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Breaking - State Attoney MOSBY - Freddie Gray's death was a homicide (Original Post) malaise May 2015 OP
No probable cause malaise May 2015 #1
... CatWoman May 2015 #21
Sweet for days sis malaise May 2015 #27
That news conference brought a tear to my eyes Dem2 May 2015 #37
For real malaise May 2015 #39
Thanks :) Dem2 May 2015 #71
There was no probable cause for him to be detained at all since Malraiders May 2015 #36
YAY!!! MoonRiver May 2015 #2
Here come the charges malaise May 2015 #3
One is second degree murder! MoonRiver May 2015 #7
She's kicking ass. calimary May 2015 #4
I'm impressed malaise May 2015 #5
"To the youth of this city I will seek justice on your behalf." calimary May 2015 #11
She will be AG of th USA malaise May 2015 #17
A star is born, maybe? I found myself imagining her in the future - undoubtedly calimary May 2015 #41
Last time I was this impressed was 2004 malaise May 2015 #48
Would not be surprised at all..... daleanime May 2015 #110
no justice, no peace! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #60
LISTEN TO HER GO....THE CHARGES !!! WOW !!! NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #88
and a WOMAN!!!! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #96
My husband said it best: "the best man for the job is a woman." calimary May 2015 #100
:) BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #108
That's what Harry Reid said about women making gains in the Senate. calimary May 2015 #112
that matches the research I saw. wish I could remember where I read that. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #121
Blanche and Calimary: another good reason for another woman on the SCOTUS, imo Hekate May 2015 #125
indeed!!!! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #132
We need another woman on SCOTUS, and another multitude of women in the House and Senate, calimary May 2015 #138
In general that's true. But let's remember Maggie Thatcher, an indeologue JDPriestly May 2015 #147
yes, this is true...lots of exceptions going both ways. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #151
Yes. As a woman and mother of daughters, I absolutely, enthusiastically JDPriestly May 2015 #161
Very shrewd. The deadlier of the species... who don't take prisoners ! And don't forgive in Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #153
Aaaand in freeperdump StarlightGold May 2015 #136
Welcome to DU, StarlightGold! calimary May 2015 #137
Thanks so much! StarlightGold May 2015 #139
I think we all feel the same way! calimary May 2015 #144
Thanks so much! StarlightGold May 2015 #177
'She' kicking ass... and taking names ! Must have the full American saying ! Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #154
She sure did take names! That's a certainty! calimary May 2015 #160
That poor man RockaFowler May 2015 #6
Mosby just announced the charges malaise May 2015 #8
Thanks - I'm not near a TV right now RockaFowler May 2015 #12
All six charged malaise May 2015 #20
CNN now reports 5 officers in custody, 1 to go pinboy3niner May 2015 #117
Mosby is the State Attorney, right? You may want to add S.A. to your subject for context. randome May 2015 #9
Done malaise May 2015 #13
I want to see pictures of the scum who did this. B2G May 2015 #10
Warrants have been served malaise May 2015 #15
Yep, just heard her say that. B2G May 2015 #19
Here is the picture; 3 black 3 white 7962 May 2015 #149
Amen! panader0 May 2015 #14
Things are done differently in MD than in Missouri. madinmaryland May 2015 #73
She has impressed me Robbins May 2015 #16
Her newness means she has not been poisoned malaise May 2015 #26
"Accountability. You're getting it today." calimary May 2015 #18
Contrast her with that mealy-mouthed PoS St. Louis County DA Bob McCulloch. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #23
No kidding. I was thinking that same thing. He embodied the "friendly prosecutor's office" calimary May 2015 #33
McCulloch had actually attended some sort of high society event during the Brown Grand Jury KingCharlemagne May 2015 #38
So ironic Robbins May 2015 #50
exactly Robbins May 2015 #34
She brings a new culture to the office malaise May 2015 #24
Kick. Agschmid May 2015 #22
Wow. Dem2 May 2015 #25
YES!! Duppers May 2015 #28
Recommended. H2O Man May 2015 #29
May 1 may well be Marilyn Mosby's day malaise May 2015 #32
K&R! hrmjustin May 2015 #30
There was more cause to arrest the police than there was to arrest Freddie Gray. nt kelliekat44 May 2015 #31
Fox news now preparing their fair and balanced take on this. Kingofalldems May 2015 #35
And don't forget Dark Haired Guy Who's Not Steve Douchey. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2015 #44
Brian Kilmeade, another genius. Kingofalldems May 2015 #46
Oh that's his name! I've always just called him that. Guy Whitey Corngood May 2015 #49
He's more like awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #120
If they cannot impugn Freddie Gray, they'll start going after Ms. Mosby (maybe for KingCharlemagne May 2015 #58
One of the newsies there already asked about that. Without hesitation she said there is none... Hekate May 2015 #127
Their take will be NewJeffCT May 2015 #148
Thank you malaise. lovemydog May 2015 #40
photo of charging list nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #42
Interesting list IDemo May 2015 #47
Rough Ride...yes Chakaconcarne May 2015 #118
Girl you're good malaise May 2015 #51
I already ran the breakng news nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #56
This is such a relief libodem May 2015 #43
I never heard anything like this.... Segami May 2015 #45
Oh Happy Labor Day malaise May 2015 #52
Ditto!! Segami May 2015 #79
Brave person itsrobert May 2015 #53
I am honestly shocked. Fix The Stupid May 2015 #54
Remember now - they aren't in court yet malaise May 2015 #57
