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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:52 PM Apr 2015

Bernie Sanders makes me *want* to vote again!

I saw this as a response, but it's so spot on, it should be read by all here!

He makes me want to vote again too!

Kick all things for Bernie. Voters WILL NOW ENGAGE! Finally, someone to vote for. Not hold your nose or stay home. It's happy civics time in America once again now folks!

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Bernie Sanders makes me *want* to vote again! (Original Post) TheNutcracker Apr 2015 OP
I am def more excited now that it seems like Bernie will enter race. bigwillq Apr 2015 #1
Hillary has very lil chance to win the primaries, now that Bernie is in darkangel218 Apr 2015 #3
Not so sure about that bigwillq Apr 2015 #4
I am pretty sure. Once the debates start, she is done. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #5
Hopefully. bigwillq Apr 2015 #6
I think he's already moving Clinton to the left. ananda Apr 2015 #8
I don't trust that she will actually move to the left. She will say she is. She will say liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #12
+1 darkangel218 Apr 2015 #16
+2 TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #22
Yup bigwillq Apr 2015 #21
Agreed MissDeeds Apr 2015 #25
yeah, that routine sure sounds familiar, doesn't it? kath Apr 2015 #35
Yup. That's how I see it, too. nt City Lights Apr 2015 #57
I am glad he is entering the race. I just can't hold my nose and vote anymore. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #2
Bernie Sanders, is another Micheal Dukis: Dems will lose to the GOP!! lewebley3 Apr 2015 #7
No he won't! ananda Apr 2015 #9
He is a not Dem: Bernie not has worked to build the Dem Party!! lewebley3 Apr 2015 #34
Everyone watch your step! Theres a steaming pile of dog shit right here. bunnies Apr 2015 #37
You smell it too? nt Raine1967 Apr 2015 #65
going on the ignore list. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #10
Yeah, but just on the ignore mail list. Iggo Apr 2015 #19
I have never had a post hidden so I won't say what I want to say to you in response to your post corkhead Apr 2015 #11
That bastard, Raplh Nadder! LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #20
Good one! hootinholler Apr 2015 #28
Bernie is running as a Democrat, not Independent groundloop Apr 2015 #30
We'd better listen to Lewebley3. Political analysis so good they can't spell Ralph Nader jeff47 Apr 2015 #43
You understood whom I was talking about: wrong spelling or not!! lewebley3 Apr 2015 #52
Yes, and your inability to spell means your analysis is garbage jeff47 Apr 2015 #53
That is just your opinion, You spelled everything right, but still have garbage analysis!! lewebley3 Apr 2015 #61
Yeah, well, you know... Iggo Apr 2015 #67
K&R! G_j Apr 2015 #14
Senator Sanders matches my values BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #15
To me, Hillary is a politician but, Bernie is a true statesman. That is the essential difference. Hiraeth Apr 2015 #17
Very well said. Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #31
that's nice but there are many who feel the same about Hillary JI7 Apr 2015 #18
Yup 99Forever Apr 2015 #23
If Bernie wins the nomination, I can actually vote Democratic in the general. Maedhros Apr 2015 #24
Sorry, but I'll definitely vote Democratic in the general election regardless groundloop Apr 2015 #29
Do as you feel you should. Maedhros Apr 2015 #41
Me too! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #46
I feel no loyalty to a Party that has repeatedly kicked me in the teeth (metaphorically), Maedhros Apr 2015 #55
Your attitude, which matches mine, is the exact reason why A Simple Game Apr 2015 #68
I'll do whatever it takes to get Bernie the nomination. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #70
Beautifully said MissDeeds Apr 2015 #26
Told my 20 year old Reddit-based grandson that Bernie was going to run - response was YES! djean111 Apr 2015 #27
For me, it is finally voting 100% for somebody I want to win... TheProgressive Apr 2015 #32
EXACTLY! Someone you WANT to vote for for sure!! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #39
Same here. With Bernie the process of voting doesn't seem like futility LittleBlue Apr 2015 #33
Hillary is not an evil: She is hard working loyal Dem: Which Bernie is not!! lewebley3 Apr 2015 #36
"the lesser of two evils" is simply a phrase denoting a lack of choice cali Apr 2015 #38
Very true. His record mirrors my values as a democrat! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #40
Her new stances feel very focus group tested. You don't get a weather vane in Bernie like you do Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #56
So, you get paid per post or is it a bulk deal? (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #45
I hope neither ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #48
Shhh....I wanna get in on the deal. jeff47 Apr 2015 #49
Mum's the word. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #51
To be honest, a bot written even moderately well would post such nonsense far more effectively Dragonfli Apr 2015 #73
Me too: “Bernie makes me *want* to vote!” Alkene Apr 2015 #42
It was my response! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #44
No, thank YOU. It speaks to the apathy problem, and is a total turnaround. TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #47
Yes, but you took it to the top! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #50
Your line could send a good message to get out there: Bernie makes me 'want' to vote! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #74
That is a fantastic idea. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #78
I would vote FOR him instead of against the Republican. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #54
Let's be honest, you don't fucking know that. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #58
$10,000 bet? Heh. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #60
I have a feeling that the Bernie/Hillary debates won't be tepid. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #59
H 2016! Gamecock Lefty Apr 2015 #62
I might actually go to my state caucus this year after all. cyberswede Apr 2015 #63
Just watch Pharaoh Apr 2015 #64
Not only will he win the Democratic nomination, Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #66
Until I read the last 2 sentences, I was gonna ask you Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #76
hey, it's what Obama's backers literally promised us 2008 MisterP Apr 2015 #77
I could not agree with you more. hifiguy Apr 2015 #69
Yeah. Orsino Apr 2015 #71
Kick cuz it's the best news in the U.S. today and tomorrow and until election day! Thanks Bernie TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #72
It's an amazing feeling! Right after I heard he was entering the race, I decided to finally become Quackers Apr 2015 #75
Which is why the Third Way is having a conniption fit over his candidacy n/t Fumesucker Apr 2015 #79
Conniption fit is it! Everyone LIKES Bernie! Everyone doesn't like the others! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #81
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #80
Yes! Kick Kick Kick Kick for Bernie! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #82
Announcement coming up at noon!!! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #83
Get ready to kick again after the noon announcement! TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #84
Just had to come back and kick for Bernie! TheNutcracker May 2015 #85
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
1. I am def more excited now that it seems like Bernie will enter race.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:55 PM
Apr 2015

