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Agschmid

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wow. fantastic. cali Apr 2015 #1
Yes VPR is very reliable. Agschmid Apr 2015 #2
He's a Dem now? Stryder Apr 2015 #212
In VT no one is really registered as either party, they just don't do it. Agschmid Apr 2015 #214
How will the Main Stream Media treat him? olegramps Apr 2015 #283
He's adept at handling the MSM cali Apr 2015 #285
Truly the best handling media. They call him socialist for trying to protect Medicare and Soc. Sec. TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #306
I admire his ability to remain calm and on point, however: olegramps Apr 2015 #326
Oh you can bet your sweet behind FOX will be in full force. YOHABLO Apr 2015 #323
Finally Go Vols Apr 2015 #3
Great man and I wish him the best. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #4
Yes!! G_j Apr 2015 #5
I saw him speak a couple months ago. bunnies Apr 2015 #6
Thank you. K&R Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #7
Good luck Bernie. joshcryer Apr 2015 #8
Good luck to Bernie! Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #9
I knew he would. mmonk Apr 2015 #10
I'm with you nikto Apr 2015 #236
yep it's put up or shut up time... Volaris Apr 2015 #274
see? dpatbrown Apr 2015 #276
If he does, I'm in for him with both feet! nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #11
I'm awfully close to VT... Agschmid Apr 2015 #13
Good luck! And, if you do, please takes pics/video if you can! nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #14
I'm already in BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #16
I'm for Hillary (as our only current candidate) until I have another choice. I... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #20
Fair Enough BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #29
Ignore it, is intended to depress enthusiasm, and it's not true. He will win if we vote for him, sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #31
I'll be happy if his points are heard and he is treated with the respect he has EARNED BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #34
We can make that happen. We made it happen for Obama, remember? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #43
I like it BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #48
I agree, start telling people about him. If everyone who currently supports him can get at least ten sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #57
"He's a socialist!" Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #95
And I will mention that he is a Democratic Socialist RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #98
And I will mention that he is a Democratic Socialist Mnpaul Apr 2015 #144
If we can talk issues, substantively, we win. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #268
Lol, the smear machine is already working overtime, no doubt. The talking points will start to sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #217
Bernie makes me *want* to vote again! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #259
They will make fun of Bernie and paint him as a dangerous radical, but JDPriestly Apr 2015 #123
"paint him as a dangerous radical" Joe Turner Apr 2015 #216
True. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #243
Like I said prior, Bernie makes me *want* to vote again. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #265
no, it wasn't. not at all. it was fiscally conservative and socially liberal cali Apr 2015 #220
That's not what I see from this list. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #244
Yes, Republicans, no not conservative on many,many issues. cali Apr 2015 #260
What's funny .... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #264
So true. I am optimistic. He has a temper when it comes to the issues. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #298
I like temper! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #304
I totally agree with your statement... nikto Apr 2015 #238
+1 daleanime Apr 2015 #74
Bernie, as the only true progressive about to announce getting in the race, will have my vote until a better choice announces his/her intention to run. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #225
That is for sure. n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #228
Hillary is also a true progressive, Bernie agrees with Hillary on almost of the Issues lewebley3 Apr 2015 #299
It's one thing to talk the talk, like Hillary; it's another to walk the walk, like Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #317
I am also a believer nikto Apr 2015 #237
What he stands for is what the American people need to hear. And, if... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #35
Agreed BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #42
The Independent Vote is now the biggest voting demographic in the country, it is over 40%. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #45
We have to make up for all that corporate cash with people power BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #54
They did it in the Philippines. Why can't we? hifiguy Apr 2015 #69
Perfect BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #165
Grassroots ALWAYS defeats corporatism. ALWAYS Very Orange Apr 2015 #116
Will the fact that he's always been an Independent... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #63
That's a good question. I think what will resonate with Independents, left leaning and moderates sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #67
Don't forget liberal Republicans Very Orange Apr 2015 #122
I agree with you, and... renate Apr 2015 #148
You are right. There are still some Liberal Republicans, called Moderates now I believe. I know a sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #227
What is your opinion about that? nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #154
Yes it will. Independents lean toward the Democrat side. hardcover Apr 2015 #231
Yes. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #126
I recall him saying he wasn't going to run unless he thought he could win. Voice for Peace Apr 2015 #93
and I will STILL support the Democrat...not the Independent running.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #105
And he will become one of us on Thursday. Very Orange Apr 2015 #124
that is NOT what I just read... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #127
I don't think you can still be an Independent Very Orange Apr 2015 #130
did it say he was BECOMING a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #137
Keep telling yourself that. smokey nj Apr 2015 #146
I don't have to...I have multiple websites that follow these odds to to tell me so... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #147
She hasn't won a goddamned thing yet. smokey nj Apr 2015 #149
No but she sure as hell is kicking ass and taking names.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #174
Yeah, but he has WEBSITES with ODDS!!! morningfog Apr 2015 #176
I don't, especially with that one. Beating one's head against a brick wall is a much more productive smokey nj Apr 2015 #179
Lol! BeanMusical Apr 2015 #246
Here: morningfog Apr 2015 #173
"according to his associates" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #175
Your denial is painful to watch. Stay tuned. You will finally understand on Thursday. morningfog Apr 2015 #177
Well they say the truth hurts so I am not surprised you are hurting... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #178
If you serisously think Sen. Sanders could even run for the Democratic nomination, morningfog Apr 2015 #182
Yes I DO understand.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #184
From YOUR link: morningfog Apr 2015 #185
from your text... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #186
Alright. Let's try it this way. morningfog Apr 2015 #189
What do you mean "accept it"? I am just stating facts..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #192
Accept that Sen. Sanders is, in fact, running as a Democrat. morningfog Apr 2015 #193
No he has NOT said that....he said he is running in the Democratic Primary.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #199
Hey you~ sheshe2 Apr 2015 #221
I hope you have plenty of Tylenol or Advil. My head smokey nj Apr 2015 #229
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #232
Dear morningfog and Vanilla Rhapsody nikto Apr 2015 #239
+ 1 red dog 1 Apr 2015 #314
As a candidate he will have a stronger impact on that Democratic Field... Agschmid Apr 2015 #198
According to his senior advisor. Quackers Apr 2015 #205
He said he would not run as an independent and be a spoiler like Nader. Don't worry, if he wins, freshwest Apr 2015 #153
difference is....Nader ran as an independent Independent....not an Independent Democrat... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #183
That field is about to change apparently. Agschmid Apr 2015 #200
Tough row to hoe... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #201
Sure and I think Senator Sanders recognizes that... Agschmid Apr 2015 #203
My browser shows a big blank. All I've heard about with names outside their own areas, are H and B. freshwest Apr 2015 #209
John Angelos gives me hope nikto Apr 2015 #240
If he wins the Democratic primary, he'll be the Dem candidate cyberswede Apr 2015 #211
If he wins primary: Dem's will lose the General against the GOP lewebley3 Apr 2015 #301
Hardly. cyberswede Apr 2015 #308
Well, that's not a very smart way to look at things ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #311
"I will support Hillary if she is our nominee" 2banon Apr 2015 #287
Me too. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #120
Ditto to that. RiverNoord Apr 2015 #156
I don't believe in donating money, but I have for Bernie BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #168
Bernie literally has had more media coverage in the last year, face to face, than HRC. I do believe freshwest Apr 2015 #215
I appreciate your answer BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #218
Me too! nt G_j Apr 2015 #19
I am2 840high Apr 2015 #140
F' Yeah!!!! nikto Apr 2015 #235
yay! m-lekktor Apr 2015 #12
Ya Hoo !!!! SamKnause Apr 2015 #15
Great news! JaneyVee Apr 2015 #17
Hotdog ! BlueJazz Apr 2015 #18
oh yea. good to hear. i expected it. glad he got in now. work to be done. i am on board. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #21
Best K&R of the day! bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #22
What?! YES!!!! 1HappyDemocrat Apr 2015 #23
I try :) Agschmid Apr 2015 #26
Welocme to DU!!! gopiscrap Apr 2015 #207
thank you!!! 1HappyDemocrat May 2015 #328
Silly william cail Apr 2015 #261
I'm with Bernie!!!! smokey nj Apr 2015 #24
That's great. I can consider supporting him in the primaries. Xyzse Apr 2015 #25
YAY!!!!! hifiguy Apr 2015 #27
Can I join you guys in there? marym625 Apr 2015 #226
Always room on the good ship Sanders! hifiguy Apr 2015 #241
Go Bernie!!! MissDeeds Apr 2015 #28
I hope it's true, and if it is, I will be willing to work for him as hard as possible. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #30
unimpeachable source- Bob Kinzel at Vermont public radio cali Apr 2015 #47
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #202
Yes, it appears you are right, it's on Reuters and the AP. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #219
It's like waiting for Christmas Scootaloo Apr 2015 #32
Which way to the recruiting office. Sign me up. pa28 Apr 2015 #33
Happy Dance Time! DJ13 Apr 2015 #36
I can't stop staring at your .sig Very Orange Apr 2015 #128
I wish I knew, I just found it in a Google image search of .gifs DJ13 Apr 2015 #169
I think the first thing he should do... kentuck Apr 2015 #37
Word has it that he'll be running as a Democrat. And I agree with you... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #41
Finally. A voice that represents -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2015 #38
let's see how his logo stacks up to Hillary's Enrique Apr 2015 #39
Or... Hissyspit Apr 2015 #49
Yep, it sure did. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #247