"No crime had been committed by Mr. Gray." Skidmore May 2015 #55
HE dared to make eye contact with cops malaise May 2015 #63
Precisely. Enthusiast May 2015 #81
Racism, backed by the police union. Segami May 2015 #94
If its racism, is the union only backing the white cops?? 7962 May 2015 #150
No. The black turncoats, seemingly partners in crime, here, are far too useful Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #158
And they also have the more serious charges against them; 7962 May 2015 #162
No. You can't sweep the disparity between the systemic persecution of Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #166
I understand there is a difference 7962 May 2015 #169
The Jewish prisoners in the concentation camps used to Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #173
oh, so the black cops just go along and are never bad on their own? 7962 May 2015 #174
What a strange construction you put on my words. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #175
Well said malaise May 2015 #164
2 or 3 of the six cops charged are blacks. NobodyHere May 2015 #163
It SHOULD be about police thuggery. 7962 May 2015 #170
I watched part of the press conference and listened to the rest Gothmog May 2015 #59
If anyone can post the news conference here, it's much appreciated. lovemydog May 2015 #61
Searching for it but watch here for now malaise May 2015 #69
Thank you very much malaise. lovemydog May 2015 #74
Here malaise May 2015 #72
Great video. Thank you. Marilyn Mosby - outstanding. lovemydog May 2015 #77
That ought to make some officers straighten up, get off steroids, and start acting like public Hoyt May 2015 #62
It ought to, but I somehow doubt it will. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #64
Depends on the final verdict malaise May 2015 #66
So fucking awesome!! Vattel May 2015 #65
We are sick and tired of killer cops workinclasszero May 2015 #67
K&R BumRushDaShow May 2015 #68
Now send them to a dark place for a very long time damnedifIknow May 2015 #70
Holy shit! Lying Fox News will lose their fucking minds. Enthusiast May 2015 #75
Can someone go over to Fox News and check out wat they're saying? I cant. Dream Girl May 2015 #80
We turned it on for a moment just to see. They seemed to be civil for once. Enthusiast May 2015 #128
People are honking horns in Baltimore malaise May 2015 #84
Wonder Rafale May 2015 #76
You mean "homicide" right? Initech May 2015 #78
Good. Never thought there was a law against making eye contact and running the other way. muntrv May 2015 #82
BTW, the discussion should be does it take a BLACK DA/States Atty to get justice? NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #83
Elijan Cummings speaking now malaise May 2015 #86
Yes, he's praising Marilyn Mosby's integrity. lovemydog May 2015 #93
No, just one with open eyes jmowreader May 2015 #99
The guy in MO intentionally gave total respect and deference to the white cop and zero NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #102
Fantastic LittleBlue May 2015 #85
Excellent work by the DA's office. kwassa May 2015 #87
k&r... spanone May 2015 #89
Let the games begin! The first crack in the blue wall of silence? A Simple Game May 2015 #90
Much respect for doing your job ma'am workinclasszero May 2015 #91
Finally!!!!! PatrickforO May 2015 #92
Wow!!!!! skeewee08 May 2015 #95
This is fantastic jmowreader May 2015 #97
Just got on DU today and saw this first suffragette May 2015 #98
i'm wondering if... Takket May 2015 #101
You're right malaise May 2015 #104
Finally!! IHateTheGOP May 2015 #103
Kicking ass & taking names - TBF May 2015 #105
Finally, a little justice vive la commune May 2015 #106
Hallelujah!!!!!! BrotherIvan May 2015 #107
It's nice to see that a prosecutor "gets it". Trillo May 2015 #109
Full video here: NBachers May 2015 #111
Thanks for the link workinclasszero May 2015 #114
Thank you Turin_C3PO May 2015 #113
Welcome to DU Turin_CPO malaise May 2015 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author libdem4life May 2015 #116
dispensing Nickel Rides? sendero May 2015 #119
She's an impressive young woman. Those murders will be brought to justice. Hekate May 2015 #122
I'd like her to run for President right about now. bravenak May 2015 #123
If I were her, I'd have some serious private security MineralMan May 2015 #124
Sweet Mr Dixon May 2015 #126
Ms Mosby comes from five generations of cops. countryjake May 2015 #129
All six cops are now in custody... countryjake May 2015 #130
Yay!!!!!nt bravenak May 2015 #131
Great news malaise May 2015 #134
State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby Cha May 2015 #133
Kick MoreGOPoop May 2015 #135
Mosey is awesome! Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #140
K&R Solly Mack May 2015 #141
Chris Hayes is interviewing Mosby right now on his show malaise May 2015 #143
Truth to power! raven mad May 2015 #142
Fantastic. Now find a jury of non boobs and convict these six of murder. Suji to Seoul May 2015 #145
Finally! n/t X_Digger May 2015 #146
The disingenuous way they try to criminalize the innocent victims of their homicides, Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #152
The only time we mustn't spreak ill of the dead is when it's their dead malaise May 2015 #155
Yes. What a bitter irony. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #159
Excellent news! d_legendary1 May 2015 #156
Here is interesting coverage by the New York Times. I was too Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #157
Link? n/t malaise May 2015 #165
Here it is : Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #167
Thanks n/t malaise May 2015 #168
this is great but remember one thing BobbyBoring May 2015 #171
Have you seen Dershowitz slamming Mosby for bringing charges? chervilant May 2015 #172
Dershowiz is an authority on deviousness (think, O J)... but right rule, good governance? Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #176