He is a candidate I can get behind.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
8. I think he's already moving Clinton to the left.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:03 PM
Apr 2015

Sanders will always be my first choice, but even if
Clinton gets the nomination, he will have been a
strong influence.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
12. I don't trust that she will actually move to the left. She will say she is. She will say
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:07 PM
Apr 2015

everything we want to hear, but when in office she is likely to govern from the center right especially economically and militarily.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. I am glad he is entering the race. I just can't hold my nose and vote anymore.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:58 PM
Apr 2015

If Bernie didn't enter the race, I would have either voted third party or stayed home. I am excited to have someone to vote for again too.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
7. Bernie Sanders, is another Micheal Dukis: Dems will lose to the GOP!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:02 PM
Apr 2015



Bernie Sanders, is like the Raplh Nadder, he will cause the GOP to win!!
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
34. He is a not Dem: Bernie not has worked to build the Dem Party!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:42 PM
Apr 2015

Why should he be able to use the Dem's for his bid: he is much to
snobby until now to join.


Dems have worked hard to make the Dem Party what it is today: they are the
party Bernie and his followers dis.

Response to lewebley3 (Reply #7)

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
30. Bernie is running as a Democrat, not Independent
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:38 PM
Apr 2015

Bernie has already said that he doesn't want to be the one who helps put a Bush or Walker in the White House, that's why he's running as a Democrat and not an Independent. If he doesn't get the nomination I'm quite sure he'll endorse whoever our nominee happens to be.
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
52. You understood whom I was talking about: wrong spelling or not!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:51 PM
Apr 2015


Message was clear, that is why you responded.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
53. Yes, and your inability to spell means your analysis is garbage
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:57 PM
Apr 2015

without even bothering to think about it. Thanks for that handy shortcut.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
61. That is just your opinion, You spelled everything right, but still have garbage analysis!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:28 PM
Apr 2015



This subject makes you a small thinker!!