He has my vote Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #40
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #44
Good. Hissyspit Apr 2015 #46
I will make it a point to be at the campaign kickoff event. Vinca Apr 2015 #50
You will have to represent for DU's Bernie group! ms liberty Apr 2015 #139
America needs Bernie. LuvNewcastle Apr 2015 #51
WooHoo! Run, Bernie, Run! You've got my vote and my support! 1monster Apr 2015 #52
YEA! truebluegreen Apr 2015 #53
HuffPo Has It Too: WillyT Apr 2015 #55
Good, this will only strengthen Hillary! nt boston bean Apr 2015 #56
Actually it'll greatly weaken Hillary Very Orange Apr 2015 #134
. Agschmid Apr 2015 #204
You are confusing wishful thinking with political analysis. Sanders strengthens Hillary. His attacks stevenleser Apr 2015 #278
Yipee!!! Happy Day appalachiablue Apr 2015 #58
I am glad that he is in the race... CoffeeCat Apr 2015 #59
Best news of the day. Finally, someone who ladjf Apr 2015 #60
EXCELLENT! Buenaventura Apr 2015 #61
Finally, A Socialist!!! NightWatcher Apr 2015 #62
A candidate for the people! polichick Apr 2015 #64
Recommend. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #65
YES! Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #66
I'll vote for him in the primaries and for her in the election. Towlie Apr 2015 #68
He's not electable in the general, but... MaggieD Apr 2015 #70
I believe he is quite electable nt G_j Apr 2015 #72
Ok - you're certainly entitled to your opinion MaggieD Apr 2015 #77
YOU might think so....but the bets are not ON him... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #150
of course it would be you G_j Apr 2015 #171
And why should I? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #172
whatever G_j Apr 2015 #187
is that supposed to hurt my feelings for some reason? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #190
That is your opinion. RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #99
I'd love to see him win MaggieD Apr 2015 #102
He's a Democratic Socialist, NOT a Socialist RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #111
He will be painted as and perceived as a socialist MaggieD Apr 2015 #152
That word isn't as scary as it used to be, especially to young people. Also, unlike the rest of smokey nj Apr 2015 #160
He has to get nominated first MaggieD Apr 2015 #162
Every report states that he's running as a Democrat. Bernie himself has stated he smokey nj Apr 2015 #164
That's good - I saw a post quoting CNN MaggieD Apr 2015 #166
Or the 2nd tazkcmo Apr 2015 #255
they called Obama a socialist and he won G_j Apr 2015 #180
Yeah, but Obama did not call HIMSELF a socialist MaggieD Apr 2015 #181
he will nt G_j Apr 2015 #196
Any Democrat who runs will be painted as a socialist by th RW... cyberswede Apr 2015 #213
Yes, Obama alluded to that in the WH Press Dinner. I don't think he was mocking Bernie, he means it. freshwest Apr 2015 #242
Because of course the republican candidates are so fucking amazing? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #253
Laugh-In's "News of the Future" segment. ieoeja Apr 2015 #290
Should have stayed that way MaggieD Apr 2015 #291
As a Democrat? How does that work if he's not registered as a Democrat? George II Apr 2015 #71
well, for one thing,here in Vermont there is no party registration cali Apr 2015 #75
He can declare as a Democrat at any time MaggieD Apr 2015 #81
He's running in our primaries. THAT puts the question to rest. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #249
Not according to the DNC bylaws MaggieD Apr 2015 #250
Running in our primaries is the same thing as declaring yourself to be a Dem. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #251
Go Bernie Go!!!!!! Initech Apr 2015 #73
Finally! Unknown Beatle Apr 2015 #76
I can't wait for the debates Andy823 Apr 2015 #78
Finally someone I can fully support in the Democratic primary! He has my primary vote. Kip Humphrey Apr 2015 #79
Hooray! Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #80
I just found this on FB... kentuck Apr 2015 #82
+1. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #84
About time... (nt) Jon Ace Apr 2015 #83
Thank you Bernie Ruby the Liberal Apr 2015 #85
Excellent! n/t QC Apr 2015 #86
K&R! Yay, Bernie! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #87
Thou art Freedom! Justice! Wisdom! Peace! ananda Apr 2015 #88
very best dpatbrown Apr 2015 #89
In a real utopia he would be the conservative candidate but I'm happy to support him here. TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #135
There's always that group LWolf Apr 2015 #272
Group????? dpatbrown Apr 2015 #275
I watched his 8-hour filibuster The Blue Flower Apr 2015 #90
He can't win but he can help the GOP! Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #91
How is Bernie running as a Democrat going to help Republicans? smokey nj Apr 2015 #92
It won't. Bernie will be a blessing to informed discussion. That never helps the GOP /nt think Apr 2015 #109
Will he attack the GOP or Hillary? Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #112
Did Hillary attacking Barack Obama help Republicans? smokey nj Apr 2015 #131
good question. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #195
Of course it helped Republicans Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #318
You think Republucans can't come up with attack ads smokey nj Apr 2015 #319
Good point.. Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #325
He will attack the issues... ms liberty Apr 2015 #145
Bernie was attacking the GOP when Hillary was supporting Goldwater and interning for Republicans LittleBlue Apr 2015 #224
Disagree. Agschmid Apr 2015 #206
"I see nothing positive here." Dawgs Apr 2015 #271
Bravo!! K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #94
Yea , Now those here kacekwl Apr 2015 #96
Run Bernie, Run RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #97
I am glad he is running, and as a Democrat dbackjon Apr 2015 #100
Republicans won't vote for Clinton...but they will vote for Senator Sanders TheProgressive Apr 2015 #101
Then why is he an independent philosslayer Apr 2015 #103
I am not sure why this is important... TheProgressive Apr 2015 #104
This is the DemocraticUnderground philosslayer Apr 2015 #110
Well, Senator Sanders would be the candidate that acts and votes like a real democrat TheProgressive Apr 2015 #125
Quite simply there is no party registration in my state cali Apr 2015 #155
Maybe you don't understand how it works MaggieD Apr 2015 #197
And he will. Agschmid Apr 2015 #208
Last I heard he was undecided on that MaggieD Apr 2015 #210
The issue is put to rest if he runs in our primaries. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #252
Why don't you ask Senate Democrats if he's a Democrat? TekGryphon Apr 2015 #258
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #293
It's on Robbins Apr 2015 #106
Cool beans! yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #107
Cool. bigwillq Apr 2015 #108
Oh, good. Now I have a Democrat to vote for. Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #113
Bernie! pa28 Apr 2015 #114
Yay!!! and DU rec mike dub Apr 2015 #115
Thank you, Bernie. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #117
outstanding angrychair Apr 2015 #118
You go Bernie!! totodeinhere Apr 2015 #119
Great news! Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2015 #121
Me too! Go Bernie! AllyCat Apr 2015 #129
Can any of them talk about their voting record with the pride of orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #132
Excellent News - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Apr 2015 #133
He has my vote. Only Liz W can steal it. n/t MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #136
I'm ready, Bernie! LittleBlue Apr 2015 #138
Good the more the merrier Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #141
In my view, HRC is the Third Party Spoiler. (As in Third Way, NOT a Real Democrat) 2banon Apr 2015 #288
oops posted my knr in the wrong spot.. will correct. 2banon Apr 2015 #289
Disagree. Agschmid Apr 2015 #294
Good news. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #142
What? No. Really?! Alkene Apr 2015 #143
I hope his logo doesn't incorporate BS or, God forbid, an arrow underpants Apr 2015 #151
"BS" Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #322
It won't just be 'the liberal wing of the party' who support him, but all fair minded folks. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #157
A lot of people have never heard of him. They need to learn about him and be told. glinda Apr 2015 #158
never heard? dpatbrown Apr 2015 #279
Sounds good, and it feels right (nt) Babel_17 Apr 2015 #159
Hillary can have her Scobby Doo Van Geronimoe Apr 2015 #161
GO BERNIE!! SHRED Apr 2015 #163
I REALLY HOPE SO... AND I Hope He Can Get A Real Movement Going! ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #167
Rock on Bernie! IkeRepublican Apr 2015 #170
I will be delighted! immoderate Apr 2015 #188
YES!!!! gopiscrap Apr 2015 #191
Hell yeah! liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #194
I'm with Bernie!! fbc Apr 2015 #222
Every time he is on cable news he makes SO MUCH SENSE. Chipper Chat Apr 2015 #223
Win Bernie, win. CentralMass Apr 2015 #230
OK, people let's all help each other out on this ... nikto Apr 2015 #233
Someone I can vote for and smile, not vote against the other guy and hold my nose Suji to Seoul Apr 2015 #234
I voted for Wyden before. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #245
He has my vote! Evar Apr 2015 #248
The People's Alternative. marmar Apr 2015 #254
Go Bernie! democrank Apr 2015 #256
What I love about this is that Bernie is doing it with the best intentions... TekGryphon Apr 2015 #257
K&R for Bernie! woo me with science Apr 2015 #262
is his website overwhelmed?!? Or being updated? can't get in... magical thyme Apr 2015 #263
I got in easily fadedrose Apr 2015 #269
I'm very picky, and am leaning towards Bernie fadedrose Apr 2015 #266
I am picky too! I am for Hillary!! My Firist money is going to her!! lewebley3 Apr 2015 #300
here is is twitter link magical thyme Apr 2015 #267
Woo hoo! nt valerief Apr 2015 #270
This thread has hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #273
LOL !!! - I Saw What You Did There... WillyT Apr 2015 #277
293 recommendations! That's a lot of enthusiasm for Bernie! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #280
"This Thread Should Have Hundreds Of Recs"... Oh Crap... It Does !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #282
ki ki ki kickin'! Faux pas Apr 2015 #281
Go Bernie! Paka Apr 2015 #284
Good luck, Bernie! Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #286
K&R This has really brightened my morning! All in for Bernie! nt raouldukelives Apr 2015 #292
Big Big KNR!! 2banon Apr 2015 #295
GREAT NEWS! Thanks for posting, and Kick and Rec for Senator Sanders! emulatorloo Apr 2015 #296
He said he would let us know by the end of the month, and indeed he did! herding cats Apr 2015 #297
I'm IN! CountAllVotes Apr 2015 #302
Hillary is the left wing of the Party: Bernie agrees with Hillary on most of the issues lewebley3 Apr 2015 #303
Hillary 'left wing??? ROFLMAO!!!!!! bowens43 Apr 2015 #313
Bernie has always voted with the Dems in Congress. YOHABLO Apr 2015 #324
Yay! A real progressive we KNOW WE CAN TRUST! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #305
And suddenly, people start to learn they have a real alternative to the oligarchy (nt) Babel_17 Apr 2015 #307
I consider myself a moderate Babel_17 Apr 2015 #309
^ Zorra Apr 2015 #310
wow. Good news! I really want to be able to vote for President in 2016. bowens43 Apr 2015 #312
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Apr 2015 #315
I don't recall ever seeing as many recs for a post here on DU NorthCarolina Apr 2015 #316
Kinda cool huh? Agschmid Apr 2015 #321
Yes!!! U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #320
Jon Stewart was so dismissive of Bernie's candidacy on the Daily Show last nite. YOHABLO May 2015 #327
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. wow. fantastic.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:45 PM
Apr 2015