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
37. That news conference brought a tear to my eyes
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015

I didn't think justice was possible in this country. Not that convictions are guaranteed or even likely, but the BS false arrest was uncovered and charges filed - this in itself is totally unexpected.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
71. Thanks :)
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
May 2015

I think I'm going to be in shock for days after watching that.

I may watch it a 3rd time just to ensure that I'm not dreaming.

Malraiders

(444 posts)
36. There was no probable cause for him to be detained at all since
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:21 AM
May 2015

the cops were not aware of his knife in the firsty place.

And I wonder if the knife was planted by the cops.

If the cops are willing to lie that the knife was a switchblade then they will be willing to plant evidence when they screw up.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
4. She's kicking ass.
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:54 AM
May 2015

She's systematically ticking off multiple offenses - on the part of the officers.

No probable cause for arrest, repeated violation of police practices.

2nd degree murder, multiple manslaughter and misconduct, assault.

Ticking it off. One by one.

"To the people of Baltimore, I heard your call - no justice, no peace."

To the six of you police in this case - brutalize your way out of THAT one.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
11. "To the youth of this city I will seek justice on your behalf."
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

I'm impressed, too. The crowd seems to be, as well. When she said "murder" for the first officer, voices in the crowd reacted with what sounded like pleasant surprise.

She looks like a kid. But she speaks with the power and authority of someone twice or three times her age.

"A warrant has been issued for their arrest."

calimary

(81,044 posts)
41. A star is born, maybe? I found myself imagining her in the future - undoubtedly
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:26 AM
May 2015

headed for a higher office. Wouldn't be surprised.

Magnificent, impressive debut on the national scene for this young woman today. She just won a lot of respect, I think. No-nonsense. And pretty clearly - no bias apparent. Looks like HER office is not one of those many prosecutors' offices that's in bed with, or otherwise biased toward, the police. Like her counterpart in Ferguson CLEARLY was.

malaise

(268,571 posts)
48. Last time I was this impressed was 2004
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:32 AM
May 2015

at the Democratic Convention - early days but a great debut.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
108. :)
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:07 PM
May 2015

It's time.

There's research showing women are more effective in a variety of positions and bring a level of response and communication above what their male counterparts do.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
112. That's what Harry Reid said about women making gains in the Senate.
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:23 PM
May 2015

He loved it. I think it was during Rachel Maddow's interview with him. He said the Senate became steadily better as more women entered the picture. Less bullshit. Problems got worked on, and in some cases solved. More got done.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
121. that matches the research I saw. wish I could remember where I read that.
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:24 PM
May 2015

But we all know it's true. Women respond to problems in context, while men tend to adhere more to ideology, not recognizing the realities and variables of individual situations.

I read Dr. Carol Gilligan's study on the differences between women's and men's thinking styles. "In A Different Voice." realllllly excellent.

Hekate

(90,496 posts)
125. Blanche and Calimary: another good reason for another woman on the SCOTUS, imo
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:40 PM
May 2015

Anyway, this young prosecutor is impressive as all get out. She gave one of the more thorough, complete, and informative statements to the press I have ever heard -- with not a nanosecond's hesitation in telling them she was still not going to give them either info or opinions she had already given them good reason for withholding.

I would not like to be facing her with nothing but lies and BS in my defense.

