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okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:47 PM May 2015

Lottery ‘winner’ who was given $75 instead of $75,000 was undercover inspector

Palmdale, CA (KTLA) — A Palmdale gas station has been placed under investigation after a lottery ticket that should have returned a $75,000 reward earned its holder, who was actually a state inspector, only got him $75 in cash, a California lottery official said Monday.

The gas station released surveillance video of the purported winner on Sunday in an effort to identify the man and reward him his rightful earnings, the station’s manager said.

Various Los Angeles-area news outlets ran the story, reporting that the gas station was attempting to find the $75,000 “winner.”

But the video actually shows an undercover investigator from the California Lottery on an inspection stop, according to Russell Lopez, a spokesman for the lottery.

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“Since the store held onto the ticket, it appears the ticket was mishandled,” Lopez said in a brief statement to KTLA. “We are currently investigating this case.”

Continued at Link plus video:
http://fox4kc.com/2015/05/05/lottery-winner-who-was-given-75-instead-of-75000-was-undercover-inspector/

Some of the DUers called this one. I was so naive, I didn't realize stores did would do that.

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Lottery ‘winner’ who was given $75 instead of $75,000 was undercover inspector (Original Post) okaawhatever May 2015 OP
Stores aren't supposed to cash a $75,000 ticket. LisaL May 2015 #1
Yeah, that's the point...it was a sting and the store failed the test pipoman May 2015 #2
Did the inspector Spirochete May 2015 #8
I think so... pipoman May 2015 #9
Yes, he brought the ticket with him. LisaL May 2015 #10
Thank you Spirochete May 2015 #25
Ah but this is how it works nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #3
they give the ticket to some accomplice ? JI7 May 2015 #5
No, they cash it themselves. former9thward May 2015 #11
Old Scam - Store Clerks have been Busted for it FreakinDJ May 2015 #27
But the store management admitted the mistake and began searching for the righftul owner. ohnoyoudidnt May 2015 #4
maybe it was after they thought they might be in trouble ? JI7 May 2015 #6
The fraud attempt was when they told the owner of the ticket that it was a $75 winner and okaawhatever May 2015 #7
so even if it was a 75 dollar winning ticket he wasn't supposed to give the money JI7 May 2015 #12
You never play the lottery, do you? LisaL May 2015 #13
never played it , do you know what the limit is ? JI7 May 2015 #14
Every state I've lived in, it was $200, though a store could set a lower limit Recursion May 2015 #15
*Lol. Agschmid May 2015 #20
In Ohio the most a store can pay on a scratch off ticket is $599. LeftofObama May 2015 #16
$599 bucks in California. Codeine May 2015 #17
Florida is $600 Callmecrazy May 2015 #26
Texas limit is $500 n/t oneshooter May 2015 #28
Many lottery winners are cheated Gothmog May 2015 #18
I got beat out of a free play once Omaha Steve May 2015 #21
The Scanning Machines I See Tell The Person Doing a Self-Scan. . . ProfessorGAC May 2015 #19
Inspector brought in a fake ticket to see if the store was honest. LisaL May 2015 #23
In TN they don't have very many of the self scan machines and some of them don't work very well. I okaawhatever May 2015 #24
The store manager looks crooked. Anyone who wins more than $100 should go to the state stevenleser May 2015 #22
I won $500 on a scratch ticket bigwillq May 2015 #29

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
8. Did the inspector
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:25 AM
May 2015

bring the ticket in with him? I assume so, because what are the odds of him winning 75,000? Dunno - the story kind of confuses me.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
9. I think so...
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:48 AM
May 2015

I think the inspector presented a ticket that scanned to be worth 75k, the store clerk told the inspector it was worth only $75.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
10. Yes, he brought the ticket with him.
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:54 AM
May 2015

The ticket was fake. The point was to check if cashier was going to follow the lottery rules.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
25. Thank you
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:29 AM
May 2015

I thought that probably had to be it. I wonder how often this occurs. Not necessarily 75,000, but any amount.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Ah but this is how it works
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:11 AM
May 2015

you give the winner 75, and they walk away dumb and happy. Then these folks turn around and cash the actual winnings and make the till whole.

This is why they have these inspectors.

former9thward

(31,961 posts)
11. No, they cash it themselves.
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:00 AM
May 2015

On the news last night they interviewed a store owner than had "won" 10 lottery tickets amounting to $70,000. What luck he had!

