shit. What a laugh.

I was #1~

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Response to morningfog (Reply #193)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:48 PM

229. I hope you have plenty of Tylenol or Advil. My head

aches just from reading this exchange.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #229)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:06 AM

232. Yup.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #193)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:34 AM

239. Dear morningfog and Vanilla Rhapsody

 

Hey you 2, cut it out!
We're on the same side here. Stop arguing about whether Certs is a breath mint or a candy mint.
Bernie is running! That's what counts.

Please save your fire for the inevitable rightwing/neoliberal/Mcarthyesque attacks to come.
You will need to save all your ammo for the real enemy.

Stop wasting it on each other over stuff that will definitely be resolved, possibly within days.


All supporters of Bernie are going to have to kick endless ass in the coming months, to make this happen.
Don't argue with each other.

Prepare for the fights to come.

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Response to nikto (Reply #239)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:05 PM

314. + 1

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #178)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:11 PM

198. As a candidate he will have a stronger impact on that Democratic Field...

I have no doubt.

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #175)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:21 PM

205. According to his senior advisor.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vermont-sen-bernie-sanders-announce-2016-presidential-run/story?id=30654408

You will vote for him for President when he wins the primary, right? If not, then some people on here might say you weren't a real Democrat.

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #105)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:04 PM

153. He said he would not run as an independent and be a spoiler like Nader. Don't worry, if he wins,

he will get the vote of Democrats.

Those who will NOT vote are voting for a RW GOP POTUS:

If Bernie Sanders Runs For President, It Won’t Be as an Independent: “I will not be a spoiler”

Naturally, “Will you run for president in 2016?” was the first question DFA Executive Director Charles Chamberlain asked Sanders. Though not definitive, his answer was enough to leave these activists hopeful.

“I am giving very serious consideration to it, but before you make a decision of that magnitude… you have to make sure that you can do it well,” Sanders said. “So what we are doing is reaching out to folks all over this country trying to determine whether or not we can put the grassroots organization together that we need.”

Sanders knows he will have to rely on grassroots mobilization to have a fighting chance at being elected, because his campaign will take on every monied interest. “If I run, we’ll be taking on the billionaire class,” he said. “That’s Wall Street, the drug companies, the military industrial complex.”

To the dismay some idealists, Sanders rejected the idea of running for president as an independent. “No matter what I do, I will not be a spoiler,” Sanders said. “I will not play that role in helping to elect some right-wing Republican as President of the United States.”

http://inthesetimes.com/article/17572/bernie_sanders_president

to pampango:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6140372#top

If he does not win the nomination, he will have taught many in his race and concede with grace. He campaigned against the GOP in 2014, and the alternative to their ruling was clearly by Democrats. He'll support the nominee of the Democratic Party, that I am sure. Obama said essentially, that a vote for Bernie would be like voting for a third term for him.

This primary is finally going to be interesting for all of us. I predict it will make the rightwing media rave and our side will learn a lot, along with the rest of the nation, to get the job done.

I am interested in all Democratic candidates who have shown a serious interest in becoming POTUS and at his point there is only Hillary and Bernie. He has more media coverage than hers, and is more direct. I see where she is coming from... I can grasp where he is coming from better.

I will be glad with both, they each have lessons for Americans to learn to resist aristocracy and inequality. If Sanders holds firm to equality, particularly of half the population of this planet, which would be the true solution to economic issues, I can see HRC supporters getting behind his candidacy if he wins. And HRC herself will. It's really not about the persons who only have a brief time on the world stage, it's about the ideals and lives beyond the one and it's why I'm PROUD to be a DEMOCRAT.

And likewise, if HRC wins, those who care will vote Democratic. We need at least a generation of forward minded people, not those who have fallen for the Bircher line sold by the Koches, to even BEGIN to undo the damage and the horrors that we have seen.

I'm hoping that the real truth teller (not the CT commerical versions of the truth bringing about a Libertarian nightmare) the man in Baltimore who described the reason for the misery and violence in this country, will offer support to Bernie's candidacy, or influence his friends of means, and the fan base of the various cities, to help:

Orioles COO John Angelos offers eye-opening perspective on Baltimore protests

"My greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state."

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/orioles-john-angelos-baltimore-protests-mlb

to chalmers:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026574923

This is the unifying cry of the American vision. As FDR said:

A liberal is a man who uses his legs and his hands at the behest - at the command - of his head. We build a way of life, not for America alone, but for all mankind.

That kind of 'exceptionalism,' I can get behind. Millions who came here since then came because of that vision. It is a 'work in progress.' And the war that has been declared upon the African American population for centuries will end under principled hands by Democrats. JMHO.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #153)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:50 PM

183. difference is....Nader ran as an independent Independent....not an Independent Democrat...

 

but lets just pretend that he wins the Primary....currently Bernie has odds of winning the Primary at 0 and doesn't even register for the General.....Let me introduce you to the field of Democrats...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

and the field...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016president

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #183)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:14 PM

200. That field is about to change apparently.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #200)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:14 PM

201. Tough row to hoe...

 

the longest of longshots!

by the way...if you checked it....Bernie is ON the list of Democratic potential candidates...his chances of winning the Primary? 0!

