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[House of Roberts]

1. Rove knew Romney was going to win too.

Besides, Rovian tactics are to attack an opponent's strengths, more than point to weaknesses.

[wyldwolf]

2. Karl Rove, a GOP poll, and Newsmax. Scraping the bottom of the muck, are we?

[JaneyVee]

6. I don't think we've seen the bottom just yet.

[hrmjustin]

11. Glad to see you back.

[Beacool]

45. It's about Hillary.

Therefore, anything is acceptable. Now try to post similar garbage about Warren or Sanders, and then see what kind of reaction it gets.

[joeybee12]

3. You should post this with some context...quite a few people here

would post this to gloat.

[JaneyVee]

4. LOL.

This place

[Agnosticsherbet]

5. Newsmax is our version of The Reichs Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda aka

RMVP or Propagandaministerium.

I don't think Turd Blossom would know his own asshole if he stuck his nose in it.

[JI7]

7. really ? newsmax ?

[AZ Progressive]

19. Just showing that they are doing their research

[hrmjustin]

8. And you decided to bring that garbage here!

[Gman]

13. Because it's Hillary, of course.

Hillary haters did exactly the same thing in 2008 here pretty much with impunity.

[hrmjustin]

15. If we did this with Sanders they would be gnashing of teeth on DU.

But as you said it is Hillary and she doesn't count to some here.

[wyldwolf]

16. I say we pick a day and all act like they do.

[hrmjustin]

17. Lol I doubt it will change this kind of behavior.

[JaneyVee]

26. Some already gnash their teeth over any concern.

DO NOT QUESTION THE BERNIE!

[hrmjustin]

29. If we used newsmax against Sanders we would he called Dino.

[pipoman]

21. Doesn't it concern you just a bit

That there are so many "Hillary haters" right here on Democratic Underground? I mean wouldn't it be helpful to have a candidate without a train load of baggage?

[wyldwolf]

25. Not in the least.

We also had a bunch of Dean, Kerry, Clark, Edwards and Obama haters.

[JaneyVee]

28. I love Bernie, but there is no bigger "baggage" in America than...

Calling yourself a Socialist.

[geek tragedy]

40. Her ability to draw the hatred of trolls is of little concern .

The OP hates not only Clinton, not only Obama, but also their supporters.

And then pines for the segregation-supporting Democrats of old.

[Beacool]

48. DU is as much a reflection of the real world as is Free Republic.

Neither site reflects the majority of voters of their respective party. They are both in the fringes.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

52. Why is this complete garbage, this total and complete BULLSHIT here at DU?

[hrmjustin]

55. Great question.

This is just wrong.

[still_one]

9. News max, a Murdock junk paper who regularly quotes dick Morris who predicted romney

winning against Obama, which incidentally Mr Rove one of the most discpiciple republican hacks predicted also

That is what we need right wing papers quoting right wing hacks, and portraying them as credible

Maybe you can give credibility to Dick Cheney while you are at it

[Cha]

10. More rw crap from anti-Hillary people. Freaking trend.

[hrmjustin]

14. Amazing how some dislikebher so much that they are willing to bring rw garbage here

to trash her.

It is a trend.

[Gman]

12. Push polling

Which assumes they control the message.

[AZ Progressive]

18. So you guys think they pay for fake polls and do them just to impress RWers?

Or you don't believe they would do actual polling for strategic purposes?

Don't have your head in the sand.

[hrmjustin]

20. Posting RW garbage is against the rules.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

54. NO Bernie supporter would EVER use these sources EVER

[wyldwolf]

22. yeah, we actually do believe they do fake polls. Heavily biased.

I mean, unless you can find a real poll that mirrors the results.

[AZ Progressive]

27. I'd rather believe in reality that they would do actual research to figure out Hillary's weaknesses

Rather than live in la la land.

[wyldwolf]

30. uh, yeah, someone who takes Karl Rove at his word is lecturing about research and reality.

[geek tragedy]

44. What kind of idiot cares what Karl "the math" T

Rove thinks? He wasted $400 million in races in 2012, with a 0% success rate. And humiliated himself on election eve.

And predicted Republican victory in 2006.

[JaneyVee]

23. So you think Karl Rove and RWers wouldn't skew a push poll?

[AZ Progressive]

24. This thread shows just how much in denial Hillary supporters are about her weaknesses

[hrmjustin]

31. What this thread shows is that some posters dislike Hillary so much they will post rw talking points

Just sad.

[geek tragedy]

34. It's like WillTwain never left. nt

[hrmjustin]

37. Yes.

[AZ Progressive]

36. Yes, lets just ignore what the RWers are planning and pretend Hillary is the perfect candidate!

[hrmjustin]

39. And if Sanders won you think they are going to treat him with kid gloves?

Are you going to post what they say about him?