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
27. Old Scam - Store Clerks have been Busted for it
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:44 AM
May 2015

That scam started when the Lotery started

Question being - Who tipped off the store they were about to get Busted

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
4. But the store management admitted the mistake and began searching for the righftul owner.
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:13 AM
May 2015

How would that indicate fraud attempt on their part? Does the store get to keep the winnings when it is clear they did not but the ticket?

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
7. The fraud attempt was when they told the owner of the ticket that it was a $75 winner and
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:22 AM
May 2015

not a $75,000 winner. Not to mention, stores aren't allowed to cash (or take/keep for any reason) tickets that are worth that much. The cashier never should have taken posession of the ticket. The winner would have to go to the lottery office to make the claim for the money there.

The cashier ran the ticket to see if it was a winner, saw that it was worth 75,000. Lied to the customer and said it was worth $75. Was planning to cash the ticket himself or get someone else to do it on his behalf and pocket the winnings. It could have been an honest mistake since it was a scratch off, but that seems unlikely since those tickets are typically scanned using a bar code so the amount of the winnings would have come up on the computer.

I think they looked back at the video to see who cashed the ticket & realized it was someone undercover or they chickened out of their plan and that is when they started advertising for the owner.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
12. so even if it was a 75 dollar winning ticket he wasn't supposed to give the money
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:08 AM
May 2015

to the ticket holder ?

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
13. You never play the lottery, do you?
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:10 AM
May 2015

Store can cash a ticket up to a certain amount. $75 is below the limit, so store is supposed to cash it.
$75,000 is way above, so the store was supposed to give the ticket back to the man and send him to the lottery office.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. Every state I've lived in, it was $200, though a store could set a lower limit
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:34 AM
May 2015

So, like, the 7-11 wouldn't cash anything more than $10 because for obvious reasons they don't keep much more than that in the till at a given moment. But, no venue (at least in VA, DC, and MA) is even allowed to cash in a ticket higher than $200 (I won $1000 on a scratch-off I bought at a bar once during grad school* and the machine that scanned it said "Take to nearest lottery office" or something like that).

* There are several bad decisions implicit in this sentence...

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
16. In Ohio the most a store can pay on a scratch off ticket is $599.
Wed May 6, 2015, 06:20 AM
May 2015

Anything over that you have to go to a lottery office so they can deduct taxes.

This reminds me of a story when I was going to school in Arizona; I was working at a Circle K convenience store and a lady brought a ticket in. I scanned it and it said, "See lottery agent." I handed her ticket back and told her what the screen said and she had a huge grin on her face and walked out. I never saw her again and I've always been curious to know how much she won.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. $599 bucks in California.
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:04 AM
May 2015

Higher than that and we give them a claim form and send them to the nearest Lottery office. Even higher than $40 the machine asks if you can cash it on site since some stores keep very little working cash available to their cashiers.

Scratchers are cashed by a barcode scan at the Lotto termnal. The amount comes up on the terminal screen. These people were being fraudulent and then got cold feet and tried to cover their asses in my opinion.

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
18. Many lottery winners are cheated
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:17 AM
May 2015

The reasons for this inspection was to catch lottery operators who cheat winners

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
19. The Scanning Machines I See Tell The Person Doing a Self-Scan. . .
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:21 AM
May 2015

. . .how much the ticket wins. Wonder why that didn't occur here? If i scanned on one of those, i would know i just read $75k. It would be impossible to defraud me then.

I wonder if the inspector had the clerk scan it instead of doing it himself.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
23. Inspector brought in a fake ticket to see if the store was honest.
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:29 AM
May 2015

Why in the world would inspector scan the ticket himself? Of course he gave it to the clerk. Clerk was supposed to scan the ticket, give the inspector his ticket back and tell the inspector to go to the lottery office. Instead clerk gave him $75 and didn't return the ticket.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
24. In TN they don't have very many of the self scan machines and some of them don't work very well. I
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:34 AM
May 2015

rarely buy a lottery ticket, but the last time I tried to use a self scan machine it didn't work.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
22. The store manager looks crooked. Anyone who wins more than $100 should go to the state
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:26 AM
May 2015

lottery office nearest them to collect.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
29. I won $500 on a scratch ticket
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:04 PM
May 2015

and went to a local gas station. Everything worked out ok.

I know in CT:

Up to $599 can be claimed at any lottery retailer.
Up to $5,000 can be claimed at any High-Tier Claim Center.
More than $5,000 needs to be claimed only at Lottery Headquarters.

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