I got that wrong. I really didn't think he'd end up running. And this must be real considering the source.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. Yes VPR is very reliable.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:46 PM
Apr 2015

It certainly is exciting.

Stryder

(450 posts)
212. He's a Dem now?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:29 PM
Apr 2015

Don't get me wrong. Fanfuckingtastic! (I so seldom use "!&quot
But my understanding is he would have to declare as a Dem.
That said with no diss to HRC, I want to see some CW challenged
within the party. Go Bernie. Hilary, if you can sell me, go for it
but I need to see something more than "Vote Hilary she's not a Republican."
Good reason but not good enough.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
214. In VT no one is really registered as either party, they just don't do it.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:33 PM
Apr 2015

He's made it clear he will run in the Democratic Primary.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
283. How will the Main Stream Media treat him?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:05 AM
Apr 2015

Will they give him fair impartial coverage or brand him as a radical Socialist. We can be best assured how the Conservatives will smear him as a Communist as dreadful as Mao who is going to nationalize corporations, burn churches and indoctrinate the youth in a vile anti-capitalistic, anti-religious anti-democratic liberal philosophy in addition to seizing their cherished guns.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
285. He's adept at handling the MSM
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:24 AM
Apr 2015
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
306. Truly the best handling media. They call him socialist for trying to protect Medicare and Soc. Sec.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:49 PM
Apr 2015

Those ARE social programs. We LIKE them. So we must get over the name calling. He's much stronger than that.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
326. I admire his ability to remain calm and on point, however:
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

The MSM has become nothing more than the bought and paid for mouth piece of the corporate millionaires. They have the ability to either provide concise accurate reporting or sinking anyone at will. Take for example the ACA. Every article that reports a problem with one of the exchanges no matter how insignificant is reported on the Front Page in bold letters. It is my experience with our local newspaper and a couple of others that I read on vacation that vast majority of numerous positive achievements are totally ignored. FOX is a glaring example of unethical reporting, however, the silence of the MSM is in reality even more effective in skewing public opinion.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
323. Oh you can bet your sweet behind FOX will be in full force.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:26 AM
Apr 2015

That Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Maoist. Why he'd turn this country into another Cuba, or Venezuela. This ought to be good. Hillary you are going to get hammered with the truth.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
3. Finally
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:47 PM
Apr 2015
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
4. Great man and I wish him the best.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:47 PM
Apr 2015

G_j

(40,366 posts)
5. Yes!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:47 PM
Apr 2015
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
6. I saw him speak a couple months ago.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:48 PM
Apr 2015

Cant wait to see him again!

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. Thank you. K&R
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:48 PM
Apr 2015

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
8. Good luck Bernie.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:48 PM
Apr 2015
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. Good luck to Bernie!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:49 PM
Apr 2015

I hope he does well.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
10. I knew he would.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:49 PM
Apr 2015

Now or never is here.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
236. I'm with you
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:22 AM
Apr 2015

Volaris

(10,251 posts)
274. yep it's put up or shut up time...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:44 AM
Apr 2015

if nothing else comes of it, the American people will get to see what a real primary fight looks like, in comparison to the clown car show that the GOP will be staging

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
276. see?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:28 AM
Apr 2015

Unfortunately, most people will only see what's on T.V., an onslaught of negative ads from the rich.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
11. If he does, I'm in for him with both feet! nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:50 PM
Apr 2015

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
13. I'm awfully close to VT...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

Love to see some kind of announcement event? It would be cool to attend.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
14. Good luck! And, if you do, please takes pics/video if you can! nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
16. I'm already in
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:54 PM
Apr 2015
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
20. I'm for Hillary (as our only current candidate) until I have another choice. I...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:55 PM
Apr 2015

...hope it's Bernie.

I will support Hillary if she is our nominee.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
29. Fair Enough
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:07 PM
Apr 2015

It's early days yet. I wish we could get rid of the mem that "Bernie can't win" because that's meant to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. The conservative meda and the Democratic Party leaders will blast him no doubt. But that doesn't mean what he stands for can not resonate with voters.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. Ignore it, is intended to depress enthusiasm, and it's not true. He will win if we vote for him,
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:10 PM
Apr 2015

it's that simple.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
34. I'll be happy if his points are heard and he is treated with the respect he has EARNED
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:12 PM
Apr 2015

and DESERVES!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
43. We can make that happen. We made it happen for Obama, remember?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:15 PM
Apr 2015

'Aim for the sky, if you want to hit a tree'!

I am thrilled to hear he is going to run.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
48. I like it
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:19 PM
Apr 2015

I'm going to start telling everyone I know about Bernie. Get them to watch him on youtube. Whatever it takes so they start listening. That's all they have to do because he tells the TRUTH. I think he could be the next Teddy Roosevelt (and that's not a bad way to showcase him).

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
57. I agree, start telling people about him. If everyone who currently supports him can get at least ten
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:28 PM
Apr 2015

other people to support him, and he will need donations, that would be a big help to him.

He does seem to get some media coverage. However there will be smear campaigns to contend with, but I think people are getting really tired about negative campaigns. All it does is show that they candidate isn't confident in their own policies winning an election.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
95. "He's a socialist!"
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:41 PM
Apr 2015

That's what they'll be screaming.

My reply will be:

"About fucking time."

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
98. And I will mention that he is a Democratic Socialist
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

and educate them as to the difference!
About fucking time, indeed!

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
144. And I will mention that he is a Democratic Socialist
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:47 PM
Apr 2015

who shut out the Republicans in his home state. Nada, zip, zilch for the GOP.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
268. If we can talk issues, substantively, we win.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:27 AM
Apr 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
217. Lol, the smear machine is already working overtime, no doubt. The talking points will start to
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:59 PM
Apr 2015

appear before we know it. Their game is up, people are sick of the negative smear campaigns, and now we know a lot more about where they come from.

If they want to spend their Wall St money on that, rather than on pushing their choice of candidate's positives, that's their choice.

We don't have to do that, Bernie's record is better than all the expensive smear campaigns they can buy.

I've already lined up one VOTE FOR BERNIE from someone who never heard of him before, but she is now an enthusiastic supporter.

It was an easy sell.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
259. Bernie makes me *want* to vote again!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:31 AM
Apr 2015

Crucial thing for me.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
123. They will make fun of Bernie and paint him as a dangerous radical, but
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

he expects that. He has a great sense of humor and gets amused when people throw those irrelevant accusations at him.

Vermont used to be a conservative state -- pre-Bernie.

Bernie is pragmatic in a healthy way. That is he has a good balance between idealism and pragmatism. He is not one who is unable to compromise. He will make a great candidate and a great president.

 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
216. "paint him as a dangerous radical"
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:55 PM
Apr 2015

As if starting wars, deregulating wall street, allowing corporations to supercede U.S. law is moderate. I just have to laugh at the labels the media puts on reformists like Bernie who are actually trying to get this country out of the mess the "moderates" put us in. If that is "radical" then I guess I'm a radical supporter.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
243. True.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:08 AM
Apr 2015

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
265. Like I said prior, Bernie makes me *want* to vote again.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:23 AM
Apr 2015
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
220. no, it wasn't. not at all. it was fiscally conservative and socially liberal
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:08 AM
Apr 2015

Lots of anti war republicans. Aiken, Prouty, Stafford (as in Stafford loans), Jeffords, Salmon and many more. And Vermont has been solidly liberal for over 40 years.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
244. That's not what I see from this list.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:11 AM
Apr 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Senators_from_Vermont

Even in the 1930s, Vermont voted Republican. Please look at the list of senators from Vermont.

Very, very conservative even in the 1930s. Republicans.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
260. Yes, Republicans, no not conservative on many,many issues.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:47 AM
Apr 2015

I know the history of my state. Yes, these guys were Republicans. They wouldn't be today

Take George Aiken who famously declared that we should declare victory in Vietnam and get the hell out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Aiken
Senator Stafford:

<snip>

A Northeastern Republican, Stafford was generally considered a liberal, or "Rockefeller" Republican.

Stafford is best remembered for his staunch environmentalism, his work on higher education, and his support, as an elder statesman, for the 2000 Vermont law legalizing civil unions for gay couples.


<snip>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stafford

Vermont has a Progressive tradition going back to before it was a state- outlawed slavery in the Vermont Republic Constitution.

I'm not saying these guys were democrats or liberal on all issues, but they weren't considered conservatives in their day, and by today's repub standards, they'd be considered flaming liberals.



Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
264. What's funny ....
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:20 AM
Apr 2015

Is I've seen some "libertarian" (note quotes) types that have expressed positive things about him. Not sure if that translates into voting for him, but they do think he's genuine.

That's the thing about Bernie, they can throw everything and the kitchen sink at him, but his record, at least from what I know, is spotless. He can deftly side-step those red herrings, and go straight to the issues. And if it's one thing I've learned, if you actually talk about the issues, and I'm talking substantively - no platitudes, then progressives win. If you don't, and you fall into the baiting and trapping caused by the conservative and reactionary establishment, progressives lose.

Give me Bernie any day of the week and twice on election Tuesday!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
298. So true. I am optimistic. He has a temper when it comes to the issues.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:56 AM
Apr 2015

He is smart as a tack (whatever that means but it sounds good at the moment). He is brilliant in other words. And he is so down-to-earth and genuine. He will do well. His opponents will be surprised by him. The media won't know what to do.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
304. I like temper!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:04 PM
Apr 2015

Sometimes, it's warranted!

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
238. I totally agree with your statement...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:26 AM
Apr 2015

"I think he could be the next Teddy Roosevelt (and that's not a bad way to showcase him). "


Bernie!
F' Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
74. +1
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:01 PM
Apr 2015

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,103 posts)
225. Bernie, as the only true progressive about to announce getting in the race, will have my vote until a better choice announces his/her intention to run.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:42 AM
Apr 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
228. That is for sure. n/t
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:45 AM
Apr 2015
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
299. Hillary is also a true progressive, Bernie agrees with Hillary on almost of the Issues
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:43 PM
Apr 2015


That is why he is becoming a Dem!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,103 posts)
317. It's one thing to talk the talk, like Hillary; it's another to walk the walk, like Bernie.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:16 PM
Apr 2015
 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
237. I am also a believer
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:24 AM
Apr 2015

The establishment on both sides hates him, but that is the very reason to elect him, IMO.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
35. What he stands for is what the American people need to hear. And, if...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:12 PM
Apr 2015

...they hear him well, he might just gain their confidence - and their votes!

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
42. Agreed
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:14 PM
Apr 2015

We have to realize the 23%/Tea Party does not need to be catered to. But I know a hell of a lot of independents that might get revved up to vote for him. They are frustrated, tired and feel powerless to change anything. If they would only listen to him, he has so many great ideas.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
45. The Independent Vote is now the biggest voting demographic in the country, it is over 40%.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:19 PM
Apr 2015

Many were registered Dems, who helped get Dems control of everything in 2008.

This could bring them back.

Once news gets out to them, I have a feeling they will be excited.

No one can win without that vote.

And I think Bernie can get it.

He will be fighting huge amounts of money, but I think that may be one of the issues he runs on, the poisonous effects of Corporate money on our electoral system.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
54. We have to make up for all that corporate cash with people power
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:21 PM
Apr 2015

I get frustrated with all the screeching from third wayers on DU about how he is another Nader (in the primary? duh). Perhaps if I step outside it will be better.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
69. They did it in the Philippines. Why can't we?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:55 PM
Apr 2015

I remember those inspiring days in the winter of Raygun





BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
165. Perfect
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:11 PM
Apr 2015

We need to help as much as possible. Bernie is not going to be raising scads of corporate cash, so we need to make sure our people power makes up for it.