I wish her all good fortune in this prosecution and in her future.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
138. We need another woman on SCOTUS, and another multitude of women in the House and Senate,
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:33 PM
May 2015

AND in the statehouses, AND in the governor's mansions, AND, yes, in the Oval Office. Forty-four Presidents we've had. All men. Time for a change. But it's been time for a change for awhile, if you ask me.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
147. In general that's true. But let's remember Maggie Thatcher, an indeologue
Sat May 2, 2015, 01:42 AM
May 2015

if there ever was one.

My husband tends to be very flexible and is a good peacemaker.

I just don't agree with categorical generalizations.

More women than men have a lot of "social intelligence," but there are a lot of exceptions.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
151. yes, this is true...lots of exceptions going both ways.
Sat May 2, 2015, 09:02 AM
May 2015

No argument there.

I still want more liberal democrats who are women in high places, though!

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
153. Very shrewd. The deadlier of the species... who don't take prisoners ! And don't forgive in
Sat May 2, 2015, 09:18 AM
May 2015

a hurry, either, as I've found to my cost !

StarlightGold

(365 posts)
136. Aaaand in freeperdump
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:11 PM
May 2015

A couple of them said " I don't like her attitude". And "she has a bad attitude".

Now, an official calling for people to be held to account has an "attitude"; translation...Uppity.

I'm sure they will be calling her a "thug" if they haven't already...

calimary

(81,044 posts)
137. Welcome to DU, StarlightGold!
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:31 PM
May 2015

Glad you're here! They'll call her all kinds of things that aren't fit to print, I'm sure. I call her magnificent. And impressive as hell!!!

StarlightGold

(365 posts)
139. Thanks so much!
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:45 PM
May 2015

Having this place and people like you to vent with is a godsend after a lifetime of dealing with uber RW batshit crazy family members.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
144. I think we all feel the same way!
Fri May 1, 2015, 09:17 PM
May 2015

That's what we're here for! DU has been a lifesaver and an oasis in a very large, dry, barren desert. Those of us who have been here since Selection 2000 found a solace and a safe haven we never dreamed existed. HOW MANY of us came here, pleasantly surprised, with the same opening comment: many versions of "So glad I finally found you guys, because I've felt so isolated and alone!" and "I thought I was the only one who felt this way!"

Sometimes we just almost literally cling to each other! Sometimes it feels like we're all alone together on some liberal lifeboat. And other times I know we've felt like we're dancing on top of the world - in a very large, and sympathetic, AND expanding crowd! We ALL use each other to vent to. The difference is - those on the receiving end are all venting on the same outrages, with many of the same words and phrases and complaints!

This place kept me sane and kept me company during the nightmare that was bush/cheney. It was just what I needed, and just when I needed it.

And I've found it makes you smarter. I can't even begin to count how much I've learned since I started reading in here. There are so many brilliant people here at so many different levels of expertise and experience, professional and otherwise. There's a WEALTH of it here. Some people are just hot-diggity-damn CLEVER. Brutally, sometimes. And some of 'em are world-class writers, researchers, and teachers. I've got TONS of quotes in my quotes collection from people - either that they made up themselves or they were quoting one of their favorites. I've learned boatloads about so many issues that people have either researched and attached links, or they know about it because it's what they do for a living or they were married to it, or they're debating it or defending it in some way. Just learning-learning-learning all the time here. It helps you formulate your own opinions, examine issues, and gain perspective on events and crises and personalities in the news. It expands your insights. Lots of truth serum and a little tough love too. But I can't tear myself away. And I know I've certainly bored or annoyed my share of people here! And for that I apologize. But I know SOOOOOoooooo much more now than I did when I arrived.

One other thing I love about DU is - there's so much compassion here you almost drown in it. As our own Skittles once said - "someone's always here." Can't tell you how many times I've enjoyed that. I always seem to find work, throughout my life, that keeps me up and busy at odd hours. And DU is there. I posted here the night my mother passed. TONS of mixed feelings! And she'd been in increasingly bad health for so long it was one of those "at least she isn't suffering anymore" type of things. Didn't know how to feel, or which of about a thousand feelings to face first. So I posted. And within about a minute, somebody posted back. And then there were a few. And then a few more. Then a few more. Then QUITE a few more, and it just continued for a whole 'nother day! People reached out and comforted me and shared and just all kinds of wonderful posts. A few hundred of them. I CANNOT tell you how much that meant. I CANNOT tell you how much that helped. CANNOT find the words. People reached out - that whole thing about the friendly and intimate strangers of most of the anonymous people we know on the internet. I was overwhelmed. I still am. And that was back during bush/cheney! People messaged me and offered more solace and shoulders to lean on. Phone numbers, even. Which I never got to, and I didn't want to intrude, but I appreciated that so much. I didn't know what to say or how to say the kind of thank you that these people deserved. And still deserve.