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #201)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:16 PM

203. Sure and I think Senator Sanders recognizes that...

But I also think he genuinely feels he can impact the national political discussion in a positive way, I tend to agree.

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #183)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:24 PM

209. My browser shows a big blank. All I've heard about with names outside their own areas, are H and B.

The others have not been talking about or organizing state by state as those two have. To me, they are not serious contenders.

Show me another who has gone coast to coast like Sanders or Clinton, then we're talking.


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Response to freshwest (Reply #153)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:47 AM

240. John Angelos gives me hope

 

Thanks for sharing that.

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #105)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:27 PM

211. If he wins the Democratic primary, he'll be the Dem candidate

I realize that's a big "if," but if he wins it, he'll be "the Democrat" running against whoever wins the R primary.

In the primary, there will hopefully be several Democrats from which to choose.

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Response to cyberswede (Reply #211)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:50 AM

301. If he wins primary: Dem's will lose the General against the GOP

 


The kind of thinking behind Bernie is the kind of thinking that
put Nadder into the race, and gave us George Bush and
the Irag war!

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #301)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:11 PM

308. Hardly.

Nader ran IN ADDITION to a Democratic and Republican candidate. If Bernie wins the primary, he will run AS the Democratic candidate.

Sanders has said he won't run as a spoiler.

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #105)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:55 PM

311. Well, that's not a very smart way to look at things ...

... but do as you must.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:35 AM

287. "I will support Hillary if she is our nominee"

 

' And God Bless America'! MUST be said to demonstrate loyalty and patriotism, lest it should ever come into doubt.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:24 PM

120. Me too.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:50 PM

156. Ditto to that.

 

First time in my 44 years I've donated to a politician - just did it. Next up - volunteering...

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Response to RiverNoord (Reply #156)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:12 PM

168. I don't believe in donating money, but I have for Bernie

Signed up to volunteer too. He needs our help!

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #168)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:44 PM

215. Bernie literally has had more media coverage in the last year, face to face, than HRC. I do believe

in donating money, but I honestly cannot do it this time. Things are getting out of hand now. The COO of the Orioles or his friends might donate money, so may others. He probably supports Bernie. If he supports Hillary, there must be something there not being revealed, at DU.

I don't see Bernie as aggravating any particular group. He's been caucusing with the Democrats for years. He's not all 'independent,' although it's possible Vermonters don't want two Democrats in the Senate, they may want something different.

Good for you to be working in the campaign. Even if he doesn't win the nomination, the American people need the education that only Bernie can give them in plain talking. I see HRC as wanting the same despite the rumor industry on her, which is not effective on those of us who lived in and were politically active (no, not the fabled third wayers) back then to see the reality on the ground.

She has said Democrats are not elected to be the mouthpiece of Wall Street, so she is not all the bogeywimmen she's been made out to be. That is what she was when she entered office. And she's very hard headed and very consistent. SO IS BERNIE!

But she's so hard to understand until she gets angry and really tells the GOP off, which she has done on numerous occassions. Her life and views were shaped in a later era than Bernie and that's the primary difference between them.

He is like people I know, New Deal Democrats whose main purpose is equality under the law, due process, and social conditions to bring that about. Social justice is what is needed, and we cannot be free without it. That requires unity, and we've not had that for much too long in this country.

Um, maybe I should have said this to the person you were replying to but I've got to go and will leave it.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #215)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:02 PM

218. I appreciate your answer

I am not anti-Clinton, but I do think that we need strong medicine for this country right now, so Sen Sanders has my support. I don't send money to politicians because I think they should all be on public financing. Plus, I send my money to charities and organizations who could really use it instead. I think the main objection to Sanders the candidate is the false notion that "he can't win" which I hope those who support him can prove is not true. We'll see. I hope he is ready for the MSM long knives.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:54 PM

19. Me too! nt

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:41 PM

140. I am2

 

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:21 AM

235. F' Yeah!!!!

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:51 PM

12. yay!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:52 PM

15. Ya Hoo !!!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:54 PM

17. Great news!

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:54 PM

18. Hotdog !

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:56 PM

21. oh yea. good to hear. i expected it. glad he got in now. work to be done. i am on board. nt

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:57 PM

22. Best K&R of the day!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:58 PM

23. What?! YES!!!!

 

I LOVE BERNIE! I would vote for Bernie Sanders above anybody else! He is one of the most outspoken politicians that consistently stands up for the underdog in America. He always speaks with integrity and intelligence. He is one of the few who GETS IT. I pray that his campaign finds the support among the American people that we need to see him into office. This made my day!

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Response to 1HappyDemocrat (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:01 PM

26. I try :)

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Response to 1HappyDemocrat (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:24 PM

207. Welocme to DU!!!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #207)

Fri May 1, 2015, 04:48 PM

328. thank you!!!