 

Very Orange

(31 posts)
116. Grassroots ALWAYS defeats corporatism. ALWAYS
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:22 PM
Apr 2015

and Bernie will be running such an grassroot campaign that will be people-powered.

That's what is very important and Bernie definetely gets it.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
63. Will the fact that he's always been an Independent...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:40 PM
Apr 2015

...resonate with the Independent Vote, even considering he has to run as a Democrat to have a chance?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
67. That's a good question. I think what will resonate with Independents, left leaning and moderates
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

is his message. I'm sure they will start polling Independents to see how they feel.

I would think too that his being an Independent shows a lot of savvy. For one thing, while he caucuses with Democrats, he isn't under the pressure to 'just go along' with the party so they have to WORK to get his vote. He uses that to get things for his own state.

Both parties have to work to get the Independent vote, while taking their base for granted.

So I can't answer your question, but I do think they will be interested in his candidacy.

 

Very Orange

(31 posts)
122. Don't forget liberal Republicans
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:26 PM
Apr 2015

Yes, there are still some, but they are rapidly disappearing in shame of their own party.

Bernie attracts everyone. He has that magnetic personality and understands the 99%.

People will resonate with him, and reject Hillary Clinton as yet another corporatist Democrat that no-one wants for a President.

You guys can see Bernie leading the Party and getting progressives excited, and progessives issues has won in 2014, while Third Wayers lost. It's time to put a progressive program in that will put every progressives on the ballot for every race in the United States.

No more choices of "lesser of the two evils"

renate

(13,776 posts)
148. I agree with you, and...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:52 PM
Apr 2015

Welcome to DU!!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
227. You are right. There are still some Liberal Republicans, called Moderates now I believe. I know a
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:44 AM
Apr 2015

lot of them actually and they are really good people. Angry at their own party they are searching for a way to participate without furthering the madness in their own party.

Bernie is a perfect candidate for them. Not that well know so not tarred with the Right Wing Noise Machine feather yet, though I'm sure it will happen.

AND you are correct about the Mid Terms, which many here don't seem to have followed. Those mid terms show great hope for Democratic Candidates who run on Democratic issues, which Bernie will be doing.

You are correct that Dem Issues won on local ballots across the board. Unlike the Dem Leadership who BLAMED the voters for the losses of Third Way candidates, Bernie no doubt looked at those mid terms and what the people were saying and is now responding to that.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
154. What is your opinion about that? nm
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:35 PM
Apr 2015

hardcover

(255 posts)
231. Yes it will. Independents lean toward the Democrat side.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:57 AM
Apr 2015

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
126. Yes.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:28 PM
Apr 2015
 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
93. I recall him saying he wasn't going to run unless he thought he could win.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:41 PM
Apr 2015

That gives me some confidence that he's been getting a lot
of positive reinforcement.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
105. and I will STILL support the Democrat...not the Independent running....
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:01 PM
Apr 2015

unless he actually becomes a Democrat...he doesn't have a chance at my vote....I vote for the Democrat. Simple as that.

 

Very Orange

(31 posts)
124. And he will become one of us on Thursday.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

Or even that he has formally changed his party affiliation already and has not announced it yet.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
127. that is NOT what I just read...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:28 PM
Apr 2015

he is going to run in the Democratic Primary...didnt say he was becoming one at all..

lets take a look at his odds of winning the Primary shall we?

Oh wow...he improved....his chances now? 0!

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

 

Very Orange

(31 posts)
130. I don't think you can still be an Independent
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:31 PM
Apr 2015

and run in the Democratic primary.

No, he'll turn Democratic on Thursday or he is one already and just haven't announced it yet.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
137. did it say he was BECOMING a Democrat?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:37 PM
Apr 2015

anyone can SAY they are running as a Democrat....Has he officially become one yet?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
146. Keep telling yourself that.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:50 PM
Apr 2015
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
147. I don't have to...I have multiple websites that follow these odds to to tell me so...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:51 PM
Apr 2015

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
149. She hasn't won a goddamned thing yet.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:52 PM
Apr 2015
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
174. No but she sure as hell is kicking ass and taking names....
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:40 PM
Apr 2015
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
176. Yeah, but he has WEBSITES with ODDS!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:41 PM
Apr 2015

How can you even RESPOND to THAT?

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
179. I don't, especially with that one. Beating one's head against a brick wall is a much more productive
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:44 PM
Apr 2015

and less painful endeavor.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
246. Lol!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:48 AM
Apr 2015

Yes, that's such a powerful argument.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
173. Here:
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:40 PM
Apr 2015
One ally — who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss Sanders’s timetable — said the 73-year-old senator is expected to make his intentions known this week and hold a rally in Vermont next month. He plans to run as a Democrat, according to his associates.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-bernie-sanders-to-launch-presidential-bid-on-thursday/2015/04/28/2b2802b8-edf0-11e4-a55f-38924fca94f9_story.html


I know you have had so much trouble understanding this. I hope this helps!
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
175. "according to his associates"
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:41 PM
Apr 2015

you mean like anonymous sources? That is your proof....when I have just shown that he doesn't have to....and he doesn't have to proclaim he is one in Vermont....and unless he says he is NOT an Independent and IS a Democrat...there is no other way for him to actually BE one...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
177. Your denial is painful to watch. Stay tuned. You will finally understand on Thursday.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:42 PM
Apr 2015

Or you will continue with willful ignorance.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
178. Well they say the truth hurts so I am not surprised you are hurting...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:43 PM
Apr 2015

and I am merely pointing out how he isn't a Democrat just because he runs in our Primary. He first has to call himself a Democrat....but THEN he has to beat the field....let me introduce you to the field...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
182. If you serisously think Sen. Sanders could even run for the Democratic nomination,
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:49 PM
Apr 2015

which he will be doing, if he were not a Democrat at the time of his running, you don't understand.

Again, your confusion (on this issue, you are on your own on everything else) should be cleared up by Sen. Sanders on Thursday. Join me in welcoming him to the party. It is going to be a joy to watch him run against Hillary. A true liberal enters the race on Thursday.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
184. Yes I DO understand....
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:51 PM
Apr 2015

read...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/


He CAN run as an Independent in the Democratic Primary....

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
185. From YOUR link:
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:57 PM
Apr 2015

Since you SEEM to APPRECIATE randomize capitalization so MUCH:


"He won't have to sign on to every plank of the Democratic platform in order to get in, but he will have to acknowledge that he is running as a Democrat," Devine said. "I think Bernie will have to do that."


As I have tried and TRIED to tell YOU, but you REMAIN so OBTUSE, he will be running as a fucking DEMOCRAT for the DEMOCRATIC nomination. What the FUCK don't you understand about THAT?
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
186. from your text...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:58 PM
Apr 2015

"he thinks"...some guy...and ..not exactly definitive there is it?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
189. Alright. Let's try it this way.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:00 PM
Apr 2015

When Sen Sanders announces on Thursday that he is running as a Democrat, will you accept it and shut the fuck up?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
192. What do you mean "accept it"? I am just stating facts.....
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:02 PM
Apr 2015

and like I told the others....let me introduce you to the field of long standing Democrats with as much or more potential than Sanders...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
193. Accept that Sen. Sanders is, in fact, running as a Democrat.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:05 PM
Apr 2015

I see that you are already accepting it by pivoting to your book maker. A step at a time, congratulations.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
199. No he has NOT said that....he said he is running in the Democratic Primary....
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:13 PM
Apr 2015

One step at a time?.....

MY gawd...that is like the steps at Chichen Itza at this point!

sheshe2

(83,128 posts)
221. Hey you~
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:17 AM
Apr 2015

On Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:53 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

No he has NOT said that....he said he is running in the Democratic Primary....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6586188

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The reason for the alert is the constant, consistent, always thread bashing for anyone that is not HC. By all means, cheer for your candidate. Make your points. But this is an always with this poster. This may be the wrong way to go about this but I don't know any other way. 16 posts on one thread bashing the reason for the post, Bernie Sanders. This poster does the same thing with O'Malley and Warren. And about half of the posts use the same links.
Yes, I am putting her on ignore. But she is really trying the patience of many people here. Per TOS: Don't do anything else which is similarly disruptive.

Just because it isn't listed here, doesn't mean it's ok. If you post anything which is obviously disruptive, malicious, or repugnant to this community, its members, or its values, you risk being in violation of these Terms of Service.
So why do so many have to put such a disruptive person on ignore?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:12 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are we going to alert FOOLISHLY! for a members party choice that we do not agree with? Holy mother. This is going to be a long haul to 2016. I may need a vacation. Facepalm!
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think this poster's relentless HRC boosterism, to the point of trying to bully the board into accepting "inevitability" and fast forward past the primaries, is lame, to say the least. And monumentally irritating. Personally, I wish they would give it a rest, not for the least reason that this sort of attitude does NOT help Hillary Clinton, who should be able to win a vigorous primary contest IF she is really half as strong a candidate as some of these folks claim.

That said, the post isn't breaking any of the specific list of rules which are the necessarily high par to have a jury hide it. A jury hide is a pretty serious move, only for serious violations. Merely posting something annoying, repetitive, lame, or wrong does not reach that standard. Sorry.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm being asked to hide a post that says that it will be very hard for Bernie Sanders to win the Democratic Primary? Pass. And I like Bernie a lot.
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Holy shit. What a laugh.

I was #1~

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
229. I hope you have plenty of Tylenol or Advil. My head
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:48 AM
Apr 2015

aches just from reading this exchange.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
232. Yup.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:06 AM
Apr 2015
 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
239. Dear morningfog and Vanilla Rhapsody
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:34 AM
Apr 2015

Hey you 2, cut it out!
We're on the same side here. Stop arguing about whether Certs is a breath mint or a candy mint.
Bernie is running! That's what counts.

Please save your fire for the inevitable rightwing/neoliberal/Mcarthyesque attacks to come.
You will need to save all your ammo for the real enemy.

Stop wasting it on each other over stuff that will definitely be resolved, possibly within days.


All supporters of Bernie are going to have to kick endless ass in the coming months, to make this happen.
Don't argue with each other.

Prepare for the fights to come.

red dog 1

(27,575 posts)
314. + 1
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:05 PM
Apr 2015

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
198. As a candidate he will have a stronger impact on that Democratic Field...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:11 PM
Apr 2015

I have no doubt.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
205. According to his senior advisor.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:21 PM
Apr 2015
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vermont-sen-bernie-sanders-announce-2016-presidential-run/story?id=30654408

You will vote for him for President when he wins the primary, right? If not, then some people on here might say you weren't a real Democrat.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
153. He said he would not run as an independent and be a spoiler like Nader. Don't worry, if he wins,
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:04 PM
Apr 2015
he will get the vote of Democrats.

