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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:24 PM Apr 2015

Officer Driving Van HAS YET TO GIVE STATEMENT To Authorities

~snip~

The sources spoke to ABC7 News after being briefed on the findings of a police report turned over to prosecutors on Thursday.

Sources said the medical examiner found Gray's catastrophic injury was caused when he slammed into the back of the police transport van, apparently breaking his neck; a head injury he sustained matches a bolt in the back of the van.

Details surrounding exactly what caused Gray to slam into the back of the van were unclear. The officer driving the van has yet to give a statement to authorities. It’s also unclear whether Gray’s head injury was voluntary or was a result of some other action.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/breaking-news-no-evidence-found-that-freddie-gray-s-death-was-result-of-police-who-arrested-him-prob.html




The WJLA report claims that the person driving the police van has yet to give an official statement to authorities, which certainly makes it seems like he or she is lawyering up or, at the very least, hiding something.

http://gawker.com/report-freddie-gray-suffered-fatal-head-wound-in-back-1701341911


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Officer Driving Van HAS YET TO GIVE STATEMENT To Authorities (Original Post) Segami Apr 2015 OP
How is this person still working for the Police force awake Apr 2015 #1
Good christ. At the heart of this is a MASSIVE disregard for the lives of black people. Bonobo Apr 2015 #2
+1 BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #12
YES! Dammit YES! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #18
It's making me utterly crazy BrotherIvan May 2015 #19
How can the investigation be complete without speaking with this person? Renew Deal Apr 2015 #3
I'm scratching my head as well. Dem2 Apr 2015 #6
Welcome to DU, Dem2! calimary May 2015 #26
What a difference 24 hours makes Dem2 May 2015 #38
He was just driving, had the radio on. Rex Apr 2015 #10
Two and a half weeks after the arrest that killed him and no statement yet?? riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #4
Because this is a sham just like the Darren Wilson investigation Renew Deal Apr 2015 #7
Looks like this officer is invoking his or her 5th amendment right 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #5
In my mind he can claim is right while collecting his unemployment check awake Apr 2015 #8
They probably cannot just automatically fire the driver if there is a union involved cstanleytech May 2015 #17
And the police need Union reps in interviews right? awake May 2015 #23
Police, fire, autoworker, a union is a union and their job is protect their members. cstanleytech May 2015 #27
So-called Police Unions are not "Unions" 951-Riverside May 2015 #28
You just threw unions under the bus with that, congrats. cstanleytech May 2015 #29
The police "Union" craled under the bus all by them selfs awake May 2015 #30
Yes and those unions will probably pay the price eventually because when you weaken cstanleytech May 2015 #33
Spare me the hyperbole. This is what Police "Unions" stand for 951-Riverside May 2015 #31
Yes its the police but not the unions the unions are doing their freaking jobs like all unions do. cstanleytech May 2015 #32
The Albuquerque Police Union paid a $500 bounty to Officers who shot people 951-Riverside May 2015 #34
Domino effect. Rex Apr 2015 #9
Innocent until proven guilty is only for non-public employees seveneyes Apr 2015 #11
Well, shit, I'm convinced . . . OldRedneck Apr 2015 #13
voluntarily. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #21
Off topic but... SoapBox Apr 2015 #14
hard to believe this man has not been interviewed spanone May 2015 #15
This crap would Aerows May 2015 #16
I imagine they are fighting over who is responsible for the injuries. KMOD May 2015 #20
His attorney has probably told him to keep his mouth shut Jack Rabbit May 2015 #22
What about all of the other cops who know what went down but are keeping silent? awake May 2015 #25
I read that one of his (the driver's) relatives said he was afraid the arresting cops were going to tblue37 May 2015 #35
They should know that they have the right to remain silent, of course Jack Rabbit May 2015 #36
That otta be good nt fadedrose May 2015 #24
This officer will take the 5th Gothmog May 2015 #37

awake

(3,226 posts)
1. How is this person still working for the Police force
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:34 PM
Apr 2015

any other employe at any company who refused to tell their boss what they knew about a death of a passenger of a car or van that the employe was driving would be out of a job by now.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
2. Good christ. At the heart of this is a MASSIVE disregard for the lives of black people.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:35 PM
Apr 2015

I cannot think of anything more nauseating than this.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
12. +1
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:12 PM
Apr 2015

They need an independet prosecutor NOW. The whole thing is corrupt from top to bottom. #$#@#%@$@^^@$%@!!!!!!!!! I can't believe this shit!!!!!!!!!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
18. YES! Dammit YES!
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:29 AM
May 2015

The weasel wording of all these ass-covering "reports" is fucking repulsive.

jeeezus h. christ...

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
19. It's making me utterly crazy
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:31 AM
May 2015

Are we going to see just another Mike Brown and Eric Garner? Is there NOTHING that can be done for fuck's sake???

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
6. I'm scratching my head as well.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:42 PM
Apr 2015

They claim he sustained a lethal injury in the van, yet they released a report of the investigation without interviewing the person driving the van? Seems very odd.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
26. Welcome to DU, Dem2!
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:12 AM
May 2015

Glad you're here! One would presume that if everything was on the up 'n' up on the police side, they'd have coughed up all kinds of stuff already. Wonder what's taking so long? And doesn't it tend to start looking suspicious? Doesn't the delay suggest, increasingly strongly, that some individuals somewhere are having a problem trying to keep their story straight? Doesn't it strongly suggest a bad smell? Maybe they're not finished - um - "laundering" the evidence? Seems to me they'd be out with it very quickly if things were simple and straightforward.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
38. What a difference 24 hours makes
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:12 PM
May 2015

It appears the drive was indeed hiding something. I'm now wondering if he slammed the door onto the back of his head.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
4. Two and a half weeks after the arrest that killed him and no statement yet??
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:38 PM
Apr 2015


How is the investigation complete?

