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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:56 AM May 2015

I actually think fewer debates helps Bernie and hurts Hillary. The DNC did Bernie a favor.

I think it's comparable to college basketball v.s. the NBA.

In college basketball, teams are eliminated if they lose a single game. It's much more likely that you'll see an underdog advance and knock off a favorite because of the single-elimination format.

In the NBA, it's a 7 game series. The favorite almost always prevails in the end when it's extended.

I think the DNC did Bernie a favor.

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I actually think fewer debates helps Bernie and hurts Hillary. The DNC did Bernie a favor. (Original Post) Cali_Democrat May 2015 OP
Well it depends on the debate format el_bryanto May 2015 #1
Judging by past debates, I wouldn't be surprised at something like 40% of the time talking to Chathamization May 2015 #3
I think 6 is enough for her to get her message out. hrmjustin May 2015 #2
Getting her message out is just one small aspect of the thing, getting everyone else's out matters. NYC_SKP May 2015 #5
Well they can ask for 2 to 4 more. hrmjustin May 2015 #6
I hope so, 10 would be good. NYC_SKP May 2015 #8
I think you have a reasonable point rock May 2015 #4
I don't know. Hillary usually does pretty well in debates. Vinca May 2015 #7
What an incredibly poor analogy. winter is coming May 2015 #9

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. Well it depends on the debate format
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:59 AM
May 2015

If he's given an opportunity to clearly delineate between himself and Clinton - than that'll be good. It also depends on how many others get in the race - if it ends up being Hillary Clinton and 5 others - than Bernie may have a hard time standing out in a crowd.

But you are right it could turn to his benefit.

Bryant

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
3. Judging by past debates, I wouldn't be surprised at something like 40% of the time talking to
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:03 PM
May 2015

Clinton, 25% a piece for O'Malley and Biden, and 10% for Sanders (if, for example, those were the four candidates participating).

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
5. Getting her message out is just one small aspect of the thing, getting everyone else's out matters.
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:28 PM
May 2015

You and I have both probably seen well-moderated and poorly-moderated debates.

Often, the lesser known candidates get the least amount of time.

Secretary Clinton has an awful lot of resources at hand to get her message out without debates, it's not a leap to conclude that she'll be able to get her message out in six debates.

The question is "are six debates enough for the other candidates to get their message out?"

Given that there were 26 debates in 2008, I think not.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
8. I hope so, 10 would be good.
Wed May 6, 2015, 03:02 PM
May 2015

I hope they add more, but only if they're done fairly.

The country is starving for transparency, and there are an awful lot of issues that need to be debated.

If there are only three candidates then there may be less need for more debates, but more of them allows for more viewers to catch at least one of them.

rock

(13,218 posts)
4. I think you have a reasonable point
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:16 PM
May 2015

In any case the DNC is not doing the US any favors by biasing the debates.

Vinca

(50,258 posts)
7. I don't know. Hillary usually does pretty well in debates.
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:53 PM
May 2015

But I'm sure Bernie will do well in the format, too. Hillary's weakest presentation point is when she gives formal speeches. She has an odd, plodding cadence when she does. It's as if she's speaking in front of a room full of people with comprehension problems.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
9. What an incredibly poor analogy.
Wed May 6, 2015, 03:05 PM
May 2015

In basketball, the winner is determined by a relatively objective measure--the final score--and not by which team the audience was most familiar with at the start of the game/series. The new proposed debate structure heavily favors the early frontrunner, and early frontrunners often rely on name recognition, which isn't always enough to carry them over the finish line. It's a tacit admission on the DNC's part that they don't think Hillary can do well in 2016 without a little "help" from the refs.

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