Some of us refer to it as the "DU family." Well, yeah. Actually - it is.

Glad you're here!

StarlightGold

(365 posts)
177. Thanks so much!
Thu May 14, 2015, 01:58 PM
May 2015

This place is great, much in part to people like you!
Looking forward to posting more often and also giving out as much compassion as I may receive!

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
6. That poor man
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:56 AM
May 2015

I hope the people in Baltimore can be patient to wait for any charges against the officers. This is so sad

Oh and if I see anything on my Facebook feed where he deserved this I will scream. No-one deserves to die that way. For any reason

malaise

(268,571 posts)
20. All six charged
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:05 AM
May 2015

Start with second degree murder and several other charges
Now Mayor and governor - end the curfew and remove the national guard.
Investigation was independent ot the Baltimore Police.

Well done Marylin Mosby

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Mosby is the State Attorney, right? You may want to add S.A. to your subject for context.
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:57 AM
May 2015

But good news.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

panader0

(25,816 posts)
14. Amen!
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

I wonder if these indictments would have come about without the public outcry, whether peaceful protests or riots.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
16. She has impressed me
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:01 AM
May 2015

When i heard she came from family of police officers i thought she would be biased towards them.

I have natural tendacy to think escpecilly after ferguson if proscuorters have person connections to police they will protect police.

Just imagine prosecutors actully doing their job not being biased towards police.

I am very impressed with her.

malaise

(268,571 posts)
26. Her newness means she has not been poisoned
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:08 AM
May 2015

with the culture of 'cover-up'. The really great news was that they investigated this independent of the police.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
18. "Accountability. You're getting it today."
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:02 AM
May 2015

Last edited Fri May 1, 2015, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

I like this woman. She looks and behaves like a no-bullshit type. Very professional. She's stressing her department's investigation was independent, not solely relying on the police version of events.

Baltimore's State Attorney. Just in office for a few months. Impressive woman.

This is the Quote of the Year!

calimary

(81,044 posts)
33. No kidding. I was thinking that same thing. He embodied the "friendly prosecutor's office"
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:16 AM
May 2015

miscarriage of justice. He was WAY too cozy and WAY too biased toward the cops. TOO MANY like him are that way. This wasn't.

I'm impressed! About time!!! The civilians in the crowd during her announcement were audibly pleased with what they were hearing. She's throwing the book at 'em.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
38. McCulloch had actually attended some sort of high society event during the Brown Grand Jury
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015

proceedings, an event with historical roots in the Missouri KKK\White Citizens' Council past. I swear you cannot make this shit up. Apparently St. Louis has an 'irony deficit disorder.'

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
50. So ironic
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:33 AM
May 2015

St Louis is one of 2 main democratic areas of MO and blacks are key part of democratic base.Many blacks In St Louis have voted for
him and he thinks nothing of them.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
34. exactly
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:18 AM
May 2015

He acted before grand jury as darren wilson's defense attorny.Here prosecutor remembered she was suspose to get justice for the
victim.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
28. YES!!
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:09 AM
May 2015

This is such a relief. Had to call my husband at work.

This DA has so much evidence to convict these cops.

And CNN has had some good interviews on the streets today. You can feel their emotions. I'm still wiping tears. Wow, just wow.

I was in Bmore over the weekend and felt the tension. This is such a relief.

Kingofalldems

(38,406 posts)
35. Fox news now preparing their fair and balanced take on this.
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:20 AM
May 2015

Renowned expert Mark Fuhrman will comment along with the brilliant Steve Doocy, who will also make faces at the camera.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
58. If they cannot impugn Freddie Gray, they'll start going after Ms. Mosby (maybe for
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:36 AM
May 2015

spurious 'conflict of interest' charges or some such nonsense). Because, see, on Fox News black people are not allowed to be successful, except maybe as athletes or entertainers and then only so long as they keep their mouths shut about life as it is actually lived.

Hekate

(90,496 posts)
127. One of the newsies there already asked about that. Without hesitation she said there is none...
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:47 PM
May 2015

As she stated, her husband as a legislator makes the laws and she enforces them.

But expect some other idiot to bring it up again.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
148. Their take will be
Sat May 2, 2015, 07:22 AM
May 2015

that since the prosecutor is black, she's siding with the rioters and thugs out of racism and hatred of white people.

