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So the 'prisoner' says they're lying (Original Post) malaise Apr 2015 OP
Thank you for this marym625 Apr 2015 #1
I'm looking at Chris Hayes. bravenak Apr 2015 #5
Thank you! marym625 Apr 2015 #9
It was good, girl. bravenak Apr 2015 #10
I'm being told he'll be on Maddow marym625 Apr 2015 #25
He's doing the msnbc rounds tonight. bravenak Apr 2015 #31
Oh good! I will keep watching marym625 Apr 2015 #34
Why? bravenak Apr 2015 #35
Let me find it marym625 Apr 2015 #38
Uh oh bravenak Apr 2015 #39
Thought I had a clip but don't marym625 Apr 2015 #43
I had stopped watching this week cause of that. bravenak Apr 2015 #45
We should be pissed. marym625 Apr 2015 #48
Allright, see you later! bravenak Apr 2015 #49
i got a bad feeling about her "cheerleading" the martial law thing questionseverything Apr 2015 #52
and it's only in the certain parts of the city. marym625 Apr 2015 #54
I love that guy. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #59
Did I miss it? marym625 Apr 2015 #15
OMG. bravenak Apr 2015 #6
so horrible marym625 Apr 2015 #13
I remember that. bravenak Apr 2015 #33
Thanks marym625 Apr 2015 #36
Or Roseanne singing the Anthem. bravenak Apr 2015 #37
lol! marym625 Apr 2015 #40
It was bad. I felt bad for her and I was 10 bravenak Apr 2015 #42
Thank you for the warning marym625 Apr 2015 #46
Lol! bravenak Apr 2015 #47
Yes ma'am. marym625 Apr 2015 #50
A "Tom of sh*t"? Would that be Tom Cotton? (Sometimes the hyperactive autocorrect actually tblue37 Apr 2015 #56
lol! marym625 Apr 2015 #57
Omg Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #29
I know!!! Liars!! bravenak Apr 2015 #30
That does not surprise me... I hope they nail, the killer cops. n/t Adrahil May 2015 #66
what are you talking about? chillfactor Apr 2015 #2
I'm assuming they're talking about Freddie Gray case, the "other prisoner" in the paddy wagon. Mayberry Machiavelli Apr 2015 #4
Chris Hayes malaise Apr 2015 #7
yes, jayne miller hopemountain May 2015 #62
He was really smart to go public, particularly after avebury May 2015 #63
+1,000 malaise May 2015 #65
Amazing...a prisoner's testimony would not be accepted in a normal situation. libdem4life Apr 2015 #3
This is an amazing happening malaise Apr 2015 #8
The structure is crumbling and, like rats deserting a ship, it's everyone for themselves. libdem4life Apr 2015 #14
I would GTFO of town if I were him frylock Apr 2015 #18
Had the same thought malaise Apr 2015 #22
I think he felt safer using the media...that's what he said why he went public. libdem4life Apr 2015 #27
It is when cops imprison EVERYBODY. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #60
Our criminal justice system is a joke! nt Logical Apr 2015 #11
Not just yours either malaise Apr 2015 #20
When I heard the original report I went, nope he is not lying nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #12
If one was getting bounced around, wouldn't both be? PinkPotus Apr 2015 #19
Not of the other guy was actually wearing a seat belt nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #21
I didn't hear the interview but Freddie Gray wasn't buckled in riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #24
And it has been reported that Gray was not the first avebury May 2015 #64
That Baltimore Police Department democrank Apr 2015 #16
And I wish it was limited to Baltimore or Ferguson nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #17
or even America malaise Apr 2015 #23
Well I really did not want to mention the Federal Police nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #26
Well I could start right here malaise Apr 2015 #28
Well in Mexico due to Plan Merida nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #32
Well we finally ended the war on drugs malaise Apr 2015 #51
I wonder if he was identified and fears for his safety.... Oktober Apr 2015 #41
I think he was more afraid of being anonymous & used as cover for the cops. Pirate Smile Apr 2015 #58
Who're you gonna believe? Some POS low-life thug? Dr. Strange Apr 2015 #44
I see what you did there malaise Apr 2015 #55
His conversation/interview on Hayes show was very confusing, elleng Apr 2015 #53
What exactly was confusing? HipChick Apr 2015 #61

marym625

(17,997 posts)
43. Thought I had a clip but don't
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:09 PM
Apr 2015

When I turned on maddow it was all about the riots. She literally talked about the 15 cops being hurt about 6 times in about 15 minutes..Nothing at all like the report on Al Jazeera. Nothing about the reasons for the uprising, the horrible statistics, etc. Just the CVS, cops hurt, etc

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6578420

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
45. I had stopped watching this week cause of that.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:10 PM
Apr 2015

I was pissed. But you know how it is, I stay pissed.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
52. i got a bad feeling about her "cheerleading" the martial law thing
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:22 PM
Apr 2015

troops on the streets used against American citizens should only be used in EXTREME circumstances...the night after the burnings it might of been warranted but they are acting like it is indefinite now

marym625

(17,997 posts)
54. and it's only in the certain parts of the city.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:34 PM
Apr 2015

The rich areas have no restrictions.