Those who will NOT vote are voting for a RW GOP POTUS:

If Bernie Sanders Runs For President, It Won’t Be as an Independent: “I will not be a spoiler”

Naturally, “Will you run for president in 2016?” was the first question DFA Executive Director Charles Chamberlain asked Sanders. Though not definitive, his answer was enough to leave these activists hopeful.

“I am giving very serious consideration to it, but before you make a decision of that magnitude… you have to make sure that you can do it well,” Sanders said. “So what we are doing is reaching out to folks all over this country trying to determine whether or not we can put the grassroots organization together that we need.”

Sanders knows he will have to rely on grassroots mobilization to have a fighting chance at being elected, because his campaign will take on every monied interest. “If I run, we’ll be taking on the billionaire class,” he said. “That’s Wall Street, the drug companies, the military industrial complex.”

To the dismay some idealists, Sanders rejected the idea of running for president as an independent. “No matter what I do, I will not be a spoiler,” Sanders said. “I will not play that role in helping to elect some right-wing Republican as President of the United States.”

http://inthesetimes.com/article/17572/bernie_sanders_president

to pampango:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6140372#top

If he does not win the nomination, he will have taught many in his race and concede with grace. He campaigned against the GOP in 2014, and the alternative to their ruling was clearly by Democrats. He'll support the nominee of the Democratic Party, that I am sure. Obama said essentially, that a vote for Bernie would be like voting for a third term for him.

This primary is finally going to be interesting for all of us. I predict it will make the rightwing media rave and our side will learn a lot, along with the rest of the nation, to get the job done.

I am interested in all Democratic candidates who have shown a serious interest in becoming POTUS and at his point there is only Hillary and Bernie. He has more media coverage than hers, and is more direct. I see where she is coming from... I can grasp where he is coming from better.

I will be glad with both, they each have lessons for Americans to learn to resist aristocracy and inequality. If Sanders holds firm to equality, particularly of half the population of this planet, which would be the true solution to economic issues, I can see HRC supporters getting behind his candidacy if he wins. And HRC herself will. It's really not about the persons who only have a brief time on the world stage, it's about the ideals and lives beyond the one and it's why I'm PROUD to be a DEMOCRAT.

And likewise, if HRC wins, those who care will vote Democratic. We need at least a generation of forward minded people, not those who have fallen for the Bircher line sold by the Koches, to even BEGIN to undo the damage and the horrors that we have seen.

I'm hoping that the real truth teller (not the CT commerical versions of the truth bringing about a Libertarian nightmare) the man in Baltimore who described the reason for the misery and violence in this country, will offer support to Bernie's candidacy, or influence his friends of means, and the fan base of the various cities, to help:

Orioles COO John Angelos offers eye-opening perspective on Baltimore protests

"My greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state."

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/orioles-john-angelos-baltimore-protests-mlb

to chalmers:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026574923

This is the unifying cry of the American vision. As FDR said:

A liberal is a man who uses his legs and his hands at the behest - at the command - of his head. We build a way of life, not for America alone, but for all mankind.

That kind of 'exceptionalism,' I can get behind. Millions who came here since then came because of that vision. It is a 'work in progress.' And the war that has been declared upon the African American population for centuries will end under principled hands by Democrats. JMHO.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
183. difference is....Nader ran as an independent Independent....not an Independent Democrat...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:50 PM
Apr 2015

but lets just pretend that he wins the Primary....currently Bernie has odds of winning the Primary at 0 and doesn't even register for the General.....Let me introduce you to the field of Democrats...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

and the field...

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016president

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
200. That field is about to change apparently.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:14 PM
Apr 2015
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
201. Tough row to hoe...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:14 PM
Apr 2015

the longest of longshots!

by the way...if you checked it....Bernie is ON the list of Democratic potential candidates...his chances of winning the Primary? 0!

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
203. Sure and I think Senator Sanders recognizes that...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:16 PM
Apr 2015

But I also think he genuinely feels he can impact the national political discussion in a positive way, I tend to agree.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
209. My browser shows a big blank. All I've heard about with names outside their own areas, are H and B.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:24 PM
Apr 2015
The others have not been talking about or organizing state by state as those two have. To me, they are not serious contenders.

Show me another who has gone coast to coast like Sanders or Clinton, then we're talking.


 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
240. John Angelos gives me hope
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:47 AM
Apr 2015

Thanks for sharing that.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
211. If he wins the Democratic primary, he'll be the Dem candidate
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:27 PM
Apr 2015

I realize that's a big "if," but if he wins it, he'll be "the Democrat" running against whoever wins the R primary.

In the primary, there will hopefully be several Democrats from which to choose.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
301. If he wins primary: Dem's will lose the General against the GOP
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:50 PM
Apr 2015

The kind of thinking behind Bernie is the kind of thinking that
put Nadder into the race, and gave us George Bush and
the Irag war!

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
308. Hardly.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:11 PM
Apr 2015

Nader ran IN ADDITION to a Democratic and Republican candidate. If Bernie wins the primary, he will run AS the Democratic candidate.

Sanders has said he won't run as a spoiler.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
311. Well, that's not a very smart way to look at things ...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:55 PM
Apr 2015

... but do as you must.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
287. "I will support Hillary if she is our nominee"
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:35 AM
Apr 2015

' And God Bless America'! MUST be said to demonstrate loyalty and patriotism, lest it should ever come into doubt.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
120. Me too.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:24 PM
Apr 2015
 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
156. Ditto to that.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:50 PM
Apr 2015

First time in my 44 years I've donated to a politician - just did it. Next up - volunteering...

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
168. I don't believe in donating money, but I have for Bernie
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:12 PM
Apr 2015

Signed up to volunteer too. He needs our help!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
215. Bernie literally has had more media coverage in the last year, face to face, than HRC. I do believe
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:44 PM
Apr 2015
in donating money, but I honestly cannot do it this time. Things are getting out of hand now. The COO of the Orioles or his friends might donate money, so may others. He probably supports Bernie. If he supports Hillary, there must be something there not being revealed, at DU.

I don't see Bernie as aggravating any particular group. He's been caucusing with the Democrats for years. He's not all 'independent,' although it's possible Vermonters don't want two Democrats in the Senate, they may want something different.

Good for you to be working in the campaign. Even if he doesn't win the nomination, the American people need the education that only Bernie can give them in plain talking. I see HRC as wanting the same despite the rumor industry on her, which is not effective on those of us who lived in and were politically active (no, not the fabled third wayers) back then to see the reality on the ground.

She has said Democrats are not elected to be the mouthpiece of Wall Street, so she is not all the bogeywimmen she's been made out to be. That is what she was when she entered office. And she's very hard headed and very consistent. SO IS BERNIE!

But she's so hard to understand until she gets angry and really tells the GOP off, which she has done on numerous occassions. Her life and views were shaped in a later era than Bernie and that's the primary difference between them.

He is like people I know, New Deal Democrats whose main purpose is equality under the law, due process, and social conditions to bring that about. Social justice is what is needed, and we cannot be free without it. That requires unity, and we've not had that for much too long in this country.

Um, maybe I should have said this to the person you were replying to but I've got to go and will leave it.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
218. I appreciate your answer
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:02 AM
Apr 2015

I am not anti-Clinton, but I do think that we need strong medicine for this country right now, so Sen Sanders has my support. I don't send money to politicians because I think they should all be on public financing. Plus, I send my money to charities and organizations who could really use it instead. I think the main objection to Sanders the candidate is the false notion that "he can't win" which I hope those who support him can prove is not true. We'll see. I hope he is ready for the MSM long knives.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
19. Me too! nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:54 PM
Apr 2015
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
140. I am2
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:41 PM
Apr 2015
 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
235. F' Yeah!!!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:21 AM
Apr 2015

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
12. yay!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

SamKnause

(13,009 posts)
15. Ya Hoo !!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:52 PM
Apr 2015
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
17. Great news!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:54 PM
Apr 2015
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
18. Hotdog !
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:54 PM
Apr 2015
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. oh yea. good to hear. i expected it. glad he got in now. work to be done. i am on board. nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:56 PM
Apr 2015

bullwinkle428

(20,626 posts)
22. Best K&R of the day!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:57 PM
Apr 2015
 

1HappyDemocrat

(62 posts)
23. What?! YES!!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:58 PM
Apr 2015

I LOVE BERNIE! I would vote for Bernie Sanders above anybody else! He is one of the most outspoken politicians that consistently stands up for the underdog in America. He always speaks with integrity and intelligence. He is one of the few who GETS IT. I pray that his campaign finds the support among the American people that we need to see him into office. This made my day!

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
26. I try :)
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:01 PM
Apr 2015

gopiscrap

(23,662 posts)
207. Welocme to DU!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:24 PM
Apr 2015
 

1HappyDemocrat

(62 posts)
328. thank you!!!
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:48 PM
May 2015

btw I love your quote! that just about sums up America. I posted my first post about a gofundme project I did for college this semester. The first comment? Well it was ugly. I am a single mom whose need was real so the gofundme was a legitimate campaign, but it also served an academic purpose. I came to this forum because my professor recommended it to help gain insight on how people feel towards this issue. The first and only response to my post was, in a nutshell, "you just signed up on here to ask for money, shame on you". My response was, umm, no, I am on here to learn and grow as a Democrat. I posted the post to get feedback. I removed the gofundme link and kept my post hoping that people with genuine thoughts would offer me their insights. Those of you who have been kind to me on here, it is greatly appreciated. Thank you for welcoming me.

 

william cail

(32 posts)
261. Silly
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:56 AM
Apr 2015

Bernie will drop out of the race by January. Due to a lack of funds. The chances of Bernie getting the nomination are the same as Ted Cruz getting the Republican nomination. It will be political suicide if Bernie gets the nomination. I guess some people who post on DU would like to see Walker or another Bush in the White House.

Be Smart
Hilary 2016

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
24. I'm with Bernie!!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:59 PM
Apr 2015

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
25. That's great. I can consider supporting him in the primaries.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:00 PM
Apr 2015

I would not have even bothered if he ran as an Independent.

I must thank him for running as a Democrat, and will probably support him as much as I would O'Malley at this time, since I haven't decided who I will fully go for.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
27. YAY!!!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:05 PM
Apr 2015

marym625

(17,997 posts)
226. Can I join you guys in there?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:43 AM
Apr 2015
<- me
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
241. Always room on the good ship Sanders!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:15 AM
Apr 2015
 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
28. Go Bernie!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:07 PM
Apr 2015

Best news possible!!

