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Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:52 PM

 

Bernie Sanders makes me *want* to vote again!

I saw this as a response, but it's so spot on, it should be read by all here!

He makes me want to vote again too!

Kick all things for Bernie. Voters WILL NOW ENGAGE! Finally, someone to vote for. Not hold your nose or stay home. It's happy civics time in America once again now folks!

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Reply Bernie Sanders makes me *want* to vote again! (Original post)
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 OP
bigwillq Apr 2015 #1
darkangel218 Apr 2015 #3
bigwillq Apr 2015 #4
darkangel218 Apr 2015 #5
bigwillq Apr 2015 #6
ananda Apr 2015 #8
liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #12
darkangel218 Apr 2015 #16
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #22
bigwillq Apr 2015 #21
MissDeeds Apr 2015 #25
kath Apr 2015 #35
City Lights Apr 2015 #57
liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #2
lewebley3 Apr 2015 #7
ananda Apr 2015 #9
lewebley3 Apr 2015 #34
bunnies Apr 2015 #37
Raine1967 Apr 2015 #65
liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #10
Iggo Apr 2015 #19
corkhead Apr 2015 #11
LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #13
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #20
hootinholler Apr 2015 #28
groundloop Apr 2015 #30
jeff47 Apr 2015 #43
lewebley3 Apr 2015 #52
jeff47 Apr 2015 #53
lewebley3 Apr 2015 #61
Iggo Apr 2015 #67
G_j Apr 2015 #14
BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #15
Hiraeth Apr 2015 #17
Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #31
JI7 Apr 2015 #18
99Forever Apr 2015 #23
Maedhros Apr 2015 #24
groundloop Apr 2015 #29
Maedhros Apr 2015 #41
Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #46
Maedhros Apr 2015 #55
A Simple Game Apr 2015 #68
Maedhros Apr 2015 #70
MissDeeds Apr 2015 #26
djean111 Apr 2015 #27
TheProgressive Apr 2015 #32
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #39
LittleBlue Apr 2015 #33
lewebley3 Apr 2015 #36
cali Apr 2015 #38
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #40
Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #56
jeff47 Apr 2015 #45
Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #48
jeff47 Apr 2015 #49
Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #51
Dragonfli Apr 2015 #73
Alkene Apr 2015 #42
Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #44
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #47
Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #50
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #74
Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #78
PeteSelman Apr 2015 #54
Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #58
PeteSelman Apr 2015 #60
Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #59
Gamecock Lefty Apr 2015 #62
cyberswede Apr 2015 #63
Pharaoh Apr 2015 #64
Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #66
Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #76
MisterP Apr 2015 #77
hifiguy Apr 2015 #69
Orsino Apr 2015 #71
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #72
Quackers Apr 2015 #75
Fumesucker Apr 2015 #79
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #81
Enthusiast Apr 2015 #80
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #82
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #83
TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #84
TheNutcracker May 2015 #85

Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:55 PM

1. I am def more excited now that it seems like Bernie will enter race.

 

He is a candidate I can get behind.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:58 PM

3. Hillary has very lil chance to win the primaries, now that Bernie is in

 

Go Bernie!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:00 PM

4. Not so sure about that

 

but I am def more excited about Bernie than I am about Hillary.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:01 PM

5. I am pretty sure. Once the debates start, she is done.

 

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:02 PM

6. Hopefully.

 

We will find out.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:03 PM

8. I think he's already moving Clinton to the left.

Sanders will always be my first choice, but even if
Clinton gets the nomination, he will have been a
strong influence.

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Response to ananda (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:07 PM

12. I don't trust that she will actually move to the left. She will say she is. She will say

everything we want to hear, but when in office she is likely to govern from the center right especially economically and militarily.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:10 PM

16. +1

 

Exactly right.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:15 PM

22. +2

 

Yup!

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:14 PM

21. Yup

 

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:22 PM

25. Agreed

 

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:45 PM

35. yeah, that routine sure sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Sigh.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:07 PM

57. Yup. That's how I see it, too. nt

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:58 PM

2. I am glad he is entering the race. I just can't hold my nose and vote anymore.

If Bernie didn't enter the race, I would have either voted third party or stayed home. I am excited to have someone to vote for again too.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:02 PM

7. Bernie Sanders, is another Micheal Dukis: Dems will lose to the GOP!!

 




Bernie Sanders, is like the Raplh Nadder, he will cause the GOP to win!!

