Fri May 1, 2015, 03:06 PM
fadedrose (10,044 posts)
Police Union says the cops did nothing wrong
and when all the evidence has come in, everyone will know that. They even put a black cop on TV to show his support for the six.
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fadedrose | May 2015 | OP |
msongs | May 2015 | #1 | |
juxtaposed | May 2015 | #8 | |
cwydro | May 2015 | #2 | |
gratuitous | May 2015 | #6 | |
cwydro | May 2015 | #14 | |
nadinbrzezinski | May 2015 | #21 | |
bravenak | May 2015 | #7 | |
cwydro | May 2015 | #17 | |
bravenak | May 2015 | #19 | |
cwydro | May 2015 | #22 | |
bravenak | May 2015 | #23 | |
cwydro | May 2015 | #32 | |
leveymg | May 2015 | #3 | |
hifiguy | May 2015 | #4 | |
lpbk2713 | May 2015 | #5 | |
global1 | May 2015 | #9 | |
Stinky The Clown | May 2015 | #10 | |
nadinbrzezinski | May 2015 | #11 | |
Logical | May 2015 | #12 | |
hifiguy | May 2015 | #13 | |
nadinbrzezinski | May 2015 | #16 | |
Logical | May 2015 | #18 | |
nadinbrzezinski | May 2015 | #20 | |
cwydro | May 2015 | #15 | |
PowerToThePeople | May 2015 | #24 | |
still_one | May 2015 | #27 | |
PowerToThePeople | May 2015 | #28 | |
still_one | May 2015 | #31 | |
chillfactor | May 2015 | #30 | |
fadedrose | May 2015 | #25 | |
still_one | May 2015 | #26 | |
etherealtruth | May 2015 | #29 |
Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:09 PM
msongs (65,210 posts)
1. look for...the union label nt
Response to msongs (Reply #1)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:24 PM
juxtaposed (2,778 posts)
8. there is no union label with police
Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:10 PM
cwydro (48,537 posts)
2. Why don't they say
why they attacked the man to begin with?
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Response to cwydro (Reply #2)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:22 PM
gratuitous (80,075 posts)
6. Good question
Police union? What did Freddie Gray do wrong? And was it so very wrong that he deserved to die within minutes? Where, at last, is your humanity?
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Response to gratuitous (Reply #6)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:59 PM
cwydro (48,537 posts)
14. I'm beyond angry at why there is not an answer to this simple question.
My mom, 88, watches the news with me and continues to ask me, "WHY, did they go after him in the first place???!!"
They keep saying "they made eye contact"...uh, does that mean I cannot look at a cop? WTF? WHAT did he do wrong that got their attention and why is no one asking this question in the news media? |
Response to cwydro (Reply #14)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:23 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
21. Because anybody with any sense
will not answer the question due to fifth amendment.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #2)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:22 PM
bravenak (34,648 posts)
7. Thank you!!
I wanna know that too.
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Response to bravenak (Reply #7)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:08 PM
cwydro (48,537 posts)
17. I also want to see their mugshots so
I know they were really booked.
The union will have them bailed immediately however. |
Response to cwydro (Reply #17)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:14 PM
bravenak (34,648 posts)
19. I wanna see their faces.
I gotta see the people who did this. I saw the bike cops but not a good look.
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Response to bravenak (Reply #19)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:24 PM
cwydro (48,537 posts)
22. I kinda laughed when I saw how "hefty" that one "bike cop" was.
Not to fat shame, but come on. So many overweight cops?
Steroids perhaps, or just plain doughnut eating idiots. I've taken the side of cops on this forum. I know cops...dated a few lol. But this Baltimore situation is so obviously wrong on every level. I find it very upsetting. I can only hope justice will prevail. But that won't bring Mr. Gray back. In my hometown, we have a cop coming up on charges for the killing of an unarmed black man. The trial starts in July. The police chief ( a black man) immediately threw the idiot off the force. I wonder what will happen. My sweetheart at the time (white female police officer) and I disagreed on this. Needless to say, we are not together anymore lol. Police violence is out of control. When the killers of Eric Garner got off, I pretty much gave up. Something has to change. But will it? |
Response to cwydro (Reply #22)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:27 PM
bravenak (34,648 posts)
23. I think it will change.
They have never been under this nation wide scrutiny and it comes in blue areas and red areas, so no one can say that simply voting will solve it. I think it's crunch time. People are planning to film cops everytime they see an interaction.