Of course, they won't out-and-out say that, but they'll imply it strongly.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
47. Interesting list
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:31 AM
May 2015

"Misconduct in office", "False imprisonment", "Depraved heart murder" (any other kind?). The "Manslaughter by vehicle" one makes me wonder if they haven't concluded that the death was the result of a rough ride rather than a rough arrest.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
56. I already ran the breakng news
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:36 AM
May 2015

realize that now I will have to stay on reaction, and I am NOT THERE.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
45. I never heard anything like this....
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:29 AM
May 2015

...I was watching the news conference in awe. It took some real integrity to file these charges today and not kick the can down the road.


Unbelievable!


Fix The Stupid

(947 posts)
54. I am honestly shocked.
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:35 AM
May 2015

never ever did I believe this would happen.

Bravo to all the peeps that made this happen - it was your pressure and voice that directly resulted in these charges being laid.

Now...maybe we can all see the power of sticking together and having a common cause?

This is what the PTB/Plutocrats/men behind the curtains fear the most.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
55. "No crime had been committed by Mr. Gray."
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:36 AM
May 2015

Doesn't it make you want to scream. Guilty of being black while on a street.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
94. Racism, backed by the police union.
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:26 PM
May 2015

The police union has stated they are all innocent of the charges..................sure they are...

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
158. No. The black turncoats, seemingly partners in crime, here, are far too useful
Sat May 2, 2015, 12:29 PM
May 2015

to white, racist police and judicial authorities, as tools, as your question illustrates. From the police union's depraved angle, they are probably their most precious asset imaginable. That is why, with good men being tortured and killed for their patriotism, during insurrections of occupied peoples (already by definition on the back foot), traitors are dealt with mercilessly. Giving aid and succour to the enemy.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
162. And they also have the more serious charges against them;
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:02 PM
May 2015

charges brought by a prosecutor who is also black, in a city administration that is also black!

But being serious, maybe this case will finally make people realize that bad cops come in all colors and have been abusing all colors

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
166. No. You can't sweep the disparity between the systemic persecution of
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:50 AM
May 2015

poor whites, real enough, and that of poor blacks under the rug, like that. The massive preponderance of blacks in the 'for profit' prison and parole systems, both absolute and relative, speaks for itself. Nevertheless, this thread throws light on what both persecuted groups face:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026612007

I remember Joe Bageant wrote on the depressing theme. I believe they even have to pay for their parole interviews and what have you.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
169. I understand there is a difference
Sun May 3, 2015, 12:00 PM
May 2015

I'm just tired of the REST of the story always getting ignored here, or just get a passing mention. The guy in Cal. who was tased and beaten a week or so ago while he was lying on the ground with his hands behind his back is one example. the person who posted the OP even said "I assumed the man was black, when I found out he was white I almost didnt post it". Absolutely ridiculous. The black cop in Ala. who shot and killed an unarmed white kid was pretty much ignored here too. These cops need to be exposed regardless of race.
But you are right; the "system" wanting to bleed you. I've been around that many times where I live. And here, you are almost guaranteed to be considered rehabilitated within days of paying off your fines!

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
173. The Jewish prisoners in the concentation camps used to
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:34 PM
May 2015

call the turncoats who supervised their work gangs and were frequently brutal criminals, in exchange for privileges, 'kapos'.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
174. oh, so the black cops just go along and are never bad on their own?
Sun May 3, 2015, 05:23 PM
May 2015

You need to do a little more research. When some people put on the blue, it doesnt matter what color THEY are

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
175. What a strange construction you put on my words.
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:28 AM
May 2015

None of them would have an ounce of moral fibre in my book, but only the likes of the driver, perhaps, would otherwise be as pro-active in such murder and mayhem.

So, yes, most of them would 'go along to get along.' Not because they are necessarily better than their white colleagues, but few life-long victims of the same sub-human oppression, would sink as low as the 'kapo', pro-actively. It takes a special, Stygian degree of blindness born of an abyss of moral turpitude to fail to recognise one's own kinship any other human beings, especially when part of a tyrannized subculture, and to join in taking the homicidal initiative among their persecutors.

malaise

(268,571 posts)
164. Well said
Sun May 3, 2015, 06:05 AM
May 2015

They are all tools of the system and the culture of racism is embedded in their modus operandi

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
163. 2 or 3 of the six cops charged are blacks.
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:33 PM
May 2015

Is this really about race? Or is it just general police thuggery.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
170. It SHOULD be about police thuggery.
Sun May 3, 2015, 12:02 PM
May 2015

And they come in all colors. But a lot of folks here only want to focus on race most of the time. Its sad, but true

Gothmog

(144,842 posts)
59. I watched part of the press conference and listened to the rest
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:41 AM
May 2015

The State Attorney did a good job and was prepared

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
74. Thank you very much malaise.
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:03 PM
May 2015

I like this local Baltimore reporting much more than the national coverage. They interview many good people in Baltimore.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
62. That ought to make some officers straighten up, get off steroids, and start acting like public
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:46 AM
May 2015

servants.

malaise

(268,571 posts)
66. Depends on the final verdict
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:48 AM
May 2015

When the fines and awards for constitutional violations come from their paychecks we will see real change

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
67. We are sick and tired of killer cops
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:51 AM
May 2015

Grinding their damn jackboots into people who have every damn right to protest the horrible conditions most Americans have to live under these days!