#FuckThePolice and the police state!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
6. OMG.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:26 PM
Apr 2015

He denied everything they said he said. He said Freddie could not hurt himself in there, there's no room. That he had to already be hurt when he got in. That by the time they got to the police station, he was pretty much DEAD.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
13. so horrible
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:33 PM
Apr 2015

Just so horrible! God damn I am beginning to hate this country. Beginning. Ha! But, you know I got a Tom of shit last time I said that here

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
56. A "Tom of sh*t"? Would that be Tom Cotton? (Sometimes the hyperactive autocorrect actually
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:42 PM
Apr 2015

makes a good point, heh, heh, heh.)

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
4. I'm assuming they're talking about Freddie Gray case, the "other prisoner" in the paddy wagon.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:20 PM
Apr 2015

Who the report was leaked, anonymous and thirdhand, that he heard Gray bumping against wagon walls and claimed he throught he was trying to harm himself even though he couldn't see him at all.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
7. Chris Hayes
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:27 PM
Apr 2015

There was an interview with that fabulous reporter Miller (can't remember her first name - might be Jayne) and the prisoner the cops lied about in the anonymous WP report that Gray severed his own spine.

The 'prisoner' decided to clear his name and fuck their anonymous bull shit lies.
It was something to see.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
62. yes, jayne miller
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:08 AM
May 2015

he also stated he is not a friend of the police and only answered questions for the investigator. he described the ride in the van real quite all the way to the police station although he heard a few "thumps" and demonstrated the sound. he said when they got to the police station, mr. gray was unresponsive and he said the cops were asking "mr. gray?, mr. gray?" but there was no response.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
63. He was really smart to go public, particularly after
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:14 AM
May 2015

the police were trying to "protect" him by not releasing his name. I think that he would need more protection from the police then the public. I wouldn't be surprised if the police had planned to do something to him and then try to blame it on the protestors so that they would have his alleged story with no one to dispute what they put out.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. Amazing...a prisoner's testimony would not be accepted in a normal situation.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:19 PM
Apr 2015

They coerced him to protect themselves...and he's "snitching" on them. He's gone from Cop Patsy to Cop Snitch. Thank god for cell phones and surveillance cameras.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
8. This is an amazing happening
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:29 PM
Apr 2015

for sure - every aspect of the sordid corrupt police is slowly being exposed. The more they dig, the more they expose themselves. It is breath-taking.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
20. Not just yours either
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:42 PM
Apr 2015

It's scary because many cops in our hemisphere receive training in the US.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
12. When I heard the original report I went, nope he is not lying
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:32 PM
Apr 2015

he could not see beyond the division. He heard banging, Gray was unrestrained and cuffed, likely unconscious and was given a penny ride. Banging, sure. as the body flings against the van wall.

But more of the truth now trickles out.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
24. I didn't hear the interview but Freddie Gray wasn't buckled in
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:45 PM
Apr 2015

he was given a "nickel ride".

If the other passenger/s were buckled in, they would not have been tossed around, or probably even have noticed a too sharp turn or hard braking.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
64. And it has been reported that Gray was not the first
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:16 AM
May 2015

person that the Baltimore PD gave a rough ride. They have had a few court settlements.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
26. Well I really did not want to mention the Federal Police
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:46 PM
Apr 2015

or for that matter insert municipal police in my home country, but if you must...

Where do you want me to start?

malaise

(268,998 posts)
28. Well I could start right here
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:48 PM
Apr 2015

in Jamaica.
Those with power (and weapons) are out of control and they get support from the coercive arm of the state and from many in the branches of government.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
32. Well in Mexico due to Plan Merida
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:54 PM
Apr 2015

and the war on drugs, they not only are out of control but there are at least 26,000 people missing, and we all know of the 43 students missing from Ayotzinapa, or the army killing some folks at Tlataya.

The Human Rights Commission is bbbuuuusssyyy.

Did I mention the war on drugs? Common denominator methinks.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
51. Well we finally ended the war on drugs
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:17 PM
Apr 2015

and decriminalized ganja. Hopefully we'll see some change although I doubt that it will change the cocaine trade in our hemisphere.

Pirate Smile

(27,617 posts)
58. I think he was more afraid of being anonymous & used as cover for the cops.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:05 PM
Apr 2015

At least that was the impression I got from the interview.

elleng

(130,905 posts)
53. His conversation/interview on Hayes show was very confusing,
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:24 PM
Apr 2015

and pretty clear worth NOTHING as 'evidence.'

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