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:04 PM

9. No he won't!

Sanders is running as a Democrat!

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Response to ananda (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:42 PM

34. He is a not Dem: Bernie not has worked to build the Dem Party!!

 

Why should he be able to use the Dem's for his bid: he is much to
snobby until now to join.


Dems have worked hard to make the Dem Party what it is today: they are the
party Bernie and his followers dis.

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:51 PM

37. Everyone watch your step! Theres a steaming pile of dog shit right here.

 

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Response to bunnies (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:49 PM

65. You smell it too? nt

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:05 PM

10. going on the ignore list.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:13 PM

19. Yeah, but just on the ignore mail list.

I like to follow the flameouts.

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:06 PM

11. I have never had a post hidden so I won't say what I want to say to you in response to your post

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:08 PM

13. That bastard, Raplh Nadder!

And Micheal Dukis too!

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Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:30 PM

28. Good one!

Tell me another joke



In other words, Bernie is NO Dukis (sic)

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:38 PM

30. Bernie is running as a Democrat, not Independent


Bernie has already said that he doesn't want to be the one who helps put a Bush or Walker in the White House, that's why he's running as a Democrat and not an Independent. If he doesn't get the nomination I'm quite sure he'll endorse whoever our nominee happens to be.

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:27 PM

43. We'd better listen to Lewebley3. Political analysis so good they can't spell Ralph Nader

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #43)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:51 PM

52. You understood whom I was talking about: wrong spelling or not!!

 



Message was clear, that is why you responded.

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #52)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:57 PM

53. Yes, and your inability to spell means your analysis is garbage

without even bothering to think about it. Thanks for that handy shortcut.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:28 PM

61. That is just your opinion, You spelled everything right, but still have garbage analysis!!

 




This subject makes you a small thinker!!

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:04 PM

67. Yeah, well, you know...

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:08 PM

14. K&R!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:09 PM

15. Senator Sanders matches my values

Here is a link to his speech to the House on the vote for the Iraq War. If this doesn't show you that he is a person who will stand up for what is right and not be swayed by political expediency, there are a lot more to show. Then Rep. Sanders not only says the war is based on shaky intelligence (at best) but points out that we need to put our efforts toward helping people at home. This is a candidate I can give my full-throated support.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war

Sound is low but transcript follows. Go Bernie.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:12 PM

17. To me, Hillary is a politician but, Bernie is a true statesman. That is the essential difference.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:38 PM

31. Very well said.

And welcome to DU, Hiraeth!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:13 PM

18. that's nice but there are many who feel the same about Hillary

And others.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:18 PM

23. Yup

Time to give the corporatists a lesson in democracy.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:19 PM

24. If Bernie wins the nomination, I can actually vote Democratic in the general.

 

That would be awesome!

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:34 PM

29. Sorry, but I'll definitely vote Democratic in the general election regardless


I'll be supporting Bernie Sanders in the primary, but I'm enthusiastically voting for whomever the Democratic nominee is in November. Anything less will be inviting another Bush into the White House.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #29)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:02 PM

41. Do as you feel you should.

 

I will vote for the politician who most closely represents my views. If that's a Democrat, then great. If not, I'm okay with that.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #41)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:34 PM

46. Me too!

I'm not going to be shamed into voting for another corporate democrat.

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #46)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:05 PM

55. I feel no loyalty to a Party that has repeatedly kicked me in the teeth (metaphorically),

 

then told me to sit down and STFU, then expects my vote anyway.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #55)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:15 PM

68. Your attitude, which matches mine, is the exact reason why

Bernie will win the primaries and the General. Unaffiliated is now the largest "party." There is a reason for that and Bernie, or Warren if she were to run, are the solution to that problem.

I live in New York and if necessary will register as a Democrat again instead of unaffiliated to vote in the primaries.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #68)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:28 PM

70. I'll do whatever it takes to get Bernie the nomination. [n/t]

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:26 PM

26. Beautifully said

 

K&R

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:27 PM

27. Told my 20 year old Reddit-based grandson that Bernie was going to run - response was YES!

 

We both will be voting for Bernie.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:38 PM

32. For me, it is finally voting 100% for somebody I want to win...

 

...instead of voting for the 'lesser of two evils'.

