Need your opinion on this site: something called Say Anything.

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The Say Anything blog. One link was sent to me on Facebook after I posted something positive about her.

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/rachel-maddow-caught-outright-lying-about-wisconsins-budget/

Then again, I have a friend who's becoming quite the contrarian - ANY time I post anything, he starts in immediately about how oh they're all bad and both parties suck and Obama this and Obama that and EVERY TIME I post anything, he's there with all his naysaying, reading to punch holes in every word I've written. It's exhausting, seriously annoying, and discouraging. Oh yeah, sometimes he dumps on romney and the GOP but man, whenever the subject of Democrats-anything comes up, he's like ants at a picnic. Ever-present, and ever-negative. He sent me this, poking holes in Rachel Maddow - whose work I admire greatly. And I have a long history with this friend, which I think back over with great affection.

Anyway, I'd love your take on it. I don't have time tonight to go into deep multi-level research on it, and I'm not sure of half the things I'm seeing when I've attempted to, in the first place. An array of topics that are already posted seem awfully critical of Democrats and liberals. I'm wondering if this is a GOP front or a breitbart2.0-wannabe or something. I'd very much appreciate some DU vetting.

Thanks so much!

[WhoIsNumberNone]

1. Looks like an all-around kook site to me

Craig's List Rants & Raves with better software.

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2. I didn't know what to make of it, trying to give my friend the benefit of the doubt.

But then I go further in and see all these blog titles and it all seems to be a let's-dump-on-Democrats type thing. I've never heard of some of the people there with author credits. I look at things like the ads and other ancillary stuff and it looks almost like a toss-up.

My pro-Maddow bias leads me to want to take that "Rachel Lies!" blog with a big-ass grain of salt. But I've never seen her lie, that I know of based on what I already know of the subject she's discussing, and I actually HAVE seen her correct things she'd said on earlier nights, that didn't pan out. I tend to suspect an agenda when someone attacks Rachel's credibility.

I've also noticed, somewhat off-topic here, that the level of vitriol against Democrats and liberals and progressives - on Yahoo news, on Mediabistro, and other sites both partisan AND supposedly not - is just HORRID. HORRIFYING, as a matter of fact. Man, conservatives' strategy to poison public opinion toward our side has been thorough, and damn near lethal. It's really HORRIFYING. The hatred is just stunning.

Thanks for commenting, WhoIsNumberNone!

[WhoIsNumberNone]

3. There's a lot of the Dump-On-Democrats stuff there

Probably a majority, but on the home page they also have a story chiding Big-Government hating right wingers for supporting the NC same-sex marriage ban, so I think anybody can post there, which is why I compare it to Craig's List. And like Craig's List I wouldn't believe a single word I read there without first checking it against a credible source.

[hfojvt]

4. that story is over a year old

But as I recall, Rachel was wrong about what she said there. There was a lot of confusion and/or misinformation about the budget process. It happens, but it is not really worth re-hashing a year later, is it?

http://dailyhowler.com/dh022811.shtml

"Politifact isn’t always right in its judgments; the last time we checked, no one is."

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5. Thanks. I appreciate the input.

It's just really damn tiresome. EVERY time I post something this guy has to counter-post and poke holes in everything. He's grown quite bitter through the years, because he's had some pretty bad luck. And now it seems like he just wants to lash out - at everybody. We used to agree on a lot more.

[annabanana]

6. he may be beyond help.

If he's that disillusioned, he probably doesn't bother to vote. If he doesn't vote, you can always tell him he's not allowed to bellyache.

[hfojvt]

7. sometimes I feel like I do the same thing

My brother sends these rightwing emails and I hit reply all and tear them to shreds. My sister and parents appreciate my comments, but my brother may not be so happy about them. And maybe too often I am critical on DU as well. It is just that seeing something wrong is more motivating to posting than seeing something right.

If he is unlucky and bitter though, I am surprised that he thinks Republicans are gonna help him. I mean the Ryan budget, Romney's tax plans are all about huge tax breaks for the wealthy. So if he is not wealthy ...

Now, if he is a 3rd partier who hates both parties, then I can understand that a little bit. It seems to me that both parties do not do much for the bottom 60%. Even Obama, when he talks about the middle class, that seems to me to be a code for the 60-95% crowd. So you have the Republicans who are taking care of the top 5% and the Democrats who are taking care of the 60-95% (and the bottom 10% to a degree) and both of them are saying "screw you" to the 10-60%.

But the other thing is, if he lashes out at Rachel or Obama or Pelosi, you should not take that personally, even if you like all three of them. When I lash out at BillO or Romney or Boehner, I would hope that their fans don't take that personally (even though I think probably some of them will, we vest our emotions in these people like they are our personal friends or favorite teams or something.)

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8. Well, I have a postscript to this stupid little episode.

My - uh - "friend" refused to comply with my repeated requests for him not to post his angry, bitter jabs anytime he felt like it. Excoriated me for being one of those "liberals who carry on about the First Amendment and then act like this." Etc. Etc. I just didn't want the bile, and I don't always appreciate somebody stepping in immediately, ready to poke holes in whatever I say. Didn't care. "You pop up, I pop off." And if I didn't just allow him to rattle on with his cynicism and growing nastiness, he berated me even more!

And it got nastier and nastier. To the point where I started deleting the most offensive posts. They were becoming very mean-spirited. And meanwhile, I am increasingly stunned by this. I stood by this guy when he was in and out of a series of bad relationships, when he struggled against discrimination because he's gay, when he worked on various campaigns that weren't always popular. And after he went through some equally bad financial times, I urged him to start doing astrological charts as he had once done, because he was really gifted at it, and I'd be glad to pay him to do my chart for me. And now we have a President who finally opens the door for marriage equality, and this dude is still pissed. Still hates Obama, still lambastes him for being dreadfully disappointing (after THIS????) and it's not good enough and Obama is this and that.

He finally posted on my page this morning another diatribe about how horrible and hypocritical and this and that I am because I'm shitting all over the First Amendment because I dare to object to his toxic little posts and don't want that shit on my page. "Enjoy Siberia," he posted. And then he un-friended me.

Later in the day I got this alert from Facebook saying my account:

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WEIRD! VERY funny-looking letter "c" in "Facebook," and another VERY funny-looking letter "t" in "Security." Suspicious, I think, and friends with whom I compared notes about this agreed. The link takes you to another page asking for lots of info like one's password and age and email. I didn't touch it and obviously didn't fill anything out.

So I'm guessing my now-FORMER friend may have alerted on me for MY annoying or insulting posts. HAH! Sounds like what happens all the time with republi-CONS accusing somebody else of doing what they themselves have done. Just amazing. And it's sad. Now I start to understand a little bit about why this individual has had such a rotten life and rotten relationships. If this is how he treats me on something as trivial as Facebook posts, who knows how he REALLY inter-acted with people close to him.

Anyway, probably much ado about nothing. When I discovered I'd been un-friended, I actually thought - "thank you, dude." 'Cause he saved me from the guilt of unfriending him - which I had started seriously considering doing.

Thanks for letting me vent about this - for whatever it's worth (like probably nothing).

[jambo101]

9. Contrarian friend

Sounds like your friend would fit in nicely over at CityData forum