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Post pictures of REAL Democrats so everyone knows who stands with us. I'll begin! (Original Post) Suji to Seoul May 2015 OP
Passion for people and for equity come quite naturally to both of these fine Senators. NYC_SKP May 2015 #1
And the Other the VP? AgingAmerican May 2015 #4
Tapping my fingers waiting on Warren Hutzpa May 2015 #2
... Quackers May 2015 #3
... SidDithers May 2015 #5
Well, there you have it. NanceGreggs May 2015 #7
Hey thanks for posting our Dem Prez and his 1st SOS, Sid! Cha May 2015 #8
....yeah Warren DeMontague May 2015 #10
Two great people and leaders. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #22
Thanks, Sid. Also Real Democrats, MineralMan May 2015 #32
I'd like to participate ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #6
Obviously, you don't speak True Scottish. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #9
Harold Ford, Jr, Rahm Emmanuel, Zell Miller and people like that are NOT real democrats! Suji to Seoul May 2015 #11
According to who? NanceGreggs May 2015 #12
Wow. . .rude. Over-the-top and completely uncalled for attack on an opinion. Suji to Seoul May 2015 #13
Rude? Over-the-top? NanceGreggs May 2015 #15
No, but your snark, rude, condescending and aloof attitude in your responses is unnecessary Suji to Seoul May 2015 #16
Stop playing the victim and tell us who the Decider is.nt treestar May 2015 #42
Ron Wyden supports the TPP DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #44
You can tell by how they vote and who pays for their election. rainy May 2015 #28
I will give you Zell...He excluded himself... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #41
Nance, do you really require a disclaimer that people's posts here represent opinions? Bonobo May 2015 #17
Ya know, you're right. NanceGreggs May 2015 #34
There's at least one here who claims to be the decider, Ms. Toad May 2015 #24
. Revanchist May 2015 #14
One of my favorite. NCTraveler May 2015 #23
My all-time favorite Democrat Art_from_Ark May 2015 #18
My favorite Democrat because he was my favorite singer's, Harry Chapin, hero Suji to Seoul May 2015 #19
If I may madokie May 2015 #35
Alllard K. Lowenstein Suji to Seoul May 2015 #36
Thanks madokie May 2015 #37
Oh yea! A purity thread! n/t Adrahil May 2015 #20
Great op. NCTraveler May 2015 #21
It must be awesome to have the power to decide who's a REAL Democrat... brooklynite May 2015 #25
Of of course liberal N proud May 2015 #26
All three of these senators!... cascadiance May 2015 #27
How Nice... :sarcasm: MineralMan May 2015 #29
Try Me. I'm curious. Suji to Seoul May 2015 #30
Try yourself. MineralMan May 2015 #31
Rude, but okay. Suji to Seoul May 2015 #33
lamest alert evah... ok, maybe not evah... but pretty damn lame. seabeyond May 2015 #38
juror #2 here ablamj May 2015 #39
OP is not and never has looked for a fight and OP did not alert. OP said "rude, but okay" Suji to Seoul May 2015 #46
I know what "OP" said in that response, but ablamj May 2015 #47
Thanks for posting the results. MineralMan May 2015 #40
A Real Democrat would have been registered as a Democrat treestar May 2015 #43
Love our Dems!! Here are a few more pics, RiverLover May 2015 #45
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Passion for people and for equity come quite naturally to both of these fine Senators.
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:36 AM
May 2015

May one of them become our next president.

MineralMan

(150,911 posts)
32. Thanks, Sid. Also Real Democrats,
Fri May 1, 2015, 09:25 AM
May 2015

as selected by Democrats to hold important elected offices. This whole "true Scotsman" crap is really getting old fast.

Democrats elect the people they want to office. Democratic voters decide who is their choice among Democrats, not random DU posters about whom we know virtually nothing.

I know Democrats. I work with Democrats in the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. They're working hard to elect more Democrats to office. They are the Real Democrats. There's a link to the St. Paul MN DFL website I created for my precinct in my signature line.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
6. I'd like to participate ...
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:29 AM
May 2015

... but I am a bit confused by the "REAL Democrats" label.

REAL Democrats? Who are the not-real (or is it unreal?) Democrats? How do we distinguish between the two?

Is there an "official spokesperson" who can tell us who is REAL and who is not? If so, on what basis do they decide which is which, and who/what authority gave them that decision-making power?

Is there a Grand Poobah-type of office someone has been appointed and/or elected to that I don't know about - ya know, some Decider-Guy who speaks on behalf of the Party and determines, by virtue of that position, who is REAL and who is not?

Apparently I am not on the mailing list, and have not received the talking points memo.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
12. According to who?
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:01 AM
May 2015

You?

Are you the Great One Himself, who we all must bow before and defer to in all things?

Like I said, I don't get the daily memos - and therefore have no idea as to who's in charge here.

Can you PM me a list of who I am allowed to consider a fellow Democrat, and who I must disparage on a daily basis in order to be considered "in"?

TIA!

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
13. Wow. . .rude. Over-the-top and completely uncalled for attack on an opinion.
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:04 AM
May 2015

Zell Miller spoke at the RNC. Harold Ford is a conservadem. Rahm Emmanuel is the same.

You supposed Blue Dogs, conservadems and Democrats that are Keynote speakers at the RNC?

Wow!

