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Sun May 3, 2015, 03:28 PM May 2015

Some of the Clinton Foundation's Recent Foreign Connections

On April 30, President Clinton visited the Solar Sister program site in Karatu town, Tanzania. Solar Sister is part of Sustainable Energy Solutions Powered by Women’s Enterprise, a Clinton Global Initiative Commitment to Action. Solar Sister connects women in Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, and Nigeria to training opportunities, and micro-financing groups to increase savings and investment. To date the Solar Sisters have trained 500 entrepreneurs, 300 of which were in Tanzania and as a result have 250,000 beneficiaries globally and for the commitment.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein / Clinton Foundation — in Tanzania.


President Clinton visited the Nainokanoka Dispensary in Ngorongoro, Tanzania. The Clinton Health Access Initiative is implementing programs to transport pneumonia and rotavirus vaccines to children in remote areas such as Ngorongoro.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


The Clinton Health Access Initiative's work has made pneumonia and rotavirus vaccines more affordable and ensured optimal vaccine delivery to children in Ngorongoro


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


At the Dispensary, he was greeted by health care workers who are able to deliver effective pneumonia and rotavirus vaccines to children due to proper cold chain and storage systems implemented by the Clinton Health Access Initiative.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein



Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


On April 29, President Clinton visited the Clinton Development Initiative’s Ngongwa Anchor Farm. He then visited Wazia Chawala and her son at their home. Wazia runs a CDI demonstration plot where she shows other members of the community the techniques that help her increase her output and improve her income


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


Otto Ulyate, the Field Operations Manager for the Ngongwa Anchor Farm, explains how no-till farming can reverse the damaging effects of years of soil compaction. This technique helps store rainwater and avoid runoff that can lead to erosion and lowered crop yields.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


President Clinton then stopped at the Mtitu School, which runs a demonstration plot as part of the Anchor Farm Project, and greeted smallholder farmers in the Lugalo Village.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


President Clinton visited the Clinton Development Initiative’s Ngongwa Anchor Farm. He was joined by smallholder farmers who are part of the Anchor Farm project and saw some of the equipment being used to plant and fertilize crops on the farm, which is part of the farm’s precision agriculture technology.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


On May 1, 2015, President Clinton and Chelsea Clinton went to a No Ceilings Conversation held at the Farasi Lane School in Mitini, Nairobi, Kenya. After touring the school with the principal, Madame Owaka, and seeing a lesson by a teacher, they visited the school's garden with two students, Gideon and Brenda, and heard about the different kinds of plants, herbs, and fruits that they grow.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


President Clinton and Chelsea Clinton first took a tour of the school, seeing a lesson by a teacher at the school.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


They took a tour of the school, saw the school’s garden, and participated in a conversation about women and girls’ education.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


The Farasi Lane School is part of a CGI Commitment to Action, CHARGE – Collaborative for Harnessing Ambition and Resources for Girls’ Education. CHARGE is a collaboration of more than 30 companies, civil society organizations, multilaterals and governments to improve learning and leadership opportunities for young women and girls.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


Chelsea Clinton visited the Outpatient Clinic of the Mbagathi District Hospital to view the work of the Clinton Health Access Initiative in promoting Zinc/ORS to treat diarrhea. Chelsea visited the clinic's pharmacy, where the pharmacist showed her the clinic's stock of Zinc/ORS co-pack and explained how the treatment is dispensed to mothers.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


Chelsea visited the pediatric in-patient ward where children with severe dehydration are admitted and treated.


Photo by Max W. Orenstein



On May 3, 2015, President Bill Clinton & Chelsea Clinton visited Clinton Foundation projects & partners in Africa, including National Agricultural Research Laboratories (NARL) centre, a Starkey Hearing Foundation event at the Savelberg Retreat Centre, the Wings to Fly program’s annual Leadership Congress, and the American Embassy Memorial Garden, in Nairobi, Kenya.




Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


President Clinton and Chelsea Clinton joined over 5,000 secondary school scholars at the Wings to Fly program’s annual Leadership Congress. The Wings to Fly program is part of the Clinton Global Initiative commitment “Investing in Kenyan Youth and Women.” This commitment, launched in 2010 by Equity Bank Limited and the MasterCard Foundation, awards scholarships for school fees, uniforms, supplies, transport, and other needs to low-income young women and men so that they can afford secondary schooling in Kenya.






Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


President Clinton and Chelsea Clinton participated in a hearing aid fitting event held by the Starkey Hearing Foundation at the Savelberg Retreat Centre in Nairobi, Kenya. Starkey Hearing Foundation conducts hearing missions in the United States and around the globe to bring the gift of hearing to those who would otherwise live in the isolation of a silent world. As a member of the Clinton Global Initiative, Starkey Hearing Foundation has pledged to fit more than one million hearing aids to people in need this decade.




Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


President Clinton and Chelsea Clinton traveled to the National Agricultural Research Laboratories (NARL) centre in Nairobi, where they received a briefing on the System for Land-based Emissions Estimation in Kenya (SLEEK) program, part of the Clinton Climate Initiative. The SLEEK program is collecting millions of data points on soil, forest, land cover, and climate. At the visit, experts talked about how SLEEK brings these data points together in a way that can inform national policies and landholders in a way that is user-friendly and informative.


Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein



Photo credit: Max W. Orenstein


Clinton Foundation in Africa (ongoing)

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Some of the Clinton Foundation's Recent Foreign Connections (Original Post) bigtree May 2015 OP
He's a monster. sufrommich May 2015 #1
Bill is very successful at everthing he does, he has a big Heart!! lewebley3 May 2015 #11
Isn't it ASTOUNDING!!! MADem May 2015 #62
But, but, he has to take money from rich people to do such good work. leftofcool May 2015 #2
Agree, where do Sanders followers think money comes from. The sky! lewebley3 May 2015 #13
Thank you Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #3
Agree, I think the Sanders supporters attacking other Dem's that support Hillary! lewebley3 May 2015 #12
is there a comment there? orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #27
We don't need to "attack". We just post the truth about Bernie. L0oniX May 2015 #50
No, you don't: Hillary is not a corporatist: She a liberal Dem: lewebley3 May 2015 #66
* L0oniX May 2015 #67
Nice pics. Agschmid May 2015 #4
I am a Bernie supporter and in answer to all three replies so far: this is a beautiful reply. jwirr May 2015 #5
Truly wonderful work. You know, I didn't even think of how significant a hearing aid would be okaawhatever May 2015 #6
k&r... spanone May 2015 #7
Thanks. IMHO the smear is Rove 101: Attack your opponent's strengths emulatorloo May 2015 #8
Yup. Agschmid May 2015 #14
Bill was one of the coolest politicians I've ever had the opportunity to meet. NotoriousRBG May 2015 #9
These are some pictures of really good programs to help those who needs help Thinkingabout May 2015 #10
Actually, if you look closely, the little boys Bill is shaking hands with joeybee12 May 2015 #15
The Clintons are just like the Kochs!1 Metric System May 2015 #16
Totes. PeaceNikki May 2015 #23
Love this OP. Thank you so much. Autumn May 2015 #17
Here's some more ... Scuba May 2015 #18
uh huh. THAT money went towards the causes featured in the OP wyldwolf May 2015 #20
Did you note the part about how much dough these countries give to other charities? Scuba May 2015 #39
I don't care. wyldwolf May 2015 #41
So you just can't imagine that there's a quid pro quo? Scuba May 2015 #43
I can 'imagine' a lot. I just choose to stay grounded in reality. wyldwolf May 2015 #44
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. Scuba May 2015 #45
DU has a forum for you. 'Creative Speculation.' wyldwolf May 2015 #48
Deniability isn't just the NAME of the game. Bonobo May 2015 #53
Blatant lie. Worst part. You know it is. NCTraveler May 2015 #56
Not a lie, blatant or otherwise ... Scuba May 2015 #57
Blatant lie. Your link doesn't back up your claim. NCTraveler May 2015 #59
I quoted from the link. Your idolization seems to be blinding you. Scuba May 2015 #60
It's not idolization to recognize Swiftboating when we see it. By the same logic you use.... Hekate May 2015 #70
You still pretend to not get it. It's not about taking the money, it's about the quid pro quo. Scuba May 2015 #71
I get it all right: yet another book smearing the Clintons has proven to be utterly false. .... Hekate May 2015 #72
We're anti-corruption. Scuba May 2015 #73
How is purveying falsehoods even FOX won't touch being against corruption? Hekate May 2015 #75
You saying the CGI didn't take the money? Scuba May 2015 #76
Why would I do that? It's good that the Foundation has money. It's you who are claiming ... Hekate May 2015 #80
I did not say there was a quid pro quo. There certainly is the appearance of one though. Scuba May 2015 #81
YOUR posts, number 43 and 71. You made the accusation twice. Hekate May 2015 #82
Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit. I did not make such an accusation. Scuba May 2015 #89