K&R


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. I hope it's true, and if it is, I will be willing to work for him as hard as possible.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:08 PM
Apr 2015

Very exciting news!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
47. unimpeachable source- Bob Kinzel at Vermont public radio
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:19 PM
Apr 2015

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
202. Yup.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:15 PM
Apr 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
219. Yes, it appears you are right, it's on Reuters and the AP.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:04 AM
Apr 2015

Now you will have to share your Senator with all of us. I used to envy his constituents. '

Already lined up one vote for him. Someone who didn't know him before, now she does and I have to say, when you stick to the issues it's easy.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
32. It's like waiting for Christmas
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:11 PM
Apr 2015

C'mon Bernie, get out there!

pa28

(6,145 posts)
33. Which way to the recruiting office. Sign me up.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:11 PM
Apr 2015

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
36. Happy Dance Time!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:12 PM
Apr 2015
 

Very Orange

(31 posts)
128. I can't stop staring at your .sig
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:30 PM
Apr 2015

the one on the left - what movie is that from?

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
169. I wish I knew, I just found it in a Google image search of .gifs
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:13 PM
Apr 2015

Sorry!

kentuck

(110,916 posts)
37. I think the first thing he should do...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:13 PM
Apr 2015

...is to make a statement that he is running for all disenchanted voters, Republicans and Democrats alike, to try and clean up this mess that both political Parties have gotten our country into. That is just my opinion. I'm sure many will want him to run as a Democrat, which is what I suppose he will do? However, I think his appeal could be very broad with the political realities as they are.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
41. Word has it that he'll be running as a Democrat. And I agree with you...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:14 PM
Apr 2015

...despite his party affiliation.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
38. Finally. A voice that represents --
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:13 PM
Apr 2015

what I think are the very best ideals of the Party and country. So incredibly happy right now to have someone to vote FOR.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
39. let's see how his logo stacks up to Hillary's
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:13 PM
Apr 2015

he's got his work cut out for him.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
49. Or...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:20 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Hillary's logo set the standard so low... 😊

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
247. Yep, it sure did.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:03 AM
Apr 2015


 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
40. He has my vote
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:13 PM
Apr 2015
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
44. K & R !!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:16 PM
Apr 2015

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
46. Good.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:19 PM
Apr 2015

Vinca

(50,150 posts)
50. I will make it a point to be at the campaign kickoff event.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:20 PM
Apr 2015

ms liberty

(8,438 posts)
139. You will have to represent for DU's Bernie group!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:39 PM
Apr 2015

You might even be able to organize a meet up at it, he's got a lot of support here. I'm in NC so I won't make it, lol! But we'll expect pics!

LuvNewcastle

(16,813 posts)
51. America needs Bernie.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:21 PM
Apr 2015

I hope enough people will see who will move us forward and who will give us the status quo. We need radical change in so many ways, and Bernie Sanders would be the most likely candidate to get things started. He already has my vote and I'll encourage everyone I can to vote for him in the primary.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
52. WooHoo! Run, Bernie, Run! You've got my vote and my support!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:21 PM
Apr 2015
 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
53. YEA!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:21 PM
Apr 2015

boston bean

(36,181 posts)
56. Good, this will only strengthen Hillary! nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:28 PM
Apr 2015
 

Very Orange

(31 posts)
134. Actually it'll greatly weaken Hillary
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:35 PM
Apr 2015

when she is indefensible on her stance with the 1% and Third Way politics.

Bernie will be able to debate Hillary on such issues and hand her ass, because she literally has no defense WRT economics issues and her support of TPP which is 100% indefensible.

So, yeah, I think HRC will lose because of such issues that has hurt the 99%'ers very deeply.

Income inequality is a MAJOR issue and Bernie knows this issue very well. And recent reports shows that Clinton is trying to be the 1% of the 1%. No excuses for that. None.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
204. .
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:18 PM
Apr 2015
Income inequality is a MAJOR issue and Bernie knows this issue very well. And recent reports shows that Clinton is trying to be the 1% of the 1%. No excuses for that. None.


Lol, what is that supposed to mean?
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
278. You are confusing wishful thinking with political analysis. Sanders strengthens Hillary. His attacks
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:58 AM
Apr 2015

will impact on Republicans 100 times more than they impact on Hillary.

And his progressiveness will make Hillary look like a moderate and will help her win swing voters and make it much harder for Republicans to paint her as an extreme Liberal, which is their default strategy against Democrats.

appalachiablue

(40,994 posts)
58. Yipee!!! Happy Day
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:29 PM
Apr 2015

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
59. I am glad that he is in the race...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:30 PM
Apr 2015

I think this is a long-shot. However, so many in our party are very unhappy with Clinton--and also with her
seemingly ending up as our only choice.

I think the more people that jump in the race, the better.

I'd like to see Jim Webb dive in head first.

I support Bernie and I love his passion. He's one of the very few people telling it like it is--when it comes to corporatism, political corruption, the decimation of the middle class and the immorality of war.

Glad to see him in!

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
60. Best news of the day. Finally, someone who
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:31 PM
Apr 2015

is willing to address the needs of Americans. nt

Buenaventura

(364 posts)
61. EXCELLENT!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:35 PM
Apr 2015

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
62. Finally, A Socialist!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:38 PM
Apr 2015

But he's not Kenyan, I don't think.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
64. A candidate for the people!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:43 PM
Apr 2015

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
65. Recommend. nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:46 PM
Apr 2015

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
66. YES!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:50 PM
Apr 2015

Towlie

(5,305 posts)
68. I'll vote for him in the primaries and for her in the election.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
70. He's not electable in the general, but...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:55 PM
Apr 2015

I'm grateful that he will help steer the debate to the left. This is good news!

G_j

(40,366 posts)
72. I believe he is quite electable nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:58 PM
Apr 2015
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
77. Ok - you're certainly entitled to your opinion
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:07 PM
Apr 2015

Mine is that he is going to play the Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton role. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
150. YOU might think so....but the bets are not ON him...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:53 PM
Apr 2015

odds are 0 of winning the primary...
http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016DemNomination

G_j

(40,366 posts)
171. of course it would be you
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:36 PM
Apr 2015

why not go hang out on Hillary thread?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
172. And why should I?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:38 PM
Apr 2015

G_j

(40,366 posts)
187. whatever
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:58 PM
Apr 2015

maybe you'll become the only person I have on ignore..

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
190. is that supposed to hurt my feelings for some reason?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:00 PM
Apr 2015
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
99. That is your opinion.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:52 PM
Apr 2015

In my not so humble opinion, Bernie is the MOST ELECTABLE candidate! He is speaking out on all the issues that concern each and every one of us, and he doesn't only talk the talk, he walks the walk.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
102. I'd love to see him win
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:55 PM
Apr 2015

I just don't think the majority would vote for him. Hell they think Obama is a socialist. There is no way they will vote for a real one. Time will tell.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
111. He's a Democratic Socialist, NOT a Socialist
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:19 PM
Apr 2015

There IS a difference.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
152. He will be painted as and perceived as a socialist
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:55 PM
Apr 2015

That's just a fact. Hell, Obama is a democrat and he is perceived as a socialist by many. The general public doesn't do nuance.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
160. That word isn't as scary as it used to be, especially to young people. Also, unlike the rest of
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:45 PM
Apr 2015

the clowns in the car that is the 2016 Presidential race, Bernie gets out of the bubble and spends time with real people. He knows how to talk to them without being condescending and that goes a long way. My sister who was brain washed by Rush Limbaugh in the 90s likes Bernie Sanders a lot.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
162. He has to get nominated first
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:57 PM
Apr 2015

I don't share your optimism because I don't think anyone who bills themselves as a democratic socialist is going to do well in the early primary states. And he will have to in order to build momentum to get the nomination. I'm also skeptical that he can raise enough money to mount a credible campaign.

If he runs as an independent he is as dead to me as any republican. If he runs as a democratic candidate I wish him well. And if he gets the nomination I will definitely vote for him in the general. He's a good guy.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
164. Every report states that he's running as a Democrat. Bernie himself has stated he
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:06 PM
Apr 2015

doesn't want to be a spoiler. My Republican sister, who likes Bernie and would vote for him, would rather be eaten alive by fire ants than vote for Hillary.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
166. That's good - I saw a post quoting CNN
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:11 PM
Apr 2015

... stating his camp denied that. But it wouldn't be the first time CNN got something wrong.

tazkcmo

(7,280 posts)
255. Or the 2nd
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:21 AM
Apr 2015

or 3rd, 4th and 5th. CNN...what garbage.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
180. they called Obama a socialist and he won
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:45 PM
Apr 2015

Most people won't care about labels, especially once someone hears him talk. He speaks for the American people. You greatly underestimate the enthusiasm he is capable of generating.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
181. Yeah, but Obama did not call HIMSELF a socialist
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:49 PM
Apr 2015

If Bernie runs as a democratic candidate I will support him if he gets nominated. If he doesn't - fuck him. I'm a democrat.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
196. he will nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:07 PM
Apr 2015

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
213. Any Democrat who runs will be painted as a socialist by th RW...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:33 PM
Apr 2015

so that's virtually meaningless. Maybe a real Democratic Socialist will inspire some left-leaning folks who usually sit out to vote this time around.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
242. Yes, Obama alluded to that in the WH Press Dinner. I don't think he was mocking Bernie, he means it.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:42 AM
Apr 2015
Said it'd be his third term.

They will definitely try to paint him that way but there are more people who support Scandinavian style socialism or a New Deal approach, than the media thinks.

The issues that Bernie is big on resonate with most Americans.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
253. Because of course the republican candidates are so fucking amazing?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:52 AM
Apr 2015
 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
290. Laugh-In's "News of the Future" segment.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:50 AM
Apr 2015

"President Ronald Wilson Reagan ..." {laughter}


You may not be old enough to remember this, but the phrase "President Reagan" was an actual punch line.


 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
291. Should have stayed that way
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:00 AM
Apr 2015

George II

(67,782 posts)
71. As a Democrat? How does that work if he's not registered as a Democrat?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:57 PM
Apr 2015
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
75. well, for one thing,here in Vermont there is no party registration
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:02 PM
Apr 2015

I imagine it's as simple as declaring he's running as a dem. Of course I could be wrong

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
81. He can declare as a Democrat at any time
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:11 PM
Apr 2015

If he runs as an independent then he is as dead to me as any republican candidate.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
249. He's running in our primaries. THAT puts the question to rest.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:21 AM
Apr 2015

Bernie's loyalty and motives are not in question.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
250. Not according to the DNC bylaws
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:37 AM
Apr 2015
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
251. Running in our primaries is the same thing as declaring yourself to be a Dem.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:47 AM
Apr 2015

He becomes a Dem simply by doing so.