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
15. Senator Sanders matches my values
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:09 PM
Apr 2015

Here is a link to his speech to the House on the vote for the Iraq War. If this doesn't show you that he is a person who will stand up for what is right and not be swayed by political expediency, there are a lot more to show. Then Rep. Sanders not only says the war is based on shaky intelligence (at best) but points out that we need to put our efforts toward helping people at home. This is a candidate I can give my full-throated support.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war

Sound is low but transcript follows. Go Bernie.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
29. Sorry, but I'll definitely vote Democratic in the general election regardless
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:34 PM
Apr 2015

I'll be supporting Bernie Sanders in the primary, but I'm enthusiastically voting for whomever the Democratic nominee is in November. Anything less will be inviting another Bush into the White House.
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
41. Do as you feel you should.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:02 PM
Apr 2015

I will vote for the politician who most closely represents my views. If that's a Democrat, then great. If not, I'm okay with that.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
55. I feel no loyalty to a Party that has repeatedly kicked me in the teeth (metaphorically),
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:05 PM
Apr 2015

then told me to sit down and STFU, then expects my vote anyway.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
68. Your attitude, which matches mine, is the exact reason why
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:15 PM
Apr 2015

Bernie will win the primaries and the General. Unaffiliated is now the largest "party." There is a reason for that and Bernie, or Warren if she were to run, are the solution to that problem.

I live in New York and if necessary will register as a Democrat again instead of unaffiliated to vote in the primaries.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
27. Told my 20 year old Reddit-based grandson that Bernie was going to run - response was YES!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:27 PM
Apr 2015

We both will be voting for Bernie.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
32. For me, it is finally voting 100% for somebody I want to win...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:38 PM
Apr 2015

...instead of voting for the 'lesser of two evils'.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
39. EXACTLY! Someone you WANT to vote for for sure!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:59 PM
Apr 2015

Yay......

Thanks Bernie for standing up....bigger than ever!

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
33. Same here. With Bernie the process of voting doesn't seem like futility
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:39 PM
Apr 2015

It's like having a real choice for the first time. No longer a contest about deciding who is the lesser evil and holding my nose.

We need Bernie

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
36. Hillary is not an evil: She is hard working loyal Dem: Which Bernie is not!!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:46 PM
Apr 2015

He just joining the Dems to get elected, he was an independent, when the hard work was being done to reubuld the Democratic party!!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
38. "the lesser of two evils" is simply a phrase denoting a lack of choice
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:59 PM
Apr 2015

He's a liberal. He has a much longer and better liberal record than she does. He doesn't need to join the dems to get elected. He's a U.S. Senator, remember? He's running in the dem primary to get his vital and much needed message out there. It's nice that HRC is now speaking up on issues that Bernie has been championing for decades- for instance, police brutality, judicial and prison reform- but many of us don't trust her new found progressive economic stances. There is no ambiguity in Bernie's record or rhetoric.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
56. Her new stances feel very focus group tested. You don't get a weather vane in Bernie like you do
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:06 PM
Apr 2015

in nearly all other candidates/politicians.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
49. Shhh....I wanna get in on the deal.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:43 PM
Apr 2015

It would be easy to write a bot to make posts that bad. And then, ka-ching!

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
73. To be honest, a bot written even moderately well would post such nonsense far more effectively
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:42 PM
Apr 2015

I'd say your bot could ask for twice the wage.

Alkene

(752 posts)
42. Me too: “Bernie makes me *want* to vote!”
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:20 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Thu Apr 30, 2015, 01:03 AM - Edit history (2)

And it has been a long time, a very long time.

My first presidential election was special, as it should be, but all the more so due to the recent change in voting age: it had only been a little over five years since the twenty-sixth amendment to the constitution came into effect- the right to vote at age eighteen; at nineteen years of age I was old enough to kill and die in wars for the United States government, but unlike many older brothers and sisters when they were of similar age I also held the civic right to vote. I regarded that right as a gift granted through the activism of the 1960’s, and consequently considered my choice for president carefully and with respect for the opportunity. I naturally expected myself to convince others of the wisdom my candidate, and was baffled by the opposition’s inability to be persuaded by my passion- which was ultimately validated by electoral victory.
On January 20th, 1977, James Earl "Jimmy" Carter, Jr. became the 39th President of the United States. I had no way of knowing at that time that he would be the last Democratic presidential candidate in the general election for whom I would hold unequivocal support.