What a shame to fall back on insult when you cannot prove your point with facts. nt Hekate May 2015 #90
I'd be more impressed if a larger percentage went to the hungry and the sick OnlinePoker May 2015 #78
I'm certain you would be. wyldwolf May 2015 #79
Do the salaries include money paid Sanity Claws May 2015 #97
So what? All Bush did was paint a picture of a dog! Major Hogwash May 2015 #21
I love this response. hrmjustin May 2015 #29
So typical.... OKNancy May 2015 #25
Answer.. "no, they can't".. they've done it for 7 years with President Obama and will continue Cha May 2015 #34
Did you note the part about how much dough these countries give to other charities? Scuba May 2015 #42
Great news they were willing to give the foundation that much to do good with. NCTraveler May 2015 #55
You're in denial about the lack of a quid pro quo. Scuba May 2015 #58
Senator Sanders accepted contributions to his Senate campaign from the PAC of his friend of 25 years MADem May 2015 #64
do you buy gas? dsc May 2015 #83
Looks nefarious and sinister to me. wyldwolf May 2015 #19
I think the Clinton Foundation, and Bill Clinton himself, are doing a lot of good... kentuck May 2015 #22
It's not unseemly. Only in the minds of people who want to find something bad. OKNancy May 2015 #26
It might look... kentuck May 2015 #37
Great work! Hillary and Bill could do a lot of good with their foundation if they stuck JDPriestly May 2015 #24
many wealthy people do good works OKNancy May 2015 #28
And that is wonderful, but it is also a challenge to our democratic government, when JDPriestly May 2015 #46
I think you explained it fine. F4lconF16 May 2015 #31
Well like Willie Sutton said... Historic NY May 2015 #38
That aspect is commendable. But did you read about my experience in fundraising? JDPriestly May 2015 #40
Um don't most foundations get funded by wealthy donors? Dream Girl May 2015 #51
It's a DU conundrum that some here believe pure-souled Democrats should live in sackcloth & ashes Hekate May 2015 #87
K&R! hrmjustin May 2015 #30
K&R Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #32
ooohhhhh! "foreign".. bad! Ha! Good on this Foundation in Africa.. mahalo bigtree. Cha May 2015 #33
American Embassy Memorial Garden, in Nairobi, Kenya. ... Historic NY May 2015 #35
K&R. It's utterly insane that 95% of the posts on DU about the Clinton foundation are negative. DanTex May 2015 #36
Charity is wonderful. But we need these wealthy people to pay living wages around the JDPriestly May 2015 #49
I'll say this and I'll say if plain and simple madokie May 2015 #47
Bill's a peach bigtree May 2015 #52
All attacks on the Clinton Foundations donor list is a right-wing hit job. NCTraveler May 2015 #54
That's pretty much a foregone conclusion. It's such a ham-handed effort that even the GOP MADem May 2015 #65
I have to ask myself why the hell... Hekate May 2015 #68
It's a fair question. MADem May 2015 #84
He'll make a very nice "first" first gentleman. ffr May 2015 #61
k and r niyad May 2015 #63
All 3 of the Clintons do us proud. Thanks so much for this beautiful post. nt Hekate May 2015 #69
This post should get hundres of recs! ucrdem May 2015 #74
For the childrens' sake chapdrum May 2015 #77
Such concern. How touching. nt MADem May 2015 #85
"Such concern" chapdrum May 2015 #91
And your proof of these nefarious schemes...? MADem May 2015 #92
here it is chapdrum May 2015 #93
What you just tried to do is uncivil and borders on something much worse. MADem May 2015 #94
Research can be done chapdrum May 2015 #98
You are shopping false assertions. That's against the TOS here. MADem May 2015 #103
Lol! zappaman May 2015 #95
K & R SunSeeker May 2015 #86
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2015 #88
Amazing how some people just HAD to come shit on this thread. zappaman May 2015 #96
please. it's a total bullshit overkill photo op thread that doesn't prove anything. m-lekktor May 2015 #100
No, it's showing the good these people do. zappaman May 2015 #101
knr! secondwind May 2015 #99
The Clinton Foundation has done some amazing work and have helped a large number of people Gothmog May 2015 #102
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
11. Bill is very successful at everthing he does, he has a big Heart!!
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:19 PM
May 2015



Bill gets things done, he just doesn't just talk about the poor he helps them!!

(so dose Carter too)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
62. Isn't it ASTOUNDING!!!
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:23 PM
May 2015

Someone can write a shitty, mean, "piece of shit" or "Turd Way" accusatory post, and get hundreds of recs in seconds from hating cheerleaders, but when presented with photographic evidence of a foundation doing really important work that is obviously benefitting people who aren't just "needy," but who are barely at the edges of survival, at those grassroots people like to holler about, and we're not even to fifty yet?