Why are you so obsessed with getting him to formally SAY he's a Dem when that's now a moot point? Are you going to demand that he apologize for ever being an independent at all?

Bernie's decision to stand in the primaries proves, once and for all, that he'll never go third-party in the fall.

Give it a rest. You have no reason to keep beating this dead horse.

Bernie's campaign is not against the Democratic Party, and can't hurt the party's chances in the fall.

Initech

(99,881 posts)
73. Go Bernie Go!!!!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:58 PM
Apr 2015

Unknown Beatle

(2,671 posts)
76. Finally!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:04 PM
Apr 2015

Someone that I can now fully support. Fantastic news! I don't really know how I feel, but ecstatic comes close to it!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
78. I can't wait for the debates
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:08 PM
Apr 2015

Bernie will make the debates worth watching and will help get the issues that are important out in the open so everyone running can tell us how they will fix the problems we have. Go Bernie!

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
79. Finally someone I can fully support in the Democratic primary! He has my primary vote.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:08 PM
Apr 2015

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
80. Hooray!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:10 PM
Apr 2015

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
84. +1. n/t
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:18 PM
Apr 2015

Jon Ace

(243 posts)
83. About time... (nt)
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:17 PM
Apr 2015

Ruby the Liberal

(26,212 posts)
85. Thank you Bernie
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:18 PM
Apr 2015

QC

(26,371 posts)
86. Excellent! n/t
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
87. K&R! Yay, Bernie!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015

ananda

(28,758 posts)
88. Thou art Freedom! Justice! Wisdom! Peace!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:21 PM
Apr 2015

From The Mask of Anarcy

What art thou, Freedom? O! could slaves
Answer from their living graves
This demand—tyrants would flee
Like a dream’s imagery :

‘Thou are not, as impostors say,
A shadow soon to pass away,
A superstition, and a name
Echoing from the cave of Fame.

‘For the labourer thou art bread,
And a comely table spread
From his daily labour come
In a neat and happy home.

‘Thou art clothes, and fire, and food
For the trampled multitude—
No—in countries that are free
Such starvation cannot be
As in England now we see.

‘To the rich thou art a check,
When his foot is on the neck
Of his victim, thou dost make
That he treads upon a snake.

‘Thou art Justice—ne’er for gold
May thy righteous laws be sold
As laws are in England—thou
Shield’st alike both high and low.

‘Thou art Wisdom—Freemen never
Dream that God will damn for ever
All who think those things untrue
Of which Priests make such ado.

‘Thou art Peace—never by thee
Would blood and treasure wasted be
As tyrants wasted them, when all
Leagued to quench thy flame in Gaul.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
89. very best
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:24 PM
Apr 2015

I wish him well. In an utopia( sounds so funny) he wins. And those of you who are working for him, I hope he would win, not just give Clinton a challenge, BUT it ain't going to happen. Been there too many times, when I was passionate about a certain candidate (starting with McCarthy). I've been a pol. junkie for 50 years(as I'm sure a lot of you have too.). I'm convinced that 80% of the country is clueless to what YOU know is happening in Washington. I'm convinced.

TheKentuckian

(24,904 posts)
135. In a real utopia he would be the conservative candidate but I'm happy to support him here.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:36 PM
Apr 2015

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
272. There's always that group
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:19 AM
Apr 2015

who thinks they need to pee on anyone's happiness that there is a candidate to actually support. Any candidate worth supporting always gets the "he can't win."

And while the probability that he could get the nomination might be low, that's not going to stop me. If I don't enthusiastically and energetically support candidates who will make the differences I want to see when I get the chance, those differences never have a chance. And if those differences never have a chance, I don't have a reason to show up at all.

I'm convinced that the changes I want to see will only have a chance if I, and all those who want those changes, have the courage to act on them, rather than be marginalized and silenced by the "never happen" crew.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
275. Group?????
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:06 AM
Apr 2015

I'm happy that you won't stop. I plan to vote for him too. But if I'm in a group, it's a group of one. Your comment about not showing up at all is the same sentiment that got Nixon elected in 1968. Trust me, I'm not trying to throw water on anybody, only being realistic. I truly hope I'm wrong, but have seen defeat so many times. Imagine how much money would be raised by the rich to defeat Sanders in a general.
LWolf, it will take a lot more than courage.

The Blue Flower

(5,419 posts)
90. I watched his 8-hour filibuster
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:33 PM
Apr 2015

A great man. So glad we get to work for him now.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
91. He can't win but he can help the GOP!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:37 PM
Apr 2015

I see nothing positive here.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
92. How is Bernie running as a Democrat going to help Republicans?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:40 PM
Apr 2015
 

think

(11,641 posts)
109. It won't. Bernie will be a blessing to informed discussion. That never helps the GOP /nt
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:12 PM
Apr 2015

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
112. Will he attack the GOP or Hillary?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:19 PM
Apr 2015

Then we will know.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
131. Did Hillary attacking Barack Obama help Republicans?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:33 PM
Apr 2015

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
195. good question.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:07 PM
Apr 2015

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
318. Of course it helped Republicans
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:13 PM
Apr 2015

Just because he won doesn't me her attack ads didn't hurt him.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
319. You think Republucans can't come up with attack ads
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:20 PM
Apr 2015

on their own? Did you sleep through the 90s?

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
325. Good point..
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

and I see Hillary has come out against TPA and that is from pressure from Dems inspired by Warren and Bernie. Plus Robert Reich wrote a good piece about him being in the race will keep Hillary to the left.

Hey, I am coming around.

ms liberty

(8,438 posts)
145. He will attack the issues...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:48 PM
Apr 2015

He will attack the republicans and their issues, and while he will disagree with Hillary on many issues, he will treat her with civility and respect. You may not know, but I do...I have been watching and listening to him for many years.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
224. Bernie was attacking the GOP when Hillary was supporting Goldwater and interning for Republicans
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:36 AM
Apr 2015

He has attacked the GOP longer and harder than any Democratic candidate in the field. Who has been there to support working class men and women as often as Bernie? He deserves our trust and support

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
206. Disagree.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:23 PM
Apr 2015
 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
271. "I see nothing positive here."
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:11 AM
Apr 2015
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
94. Bravo!! K&R
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:41 PM
Apr 2015

kacekwl

(6,986 posts)
96. Yea , Now those here
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:43 PM
Apr 2015

who support him spread the word and talk Bernie and his positions up to all we know.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
97. Run Bernie, Run
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:46 PM
Apr 2015

He has my support ALL THE WAY!

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
100. I am glad he is running, and as a Democrat
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:53 PM
Apr 2015
 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
101. Republicans won't vote for Clinton...but they will vote for Senator Sanders
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:54 PM
Apr 2015

Republicans already do vote for Sanders in VT.

Want a real Democratic President in 2016? Vote Sanders.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
103. Then why is he an independent
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:56 PM
Apr 2015

And not a Democrat?

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
104. I am not sure why this is important...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 06:59 PM
Apr 2015

What do you mean?

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
110. This is the DemocraticUnderground
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:13 PM
Apr 2015

Not the Independent Underground. We support Democratic candidates for office. Read the charter. Senator Sanders is, quite simply, not a Democrat.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
125. Well, Senator Sanders would be the candidate that acts and votes like a real democrat
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

Even still, my statement that republicans will not vote for Clinton but would vote for Sanders remains true...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
155. Quite simply there is no party registration in my state
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:44 PM
Apr 2015
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
197. Maybe you don't understand how it works
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:10 PM
Apr 2015

Whether a state has party registration or not, a candidate has to declare as a Democrat to run in the democratic presidential party.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
208. And he will.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:24 PM
Apr 2015

He's said this multiple times.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
210. Last I heard he was undecided on that
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:26 PM
Apr 2015

I hope he does. I would welcome him with open arms. I love all democrats. Especially liberal democrats.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
252. The issue is put to rest if he runs in our primaries.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:50 AM
Apr 2015

You're acting like Bernie's a heretic and you're the Inquisition.

I've proven you have no reason to belabor this tiny technicality.

A candidate in the Democratic primaries IS a Democrat. Case closed.

TekGryphon

(430 posts)
258. Why don't you ask Senate Democrats if he's a Democrat?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:28 AM
Apr 2015

After-all, they're the ones who have given him the ranking Democratic seat of the Senate Budget Committee.

If they consider him enough of a Democrat to allow him to represent them in one of the most important committees in the Senate, maybe you could consider him one, too?

I understand your fears that he might run as an Independent and act as a spoiler, much in the way Nader gave us W, but that's not what Bernie's about. He understands his electorate, understands people in general, and he's not going to run for his own vanity just so that purists can ensure the Democratic candidate loses.

He is running for the sole purpose of ensuring the Democratic Party of 2016 has the opportunity to debate among itself the virtues of its platforms.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
293. Yup.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:25 AM
Apr 2015

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
106. It's on
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:10 PM
Apr 2015

the fight for democratic nomination as well surivial of social safety net and middle class.

Isn't it ironic the first one ready to fight hillary for the democratic nomination is untill thursday technically an independent.

Bernie has history of standing up against free trade deals.And for protecting ss,medicare,and medicaid.

Wall street doesn't own him.

he and elizabeth warren are two who talk the real issues.

yuiyoshida

(41,736 posts)
107. Cool beans!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
108. Cool.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015
K and R

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
113. Oh, good. Now I have a Democrat to vote for.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:20 PM
Apr 2015

pa28

(6,145 posts)
114. Bernie!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:21 PM
Apr 2015

mike dub

(541 posts)
115. Yay!!! and DU rec
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:21 PM
Apr 2015

I just went onto his website and donated 45 bucks!
Run Bernie, Run!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
117. Thank you, Bernie.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:22 PM
Apr 2015

Let the race begin, and may the best candidate win.

angrychair

(8,536 posts)
118. outstanding
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:23 PM
Apr 2015

Excited...wonderful...awesome

totodeinhere

(13,028 posts)
119. You go Bernie!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:23 PM
Apr 2015

I hope that the admins at DU will allow him to have a fair shake. It's obvious that Skinner is in the tank for Clinton. I hope that he allows us to start up a Bernie group.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
121. Great news!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:25 PM
Apr 2015

I remember voting enthusiastically for Bill Clinton the first time around, but in my lifetime Bernie is the best candidate I've experienced. Never have disagreed with one single thing he's said, he's truthful and carries absolutely no baggage. "Socialist" is just a label (and not a bad one at that), but his votes and actions are what count and what should get him nominated and elected. A champion is what we need, and we have that in Bernie. I love the enthusiasm in this thread and others - now we have to pony up support by way of time and money.



AllyCat

(15,987 posts)
129. Me too! Go Bernie!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:31 PM
Apr 2015
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
132. Can any of them talk about their voting record with the pride of
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:34 PM
Apr 2015

this man ???? We've got a shot of avoiding NWO in our life time !!! GO BERNIE !!!!!