 

btw I love your quote! that just about sums up America. I posted my first post about a gofundme project I did for college this semester. The first comment? Well it was ugly. I am a single mom whose need was real so the gofundme was a legitimate campaign, but it also served an academic purpose. I came to this forum because my professor recommended it to help gain insight on how people feel towards this issue. The first and only response to my post was, in a nutshell, "you just signed up on here to ask for money, shame on you". My response was, umm, no, I am on here to learn and grow as a Democrat. I posted the post to get feedback. I removed the gofundme link and kept my post hoping that people with genuine thoughts would offer me their insights. Those of you who have been kind to me on here, it is greatly appreciated. Thank you for welcoming me.

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Response to 1HappyDemocrat (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:56 AM

261. Silly

 

Bernie will drop out of the race by January. Due to a lack of funds. The chances of Bernie getting the nomination are the same as Ted Cruz getting the Republican nomination. It will be political suicide if Bernie gets the nomination. I guess some people who post on DU would like to see Walker or another Bush in the White House.

Be Smart
Hilary 2016

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:59 PM

24. I'm with Bernie!!!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:00 PM

25. That's great. I can consider supporting him in the primaries.

I would not have even bothered if he ran as an Independent.

I must thank him for running as a Democrat, and will probably support him as much as I would O'Malley at this time, since I haven't decided who I will fully go for.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:05 PM

27. YAY!!!!!

 

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #27)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:43 PM

226. Can I join you guys in there?

<- me

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Response to marym625 (Reply #226)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:15 AM

241. Always room on the good ship Sanders!

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:07 PM

28. Go Bernie!!!

 

Best news possible!!

K&R


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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:08 PM

30. I hope it's true, and if it is, I will be willing to work for him as hard as possible.

Very exciting news!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #30)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:19 PM

47. unimpeachable source- Bob Kinzel at Vermont public radio

 

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Response to cali (Reply #47)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:15 PM

202. Yup.

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Response to cali (Reply #47)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:04 PM

219. Yes, it appears you are right, it's on Reuters and the AP.

Now you will have to share your Senator with all of us. I used to envy his constituents. '

Already lined up one vote for him. Someone who didn't know him before, now she does and I have to say, when you stick to the issues it's easy.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:11 PM

32. It's like waiting for Christmas

 

C'mon Bernie, get out there!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:11 PM

33. Which way to the recruiting office. Sign me up.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:12 PM

36. Happy Dance Time!

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Response to DJ13 (Reply #36)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:30 PM

128. I can't stop staring at your .sig

 

the one on the left - what movie is that from?

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Response to Very Orange (Reply #128)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:13 PM

169. I wish I knew, I just found it in a Google image search of .gifs

Sorry!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:13 PM

37. I think the first thing he should do...

...is to make a statement that he is running for all disenchanted voters, Republicans and Democrats alike, to try and clean up this mess that both political Parties have gotten our country into. That is just my opinion. I'm sure many will want him to run as a Democrat, which is what I suppose he will do? However, I think his appeal could be very broad with the political realities as they are.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #37)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:14 PM

41. Word has it that he'll be running as a Democrat. And I agree with you...

 

...despite his party affiliation.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:13 PM

38. Finally. A voice that represents --

 

what I think are the very best ideals of the Party and country. So incredibly happy right now to have someone to vote FOR.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:13 PM

39. let's see how his logo stacks up to Hillary's

he's got his work cut out for him.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #39)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:20 PM

49. Or...

Last edited Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Hillary's logo set the standard so low... 😊

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #49)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:03 AM

247. Yep, it sure did.



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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:13 PM

40. He has my vote

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:16 PM

44. K & R !!!

 


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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:19 PM

46. Good.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:20 PM

50. I will make it a point to be at the campaign kickoff event.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #50)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:39 PM

139. You will have to represent for DU's Bernie group!

You might even be able to organize a meet up at it, he's got a lot of support here. I'm in NC so I won't make it, lol! But we'll expect pics!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:21 PM

51. America needs Bernie.

I hope enough people will see who will move us forward and who will give us the status quo. We need radical change in so many ways, and Bernie Sanders would be the most likely candidate to get things started. He already has my vote and I'll encourage everyone I can to vote for him in the primary.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:21 PM

52. WooHoo! Run, Bernie, Run! You've got my vote and my support!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:21 PM

53. YEA!

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:26 PM

55. HuffPo Has It Too:

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:28 PM

56. Good, this will only strengthen Hillary! nt

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Response to boston bean (Reply #56)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:35 PM

134. Actually it'll greatly weaken Hillary

 

when she is indefensible on her stance with the 1% and Third Way politics.

Bernie will be able to debate Hillary on such issues and hand her ass, because she literally has no defense WRT economics issues and her support of TPP which is 100% indefensible.

So, yeah, I think HRC will lose because of such issues that has hurt the 99%'ers very deeply.

Income inequality is a MAJOR issue and Bernie knows this issue very well. And recent reports shows that Clinton is trying to be the 1% of the 1%. No excuses for that. None.

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Response to Very Orange (Reply #134)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:18 PM

204. .

Income inequality is a MAJOR issue and Bernie knows this issue very well. And recent reports shows that Clinton is trying to be the 1% of the 1%. No excuses for that. None.


Lol, what is that supposed to mean?

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Response to Very Orange (Reply #134)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:58 AM

278. You are confusing wishful thinking with political analysis. Sanders strengthens Hillary. His attacks

 

will impact on Republicans 100 times more than they impact on Hillary.