Makes me wonder...!

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. But, but, he has to take money from rich people to do such good work.
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:32 PM
May 2015

How dare he rob from the rich to give to the poor!

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
13. Agree, where do Sanders followers think money comes from. The sky!
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015



It should warm their heart that so many rich people are kind enough
to help the Clintons with the poor!

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
3. Thank you
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:45 PM
May 2015

This post is drowning in a sea of innuendo, distortion, lies. Apparently people must dehumanize Clinton to uplift another candidate.

They are doing such good work for our planet.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
12. Agree, I think the Sanders supporters attacking other Dem's that support Hillary!
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:21 PM
May 2015

This board should be for all Dem's, not just for Sanders followers, they
should go and work on his campaign, and talk to each other
on his Web site.
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
66. No, you don't: Hillary is not a corporatist: She a liberal Dem:
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:29 PM
May 2015



And she is more qualified and accomplished in working for the America people, than
Bernie: if you put their resumes side by side, Hillary is the one for the job!
!


Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
4. Nice pics.
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:48 PM
May 2015

I think the line of attack is a waste.

Again I'm not going to support my candidate by tearing down someone else. I refuse to.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
6. Truly wonderful work. You know, I didn't even think of how significant a hearing aid would be
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:02 PM
May 2015

to someone in need. We always think of the basics, food, shelter, education, but a hearing aid would remarkably change the life of someone who hadn't had one.

emulatorloo

(44,046 posts)
8. Thanks. IMHO the smear is Rove 101: Attack your opponent's strengths
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:09 PM
May 2015

It is Swiftboating. It is unfortunate to see it being promoted on DU.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. These are some pictures of really good programs to help those who needs help
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:16 PM
May 2015

This requires great investments and work to place projects where there is good results.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
15. Actually, if you look closely, the little boys Bill is shaking hands with
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:26 PM
May 2015

are both hand him twenties...there is no end to the Clinton evil!!!!

Do I need this? I better before someone here agrees with what I just wrote.



KNR

Autumn

(44,958 posts)
17. Love this OP. Thank you so much.
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:36 PM
May 2015

My opinion is that the Clinton Foundation is where they really shine.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
18. Here's some more ...
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:45 PM
May 2015

Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/04/06/262201/arab-nations-donations-to-clinton.html

Since 2001, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates gave as much as $40 million to the Clinton Foundation.



Saudi Arabia -
By AFP2:33PM GMT 16 Mar 2015

Steep rise in Saudi Arabia executions as 2015 tally reaches 45
The Gulf kingdom has executed 80 people annually since 2011, with 87 recorded in 2014


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11475267/Steep-rise-in-Saudi-Arabia-executions-as-2015-tally-reaches-45.html

Oman

Women continue to be discriminated against in the Personal Status Law that governs family law in matters of divorce, inheritance, child custody, and legal guardianship, granting men privileged status in these matters.


http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/oman?page=3

Qatar

Workers typically pay exorbitant recruitment fees and employers regularly take control of their passports when they arrive in Qatar. The kafala (sponsorship) system ties a migrant worker’s legal residence to his or her employer, or sponsor. Migrant workers commonly complain that employers fail to pay their wages on time if at all, but are barred from changing jobs without their sponsoring employer’s consent other than in exceptional cases and with express permission of the Interior Ministry. Adding to their vulnerability, they must obtain an exit visa from their sponsor in order to leave Qatar. Migrant workers are prohibited from unionizing or engaging in strikes, although they make up 99 percent of the private sector workforce.


http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/qatar

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) continues to crack down on freedom of expression and association. The authorities are arbitrarily detaining scores of individuals they suspect of links to domestic and international Islamist groups. A court convicted 69 dissidents in July after a manifestly unfair trial, in which evidence emerged of systematic torture at state security facilities. The UAE made no reforms to a system that facilitates the forced labor of migrant workers. Plans to ameliorate conditions for female domestic workers fall short of the standards outlined in the convention on domestic workers that the International Labour Organization (ILO) adopted in 2012.


http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/united-arab-emirates

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
20. uh huh. THAT money went towards the causes featured in the OP
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:49 PM
May 2015

And before you ask, no, I don't care WHERE the money comes from that feeds the hungry and cures the sick.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
39. Did you note the part about how much dough these countries give to other charities?
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:32 PM
May 2015

Nada. Kinda makes you wonder what's so special about the Clinton Foundation.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
41. I don't care.
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:34 PM
May 2015


Bill is more persuasive. Carries more weight than any right wing innuendo you can produce.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
56. Blatant lie. Worst part. You know it is.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:43 AM
May 2015

"Did you note the part about how much dough these countries give to other charities? Nada."

