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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:31 PM May 2015

Do you think Bernie will run against Obama in the primary?

I'm not asking if he'll run in opposition to some of his policies, I think that's clear. Do you think he'll actively run against Barack Obama? I know it's a weird question, since Obama isn't running, but that doesn't change the fact he has a legacy. Does Bernie embrace that legacy or does he do a complete 180 from the President and actively go against his legacy - like the GOP will, but from the left?

Will he ignore Obama and focus on Hillary?

If he runs against Obama's legacy - do you think will be successful when Obama holds historic approval among Democrats? What do you think such a play could mean for black support - who remain extremely proud of the Obama presidency?

Do you think Bernie will disavow his ACA vote?

Can you be an Obama supporter and also support Bernie?

Right now, I'm leaning toward voting Bernie but must admit don't feel like his supporters even care to have my vote. That last question is the important one - can I still consider myself an Obama Democrat and vote for Bernie?

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Do you think Bernie will run against Obama in the primary? (Original Post) Drunken Irishman May 2015 OP
I don't think he'll focus on Hillary that much either. arcane1 May 2015 #1
I believe Bernie will run on what he wants to do, what his vision is, not "against" djean111 May 2015 #2
I think Bernie -- like most politicians -- will do whatever it takes to win, even damage the party. Hoyt May 2015 #3
I think Senator Sanders will run on policies, not against a person. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #4
Absolutely - he'll stick to the issues and policies to address them. polichick May 2015 #8
Bernie will go forward. underpants May 2015 #5
"Do you think Bernie will disavow his ACA vote?" gotj90 May 2015 #6
Answer to your last question : yes, you can. octoberlib May 2015 #7
yes stage left May 2015 #9
I think he's way too smart.. he can't alienate Obama supporters by dissing the President. Leave Cha May 2015 #10
"Leave that crap to his supporters on DU". Which makes one wonder, are they really "supporters"? Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #20
They're not very big picture.. more ego driven than anything, imo. Cha May 2015 #22
No. If anything he'll clearly explain the unprecedented obstruction... JaneyVee May 2015 #11
have you watched his interviews? he's running on issues magical thyme May 2015 #12
Who knows, he will probably try to tie Hillary and Obama together so perhaps he will have to run Thinkingabout May 2015 #13
"Can you be an Obama supporter and also support Bernie?" Scurrilous May 2015 #14
He'll criticize those actions of Obama that he thinks were wrong. morningfog May 2015 #15
Thanks for the replies, everyone... Drunken Irishman May 2015 #16
If he does he will alienate a lot of voters. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #17
Pretty sure Bernie will run against TPP and run against politicians who suckle Wall Street HereSince1628 May 2015 #18
I hope not! bobGandolf May 2015 #19
BIGGEST! MISTAKE! EVER! if he chooses to go that route. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #21
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. I don't think he'll focus on Hillary that much either.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:35 PM
May 2015

He's adopted a sort of "Let Hillary speak for herself, I have issues to discuss" approach so far. And it's pretty god-damned refreshing!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. I believe Bernie will run on what he wants to do, what his vision is, not "against"
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:36 PM
May 2015

Obama. Or do you think that wanting, say, Single Payer, is "running against Obama"?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I think Bernie -- like most politicians -- will do whatever it takes to win, even damage the party.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:37 PM
May 2015

They may start off with good intentions, but if they are down in the polls, they'll do all kinds of desperate crud in the hopes of moving up.

I'd say that about any candidate.

If Bernie can make us more like Scandinavian countries in my life-time, I'm all for it.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. I think Senator Sanders will run on policies, not against a person.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:40 PM
May 2015

If his policies, such as the TPP, are opposed to President Obama's stand, that doesn't mean he is running against the President.

I think he will continue to say that the ACA is a good bill but did not go far enough.

I support many of President Obama's policies. I oppose some of his policies. I prefer to look at politics through the lens of policy rather than root for a specific candidate.

underpants

(182,800 posts)
5. Bernie will go forward.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:43 PM
May 2015

Something like "President has done great but we can continue and do better".

I don't think he goes after Hillary. Bernie will harken back to the W years and become the lone voice (since the media won't) of the huge growth and changes that have been made since those dark days.

gotj90

(45 posts)
6. "Do you think Bernie will disavow his ACA vote?"
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:44 PM
May 2015

Bernie has consistently stood up for the ACA and his vote for it. He then goes on to talk about the need for single-payer.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
7. Answer to your last question : yes, you can.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:45 PM
May 2015

Bernie has said numerous times he's not going to run a negative campaign. We have a group if you'd like to join. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1280

stage left

(2,962 posts)
9. yes
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:52 PM
May 2015

You can be an Obama supporter and support Bernie as well. I support the President and I'm supporting Bernie. I can't see him running against anyone except the Bozos in the GOP clown car. Even there he will talk issues and not personalities. He may just run the most positive campaign we've seen in a long time.

Cha

(297,205 posts)
10. I think he's way too smart.. he can't alienate Obama supporters by dissing the President. Leave
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:54 PM
May 2015

that crap to his supporters on DU.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
11. No. If anything he'll clearly explain the unprecedented obstruction...
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:57 PM
May 2015

Obama has faced. And I'm sure he will take it to the Repubs while laying out his agenda.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
12. have you watched his interviews? he's running on issues
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:58 PM
May 2015

not "against" anybody. He is very adroit at deflecting 'gotcha' questions trying to pit him against Hillary. He'll do the same with any Obama questions. He simply sticks to the issues in a very clear way.

"...must admit don't feel like his supporters even care to have my vote."

Don't know where the above is coming from.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. Who knows, he will probably try to tie Hillary and Obama together so perhaps he will have to run
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:04 PM
May 2015

Against Obama.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
14. "Can you be an Obama supporter and also support Bernie?"
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:20 PM
May 2015

My gut says yes. I initially felt Hillary would be the best choice mostly because she's the safest, most pragmatic option. But a voice inside my head keeps saying, fuck that, go with the guy who speaks to you. Things are starting to get interesting...

BTW...this just landed in my inbox. From DNC 2016. I thought the DNC were the bad guys.











Then it links to this:

http://my.democrats.org/page/s/bernie-sanders

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. He'll criticize those actions of Obama that he thinks were wrong.
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:23 PM
May 2015

And he will commend and support him on those with which he agrees. It's not personal, it's about the issues and moving the country forward.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
16. Thanks for the replies, everyone...
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:29 PM
May 2015

I think Bernie and Obama have been on the same page far more than not. So, from my perspective, the leap to supporting Obama to Bernie isn't difficult.

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