And his progressiveness will make Hillary look like a moderate and will help her win swing voters and make it much harder for Republicans to paint her as an extreme Liberal, which is their default strategy against Democrats.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:29 PM

58. Yipee!!! Happy Day

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:30 PM

59. I am glad that he is in the race...

I think this is a long-shot. However, so many in our party are very unhappy with Clinton--and also with her
seemingly ending up as our only choice.

I think the more people that jump in the race, the better.

I'd like to see Jim Webb dive in head first.

I support Bernie and I love his passion. He's one of the very few people telling it like it is--when it comes to corporatism, political corruption, the decimation of the middle class and the immorality of war.

Glad to see him in!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:31 PM

60. Best news of the day. Finally, someone who

is willing to address the needs of Americans. nt

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:35 PM

61. EXCELLENT!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:38 PM

62. Finally, A Socialist!!!

But he's not Kenyan, I don't think.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:43 PM

64. A candidate for the people!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:46 PM

65. Recommend. nt

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:50 PM

66. YES!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:53 PM

68. I'll vote for him in the primaries and for her in the election.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:55 PM

70. He's not electable in the general, but...

 

I'm grateful that he will help steer the debate to the left. This is good news!

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #70)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:58 PM

72. I believe he is quite electable nt

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Response to G_j (Reply #72)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:07 PM

77. Ok - you're certainly entitled to your opinion

 

Mine is that he is going to play the Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton role. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

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Response to G_j (Reply #72)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:53 PM

150. YOU might think so....but the bets are not ON him...

 

odds are 0 of winning the primary...
http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #150)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:36 PM

171. of course it would be you

why not go hang out on Hillary thread?

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Response to G_j (Reply #171)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:38 PM

172. And why should I?

 

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #172)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:58 PM

187. whatever

maybe you'll become the only person I have on ignore..

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Response to G_j (Reply #187)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:00 PM

190. is that supposed to hurt my feelings for some reason?

 

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #70)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:52 PM

99. That is your opinion.

 

In my not so humble opinion, Bernie is the MOST ELECTABLE candidate! He is speaking out on all the issues that concern each and every one of us, and he doesn't only talk the talk, he walks the walk.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #99)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:55 PM

102. I'd love to see him win

 

I just don't think the majority would vote for him. Hell they think Obama is a socialist. There is no way they will vote for a real one. Time will tell.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #102)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:19 PM

111. He's a Democratic Socialist, NOT a Socialist

 

There IS a difference.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #111)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:55 PM

152. He will be painted as and perceived as a socialist

 

That's just a fact. Hell, Obama is a democrat and he is perceived as a socialist by many. The general public doesn't do nuance.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #152)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:45 PM

160. That word isn't as scary as it used to be, especially to young people. Also, unlike the rest of

the clowns in the car that is the 2016 Presidential race, Bernie gets out of the bubble and spends time with real people. He knows how to talk to them without being condescending and that goes a long way. My sister who was brain washed by Rush Limbaugh in the 90s likes Bernie Sanders a lot.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #160)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:57 PM

162. He has to get nominated first

 

I don't share your optimism because I don't think anyone who bills themselves as a democratic socialist is going to do well in the early primary states. And he will have to in order to build momentum to get the nomination. I'm also skeptical that he can raise enough money to mount a credible campaign.

If he runs as an independent he is as dead to me as any republican. If he runs as a democratic candidate I wish him well. And if he gets the nomination I will definitely vote for him in the general. He's a good guy.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #162)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:06 PM

164. Every report states that he's running as a Democrat. Bernie himself has stated he

doesn't want to be a spoiler. My Republican sister, who likes Bernie and would vote for him, would rather be eaten alive by fire ants than vote for Hillary.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #164)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:11 PM

166. That's good - I saw a post quoting CNN

 

... stating his camp denied that. But it wouldn't be the first time CNN got something wrong.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #166)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:21 AM

255. Or the 2nd

or 3rd, 4th and 5th. CNN...what garbage.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #152)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:45 PM

180. they called Obama a socialist and he won

Most people won't care about labels, especially once someone hears him talk. He speaks for the American people. You greatly underestimate the enthusiasm he is capable of generating.

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Response to G_j (Reply #180)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:49 PM

181. Yeah, but Obama did not call HIMSELF a socialist

 

If Bernie runs as a democratic candidate I will support him if he gets nominated. If he doesn't - fuck him. I'm a democrat.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #181)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:07 PM

196. he will nt

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #152)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:33 PM

213. Any Democrat who runs will be painted as a socialist by th RW...

so that's virtually meaningless. Maybe a real Democratic Socialist will inspire some left-leaning folks who usually sit out to vote this time around.

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Response to cyberswede (Reply #213)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:42 AM

242. Yes, Obama alluded to that in the WH Press Dinner. I don't think he was mocking Bernie, he means it.

Said it'd be his third term.

They will definitely try to paint him that way but there are more people who support Scandinavian style socialism or a New Deal approach, than the media thinks.