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
57. Not a lie, blatant or otherwise ...
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:02 AM
May 2015
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/04/06/262201/arab-nations-donations-to-clinton.html

Since 2001, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates gave as much as $40 million to the Clinton Foundation. In contrast, six similar non-governmental global charities collected no money from those same four Middle Eastern countries
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
59. Blatant lie. Your link doesn't back up your claim.
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:27 AM
May 2015

You are in complete denial. Your hatred is blinding you.

Hekate

(90,497 posts)
70. It's not idolization to recognize Swiftboating when we see it. By the same logic you use....
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:02 PM
May 2015

...nobody who abhors militarized police departments who randomly kill black men should take a penny of US money -- yet they do.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
71. You still pretend to not get it. It's not about taking the money, it's about the quid pro quo.
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:20 PM
May 2015

Hekate

(90,497 posts)
72. I get it all right: yet another book smearing the Clintons has proven to be utterly false. ....
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:07 PM
May 2015

It has to be pretty filthy for even FOX to admit there is no there there. There is no quid quo pro.

What I don't understand is why a group of DUers is so eager to purvey this falsehood at a Democratic site. Can you help me out with that part?

Hekate

(90,497 posts)
80. Why would I do that? It's good that the Foundation has money. It's you who are claiming ...
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:43 PM
May 2015

....corruption and quid pro quo, and none of those charges has held up to scrutiny. Those are unsubstantiated charges emanating from the Right, and you are bringing them here and insisting they have substance.

Why would you do that?

None of the timelines hold up. None of the "charges" hold up.

All you have, frankly, is an international family-run charity using their influence to raise a ton of money from states that have a ton of money they can be persuaded to part with; and the charity spends that money doing works that benefit humanity.

Presidents used to spend their twilight years playing golf. Bush Sr seems to have spent his time massaging his money and power until senility took over. Dubya does amateur paintings of himself trying to wash off the blood, while the BFEE ticks right along, and yes he plays golf. Now another Bush brother is running for POTUS, and DU has been remarkably quiet about him and his family.

Why is that? The Bushes are demonstrably corrupt. The Bushes have a demonstrable record of quid pro quo benefiting themselves personally. Whatever good Bill and Bush Sr did together hardly begins to counterbalance the BFEE.

Yet what we get here is the smearing of the Clintons, all three of them, for taking donations from entities that can well afford to give donations, and then using that money creatively to benefit humanity. Charges don't hold up. Timelines don't hold up.

The Bush Family was so close to the Family of Saud that they helped members of that family to leave the U.S. quietly in the days after 9-11 when no one else was allowed to fly; there's at least one photo of Dubya walking hand in hand with Prince Bandar, who was so close in the Bush Family that Barbara calls him Bandar Bush.

Tell us some more about Jeb, why don't you? There is a deep deep pile of manure to dig through, and all of it true.

Hekate

(90,497 posts)
82. YOUR posts, number 43 and 71. You made the accusation twice.
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:04 PM
May 2015

Last edited Tue May 5, 2015, 02:47 AM - Edit history (1)

You going to edit that now?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
89. Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit. I did not make such an accusation.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:51 AM
May 2015
“Out of abundance of caution and a desire to avoid even the appearance … of a conflict,” Clinton said ...


http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0503-mcmanus-clinton-foundation-20150503-column.html



OnlinePoker

(5,715 posts)
78. I'd be more impressed if a larger percentage went to the hungry and the sick
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:04 PM
May 2015

In 2013, revenue was $294 million. Direct program expenditures was $29.4 million. Meanwhile salaries/benefits and travel expenses came in at $78.9 million and $16.7 million respectively. $72 million was added to the net assets at the end of the year to bring that total to $288 million.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinton_foundation_report_public_11-19-14.pdf

Sanity Claws

(21,836 posts)
97. Do the salaries include money paid
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:54 PM
May 2015

To the workers abroad? I imagine it does and those salaries are a boon not only to the worker but also to the people who receive their services.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
21. So what? All Bush did was paint a picture of a dog!
Sun May 3, 2015, 05:06 PM
May 2015

And a self portrait of him in the shower!

OMG! He's another Picasso!

