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Police Union says the cops did nothing wrong (Original Post) fadedrose May 2015 OP
look for...the union label nt msongs May 2015 #1
there is no union label with police juxtaposed May 2015 #8
Why don't they say cwydro May 2015 #2
Good question gratuitous May 2015 #6
I'm beyond angry at why there is not an answer to this simple question. cwydro May 2015 #14
Because anybody with any sense nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #21
Thank you!! bravenak May 2015 #7
I also want to see their mugshots so cwydro May 2015 #17
I wanna see their faces. bravenak May 2015 #19
I kinda laughed when I saw how "hefty" that one "bike cop" was. cwydro May 2015 #22
I think it will change. bravenak May 2015 #23
i'm waiting to see what happens with our local cwydro May 2015 #32
The My Lai Massacre also had its defenders. leveymg May 2015 #3
KKKop shops run just like the Mafia. hifiguy May 2015 #4
Meanwhile ... water remains wet. lpbk2713 May 2015 #5
I Heard The Union Is Calling This A Rush To Judgement.... global1 May 2015 #9
What would you have them do? Throw the cops over the wall? Stinky The Clown May 2015 #10
They are doing their job nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #11
If their job is to protect bad cops! Nt Logical May 2015 #12
That, as the Ford commercials used to say, is JOB #1 hifiguy May 2015 #13
Yes, good and bad nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #16
I doubt the teachers union defends a teacher who beats the shit out of a student for no reason. nt Logical May 2015 #18
Lawyers do what they do nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #20
I found their statement to be confrontational. cwydro May 2015 #15
You must remember, the Union is the cops. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #24
No it isn't what the union is supposed to do. As representatives of the police force they are NOT still_one May 2015 #27
You are correct. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #28
Thanks for the clarification still_one May 2015 #31
agreed 100%... chillfactor May 2015 #30
After seeing Freddie's picture on TV fadedrose May 2015 #25
That statement by the police union, before the facts are completely known, just demonstrate another still_one May 2015 #26
Listening to them was surreal etherealtruth May 2015 #29

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Good question
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:22 PM
May 2015

Police union? What did Freddie Gray do wrong? And was it so very wrong that he deserved to die within minutes? Where, at last, is your humanity?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. I'm beyond angry at why there is not an answer to this simple question.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:59 PM
May 2015

My mom, 88, watches the news with me and continues to ask me, "WHY, did they go after him in the first place???!!"

They keep saying "they made eye contact"...uh, does that mean I cannot look at a cop?


WTF?

WHAT did he do wrong that got their attention and why is no one asking this question in the news media?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. I also want to see their mugshots so
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:08 PM
May 2015

I know they were really booked.

The union will have them bailed immediately however.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
19. I wanna see their faces.
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:14 PM
May 2015

I gotta see the people who did this. I saw the bike cops but not a good look.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. I kinda laughed when I saw how "hefty" that one "bike cop" was.
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:24 PM
May 2015

Not to fat shame, but come on. So many overweight cops?

Steroids perhaps, or just plain doughnut eating idiots.

I've taken the side of cops on this forum. I know cops...dated a few lol.

But this Baltimore situation is so obviously wrong on every level. I find it very upsetting.

I can only hope justice will prevail. But that won't bring Mr. Gray back.

In my hometown, we have a cop coming up on charges for the killing of an unarmed black man. The trial starts in July. The police chief ( a black man) immediately threw the idiot off the force. I wonder what will happen. My sweetheart at the time (white female police officer) and I disagreed on this. Needless to say, we are not together anymore lol.

Police violence is out of control. When the killers of Eric Garner got off, I pretty much gave up.

Something has to change. But will it?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
23. I think it will change.
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:27 PM
May 2015

They have never been under this nation wide scrutiny and it comes in blue areas and red areas, so no one can say that simply voting will solve it. I think it's crunch time. People are planning to film cops everytime they see an interaction.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
32. i'm waiting to see what happens with our local
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:44 PM
May 2015

killer cop.

He was a dog pound employee before he became a cop.

Scary on so many levels.

global1

(25,323 posts)
9. I Heard The Union Is Calling This A Rush To Judgement....
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015

Shouldn't Freddie Gray's arresting cops be accused of a rush to judgement?

Stinky The Clown

(67,859 posts)
10. What would you have them do? Throw the cops over the wall?
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:25 PM
May 2015

That's what police "unions" do. That's essentially their sole purpose.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. Yes, good and bad
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:04 PM
May 2015

they are to defend them from any and all liabilities

If the FOP did not, why bother paying dues?

It is not just FOP where lawyers are there to do that job. In my mind it does not speak as to guilt or innocence, it speaks to SOP.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. Lawyers do what they do
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:21 PM
May 2015

these officers have been indicted, they have not been convicted. They are innocent until proven guilty In my mind they are guilty as can be, but they have a right to their day in court.

As to the teacher's union, if they have a lawyer on retainer, you betcha... it is part of why you pay fees as a union member.

Locally we had a few officers go to jail, one to state prison, he has 4 years to go, for sexual assault. It got weird. The DA did the prosecution, and like Baltimore the CITY and the FOP lawyers had to defend the officers. Locally it is known as the POA for accuracy sake.

This is the way the system works.

By the way, I could not be part of the jury. As I said, in my mind they are guilty. But BEFORE the legal system, they deserve a muscular and good defense. (And they'd better get it, or the appeals if they get convicted will be very easy).

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
24. You must remember, the Union is the cops.
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:50 PM
May 2015

Obviously, cops always will say cops did nothing wrong. Not a problem of the Union, it is what the union is supposed to do. The balance is the non-union management of the employees enforcing standards of conduct and disciplining per union contract.

still_one

(92,605 posts)
27. No it isn't what the union is supposed to do. As representatives of the police force they are NOT
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:43 PM
May 2015

the ones who decide if the police did something wrong or not, and by them making that comment, as representatives of the police, says exactly what is wrong with the police force.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
28. You are correct.
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:46 PM
May 2015

The Union are the cops though. If there is something wrong with how the cops view things, it will show in the actions of the Union.

chillfactor

(7,600 posts)
30. agreed 100%...
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:52 PM
May 2015

that was a horrific mistake on the union's part and it really showed everyone why the culture of the Baltimore police is viewed as corrupt in the eyes of the public in their city....

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
25. After seeing Freddie's picture on TV
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:37 PM
May 2015

so many times, and thinking to myself, what a handsome guy (I'm white and very old), but not dead.

I wonder if his main crime was being handsome while black. Maybe some of them are jealous. Maybe Freddie was popular with the ladies, maybe this, maybe that, but he was nice-looking.

Also, maybe I'm wrong.

still_one

(92,605 posts)
26. That statement by the police union, before the facts are completely known, just demonstrate another
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:40 PM
May 2015

thing wrong with the police


etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
29. Listening to them was surreal
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:46 PM
May 2015

A healthy young man is dead ... one they apparently head no legitimate reason to detain ... and he is DEAD.

Someone did something effing wrong ... a healthy young mans spine does not spontaneously "sever"

It is insulting and enraging to hear "they did nothing wrong"

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