These fuckers in blue are paid killers for the 1%!

BumRushDaShow

(128,257 posts)
68. K&R
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
May 2015

I just watched the video replay of her statement.

You could feel (or at least *I* could feel) her difficulty in suppressing the absolute agony and fire in her soul with respect to the situation as she read her statement.

I think for many of us, given the events of the past year and expanded media coverage, little has changed in terms of police departments reading the writing on the wall and dealing with the fact that "times have changed" and this sort of thing will no longer be condoned or covered up. Just a lot of bad apples out there, up the chain. It's not unlike the child-abuse cases finally being dealt with in the Catholic church - getting the infection exposed, accepting responsibility, and ridding the institution of the infestation.... and this needs to happen in many LE departments.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
75. Holy shit! Lying Fox News will lose their fucking minds.
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:03 PM
May 2015

Maybe Lying Fox News will call for an armed insurrection.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
80. Can someone go over to Fox News and check out wat they're saying? I cant.
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:06 PM
May 2015

I just got out of the shower😉

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
128. We turned it on for a moment just to see. They seemed to be civil for once.
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:46 PM
May 2015

I figure they will mount an attack later once they get their talking points written.

malaise

(268,571 posts)
84. People are honking horns in Baltimore
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:09 PM
May 2015

Joy Reid is reporting live. People are jubilent even though they know the trial is still to come.

Rafale

(291 posts)
76. Wonder
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:04 PM
May 2015

Wonder if the officers will get out on bail and go on vacation in the islands (has that happened recently???!). There's still a long, long way to go on this thing to get justice.

malaise

(268,571 posts)
86. Elijan Cummings speaking now
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

says he didn't know a decision would be coming down today.

Praising Marilyn Mosby big time.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
93. Yes, he's praising Marilyn Mosby's integrity.
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:22 PM
May 2015

He said earlier this morning that he knew she would analyze all the facts, apply them to the law, and treat everyone fairly. He said earlier this morning that he would accept her decision. Cummings also said that Freddie Gray was a human being. That Marilyn Mosby saw him as a human being.

Cummings said that many community leaders in Baltimore have been saying they have never seen justice in these cases before. Never.

He also cautioned that until fundamental issues like equality of education are addressed and corrected, justice has not been achieved.

He said that everyone in Baltimore wants a better day rising for their children.

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
99. No, just one with open eyes
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:38 PM
May 2015

That idiot in Missouri must have had his head in a bucket to not notice he was dealing with a homicide. This lady saw it right off.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
102. The guy in MO intentionally gave total respect and deference to the white cop and zero
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:43 PM
May 2015

respect to the dead kid.

Intentional

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
85. Fantastic
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

Justice will hopefully be served. This seems more straightforward than the Trayvon trial. ME ruled definitively a homicide AND he was shackled. Hard to believe the officers will get off.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
90. Let the games begin! The first crack in the blue wall of silence?
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:17 PM
May 2015

Who will cut who's throat to get a better deal? I doubt when there is real cell time on the line that they will be loyal to each other.



suffragette

(12,232 posts)
98. Just got on DU today and saw this first
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:35 PM
May 2015

Nice to see good news and positive change 1st thing in the morning!

Takket

(21,524 posts)
101. i'm wondering if...
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:39 PM
May 2015

even though the murders of Martin and Brown went unpunished due to the inherent racism in the system, if those deaths were not in vain. The country in the last year is really starting to pay attention to this stuff and may finally be slowly turning into the light.

Think of it.... would Grey's death have been any more than a blurb in the local newspaper (if even that) to come and go without being analyzed or questioned by anyone, if not for the murders or Brown and Martin?

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
109. It's nice to see that a prosecutor "gets it".
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:11 PM
May 2015

If people are treated fairly by cops, they wouldn't desire to riot.

Turin_C3PO

(13,880 posts)
113. Thank you
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:24 PM
May 2015

Attorney Mosby! It's time to start cleaning house in all law enforcement agencies, from the top down.

Response to malaise (Original post)

Hekate

(90,496 posts)
122. She's an impressive young woman. Those murders will be brought to justice.
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:25 PM
May 2015

This is such good news.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
123. I'd like her to run for President right about now.
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:30 PM
May 2015

She was awesome. That's what I expect from a prosecutor. A measure of justice. So much better that St Louis prosecutor, much better. We need more like her!