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Response to TheProgressive (Reply #32)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:59 PM

39. EXACTLY! Someone you WANT to vote for for sure!!

 

Yay......

Thanks Bernie for standing up....bigger than ever!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:39 PM

33. Same here. With Bernie the process of voting doesn't seem like futility

 

It's like having a real choice for the first time. No longer a contest about deciding who is the lesser evil and holding my nose.

We need Bernie

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #33)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:46 PM

36. Hillary is not an evil: She is hard working loyal Dem: Which Bernie is not!!

 


He just joining the Dems to get elected, he was an independent, when the hard work was being done to reubuld the Democratic party!!

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:59 PM

38. "the lesser of two evils" is simply a phrase denoting a lack of choice

 

He's a liberal. He has a much longer and better liberal record than she does. He doesn't need to join the dems to get elected. He's a U.S. Senator, remember? He's running in the dem primary to get his vital and much needed message out there. It's nice that HRC is now speaking up on issues that Bernie has been championing for decades- for instance, police brutality, judicial and prison reform- but many of us don't trust her new found progressive economic stances. There is no ambiguity in Bernie's record or rhetoric.

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Response to cali (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:00 PM

40. Very true. His record mirrors my values as a democrat!

 

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Response to cali (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:06 PM

56. Her new stances feel very focus group tested. You don't get a weather vane in Bernie like you do

in nearly all other candidates/politicians.

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:30 PM

45. So, you get paid per post or is it a bulk deal? (nt)

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #45)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:38 PM

48. I hope neither ...

His posts are not worth it.

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #48)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:43 PM

49. Shhh....I wanna get in on the deal.

It would be easy to write a bot to make posts that bad. And then, ka-ching!

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #49)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:46 PM

51. Mum's the word.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #49)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:42 PM

73. To be honest, a bot written even moderately well would post such nonsense far more effectively

I'd say your bot could ask for twice the wage.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:20 PM

42. Me too: “Bernie makes me *want* to vote!”

Last edited Thu Apr 30, 2015, 01:03 AM - Edit history (2)

And it has been a long time, a very long time.

My first presidential election was special, as it should be, but all the more so due to the recent change in voting age: it had only been a little over five years since the twenty-sixth amendment to the constitution came into effect- the right to vote at age eighteen; at nineteen years of age I was old enough to kill and die in wars for the United States government, but unlike many older brothers and sisters when they were of similar age I also held the civic right to vote. I regarded that right as a gift granted through the activism of the 1960’s, and consequently considered my choice for president carefully and with respect for the opportunity. I naturally expected myself to convince others of the wisdom my candidate, and was baffled by the opposition’s inability to be persuaded by my passion- which was ultimately validated by electoral victory.
On January 20th, 1977, James Earl "Jimmy" Carter, Jr. became the 39th President of the United States. I had no way of knowing at that time that he would be the last Democratic presidential candidate in the general election for whom I would hold unequivocal support.

In the ten election cycles which have unfolded since the first Apple II computers went on sale and Seattle Slew won the Triple Crown, I have vigorously and vociferously supported various candidates in presidential primaries, only to settle for the Democratic Party candidate in the general election- occasionally to the point of the “evil of two lessors,” as the cliche goes. I eventually became jaundiced to the routine of such concessions, and began the habit of voting my conscience- basing my choice on the policies, political positions and job performance of ALL the candidates running in the general election.
As time and circumstances have worn me down, the failures of candidates I had held in esteem to win the highest office in the land or even sway the national discourse, and my own failure to persuade others to share my values, I have lost the motivation to engage others politically. I eventually lost my youthful narcissism, and developed the maturity- however overdue- to realize that anyone of political persuasion holds their beliefs with the same adamant conviction as myself, reducing political discourse to a pointless exercise in ego externalization.
Similarly, I no longer desire or require external validation for opinions, positions or allegiances that I hold; my life is my own and I am no longer burdened with the need for approbation.

I have recently been given a reason to support a presidential candidate who manifests the values and convictions which I share- without equivocation; one who demonstrates a history of working for agendas from which I can directly benefit. Am I to abandon this opportunity based on a cynical calculation of viability or be dissuaded by the contumelies of others?

I don’t think so, not when, “Bernie makes me *want* to vote!”

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:29 PM

44. It was my response!

Thank you for sharing it! I'm glad others feel the way I do. It's humbling that you thought enough to share it! A great kick and recommend to you!