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
25. So typical....
Sun May 3, 2015, 05:44 PM
May 2015

really, can't you or your cohorts just pass up a thread that is positive?
No, you have to take a dump on a nice thread about a good person doing some really good works.

Cha

(296,687 posts)
34. Answer.. "no, they can't".. they've done it for 7 years with President Obama and will continue
Sun May 3, 2015, 06:18 PM
May 2015

with Hillary.

Whomever wins the Dem Primary will want the President to campaign with them and for them.. that should really piss them off.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
42. Did you note the part about how much dough these countries give to other charities?
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:34 PM
May 2015

Nada. Kinda makes one wonder, or at least it should, what's so special about the Clinton Foundation.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
55. Great news they were willing to give the foundation that much to do good with.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:42 AM
May 2015

Clinton is so influential. That money is so much better spent in the hands of Clinton. Great emphasis on his amazing influence. Thanks.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
64. Senator Sanders accepted contributions to his Senate campaign from the PAC of his friend of 25 years
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:48 PM
May 2015

Yes, HILLPAC (the HILL is for Hillary, BTW) donated to his Senate campaign.

But wait....isn't she ... gasp!!! The ENEMEEEEEEEEEE?





If money can be put to good use, helping people, why shouldn't it?


And if you want to cry about executions and shitty pay, look homeward, angel. We pay people poverty wages that haven't kept pace with inflation at all, and we still have the death penalty in USA. The only difference is, we torture them with chemicals before we "put them down." Iran hangs HUNDREDS every year, for unfair, outrageous shit, like being gay or getting pregnant after a rape, and we are trying to make a deal with them. Should we stop, because of the DP? How about Cuba? They still have a DP law on their books for drug smugglers--should we cease trying to normalize for this reason?

I'll bet you're typing your huffy, sanctimonious "How DARE he?" post on a computer made in China, where they don't even RECORD all the people they imprison and kill. Maybe you should get everything "made in China" out of your house, because, you know, UNCLEAN, TAINTED!!!! and all...and you want to see shitty worker practices--why do they put "suicide nets" outside of the prison-dorms they keep the workers in? Now those are shitty working conditions....did those poor people make YOUR cellphone or chomputer, hmmmm? You need to practice what you preach!!! Get busy, now--cellphone, TV, computer, tablet... anything Made In China needs to GO!



Let he who is without sin, and all that.

Not buying your vague arguments AT ALL.

kentuck

(111,037 posts)
22. I think the Clinton Foundation, and Bill Clinton himself, are doing a lot of good...
Sun May 3, 2015, 05:19 PM
May 2015

...human and Christian deeds around the world, especially in Africa.

However, it is somehow different when Bill Clinton makes $150 million personal gain, since he got out of office, than if he were a Republican? How one makes or spends his money is usually of little significance to the average Republican.

How much is kept and how much is spent are legitimate questions, when operating a tax-exempt 501C, in my opinion. The same goes for political contributions and expenditures. It applies to both Democrats and Republicans and everyone else. If the law says that 50% of your expenditures must be spent on charitable work, then that is the law. If you break that law, you have no standing to holler about being investigated by the IRS.

Unfortunately, Hillary cannot separate herself from the Clinton Foundation or the political contributions as if it were something entirely different. It's all perfectly legal, however unseemly it might look?

But the Congress refuses to fix the law. The Koch Brothers are reportedly going to spend a Billion Dollars on chosen Republicans in the next election. What Hillary is doing is simply an extension, out of necessity, of what the Koch Brothers are doing. Do the Koch Brothers make any profits overseas? I would not know?

However, the Citizens United decision said that money was "free speech". There were no limits whatever. Until the law is fixed, the Democrats will do what they have to do to compete with the big spending, "free speech" Republicans...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. Great work! Hillary and Bill could do a lot of good with their foundation if they stuck
Sun May 3, 2015, 05:29 PM
May 2015

to doing the foundation work.

But their foundation relies on donations from extremely wealthy people to do that good work.

And that is where a problem arises if we want to get big money, the money of wealth and influence out of our government and have a government that governs for all of us.

It is very difficult to go to wealthy people for money and then turn around and speak out for some cause or law that the wealthy people do not want.

I worked in fundraising for eight years. I know all about the influence that wealthy people and their money can have on you when you go out begging for donations for good causes.

I left fundraising when I caught myself going down my list of friends and categorizing them according to whether they were rich enough to give a sizable donation to the homeless project I worked on. I realized at that point that somehow the need to fund the project was causing me to place the value of wealth, my need for money, above the value of human qualities. I'm not sure many will understand what I mean by this.