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
7. Because this is a sham just like the Darren Wilson investigation
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:49 PM
Apr 2015

They will stall and then announce months later that there is no wrongdoing.

awake

(3,226 posts)
8. In my mind he can claim is right while collecting his unemployment check
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:53 PM
Apr 2015

I thought officers had to file a report as part of their job, if they want to claim a 5th amendment right then they should leave the force since they are refusing to do their job as required.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
17. They probably cannot just automatically fire the driver if there is a union involved
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:21 AM
May 2015

which the odds are good that there is as police departments for large cities seem to be pro union.
Nonetheless it will be interesting to learn what all the driver knows.

awake

(3,226 posts)
23. And the police need Union reps in interviews right?
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:44 AM
May 2015

Maybe there needs to be a Union for "Black men walking" to protect their rights.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
27. Police, fire, autoworker, a union is a union and their job is protect their members.
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:16 AM
May 2015

If you dont like.............well thats your choice.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
28. So-called Police Unions are not "Unions"
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:23 AM
May 2015

Real unions fight for fair wages and safe working conditions while Police "unions" fight for the right of people within their ranks to kill citizens and get away with it. They will also gladly arrest members of other unions to protect big corporations.

These POA/FOP gangs have never showed solidarity with the struggle of other union members, yet they expect Real union members to grovel at their feet.

They are a disgusting group of people.

awake

(3,226 posts)
30. The police "Union" craled under the bus all by them selfs
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:33 AM
May 2015

The Police "Unions" through all of the other unions under the bus in Wiss. For Scot Walker

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
33. Yes and those unions will probably pay the price eventually because when you weaken
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:56 AM
May 2015

union you weaken them all and its why alot of republican controlled states are trying to make it harder for the state union workers to collect dues because their goal is to weaken the unions even more.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
31. Spare me the hyperbole. This is what Police "Unions" stand for
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:38 AM
May 2015


Source


Source


Source

Police "Unions" continue to steamroll over the rights of real union members.
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
34. The Albuquerque Police Union paid a $500 bounty to Officers who shot people
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:13 AM
May 2015
http://www.pressherald.com/2012/03/23/police-union-gives-payments-to-officers-involved-in-shootings_2012-03-24/

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – Albuquerque police officers involved in a rash of fatal shootings over the past two years were paid up to $500 under a union program that some have likened to a bounty system in a department with a culture that critics have long contended promotes brutality.

Mayor Richard Berry called Friday for an immediate halt to the practice, which was first reported in the Albuquerque Journal during a week in which Albuquerque police shot and killed two men. Since 2010, Albuquerque police have shot 23 people, 18 fatally.

“The administration has nothing to do with how the union conducts their business,” Berry said in a statement, “but I was shocked yesterday when made aware of this practice. I cannot stand aside and condone this practice. It needs to end now.”


Here's an oldie I found way back in 1992

"Spokane Police union offers squealer bounty"

Tho police union is offering $1,000 for the names of the officers who leaked to newspapers the identities of two patrolmen accused of hiring teen-age prostitutes


https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1243&dat=19920619&id=2IRTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=84YDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3629,1873654&hl=en

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Domino effect.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:55 PM
Apr 2015

Cops are getting more and more blatant about violating a persons civil rights. That video should cast aside any doubt that it is not just a few bad apples. Not unless those in the video and those that hide it and those that knew it was hidden...ahem...

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
13. Well, shit, I'm convinced . . .
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:57 PM
Apr 2015

. . . Gray must have head-butted the side of the van.

You know -- lead paint, weed, and all that.

"The Fire Next Time"

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
14. Off topic but...
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:58 PM
Apr 2015

LAPD body cameras have been approved...in the final vote, there was ONE dissenting vote.

Why did the one guy dissent?

He felt it was wrong, to allow the officers to view the content of the camera...BEFORE...filing their report on the situation that they were involved in.

Seriously?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. This crap would
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:10 AM
May 2015

be absolutely absurd if it wasn't so damn tragic. The story seems to change every time I read a new article!

You can't crush your own voice box and sever your spine 80% of the way in handcuffs. That is just the most ridiculous explanation I've ever heard.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
20. I imagine they are fighting over who is responsible for the injuries.
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:33 AM
May 2015

The driver, or the arresting officers.

awake

(3,226 posts)
25. What about all of the other cops who know what went down but are keeping silent?
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:58 AM
May 2015

Are not they guilty of conspiring to cover up a crime and obstruction of justice?

and why does a driver need a attorney before he fills out a report on what happened on his shift?

tblue37

(65,334 posts)
35. I read that one of his (the driver's) relatives said he was afraid the arresting cops were going to
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:44 AM
May 2015

try to scapegoat him, so he is protecting himself from being blamed for what they diid.

OTOH, I also read an article that said the one who hasn't given a statement yet is one who has also had accusations of brutality leveled against him in the past.

NOTE: I have no idea which, if either, story is closer to the truth. I m just telling what I have read in different articles.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
36. They should know that they have the right to remain silent, of course
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:01 AM
May 2015

Of course, I hope they nail them to the wall.

In the waning days of Apartheid, the authorities claimed that Steve Biko committed suicide in his jail cell. When the autopsy showed that for this to be correct, one must assume that Mr. Biko was banging his head against the wall long after he was already unconscious.

And now that want to tell us that Freddie Gray severed his own spine.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
37. This officer will take the 5th
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:08 AM
May 2015

I do not expect this officer to answer questions since he is likely to be charged

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