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
15. Rude? Over-the-top?
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:12 AM
May 2015

I was simply asking for clarification as to who was the Decider-Guy-in-Chief that determines who is a REAL Dem and who isn't.

If you don't think I am "inner circle" enough to know the identity of The Determinator, you can just say so.

I'll be crushed - but I will understand.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
16. No, but your snark, rude, condescending and aloof attitude in your responses is unnecessary
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:21 AM
May 2015

Please don't talk to me again unless you can develop the ability not to talk down to people you disagree with.

If you support Blue Dogs, Conservadems and Democrats that speak at the RNC, like Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller, that's your business. But those are not real democrats.

Bernie is! Warren is! Grayson is! Wyden, Whitehouse, Reed, Feingold, Franken, Brown, de Blasio are REAL Democrats.

rainy

(6,319 posts)
28. You can tell by how they vote and who pays for their election.
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:54 AM
May 2015

for their elections. There's a democratic platform. Just check the items that the "democrat" is for. If they vote against most of the items they are not voting for democratic issues and thus not real democrats.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,736 posts)
41. I will give you Zell...He excluded himself...
Sat May 2, 2015, 07:56 AM
May 2015

Harold Ford and Rahm Emmanuel have adherents in the party, especially the latter who won his mayoral election and swept every African American precinct in the process.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
17. Nance, do you really require a disclaimer that people's posts here represent opinions?
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:24 AM
May 2015

Are you not experienced enough in your online life to have gleaned that little fact?

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
34. Ya know, you're right.
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:57 PM
May 2015

I guess it just always gets my goat when I see people promoting the idea that there are REAL Democrats versus - what? Lesser Democrats? Not-so-worthy Democrats? Fake Democrats?

It is an "opinion" that is thrown around too frequently, IMHO, on what purports to be a site for ALL Democrats.

Yes, I've been around the block a few times. But the fact is I didn't used to see this type of thing on DU back in its glory days. We disagreed with fellow Dems, fought with them, debated with them - but didn't lapse into labeling each other as DINOs, ConservaDems, Republican-lite - or REAL Dems.

This kind of labeling has now inevitably found its way into the discussion of who's supporting who in the run-up to the 2016 primaries and election. And - again IMHO - the insinuation that some are supporting REAL Dems and others aren't serves no other purpose than to be divisive.

I joined DU in 2005, and was here for the 2008 primaries. As an Obama Girl from the start, I remember getting into some vitriolic debates, especially with the HRC supporters and the Edwards supporters. We argued endlessly about where candidates stood on the issues, whose ideas were more workable, who represented Party ideals more so than their competitors.

But the notion of who was a "REAL" Democrat didn't enter into the discussion.

It strikes me that for some here, categorizing some Democrats as "REAL" (the clear meaning being that some others are not) is representative of an agenda that, on its face, REALLY has nothing to do with honest debate, but REALLY has everything to do with pitting Democrats one against the other.

Well, that's MY opinion anyway.

Ms. Toad

(38,422 posts)
24. There's at least one here who claims to be the decider,
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:32 AM
May 2015

or at least the interpreter of the rules, who claims repeatedly and in multiple threads that a certain recently announced candidate for president isn't eligible to run as a Democrat. I suspect that's what this is responding to.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. Great op.
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:03 AM
May 2015

So far it has produced pics of about six great democrats. More are to come I am sure. Great to see who we have doing the bidding for the masses on our side. We have done well and there is more work to do.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
25. It must be awesome to have the power to decide who's a REAL Democrat...
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:38 AM
May 2015

...I hope you only use this power for good.....

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
38. lamest alert evah... ok, maybe not evah... but pretty damn lame.
Fri May 1, 2015, 09:39 PM
May 2015

Try yourself.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6601667

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

MM comes into the thread with rudeness and hostility, the OP responds with openness and MM doubles down on the personal insults and rudeness with this post. This si offensive and makes DU suck.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri May 1, 2015, 10:37 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't agree that this post is worthy of a hide.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nothing rude about MM in this thread. Seems the OP is looking for a fight.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: the Ops purpose was all about snark. there is nothing even remotely wrong with mineral man's post. such a lame alert.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Kind of surprised at MM.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: MM can be offensive and bickering, but post was not over the top.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why don't you just leave MM the fuck alone? Stop goading and baiting him and giving him shit for no reason. Bunch of fucking bullies. What makes DU suck is people who gang up on someone for not sharing their marginal views and who won't jump on the bandwagon of a third party longshot just because the kucinich krowd thinks it's the only way to go. Leave. Stop being assholes.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seriously? This is extremely tame compared with much of what I see on this site.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
46. OP is not and never has looked for a fight and OP did not alert. OP said "rude, but okay"
Sat May 2, 2015, 08:35 AM
May 2015

and moved on.

Please do not make assumptions. I've already been called a troll by a juror and now I'm looking for a fight by another juror.

ablamj

(333 posts)
47. I know what "OP" said in that response, but
Sat May 2, 2015, 02:33 PM
May 2015

The original post itself seemed to be itching for a fight in my opinion. That is what I meant. And a lot of your other responses appear to me that way as well. If I were the alerter I would have alerted on "OP", not MM.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
43. A Real Democrat would have been registered as a Democrat
Sat May 2, 2015, 08:04 AM
May 2015

and running as a Democrat for some serious period of time, especially if they aim to get the Democrats to run them for the most prominent office the country has.

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