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
133. Excellent News - Go Bernie Go
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:35 PM
Apr 2015

eom

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
136. He has my vote. Only Liz W can steal it. n/t
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:37 PM
Apr 2015
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
138. I'm ready, Bernie!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:38 PM
Apr 2015

Where do I sign up?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(106,789 posts)
141. Good the more the merrier
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:43 PM
Apr 2015

Glad that he plans to run as a Democrat instead of a third party spoiler.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
288. In my view, HRC is the Third Party Spoiler. (As in Third Way, NOT a Real Democrat)
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:44 AM
Apr 2015

let's be clear on what a real democratic party actually supposed to be about. HRC does not represent the working class in any way shape or form.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
289. oops posted my knr in the wrong spot.. will correct.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:46 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
294. Disagree.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:27 AM
Apr 2015

mountain grammy

(26,552 posts)
142. Good news.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:46 PM
Apr 2015

Alkene

(752 posts)
143. What? No. Really?!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:46 PM
Apr 2015

underpants

(182,064 posts)
151. I hope his logo doesn't incorporate BS or, God forbid, an arrow
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:54 PM
Apr 2015

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
322. "BS"
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 01:20 AM
Apr 2015

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
157. It won't just be 'the liberal wing of the party' who support him, but all fair minded folks. n/t
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:03 PM
Apr 2015

glinda

(14,807 posts)
158. A lot of people have never heard of him. They need to learn about him and be told.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:10 PM
Apr 2015
 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
279. never heard?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:58 AM
Apr 2015

That's the problem. Most people will learn about him from T.V. and it won't be pretty.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
159. Sounds good, and it feels right (nt)
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:40 PM
Apr 2015
 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
161. Hillary can have her Scobby Doo Van
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:49 PM
Apr 2015

Bernie should get the Bat Mobile. Run Bernie Run

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
163. GO BERNIE!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:58 PM
Apr 2015

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
167. I REALLY HOPE SO... AND I Hope He Can Get A Real Movement Going!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:12 PM
Apr 2015

This country NEEDS REAL change and his view is THE PEOPLE'S VIEW!

We can't keep supporting those who we KNOW, or at the very least have some knowledge that our only main candidate is closely connected to TPTB. To have only ONE choice seems UN-Democratic in many ways. In a country with at least 300 million people how is it that THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY can only get behind Hillary. I mean it's so hard to imagine that we are so easily swayed to follow behind as if we're following some Pied Piper! Even IF I was a huge supporter of Hillary it would make me uncomfortable that she won't have a challenge.

We're only in the 4th month of 2015 and somehow the candidate has been decided, and I don't like it at all that I might have to vote for her just because the alternative is too devastating for this country!

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
170. Rock on Bernie!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:13 PM
Apr 2015

Hold Hillary's feet to the fire and keep roasting the Wingnuts.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
188. I will be delighted!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:00 PM
Apr 2015





The cheering section!

--imm

gopiscrap

(23,662 posts)
191. YES!!!!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:01 PM
Apr 2015

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
194. Hell yeah!
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:06 PM
Apr 2015
 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
222. I'm with Bernie!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:18 AM
Apr 2015

Chipper Chat

(9,619 posts)
223. Every time he is on cable news he makes SO MUCH SENSE.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:19 AM
Apr 2015

He impresses me with every interview. Hell, he even goes on Fox. He is not afraid to speak his mind. His entry into the primary makes me very happy. If he beats Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire we're in for a bumpy ride.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
230. Win Bernie, win.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:50 AM
Apr 2015
 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
233. OK, people let's all help each other out on this ...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:17 AM
Apr 2015

Be sure to publically share all web addresses for the most direct contributions to
Bernie, locations/addresses of phone centers (if any), information centers about his campaign,
Plans for groups to be walking the streets & canvassing neighborhoods, etc etc.
Share on this thread to start, end then many others.

I always said I was going to go full-out if Bernie went for it.
Now that he is ...

Let's do this.


 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
234. Someone I can vote for and smile, not vote against the other guy and hold my nose
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:17 AM
Apr 2015

Him, Warren, Grayson, Wyden, Brown, Whitehouse. . .these are all real progressives! Go Bernie Go!!!

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
245. I voted for Wyden before.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:18 AM
Apr 2015

But after his push for the TPP? I'm not so sure. He really, really fucked up big on that. I know at least two people back in OR that won't vote for him ever again.

But Sanders for president?

Hell yes.

Evar

(44 posts)
248. He has my vote!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:15 AM
Apr 2015

Bernie is a man of integrity who has consistently told the truth about what is happening in America. He's the only candidate who can reach voters on both the right and the left. He has my vote and my support.

marmar

(76,945 posts)
254. The People's Alternative.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:13 AM
Apr 2015

democrank

(11,032 posts)
256. Go Bernie!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:53 AM
Apr 2015

He`ll offer up some interesting questions that need to be answered. And, he has a long history of genuine advocacy for all working people and veterans.

TekGryphon

(430 posts)
257. What I love about this is that Bernie is doing it with the best intentions...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:18 AM
Apr 2015

... he knows he doesn't have a chance on the national stage, and he won't run as a spoiler in the General Election so that the same purists who gave us W can give us Jeb.

He's running for the sole purpose of ensuring the Democratic Party of 2016 has the opportunity to debate among itself the virtues of its platforms.

Thank you, Bernie, for always fighting the good fight.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
262. K&R for Bernie!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:57 AM
Apr 2015

This nation needs you.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
263. is his website overwhelmed?!? Or being updated? can't get in...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:15 AM
Apr 2015
http://www.berniesanders.com/

anyway...

(oops...not his) facebook is available:

https://www.facebook.com/Sanders2016

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
269. I got in easily
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:32 AM
Apr 2015

and made a teeny contribution....

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
266. I'm very picky, and am leaning towards Bernie
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:25 AM
Apr 2015

$10 ain't much (to me it is), but it's going to Bernie. It's the first money I've contributed since last election, and it's mostly symbolic.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
300. I am picky too! I am for Hillary!! My Firist money is going to her!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:47 PM
Apr 2015


Hillary always been Dem, she has always worked for them,
she Bernie agree almost all the issue.

Bernie has no foreign policy experience, He is a nice man,
and good supporter of the American people like Hillary!!
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
267. here is is twitter link
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:27 AM
Apr 2015

valerief

(53,235 posts)
270. Woo hoo! nt
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:05 AM
Apr 2015

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
273. This thread has hundreds of recommendations!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:27 AM
Apr 2015

Yay, Bernie!

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
277. LOL !!! - I Saw What You Did There...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:52 AM
Apr 2015




Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
280. 293 recommendations! That's a lot of enthusiasm for Bernie!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:58 AM
Apr 2015
Yay, Bernie!
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
282. "This Thread Should Have Hundreds Of Recs"... Oh Crap... It Does !!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:04 AM
Apr 2015



Faux pas

(14,562 posts)
281. ki ki ki kickin'!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

Go Bernie Go!!!

Paka

(2,760 posts)
284. Go Bernie!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:06 AM
Apr 2015

I am so happy to have someone I can support heart and soul.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
286. Good luck, Bernie!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:29 AM
Apr 2015

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
292. K&R This has really brightened my morning! All in for Bernie! nt
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:21 AM
Apr 2015
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
295. Big Big KNR!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:31 AM
Apr 2015

emulatorloo

(43,922 posts)
296. GREAT NEWS! Thanks for posting, and Kick and Rec for Senator Sanders!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:34 AM
Apr 2015

herding cats

(19,545 posts)
297. He said he would let us know by the end of the month, and indeed he did!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:35 AM
Apr 2015

As long as Bernie runs on the Democratic ticket, this is nothing but good news for us and our party.

Populism, it's what all the popular Democrats will be wearing in 2016.

CountAllVotes

(20,849 posts)
302. I'm IN!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:51 PM
Apr 2015
YES!

Bernie Sanders for President!!!

& recommend!!!

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
303. Hillary is the left wing of the Party: Bernie agrees with Hillary on most of the issues
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:54 PM
Apr 2015

The GOP would swamp the Dems, if Bernie is the nominee!

He is not even a Dem, they have been to good for him!

But now he wants to join, so he can run for President, I am

going to stick with a reliable Dem Hillary!!
 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
313. Hillary 'left wing??? ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:04 PM
Apr 2015
 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
324. Bernie has always voted with the Dems in Congress.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:31 AM
Apr 2015

I think that Bernie's purpose is to hold Hillary Clinton's feet to the fire. The Left wing of the Dem Party for years has been told to hush up and don't rock the boat too much. On TPP Obama says to trust him, he knows what is good for America. HA! He knows what's good for his bank account.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
305. Yay! A real progressive we KNOW WE CAN TRUST!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:47 PM
Apr 2015

Kick everything for Bernie. Repub sites are like this. They don't want a Bush either, but won't vote for a Clinton, just as it's truly asking way to much for a dem to vote for another Bush. We need an alternative, for everyone to get behind who cares about people in this country!


Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
307. And suddenly, people start to learn they have a real alternative to the oligarchy (nt)
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:01 PM
Apr 2015

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
309. I consider myself a moderate
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:29 PM
Apr 2015

I consider myself a moderate in that I see the value of many of the arguments that come from different points of the political spectrum, and going with that, I think it often possible to strike bargains that do a lot of good, and little harm.

I see Sanders as a moderate, and I think his appeal is that he is a moderate's moderate. He's a politician, and as such he has to satisfy the electorate. I can't really expect anyone better and I'm very pleased to see him in the running.

P.S. Lol, Sanders might be a smidge to the right of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt* in some important ways. I'd prefer their fire breathing in the White House but I find a moderate like Sanders a perfectly acceptable, reasonable, alternative.

*Yes, they were both products of their era. I score them by their successes at transcending that.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
310. ^
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:44 PM
Apr 2015
 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
312. wow. Good news! I really want to be able to vote for President in 2016.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:03 PM
Apr 2015

red dog 1

(27,575 posts)
315. K&R...Thanks for posting
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:22 PM
Apr 2015

Bernie will give Hillary a run for her money!

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
316. I don't recall ever seeing as many recs for a post here on DU
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:48 PM
Apr 2015

as this one has received.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
321. Kinda cool huh?
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:04 AM
Apr 2015

U4ikLefty

(4,012 posts)
320. Yes!!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:53 PM
Apr 2015
 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
327. Jon Stewart was so dismissive of Bernie's candidacy on the Daily Show last nite.
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:04 AM
May 2015

Obviously Stewart is a Clinton supporter in that he made reference to how Hillary was going to crush Bernie. I thought it was so unfair of him. It was truly a let down.
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