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Response to bravenak (Reply #23)
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:44 PM
cwydro (48,537 posts)
32. i'm waiting to see what happens with our local
killer cop.
He was a dog pound employee before he became a cop. Scary on so many levels. |
Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:12 PM
leveymg (36,418 posts)
3. The My Lai Massacre also had its defenders.
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:17 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
4. KKKop shops run just like the Mafia.
Right down to the code of silence.
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:18 PM
lpbk2713 (41,733 posts)
5. Meanwhile ... water remains wet.
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:24 PM
global1 (24,295 posts)
9. I Heard The Union Is Calling This A Rush To Judgement....
Shouldn't Freddie Gray's arresting cops be accused of a rush to judgement?
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:25 PM
Stinky The Clown (65,792 posts)
10. What would you have them do? Throw the cops over the wall?
That's what police "unions" do. That's essentially their sole purpose.
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:26 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
11. They are doing their job
and this is the setting the table for potential jurors
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:30 PM
Logical (22,457 posts)
12. If their job is to protect bad cops! Nt
Response to Logical (Reply #12)
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:34 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
13. That, as the Ford commercials used to say, is JOB #1
for police unions.
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Response to Logical (Reply #12)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:04 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
16. Yes, good and bad
they are to defend them from any and all liabilities
If the FOP did not, why bother paying dues? It is not just FOP where lawyers are there to do that job. In my mind it does not speak as to guilt or innocence, it speaks to SOP. |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #16)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:12 PM
Logical (22,457 posts)
18. I doubt the teachers union defends a teacher who beats the shit out of a student for no reason. nt
Response to Logical (Reply #18)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:21 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
20. Lawyers do what they do
these officers have been indicted, they have not been convicted. They are innocent until proven guilty In my mind they are guilty as can be, but they have a right to their day in court.
As to the teacher's union, if they have a lawyer on retainer, you betcha... it is part of why you pay fees as a union member. Locally we had a few officers go to jail, one to state prison, he has 4 years to go, for sexual assault. It got weird. The DA did the prosecution, and like Baltimore the CITY and the FOP lawyers had to defend the officers. Locally it is known as the POA for accuracy sake. This is the way the system works. By the way, I could not be part of the jury. As I said, in my mind they are guilty. But BEFORE the legal system, they deserve a muscular and good defense. (And they'd better get it, or the appeals if they get convicted will be very easy). |
Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:01 PM
cwydro (48,537 posts)
15. I found their statement to be confrontational.
They will find they've caused more problems.
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:50 PM
PowerToThePeople (9,610 posts)
24. You must remember, the Union is the cops.
Obviously, cops always will say cops did nothing wrong. Not a problem of the Union, it is what the union is supposed to do. The balance is the non-union management of the employees enforcing standards of conduct and disciplining per union contract.
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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #24)
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:43 PM
still_one (86,945 posts)
27. No it isn't what the union is supposed to do. As representatives of the police force they are NOT
the ones who decide if the police did something wrong or not, and by them making that comment, as representatives of the police, says exactly what is wrong with the police force.
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Response to still_one (Reply #27)
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:46 PM
PowerToThePeople (9,610 posts)
28. You are correct.
The Union are the cops though. If there is something wrong with how the cops view things, it will show in the actions of the Union.
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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #28)
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:01 PM
still_one (86,945 posts)
31. Thanks for the clarification
Response to still_one (Reply #27)
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:52 PM
chillfactor (7,110 posts)
30. agreed 100%...
that was a horrific mistake on the union's part and it really showed everyone why the culture of the Baltimore police is viewed as corrupt in the eyes of the public in their city....
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:37 PM
fadedrose (10,044 posts)
25. After seeing Freddie's picture on TV
so many times, and thinking to myself, what a handsome guy (I'm white and very old), but not dead.
I wonder if his main crime was being handsome while black. Maybe some of them are jealous. Maybe Freddie was popular with the ladies, maybe this, maybe that, but he was nice-looking. Also, maybe I'm wrong. |
Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:40 PM
still_one (86,945 posts)
26. That statement by the police union, before the facts are completely known, just demonstrate another
thing wrong with the police
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Response to fadedrose (Original post)
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:46 PM
etherealtruth (22,165 posts)
29. Listening to them was surreal
A healthy young man is dead ... one they apparently head no legitimate reason to detain ... and he is DEAD.
Someone did something effing wrong ... a healthy young mans spine does not spontaneously "sever" It is insulting and enraging to hear "they did nothing wrong" |