A Friendly Reminder...

[McCamy Taylor]

... since Americans are history impaired. W. could not have stolen the 2000 Selection if Nader did not make Gore's margin of victory razor thin by running his "Gore is the Same as Bush" campaign---which was heavily funded and supported by Republicans like Grover Norquist, a man who is NOT a progresive and by the MSM which never missed a chance to tell (Republican) voters that the better Nader did the worse Gore would do (so send Nader money, hint, hint, nudge, nudge).

Have fun fighting it out in the primary but what happens in the primary stays in the primary and Dems had better come together during the convention--or else.

[Skinner]

1. Ruh-roh

[Hekate]

4. Have some more butter'n'salt

Nice to see you around, Skinner.

[AuntPatsy]

2. .

[Hekate]

3. They don't like hearing that. We're just supposed to stfu. Pass the popcorn...

... this should be entertaining.

[hrmjustin]

5. Nader had the right to run but he helped elect Bush.

I know some here take issue with that but this is what I believe.

[Deny and Shred]

6. Florida was going to Bush no matter what

Thast was not democracy in action, it was pre-determined. Tens of thousands of votes from democratic strongholds were never counted. The scant Nader votes didn't tilt the result. Had they voted for Gore, the office of Kathleen Harris would simply have ignored a few more Gore votes.

[R B Garr]

7. There was a mandatory recount because of the margin of victory

It's not in doubt that Nader played spoiler.

[Deny and Shred]

13. Was that recount ever conducted to its conclusion?

Jeb was governor - they weren't worried about the recount at that point. They hoped Gore would concede, which he did. Then he reversed himself after learning of all the BS that was going on in FL.

Jeb's people were in Harris' office all of election night, 'tallying' the votes as they came in.

The exit polls were right. All media outlets had it as going for Gore for hours, until it was obvious GWB needed FL to win. Then the race tightened, with Bush by a nose at the wire. It would have looked overly obvious if it became a Bush landslide off of votes from Broward county and other Dem strongholds.

[R B Garr]

15. Well...that's a separate issue than the margin of victory which

forced the recount.

What I remember is the final tally had Bush up by some 500-something votes. The SCOTUS ruled that a full recount could proceed, but they stuck with an already published deadline which meant there actually was no time for a recount that would affect the outcome because it favored Bush at that time.

I'm sure there are a lot of experts on that whole lawsuit here, but I'm going by memory from the main points from that time period.

[Sheepshank]

8. it's what the RNC wanted ... they wanted and assumed Florida for W. It wasn't in the bag.

what they actually got was a run, way too close to call. It took the Supreme Court to finally give the win to W. It should never have been that close...Nader made the difference.

Remember how sure Rove was over Mitten's win.....the incredulous look. Clearly he thought it was in the bag too. I am very sure that somewhere along the line his finagling, didn't pan out, and he hadn't been told that something went awry.

[AtomicKitten]

9. "... or else." Interesting sales tactic.

[bahrbearian]

10. 80,000 purged votes in the last 2 weeks in the Florida Vote , Ya it must have been Nader that...

Purged the Votes.

[Gothmog]

11. Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it

[winter is coming]

12. I have yet to read a "friendly reminder" that wasn't a self-important lecture

and/or a thinly veiled threat. Most of them were also total bullshit.

[liberal_at_heart]

14. good thing I'm not a Dem. I will not be told who to vote for.