The issues that Bernie is big on resonate with most Americans.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #70)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:52 AM

253. Because of course the republican candidates are so fucking amazing?

 

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #70)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:50 AM

290. Laugh-In's "News of the Future" segment.

 


"President Ronald Wilson Reagan ..." {laughter}


You may not be old enough to remember this, but the phrase "President Reagan" was an actual punch line.


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Response to ieoeja (Reply #290)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:00 AM

291. Should have stayed that way

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:57 PM

71. As a Democrat? How does that work if he's not registered as a Democrat?

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Response to George II (Reply #71)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:02 PM

75. well, for one thing,here in Vermont there is no party registration

 

I imagine it's as simple as declaring he's running as a dem. Of course I could be wrong

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Response to George II (Reply #71)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:11 PM

81. He can declare as a Democrat at any time

 

If he runs as an independent then he is as dead to me as any republican candidate.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #81)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:21 AM

249. He's running in our primaries. THAT puts the question to rest.

 

Bernie's loyalty and motives are not in question.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #249)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:37 AM

250. Not according to the DNC bylaws

 

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #250)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:47 AM

251. Running in our primaries is the same thing as declaring yourself to be a Dem.

 

He becomes a Dem simply by doing so.

Why are you so obsessed with getting him to formally SAY he's a Dem when that's now a moot point? Are you going to demand that he apologize for ever being an independent at all?

Bernie's decision to stand in the primaries proves, once and for all, that he'll never go third-party in the fall.

Give it a rest. You have no reason to keep beating this dead horse.

Bernie's campaign is not against the Democratic Party, and can't hurt the party's chances in the fall.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:58 PM

73. Go Bernie Go!!!!!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:04 PM

76. Finally!

Someone that I can now fully support. Fantastic news! I don't really know how I feel, but ecstatic comes close to it!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:08 PM

78. I can't wait for the debates

Bernie will make the debates worth watching and will help get the issues that are important out in the open so everyone running can tell us how they will fix the problems we have. Go Bernie!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:08 PM

79. Finally someone I can fully support in the Democratic primary! He has my primary vote.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:10 PM

80. Hooray!

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Response to kentuck (Reply #82)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:18 PM

84. +1. n/t

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:17 PM

83. About time... (nt)

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:18 PM

85. Thank you Bernie

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:19 PM

86. Excellent! n/t

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:19 PM

87. K&R! Yay, Bernie!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:21 PM

88. Thou art Freedom! Justice! Wisdom! Peace!

From The Mask of Anarcy

What art thou, Freedom? O! could slaves
Answer from their living graves
This demand—tyrants would flee
Like a dream’s imagery :

‘Thou are not, as impostors say,
A shadow soon to pass away,
A superstition, and a name
Echoing from the cave of Fame.

‘For the labourer thou art bread,
And a comely table spread
From his daily labour come
In a neat and happy home.

‘Thou art clothes, and fire, and food
For the trampled multitude—
No—in countries that are free
Such starvation cannot be
As in England now we see.

‘To the rich thou art a check,
When his foot is on the neck
Of his victim, thou dost make
That he treads upon a snake.

‘Thou art Justice—ne’er for gold
May thy righteous laws be sold
As laws are in England—thou
Shield’st alike both high and low.

‘Thou art Wisdom—Freemen never
Dream that God will damn for ever
All who think those things untrue
Of which Priests make such ado.

‘Thou art Peace—never by thee
Would blood and treasure wasted be
As tyrants wasted them, when all
Leagued to quench thy flame in Gaul.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:24 PM

89. very best

 

I wish him well. In an utopia( sounds so funny) he wins. And those of you who are working for him, I hope he would win, not just give Clinton a challenge, BUT it ain't going to happen. Been there too many times, when I was passionate about a certain candidate (starting with McCarthy). I've been a pol. junkie for 50 years(as I'm sure a lot of you have too.). I'm convinced that 80% of the country is clueless to what YOU know is happening in Washington. I'm convinced.

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Response to dpatbrown (Reply #89)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:36 PM

135. In a real utopia he would be the conservative candidate but I'm happy to support him here.

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Response to dpatbrown (Reply #89)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:19 AM

272. There's always that group

who thinks they need to pee on anyone's happiness that there is a candidate to actually support. Any candidate worth supporting always gets the "he can't win."

And while the probability that he could get the nomination might be low, that's not going to stop me. If I don't enthusiastically and energetically support candidates who will make the differences I want to see when I get the chance, those differences never have a chance. And if those differences never have a chance, I don't have a reason to show up at all.