But to put it another way, I felt that I might be beginning to "suck up" to people who had money because I needed their money for the project that I and others were working together on. I felt that I was developing discrimination against old friends just because they were not wealthy. I'm exaggerating a bit, but some will understand what I mean.

When you try to raise money from the wealthy, you begin to spend a lot of time with them. You think about entertaining them according to their tastes. They invite you for lunch at their clubs, etc. and if you do enough of that, you lose the sense of the value of people who are middle class and poor and you lose touch with life outside the elite clubs. You go home to your modest house and life and you feel poor.

I don't think I can explain this well.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
46. And that is wonderful, but it is also a challenge to our democratic government, when
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:38 PM
May 2015

a few rich people decide what should be done by donating their money. It is best when the many decide what should be done and have the money to do it through their political choices.

Foundations are great. They are important because they can bring to our attention things we should do that we otherwise would not do. Certainly the Clinton and Carter foundations are organizations that set good examples in that area.

But there is a huge danger when wealth is as concentrated as it is today and the wealthy, not ordinary people, have the overwhelming say about what happens in terms of social welfare projects.

Remember, some of the same people who love to give to these kinds of charitable projects despise Social Security and think we should all somehow through magic take care of ourselves and save our retirement money in the stock market. Remember that in many cases, these extremely wealthy people are paying some or many of their employees minimum wage -- unlivable wages -- in the US or where they have the companies that make their money for them.

Some of the things done by private foundations can be done best by private foundations, but some are far better accomplished by government programs.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
38. Well like Willie Sutton said...
Sun May 3, 2015, 06:26 PM
May 2015

he robbed banks because that is where the money is... I look at it a them putting the arm on the haves to help the have nots.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
40. That aspect is commendable. But did you read about my experience in fundraising?
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:33 PM
May 2015

It has two sides. We have too many fundraisers and too few real representatives in our government. Hillary will be yet another fundraiser. I've done that work, I know what it means for one's values. It challenges them big-time.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
51. Um don't most foundations get funded by wealthy donors?
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:54 PM
May 2015

Where. Is the money supposed to come from? The clintons are using their power and influence to do some good in the world. I see nothing wrong with that.

Hekate

(90,497 posts)
87. It's a DU conundrum that some here believe pure-souled Democrats should live in sackcloth & ashes
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:20 AM
May 2015

They should be poor when they run for office, and finance their campaigns solely off $20 donors.

They should be poor when they leave high office, and never take high-dollar speaking fees.

They should devote their lives to good works after leaving office, but never utilize the influence of their former time in office to persuade people, businesses, or countries who are not pure-minded to give them large sums of money to do their good works -- instead they should once again rely solely on $20 donors.

After all, I'm sure that's how the Jimmy and Roslyn Carter Foundation is managing to eradicate the scourge of Guinea Worm in Africa: no tainted petrodollars for them! Nothing but crumpled ones and twenties from the sweat-stained pockets of po' folk here in the USA.

I'm being more than a little sarcastic, but I have experienced too many rants from alleged Dems here along those lines.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
35. American Embassy Memorial Garden, in Nairobi, Kenya. ...
Sun May 3, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015

is on the site of the embassy that was destroyed in 1998 killed 200 people in 1998 in a terrorist attack.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
36. K&R. It's utterly insane that 95% of the posts on DU about the Clinton foundation are negative.
Sun May 3, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015

On a supposedly Democratic message board!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
49. Charity is wonderful. But we need these wealthy people to pay living wages around the
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:41 PM
May 2015

world where they earn their money. That would do a lot to give people the opportunity to take care of themselves and build their societies according to the will of the people.

I'm all for what the Clinton Foundation does, but in general, we need higher wages in the world and people strengthened by those living wages to help themselves and their neighbors. Goes for the US too.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
47. I'll say this and I'll say if plain and simple
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:40 PM
May 2015

Bill Clinton is loved by many millions of people through out this world and its for a reason and that reason is he has a kind heart. He loves people no matter who they are. He makes me Proud to be a supporter of his.

Thanks for the OP.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
54. All attacks on the Clinton Foundations donor list is a right-wing hit job.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:38 AM
May 2015

Including the posters here who have done so. It is blatantly clear. They have done the same thing to Carter and he isn't even up for election. They like to reference him as Jimmy Jihad Carter. Nut jobs are doing the same thing to Clinton. So much of it boils down to racism. Look at the brown people who have given him money. He must be bad. Their names sound like terrorist. It must be bad.