[TM99]

62. Honestly, if Sanders wins the nominee

then yes, I would want to know how they will attack him so as to be prepared for critical rebuttals.

If Clinton does win, then it is important to realize that she does come with a train-load of baggage from years in the public eye. She is an extremely polarizing political figure. Some love and adore her without any rational thought and equally some hate and revile her without any rational thought. And that break down is not just Red versus Blue either.

[hrmjustin]

64. Posting rw stuff like this is against the rules.

[TM99]

69. I do not see anything in the TOS

that says someone can not post a link to a "right wing" site.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

If this is for informational purposes about how the opposition is viewing our potential candidates, it can be worth a discussion or two.

Now, if the community decides to jury this OP and it is hidden, then it did not meet the community standards.

But the post on the face of it does not violate the TOS as written.

[hrmjustin]

70. We disagree.

[JaneyVee]

33. Cool story bro. Check the non partisan polls.

[PeaceNikki]

46. Fucking "Newsmax"?

[Beacool]

53. This just shows that some here have zero compuction to post garbage from RW sites.

As along as it's anti-Hillary, of course.

[dballance]

72. Nice Self-Portrat.

[geek tragedy]

32. you Better Believe It! nt

[A-Schwarzenegger]

35. Jury pending...

[AZ Progressive]

38. Now resorting to censorship for posting something unpopular?

What great americans!

[geek tragedy]

41. DU is probably not the right site for you.

Maybe Lucianne.com would be a better fit.

[AZ Progressive]

50. From a member of the fervent Obama defenders club!

I just get a kick studying how some Democrats can be not much better than Republicans.

[sufrommich]

57. You mean like democrats who read and post NewsMax articles?

Not much better than republicans indeed.

[geek tragedy]

58. Yes, Obama is popular amongst actual Democrats.

Republicans and Naderite purity clowns tend to hate him.

[JaneyVee]

67. LOL. Speak for yourself, YOU posted a Republican site.

[Beacool]

42. Is this what this site has been reduced to, posting articles from RW publications???

So, anything is fair game when attacking Hillary.

Pathetic.......

[AZ Progressive]

61. Wow, seems like a lot of people don't know shit about Marketing Research

You guys seem like totally in the dark with how advanced the modern world is. You guys are even in denial that Rove used heavy marketing research during 2000 and 2004.

[Beacool]

66. "You guys" is too many people and you know squat about who you are talking to.

For your information, my degree is in Political Science and I've been involved with more than one campaign. You are posting crap from a noted RW site and trying to excuse your source.

"American Crossroads is a Super PAC that raises funds from donors to advocate for certain candidates of the Republican Party. Former White House strategist Karl Rove was behind its formation.[1] Its president is Steven J. Law, a former United States Deputy Secretary of Labor for President George W. Bush and the Chairman of the Board of Directors is former Republican National Committee chairman Mike Duncan. Advisers to the group include Senior Advisor and former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove and former Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour.

In June 2010, it established a spin-off 501(c)(4) group, Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies (Crossroads GPS). In 2012 it founded another Super PAC, Crossroads Generation, aimed at a younger audience."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Crossroads

[spanone]

47. really? rove has a bias? shocking!!!!!!!!

[AZ Progressive]

56. This thread is allowing Hillary supporters to humiliate themselves

Was not my intention, but it seems that they've resorted to it. Not my problem.

[hrmjustin]

60. .

[wyldwolf]

65. You're not nearly as good at this as Snotglass from the old Bartcop forum was.

[DanTex]

49. Karl Rove! Awesome! So proud that DU is spreading his ideas!

Lordy, has it come to this already?

[geek tragedy]

59. This one seems to be on his way out. nt

[PoliticAverse]

51. "Rove, who works as a _volunteer_ with Crossroads" - who would pay him at this point?

[Evergreen Emerald]

63. Remember Karl Rove on Fox the night of the Obama Election?

Hahahahaha. You guys are so funny.

Report: Karl Rove's Election Night Freakout Gave Romney Pause Before Conceding

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-karl-rove-s-election-night-freakout-gave-romney-pause-before-conceding

[JI7]

74. love this video , watched it so many times

[AZ Progressive]

68. All you Hillary supporters here like to think that Bernie's not electable and only Hillary is

Yet all of you ignore or would like to ignore that the Republicans have had plenty of time to study her and extensively figure out how to attack her.

[JaneyVee]

71. Great, now show us those Bernie Newsmax polls.

Since you want to bring up electability.

[zappaman]

73. Lol!

Newsmax.
Isn't that special?