I'm convinced that the changes I want to see will only have a chance if I, and all those who want those changes, have the courage to act on them, rather than be marginalized and silenced by the "never happen" crew.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #272)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:06 AM

275. Group?????

 

I'm happy that you won't stop. I plan to vote for him too. But if I'm in a group, it's a group of one. Your comment about not showing up at all is the same sentiment that got Nixon elected in 1968. Trust me, I'm not trying to throw water on anybody, only being realistic. I truly hope I'm wrong, but have seen defeat so many times. Imagine how much money would be raised by the rich to defeat Sanders in a general.
LWolf, it will take a lot more than courage.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:33 PM

90. I watched his 8-hour filibuster

A great man. So glad we get to work for him now.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:37 PM

91. He can't win but he can help the GOP!

I see nothing positive here.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #91)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:40 PM

92. How is Bernie running as a Democrat going to help Republicans?

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #92)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:12 PM

109. It won't. Bernie will be a blessing to informed discussion. That never helps the GOP /nt

 

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #92)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:19 PM

112. Will he attack the GOP or Hillary?

Then we will know.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #112)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:33 PM

131. Did Hillary attacking Barack Obama help Republicans?

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #131)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:07 PM

195. good question.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #131)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:13 PM

318. Of course it helped Republicans

Just because he won doesn't me her attack ads didn't hurt him.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #318)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:20 PM

319. You think Republucans can't come up with attack ads

on their own? Did you sleep through the 90s?

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #319)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:20 AM

325. Good point..

and I see Hillary has come out against TPA and that is from pressure from Dems inspired by Warren and Bernie. Plus Robert Reich wrote a good piece about him being in the race will keep Hillary to the left.

Hey, I am coming around.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #112)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:48 PM

145. He will attack the issues...

He will attack the republicans and their issues, and while he will disagree with Hillary on many issues, he will treat her with civility and respect. You may not know, but I do...I have been watching and listening to him for many years.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #112)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:36 PM

224. Bernie was attacking the GOP when Hillary was supporting Goldwater and interning for Republicans

 

He has attacked the GOP longer and harder than any Democratic candidate in the field. Who has been there to support working class men and women as often as Bernie? He deserves our trust and support

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #91)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:23 PM

206. Disagree.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #91)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:11 AM

271. "I see nothing positive here."

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:41 PM

94. Bravo!! K&R

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:43 PM

96. Yea , Now those here

who support him spread the word and talk Bernie and his positions up to all we know.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:46 PM

97. Run Bernie, Run

 

He has my support ALL THE WAY!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:53 PM

100. I am glad he is running, and as a Democrat

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:54 PM

101. Republicans won't vote for Clinton...but they will vote for Senator Sanders

 

Republicans already do vote for Sanders in VT.

Want a real Democratic President in 2016? Vote Sanders.

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Response to TheProgressive (Reply #101)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:56 PM

103. Then why is he an independent

 

And not a Democrat?

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Response to philosslayer (Reply #103)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:59 PM

104. I am not sure why this is important...

 

What do you mean?

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Response to TheProgressive (Reply #104)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:13 PM

110. This is the DemocraticUnderground

 

Not the Independent Underground. We support Democratic candidates for office. Read the charter. Senator Sanders is, quite simply, not a Democrat.

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Response to philosslayer (Reply #110)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:27 PM

125. Well, Senator Sanders would be the candidate that acts and votes like a real democrat

 

Even still, my statement that republicans will not vote for Clinton but would vote for Sanders remains true...

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Response to philosslayer (Reply #110)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:44 PM

155. Quite simply there is no party registration in my state

 

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Response to cali (Reply #155)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:10 PM

197. Maybe you don't understand how it works

 

Whether a state has party registration or not, a candidate has to declare as a Democrat to run in the democratic presidential party.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #197)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:24 PM

208. And he will.

He's said this multiple times.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #208)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:26 PM

210. Last I heard he was undecided on that

 

I hope he does. I would welcome him with open arms. I love all democrats. Especially liberal democrats.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #210)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:50 AM

252. The issue is put to rest if he runs in our primaries.

 

You're acting like Bernie's a heretic and you're the Inquisition.

I've proven you have no reason to belabor this tiny technicality.

A candidate in the Democratic primaries IS a Democrat. Case closed.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #210)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:28 AM

258. Why don't you ask Senate Democrats if he's a Democrat?

After-all, they're the ones who have given him the ranking Democratic seat of the Senate Budget Committee.

If they consider him enough of a Democrat to allow him to represent them in one of the most important committees in the Senate, maybe you could consider him one, too?

I understand your fears that he might run as an Independent and act as a spoiler, much in the way Nader gave us W, but that's not what Bernie's about. He understands his electorate, understands people in general, and he's not going to run for his own vanity just so that purists can ensure the Democratic candidate loses.

He is running for the sole purpose of ensuring the Democratic Party of 2016 has the opportunity to debate among itself the virtues of its platforms.

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Response to TekGryphon (Reply #258)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:25 AM

293. Yup.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:10 PM

106. It's on

the fight for democratic nomination as well surivial of social safety net and middle class.

Isn't it ironic the first one ready to fight hillary for the democratic nomination is untill thursday technically an independent.

Bernie has history of standing up against free trade deals.And for protecting ss,medicare,and medicaid.