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
124. If I were her, I'd have some serious private security
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:34 PM
May 2015

detailed to protect me. There are going to be a bunch of B'more cops really pissed at her today.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
129. Ms Mosby comes from five generations of cops.
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

A shudder is sweeping across this nation's Blue Wall.

As sad as this case is, I think that was possibly the best presser this country has ever listened to! Historical.

What a May Day!

Thanks, malaise, for breaking this news!

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
140. Mosey is awesome!
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:06 PM
May 2015

We have a pretty good DA here in Albuquerque, Kari Brandenberg...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/12/1357155/-Big-Big-News-Albuquerque-DA-to-File-Murder-Charges-Against-Two-APD-Officers

"ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – District Attorney Kari Brandenburg plans to file murder charges on Monday against the two Albuquerque police officers who shot James Boyd in the Sandia Foothills last March, according to multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of her decision.
It will mark the first time an APD officer has faced criminal charges for shooting someone in the line of duty in New Mexico’s largest city. APD has one of the highest rates of police shootings in the country, and the Boyd’s death was the result of the most controversial in a series of 27 fatal shootings here since 2010."

What a brave woman. She is taking sooo much crap for this!

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
152. The disingenuous way they try to criminalize the innocent victims of their homicides,
Sat May 2, 2015, 09:16 AM
May 2015

after their felony is beyond disgusting, and should itself be a criminal offence; trying to pervert the course of justice, perhaps. Or perhaps simply a cretinism that shames mankind. And leaving his body in the street like that for four hours strongly suggests that the whole law-enforcement set-up, not just the police, must be close to ranking as the scum of the earth. Get that crossbow out again, Burt !

Wilson hadn't even heard the allegation that Brown had stolen from a shop, when he killed him, yet Brown, without a criminal record, was branded by all and sundry as a criminal. Nor, at the time, was the shopkeeper sure it was him, and now, after mature reflection, and perhaps feeling a little safer, he has stated that the thief was not Brown.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
156. Excellent news!
Sat May 2, 2015, 11:58 AM
May 2015

And fuck the police! Your inquiry into your own actions should not interfere with the course of the courts who have a case against you.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
157. Here is interesting coverage by the New York Times. I was too
Sat May 2, 2015, 12:18 PM
May 2015

sickened to read the last several paragraphs.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
171. this is great but remember one thing
Sun May 3, 2015, 12:57 PM
May 2015

they had no choice but to file charges. The rest of Baltimore would have burned down if they didn't.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
172. Have you seen Dershowitz slamming Mosby for bringing charges?
Sun May 3, 2015, 01:02 PM
May 2015

I am astonished that he would step into the limelight, given the charges pending against him, about which he has stated:

“totally false and totally made up in every respect.”


Methinks he doth protest too much...

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
176. Dershowiz is an authority on deviousness (think, O J)... but right rule, good governance?
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:28 AM
May 2015

Only imbeciles and/or knaves could fail to be familiar with such an elementary law as that distinguishing between the carrying of a flick-knife and a different type of knife, under Maryland law.

This is, after all, their domain - street-level crime; the laws of which they should be familiar with; not white-collar crime, such as fraud, so ambagious as to rely heavily on statistics.

Everyone makes mistakes, everyone makes big mistakes, but God give the prosecutor every assistance, as it seemed imprudent of her to effectively 'cheer-lead the prosecution to the demonstrators (despite having every private and well-founded ground to harbour the underlying sentiments she expressed), thereby giving oxygen to eminent, compulsive attention-seekers, sometimes demonstrating a lamentable lack of a sense of proportion as, imo, Dershowitz has, here.

But then, did he not accept to defend O J Simpson, and contrive to get him off the hook? That surely took an appalling depth of cynicism. 'What does it profit a man, if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?' It seems to have escaped Dershowitz that the man-made laws of States and nations must be the handmaidens of good governance, not the other way round. What's that they say? To a hammer, everything looks like a nail..? He seems to see everything as grist to his legal mill.

So, it seems to me there are severe limitations on the wisdom that could expected of him. A high degree of worldly, analytical intelligence has hardly been a guarantee of wisdom - still less common sense, so let's hope that wisdom is given very opportunity in the upcoming trial.

The wisdom of his confreres, other professors, could do with some boosting in terms of the public's esteem, not further ridicule. 'Absent-minded professor' can have an all too literal meaning. Given a false assumption, the most pellucid and faultless logic will lead to the madhouse; and sound assumptions are by no means a special prerogative of those with a high analytical intelligence, but tend rather to be the province of the heart, our desire.

Because the factors that contribute to our world-view are so abstruse, atheism is just as much a religion as any Christianity or any other religion properly so-called. And strident, secular fundamentalism is in no wise less foolish than Christian fundamentalism.

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