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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:37 PM

47. No, thank YOU. It speaks to the apathy problem, and is a total turnaround.

 

Something the younger voters will enjoy too. They find much less to like than we do! This is a great things. And, aging America will appreciate his stance on soc sec and medicare, AND VA care. Wanting to vote again, means so many positive things! It was hidden as a response and look at it now!!!

Kick for you!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #47)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:44 PM

50. Yes, but you took it to the top!

And yes, I agree with your post. The youth and old can vote the message and not the person (our a little of both since he's genuine).

This is very important because people I've talked to who would've never voted for him like him because he is so different from the rest. They might not agree with his positions, but they may vote for him to get rid of the corruption.

Here's my original post for reference (and thread therein):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6587032

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #50)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:26 PM

74. Your line could send a good message to get out there: Bernie makes me 'want' to vote!

 

So simple, yet an answer for such a large problem, everywhere, in so many ways.


Bernie makes me 'want' to vote!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #74)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:36 AM

78. That is a fantastic idea.

I think we should all email him that line.

Excellent!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:03 PM

54. I would vote FOR him instead of against the Republican.

But let's be honest.

He's not going to win. If he can drag Hillary to the left a little it would be nice but she's already got the rhetoric going as insincere as it may be.

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #54)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:08 PM

58. Let's be honest, you don't fucking know that.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #58)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:13 PM

60. $10,000 bet? Heh.

Seriously though.

I do know.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:08 PM

59. I have a feeling that the Bernie/Hillary debates won't be tepid. K&R

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:31 PM

62. H 2016!

Bernie makes me want to vote again, too!

Go Hillary!!!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:33 PM

63. I might actually go to my state caucus this year after all.

I was going to skip it.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:41 PM

64. Just watch

 

The right wing media will be gushing praises on Hillary. They will be very afraid of Bernie getting any traction

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:54 PM

66. Not only will he win the Democratic nomination,

the republican party will also draft him to be THEIR candidate, too!

He will then win the presidency and EVERY electoral vote -- plus three more that we'd forgotten were there. Statistics will show that this will be the first election in US history with 99% participation. The Kook Brothers, Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankfein, DICK Cheney, Rafael Cruz, and Louie Gohmert immediately leave the country and apply for political asylum in China -- which rejects them, arrests them, and exports them back to the US as part of a shipment of bamboo shoots (look for processing codes ending in RXXX on the cans).

Unfortunately, during his inaugural speech, he strips off his mask, revealing that he's really Cthulhu, and proceeds to eat both houses of congress, alphabetically, by state. (I shrug. All candidates have a few flaws.)

Granted, it MIGHT not play out exactly like that.

But it's surely going to be nice to go to the polling place and actually vote FOR someone, for a change.

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #66)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:41 PM

76. Until I read the last 2 sentences, I was gonna ask you

where in the hell you got that shit you're vaping there, Dude.

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #66)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:42 PM

77. hey, it's what Obama's backers literally promised us 2008

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:25 PM

69. I could not agree with you more.

 

At LAST there is a Democrat speaking the way FDR, HST, JFK and LBJ used to. It's like a huge hit of oxygen.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:14 PM

71. Yeah.

I am ashamed in advance of the shit the party establishment will fling his way, but I'll just hope the he will inspire a generation of progressives, and if he can't win that he will at least make our nominee a better Democrat.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:48 PM

72. Kick cuz it's the best news in the U.S. today and tomorrow and until election day! Thanks Bernie

 

Kick....again!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:34 PM

75. It's an amazing feeling! Right after I heard he was entering the race, I decided to finally become

A star member. I'm feeling confident now that he's finally announcing.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:39 AM

79. Which is why the Third Way is having a conniption fit over his candidacy n/t

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #79)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:48 AM

81. Conniption fit is it! Everyone LIKES Bernie! Everyone doesn't like the others!

 

Onward with a spring in step.....

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:37 AM

80. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #80)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:09 AM

82. Yes! Kick Kick Kick Kick for Bernie!

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:38 AM

83. Announcement coming up at noon!!!

 

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Thank you Mr. Sanders for stepping up.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:40 AM

84. Get ready to kick again after the noon announcement!

 

Then it's game on folks!

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2015, 11:52 PM

85. Just had to come back and kick for Bernie!

 

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