Wall street doesn't own him.

he and elizabeth warren are two who talk the real issues.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:11 PM

107. Cool beans!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:11 PM

108. Cool.

 

K and R

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:20 PM

113. Oh, good. Now I have a Democrat to vote for.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:21 PM

114. Bernie!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:21 PM

115. Yay!!! and DU rec

I just went onto his website and donated 45 bucks!
Run Bernie, Run!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:22 PM

117. Thank you, Bernie.

Let the race begin, and may the best candidate win.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:23 PM

118. outstanding

Excited...wonderful...awesome

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:23 PM

119. You go Bernie!!

I hope that the admins at DU will allow him to have a fair shake. It's obvious that Skinner is in the tank for Clinton. I hope that he allows us to start up a Bernie group.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:25 PM

121. Great news!

I remember voting enthusiastically for Bill Clinton the first time around, but in my lifetime Bernie is the best candidate I've experienced. Never have disagreed with one single thing he's said, he's truthful and carries absolutely no baggage. "Socialist" is just a label (and not a bad one at that), but his votes and actions are what count and what should get him nominated and elected. A champion is what we need, and we have that in Bernie. I love the enthusiasm in this thread and others - now we have to pony up support by way of time and money.



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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:31 PM

129. Me too! Go Bernie!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:34 PM

132. Can any of them talk about their voting record with the pride of

 

this man ???? We've got a shot of avoiding NWO in our life time !!! GO BERNIE !!!!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:35 PM

133. Excellent News - Go Bernie Go

eom

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:37 PM

136. He has my vote. Only Liz W can steal it. n/t

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:38 PM

138. I'm ready, Bernie!

 

Where do I sign up?

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:43 PM

141. Good the more the merrier

Glad that he plans to run as a Democrat instead of a third party spoiler.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #141)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:44 AM

288. In my view, HRC is the Third Party Spoiler. (As in Third Way, NOT a Real Democrat)

 

let's be clear on what a real democratic party actually supposed to be about. HRC does not represent the working class in any way shape or form.

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Response to 2banon (Reply #288)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:46 AM

289. oops posted my knr in the wrong spot.. will correct.

 

Last edited Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to 2banon (Reply #288)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:27 AM

294. Disagree.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:46 PM

142. Good news.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:46 PM

143. What? No. Really?!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:54 PM

151. I hope his logo doesn't incorporate BS or, God forbid, an arrow

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Response to underpants (Reply #151)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:20 AM

322. "BS"

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:03 PM

157. It won't just be 'the liberal wing of the party' who support him, but all fair minded folks. n/t

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:10 PM

158. A lot of people have never heard of him. They need to learn about him and be told.

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Response to glinda (Reply #158)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:58 AM

279. never heard?

 

That's the problem. Most people will learn about him from T.V. and it won't be pretty.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:40 PM

159. Sounds good, and it feels right (nt)

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:49 PM

161. Hillary can have her Scobby Doo Van

 

Bernie should get the Bat Mobile. Run Bernie Run

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:58 PM

163. GO BERNIE!!

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:12 PM

167. I REALLY HOPE SO... AND I Hope He Can Get A Real Movement Going!

This country NEEDS REAL change and his view is THE PEOPLE'S VIEW!

We can't keep supporting those who we KNOW, or at the very least have some knowledge that our only main candidate is closely connected to TPTB. To have only ONE choice seems UN-Democratic in many ways. In a country with at least 300 million people how is it that THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY can only get behind Hillary. I mean it's so hard to imagine that we are so easily swayed to follow behind as if we're following some Pied Piper! Even IF I was a huge supporter of Hillary it would make me uncomfortable that she won't have a challenge.

We're only in the 4th month of 2015 and somehow the candidate has been decided, and I don't like it at all that I might have to vote for her just because the alternative is too devastating for this country!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:13 PM

170. Rock on Bernie!

Hold Hillary's feet to the fire and keep roasting the Wingnuts.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:00 PM

188. I will be delighted!

 






The cheering section!

--imm

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:01 PM

191. YES!!!!

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:06 PM

194. Hell yeah!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:18 PM

222. I'm with Bernie!!

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:19 PM

223. Every time he is on cable news he makes SO MUCH SENSE.

He impresses me with every interview. Hell, he even goes on Fox. He is not afraid to speak his mind. His entry into the primary makes me very happy. If he beats Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire we're in for a bumpy ride.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:50 PM

230. Win Bernie, win.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:17 AM

233. OK, people let's all help each other out on this ...

 

Be sure to publically share all web addresses for the most direct contributions to
Bernie, locations/addresses of phone centers (if any), information centers about his campaign,
Plans for groups to be walking the streets & canvassing neighborhoods, etc etc.
Share on this thread to start, end then many others.

I always said I was going to go full-out if Bernie went for it.
Now that he is ...

Let's do this.


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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:17 AM

234. Someone I can vote for and smile, not vote against the other guy and hold my nose

 

Him, Warren, Grayson, Wyden, Brown, Whitehouse. . .these are all real progressives! Go Bernie Go!!!

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Reply #234)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:18 AM

245. I voted for Wyden before.

But after his push for the TPP? I'm not so sure. He really, really fucked up big on that. I know at least two people back in OR that won't vote for him ever again.

But Sanders for president?

Hell yes.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:15 AM

248. He has my vote!

Bernie is a man of integrity who has consistently told the truth about what is happening in America. He's the only candidate who can reach voters on both the right and the left. He has my vote and my support.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:13 AM

254. The People's Alternative.


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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:53 AM

256. Go Bernie!

He`ll offer up some interesting questions that need to be answered. And, he has a long history of genuine advocacy for all working people and veterans.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:18 AM

257. What I love about this is that Bernie is doing it with the best intentions...

... he knows he doesn't have a chance on the national stage, and he won't run as a spoiler in the General Election so that the same purists who gave us W can give us Jeb.