In the ten election cycles which have unfolded since the first Apple II computers went on sale and Seattle Slew won the Triple Crown, I have vigorously and vociferously supported various candidates in presidential primaries, only to settle for the Democratic Party candidate in the general election- occasionally to the point of the “evil of two lessors,” as the cliche goes. I eventually became jaundiced to the routine of such concessions, and began the habit of voting my conscience- basing my choice on the policies, political positions and job performance of ALL the candidates running in the general election.
As time and circumstances have worn me down, the failures of candidates I had held in esteem to win the highest office in the land or even sway the national discourse, and my own failure to persuade others to share my values, I have lost the motivation to engage others politically. I eventually lost my youthful narcissism, and developed the maturity- however overdue- to realize that anyone of political persuasion holds their beliefs with the same adamant conviction as myself, reducing political discourse to a pointless exercise in ego externalization.
Similarly, I no longer desire or require external validation for opinions, positions or allegiances that I hold; my life is my own and I am no longer burdened with the need for approbation.

I have recently been given a reason to support a presidential candidate who manifests the values and convictions which I share- without equivocation; one who demonstrates a history of working for agendas from which I can directly benefit. Am I to abandon this opportunity based on a cynical calculation of viability or be dissuaded by the contumelies of others?

I don’t think so, not when, “Bernie makes me *want* to vote!”

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
44. It was my response!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:29 PM
Apr 2015

Thank you for sharing it! I'm glad others feel the way I do. It's humbling that you thought enough to share it! A great kick and recommend to you!



 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
47. No, thank YOU. It speaks to the apathy problem, and is a total turnaround.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:37 PM
Apr 2015

Something the younger voters will enjoy too. They find much less to like than we do! This is a great things. And, aging America will appreciate his stance on soc sec and medicare, AND VA care. Wanting to vote again, means so many positive things! It was hidden as a response and look at it now!!!

Kick for you!

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
50. Yes, but you took it to the top!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:44 PM
Apr 2015

And yes, I agree with your post. The youth and old can vote the message and not the person (our a little of both since he's genuine).

This is very important because people I've talked to who would've never voted for him like him because he is so different from the rest. They might not agree with his positions, but they may vote for him to get rid of the corruption.

Here's my original post for reference (and thread therein):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6587032

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
74. Your line could send a good message to get out there: Bernie makes me 'want' to vote!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:26 PM
Apr 2015

So simple, yet an answer for such a large problem, everywhere, in so many ways.


Bernie makes me 'want' to vote!

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
54. I would vote FOR him instead of against the Republican.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:03 PM
Apr 2015

But let's be honest.

He's not going to win. If he can drag Hillary to the left a little it would be nice but she's already got the rhetoric going as insincere as it may be.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
64. Just watch
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:41 PM
Apr 2015

The right wing media will be gushing praises on Hillary. They will be very afraid of Bernie getting any traction

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
66. Not only will he win the Democratic nomination,
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:54 PM
Apr 2015

the republican party will also draft him to be THEIR candidate, too!

He will then win the presidency and EVERY electoral vote -- plus three more that we'd forgotten were there. Statistics will show that this will be the first election in US history with 99% participation. The Kook Brothers, Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankfein, DICK Cheney, Rafael Cruz, and Louie Gohmert immediately leave the country and apply for political asylum in China -- which rejects them, arrests them, and exports them back to the US as part of a shipment of bamboo shoots (look for processing codes ending in RXXX on the cans).

Unfortunately, during his inaugural speech, he strips off his mask, revealing that he's really Cthulhu, and proceeds to eat both houses of congress, alphabetically, by state. (I shrug. All candidates have a few flaws.)

Granted, it MIGHT not play out exactly like that.

But it's surely going to be nice to go to the polling place and actually vote FOR someone, for a change.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
76. Until I read the last 2 sentences, I was gonna ask you
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:41 PM
Apr 2015

where in the hell you got that shit you're vaping there, Dude.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
69. I could not agree with you more.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:25 PM
Apr 2015

At LAST there is a Democrat speaking the way FDR, HST, JFK and LBJ used to. It's like a huge hit of oxygen.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
71. Yeah.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:14 PM
Apr 2015

I am ashamed in advance of the shit the party establishment will fling his way, but I'll just hope the he will inspire a generation of progressives, and if he can't win that he will at least make our nominee a better Democrat.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
72. Kick cuz it's the best news in the U.S. today and tomorrow and until election day! Thanks Bernie
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:48 PM
Apr 2015

Kick....again!

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
75. It's an amazing feeling! Right after I heard he was entering the race, I decided to finally become
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:34 PM
Apr 2015

A star member. I'm feeling confident now that he's finally announcing.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
81. Conniption fit is it! Everyone LIKES Bernie! Everyone doesn't like the others!
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:48 AM
Apr 2015

Onward with a spring in step.....

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