What an amazingly great yet flawed man.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
65. That's pretty much a foregone conclusion. It's such a ham-handed effort that even the GOP
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:54 PM
May 2015

loudmouths won't touch it with a ten foot pole. Everyone knows that the foundation uses almost no money to operate--they put the dough where it is needed, they cut out middlemen, and they work their donations for the maximum results. This has been covered over and over again since that Hit Piece book came out--even the CEO of Wingnut NEWSMAX put out a disclaimer calling the accusations complete bullshit. When NEWSMAX fails to try to capitalize on a Big Fat Honking Lie, you know it's got to stink on ice.

You've got to ask yourself, is it complete cluelessness, or is it a hubris of invincibility that people can say this kind of ugly shit and not think that their reputations will be forever marred by being associated with such dumb-ass, completely untrue hate speech?

Hekate

(90,497 posts)
68. I have to ask myself why the hell...
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:52 PM
May 2015

...people are allowed to peddle that shit here? You know it's a lie. I know it's a lie. So why is it left to lie in the road here and rot?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
84. It's a fair question.
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:01 AM
May 2015

And your assessment is right on the mark.

All I can say is, given a bit of time passing, some people are going to be eating their words that are rotting in that very road right now--probably won't be a very tasty dish.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
61. He'll make a very nice "first" first gentleman.
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015

He does more good in a week than any GOPer does in a lifetime.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
74. This post should get hundres of recs!
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:23 PM
May 2015


p.s. if there's a Pulitzer prize for DUzys this one deserves it.
 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
77. For the childrens' sake
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:45 PM
May 2015

I hope they are receiving what Clinton apparently intends.
I do recall, though, seeing Bill in Haiti after the most recent quake there, with the
inestimable Dubya in tow. With Bill's clout and ostensible intact reputation, I'd
think he wouldn't let the Sedition King within 50 feet of him.
But there they were.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
91. "Such concern"
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:09 PM
May 2015

as the American people (are allowed to) evince over the destruction wrought by W and his pals.
Chelsea Clinton is on board with (billionaire) Pete Peterson's plan to privatize Social Security, so it's all good, see?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
92. And your proof of these nefarious schemes...?
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:23 PM
May 2015
"Chelsea Clinton's gonna take away our jerbs..... errrr.....social security!!!!"


Please. You're not the least bit subtle.

Oh, welcome to DU.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
94. What you just tried to do is uncivil and borders on something much worse.
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:32 PM
May 2015

Your link doesn't "prove" any of the accusations you made. Your link goes to this:


Up to Us, a project from the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, Clinton Global Initiative University (CGI U), and Net Impact, today announced its panel of judges for this year's college campus competition. The 2014 panel includes:
Chelsea Clinton: Vice Chair of the Clinton Foundation
Sen. Kent Conrad: former United States Senator and former Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee
Betty Liu: journalist and anchor of Bloomberg Television’s "In the Loop"
Sen. Olympia Snowe: former United States Senator, Senior fellow at the Bipartisan Policy Center
George Stephanopoulos: anchor of ABC‘s “This Week” and “Good Morning America"
Student teams from 23 colleges and universities are running five-week campaigns designed to educate and engage their peers on the effects of the nation’s rising debt, and to motivate Washington to act on fiscal issues. Find out more about today's Up to Us announcement here.


You're trying to claim that Chelsea Clinton, by judging a college competition where teams of students take on projects, is somehow, while so doing, getting rid of Social Security is LAUGHABLE.

You really should be ashamed of yourself--and I hope more people here soon have your number.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
98. Research can be done
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:43 PM
May 2015

if one is interested. You are not.
If memory serves, I read the item about C.C. in Jim Hightower's newsletter.
Foundations (and the two here) find common ground amongst themselves; it's common practice. Good sense, too.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
103. You are shopping false assertions. That's against the TOS here.
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

What you've done is try to distract--you haven't proven a word you've said.

Either link - an actual link, not a list of people judging a contest -- or slink. Obviously your memory doesn't serve, if you confuse a college student contest judging with pronouncements re: social security.

Don't even try to tell me what I'm interested in--I'm interested in the truth, and you haven't provided any to this point.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
100. please. it's a total bullshit overkill photo op thread that doesn't prove anything.
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:18 AM
May 2015

I am sure many more people are wanting to comment on this appeal to emotion propaganda but just moved on like i probably should have done!

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
101. No, it's showing the good these people do.
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:53 AM
May 2015

Why Democrats would shit on people doing good is beyond me.
Guess the hate just gets in the way, eh?

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