He's running for the sole purpose of ensuring the Democratic Party of 2016 has the opportunity to debate among itself the virtues of its platforms.

Thank you, Bernie, for always fighting the good fight.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:57 AM

262. K&R for Bernie!

This nation needs you.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:15 AM

263. is his website overwhelmed?!? Or being updated? can't get in...

 

http://www.berniesanders.com/

anyway...

(oops...not his) facebook is available:

https://www.facebook.com/Sanders2016

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #263)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:32 AM

269. I got in easily

and made a teeny contribution....

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:25 AM

266. I'm very picky, and am leaning towards Bernie

$10 ain't much (to me it is), but it's going to Bernie. It's the first money I've contributed since last election, and it's mostly symbolic.

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #266)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:47 AM

300. I am picky too! I am for Hillary!! My Firist money is going to her!!

 



Hillary always been Dem, she has always worked for them,
she Bernie agree almost all the issue.

Bernie has no foreign policy experience, He is a nice man,
and good supporter of the American people like Hillary!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:27 AM

267. here is is twitter link

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:05 AM

270. Woo hoo! nt

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:27 AM

273. This thread has hundreds of recommendations!

Yay, Bernie!

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #273)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:52 AM

277. LOL !!! - I Saw What You Did There...

 





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Response to WillyT (Reply #277)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:58 AM

280. 293 recommendations! That's a lot of enthusiasm for Bernie!

Yay, Bernie!

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #280)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:04 AM

282. "This Thread Should Have Hundreds Of Recs"... Oh Crap... It Does !!!

 




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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:03 AM

281. ki ki ki kickin'!

Go Bernie Go!!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:06 AM

284. Go Bernie!

I am so happy to have someone I can support heart and soul.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:29 AM

286. Good luck, Bernie!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:21 AM

292. K&R This has really brightened my morning! All in for Bernie! nt

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:31 AM

295. Big Big KNR!!

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:34 AM

296. GREAT NEWS! Thanks for posting, and Kick and Rec for Senator Sanders!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:35 AM

297. He said he would let us know by the end of the month, and indeed he did!

As long as Bernie runs on the Democratic ticket, this is nothing but good news for us and our party.

Populism, it's what all the popular Democrats will be wearing in 2016.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:51 AM

302. I'm IN!

YES!

Bernie Sanders for President!!!

& recommend!!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:54 AM

303. Hillary is the left wing of the Party: Bernie agrees with Hillary on most of the issues

 


The GOP would swamp the Dems, if Bernie is the nominee!

He is not even a Dem, they have been to good for him!

But now he wants to join, so he can run for President, I am

going to stick with a reliable Dem Hillary!!

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #303)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:04 PM

313. Hillary 'left wing??? ROFLMAO!!!!!!

 

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #303)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:31 AM

324. Bernie has always voted with the Dems in Congress.

 

I think that Bernie's purpose is to hold Hillary Clinton's feet to the fire. The Left wing of the Dem Party for years has been told to hush up and don't rock the boat too much. On TPP Obama says to trust him, he knows what is good for America. HA! He knows what's good for his bank account.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:47 PM

305. Yay! A real progressive we KNOW WE CAN TRUST!

 

Kick everything for Bernie. Repub sites are like this. They don't want a Bush either, but won't vote for a Clinton, just as it's truly asking way to much for a dem to vote for another Bush. We need an alternative, for everyone to get behind who cares about people in this country!


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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:01 PM

307. And suddenly, people start to learn they have a real alternative to the oligarchy (nt)

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:29 PM

309. I consider myself a moderate

I consider myself a moderate in that I see the value of many of the arguments that come from different points of the political spectrum, and going with that, I think it often possible to strike bargains that do a lot of good, and little harm.

I see Sanders as a moderate, and I think his appeal is that he is a moderate's moderate. He's a politician, and as such he has to satisfy the electorate. I can't really expect anyone better and I'm very pleased to see him in the running.

P.S. Lol, Sanders might be a smidge to the right of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt* in some important ways. I'd prefer their fire breathing in the White House but I find a moderate like Sanders a perfectly acceptable, reasonable, alternative.

*Yes, they were both products of their era. I score them by their successes at transcending that.

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:44 PM

310. ^

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:03 PM

312. wow. Good news! I really want to be able to vote for President in 2016.

 

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:22 PM

315. K&R...Thanks for posting

Bernie will give Hillary a run for her money!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:48 PM

316. I don't recall ever seeing as many recs for a post here on DU

 

as this one has received.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #316)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:04 PM

321. Kinda cool huh?

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:53 PM

320. Yes!!!

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Response to Agschmid (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2015, 07:04 AM

327. Jon Stewart was so dismissive of Bernie's candidacy on the Daily Show last nite.

 


Obviously Stewart is a Clinton supporter in that he made reference to how Hillary was going to crush Bernie. I thought it was so unfair of him. It was truly a let down.

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