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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnalysis: Why I think it'll be Scott Walker
If I had to put money on it, I'd feel pretty confident saying that Walker will be the nominee. The schism in the party will prevent the establishment Jeb backers from shoving him through. The tea party is a stronger force than it was even four years ago. Scottie The Walker, will be acceptable both to big money establishment repukes and the tea party nutwads.
Chris Christie: Too damaged. No, he wasn't indicted but he's besmirched by bridgegate.
Ted Cruz: Tea party favorite, loathed by the establishment
Mike Huckabee: Ignored by both factions, in it for the goody bad
Rand Paul: Not really a libertarian but not gung-ho enough on war for the party establishment and looked upon with suspicion from many tea partiers.
Kasich, Fiorina, and the rest of the motley crew are just noise.
If Hillary is the nominee, he'll be a pretty good foil for her. People talk about her likeability, but she'll positively shine in terms of warmth and personality next to the Walker.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Talking points against him. He comes off reasonable but Hillary will have to paint him as a crazy like the rest. He will go after her as an elitist 1 percent where he will say he is an everyday type who even left college to get a job and some will eat that up. Hillary must start collecting negatives now.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)It's poppycock to proclaim something poppycock without being even the tiniest bit able to explain WHY something is poppycock.
Lame, Cap. Very lame.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)keep digging, Cap.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)if a codswallop would whallop cod?" But that may not be exactly correct -- I heard it from a woodchuck who was occupied chucking wood at the time.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...to quote George Orwell. But that doesn't mean he can't win. A country that elected Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George W Bush is quite capable of electing Scott Walker.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The Little Chimp was capable, left to his own devices, of fucking up a two-car funeral on a one way street even if you spotted him the hearse. Yet he managed to become president twice without ever actually being honestly elected once. Reagan and Nixon, toxic and destructive as they were, actually managed electoral legitimacy if nothing else.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Pros:
It keeps him out of Wisconsin
It allows the world to see how fucking awful he is
It allows the world to see how fucking STUPID he is
Cons:
It puts him in the national spotlight for fucking shit up
The nightmare of all nightmares: he could win
It allows the world to see how fucking awful some in WI are for voting him in
It allows the world to see how fucking STUPID some in WI are for voting him in
ugh, oh.... I just don't know.
I would like to see Hillary tear him a new asshole like she did to that fuckface Ron Johnson, though.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)he is absolutely the worst possible human to potentially occupy the White House out of the current slate of clowns. To be clear, I'd rather see the insane Ben Carson or stupider-than-shit Ted Cruz in the Oval Office before Scott Fucking Walker.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)which he calls "leaving for better opportunities". Why yes, a job *is* better than being kicked out.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Money is all that matters, and Jeb will have it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The Democrats want to clean up police abuses. The cops don't like that. Police unions are routinely republican and that won't change.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)will take priority. UNLESS walker excludes them from the union busting.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)Just as dangerous as Walker but not as dumb. Hopefully the epic fail of the road funding ballot proposal will taint him enough to keep him out of contention.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Michigan now has a state anti-discrimination statute, but it doesn't include discrimination based on sexual orientation. Snyder has in the past alluded to the idea of expanding it, which was bad enough for the fundies, but he made it worse in the wake of the Indiana brouhaha:
(from this April 2 news story)
The Christofascists don't have complete control over the GOP nominating process, but they probably have enough influence to torpedo Snyder's candidacy even if he runs. In a national race, that would be more of a factor than the road-building tax.
If he did somehow get the nomination, I think he'd be a more dangerous opponent than Walker or any of the declared candidates.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)But Cruz and Paul will hang in there the longest of the losers.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Or Walker would be my bet, for much the same reasons. They are the middle-of-the-road (for Republicans) compromise candidates.
Cruz might be the VP candidate, for fresh meat to the TEA baggers, akin to Palin (but smarter).
Jeb is flatly hated by most Republicans and he's got a monkey on his back named "W."
Huckabee is in it at the direction of Ailes, to siphon off the Religious voters from Cruz. Basically a stalking horse.
Paul is not a libertarian, yes, but he's said enough libertarian things to be rejected by the base. Shame, in so many ways, because I respect libertarians, even if I think they are impractical.
Christie is a non-starter. He's reasonable on gun control, for one, so will never make it out of the Iowa primary.
Fiorina is not serious.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The Kochtopus.
Snotty is one of their Chosen ones and they will spend a billion if they have to.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Yavin4
(35,438 posts)The Bush Family Evil Empire. In 2000, McCain seemed like a shoo-in for the nomination. That is until the BFEE went to work on him. The same thing will happen to Walker.
still_one
(92,187 posts)little difference between the two.
The main advantage walker has is people don't know him outside of Wisconsin. The main advantage bush has is he will flaunt his Spanish influence to try and sway the Hispanic populace. In addition, even though Walker has the Koch brothers, bush has Adelson, and his own massive funds.
No matter who our nominee is, the most important thing will be for that candidate to be very clear about the issues, and where we/they stand without ambiguity. In my view the biggest problem our candidates have had in the past, and that includes both Kerry and Hillary, is they triangulated too much, trying to give answers to satisfy everyone, which just doesn't work out. So far it appears Hillary has learned her lesson from what I have seen and heard from her campaign. Bernie, always has been a straight shooter, so that won't be a problem with him, and we will see what other Democrats want to jump in.
I notice you didn't mention Ben Carson for the republicans
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Walker is a well-funded Santorum. He'll be out early. He's under investigation and none of the clown car will let him waltz on in.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)For what that is worth.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Billions backing him. He wears the destruction of Wi like it's a badge of honor.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Walker is the perfect kulak. It probably makes him appealing to the R's in Congress and to Oligarchs who want a puppet. He also knows that what the tp most seek is blustering. Walker is great at serving both levels of republican politics
But because Walker serves the message of others, he is nothing without a script, and once he's on his own his best tactic is shutting his pie-hole, which he is getting a bit better at doing.
With the right people around him, and a prompter in his ear, Walker could be super-W. So Walker's path to the WH reduces to his hooking up to a capable puppet master...who can pwn him as Cheney did to W.
Surviving boyars of the Bush dynasty represent an organizational power within the GOP superstructure that Walker utterly lacks. I have no indication that the masters of the GOP universe really want to cede control to the Koch's. If the establishment powers can deny Walker a capable handler, Walker is at best the candidate most likely to settle for the role of bucket of warm spit.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)plays dumb very well.
Republicans prefer their leaders to be stupid, as it demonstrates authenticity.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Another good reason to support Bernie.
TBF
(32,056 posts)Even Wisconsin doesn't want Walker anymore (he went too far when he threatened to cut the university & people suddenly snapped to attention and realized they would be completely tanking their jobs/economy if they gut the UW).
If only because Republican establishment don't want a loser candidate.
Justice
(7,188 posts)forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)Don't forget that those two "grew up" together in Wisconsin politics. It has already been announced that one of the 1st debates will be here in Wisconsin. And I would not be surprised at all if Wisconsin moves up its Primary to benefit him.