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pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:42 PM May 2012

Remember Ashley Judd's statement back in April?

http://ashleyjudd.com/blog/


The Conversation about women’s bodies exists largely outside of us, while it is also directed at (and marketed to) us, and used to define and control us. The Conversation about women happens everywhere, publicly and privately. We are described and det,ailed, our faces and bodies analyzed and picked apart, our worth ascertained and ascribed based on the reduction of personhood to simple physical objectification. Our voices, our personhood, our potential, and our accomplishments are regularly minimized and muted.




Well, it would seem she's absolutely correct. When the Secretary of State visits a country to do important work, but ends up being described with the same terms one would use when describing a red carpet walk, EVEN IN A POSITIVE WAY, we truly have work to do.


Hillary Clinton, barefaced and bespectacled, is a refreshing image in politics



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/hillary-clinton-barefaced-and-bespectacled-is-a-refreshing-image-in-politics/2012/05/08/gIQAwR4HAU_blog.html?hpid=z4

The caption read “Hillary Au Naturale,” and the photo showed the Secretary of state without makeup except lipstick, wearing black-framed glasses. Her hair fell in natural, unspectacular waves. Clinton was speaking at a news conference in Dhaka, Bangladesh during a trip to promote democracy and development. The event followed a complicated and highly dramatic trip to China.

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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. i doubt hillary minds a picture. more the point, is that there is even mention of the fact
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:50 PM
May 2012

she isnt wearing makeup

who the fuck cares, and has nothing to do with anything

if our culture actually valued the worth of women besides appearance, this would not have been mentioned.

that is the faux pas.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
3. Condi was a Republican, hence, untouchable.
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:53 PM
May 2012

Madeline Albright was too old for the rat-bastards to even consider her a woman. Remember all the crap Janet Reno took for how she looked? That was nasty.

But Hillary is for some reason a real lightning rod for neurosis on all sides.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
6. there are just too many 'how hillary looks'
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:07 PM
May 2012

or 'how tired Hillary is'.

what the hell? does a man get talked about like that? no! and a lot of this obsession comes from women! women who wanted a first woman president yet talk about how she looks so often (not talking specifically about the OP but just general chatter here and elsewhere).

oiy.
I'll get a beating for this I'm sure.

pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
9. It appears to me that's because women are taught by society to objectify themselves as much as...
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:52 AM
May 2012

men are taught to objectify them.

My 2 cents.

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YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
12. She's the top diplomat for our country...
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:40 AM
May 2012

...the woman is going to be tired, and make up is going to be the last thing on her mind some days. Leave her alone. She's a bad ass and I don't care what she looks like. I admire her for putting a smile on her face and going out and kicking ass everyday.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. pepperbear, thank you. you found her WHOLE letter. when it first came out on a site
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:01 PM
May 2012

i read the whole letter. a couple hours later i went back in and they had condensed it. left out some really good paragraphs. this is the whole thing. appreciate.

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