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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSerial woman beater Terrence Howard has a baby dick
...according to the Gawker and video evidence
Source with uncensored video: http://defamer.gawker.com/terrence-howards-wife-was-right-about-his-small-dick-1702969630/
As for his repeated history of beating/assaulting women:
The allegation: In August of 2000, Howard was arrested in Cleveland after assaulting a flight attendant on Continental Airlines when she told him to return to his seat while the seat belt sign was on.
Howard's defense: Howard says he was just trying to take his daughter to the bathroom, and charges were dropped by the Cleveland District Attorney for lack of jurisdiction.
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2001
The allegation: Less than a year after the Continental incident, Howard was arrested in Whitemarsh, PA for assaulting his estranged wife, Lori McCommas. An argument over the phone led to Howard driving over to McCommas' home, kicking down her front door, and punching her three times in the face. Pleasant.
Howard's defense: According to The Smoking Gun, "Howard admitted, 'I broke the door down and hit my wife.' After being charged with a variety of crimes (simple assault, terroristic threats, harassment and stalking), Howard subsequently pleaded guilty in 2002 to disorderly conduct."
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2005
The allegation: Though the story is only coming to light now, Philadelphia Magazine reports that back in March of 2005, Howard was involved in another violent incident with two complete strangers: Danielle DiStefano and her then-fiance Kevin Saffell were in line at Ray's Dining Car in Philadelphia when Howard became violent after the couple was seated ahead of him (DiStefano and Saffell were in line first). After allegedly punching Saffell, a U.S. Marine, to the ground, Howard is said to have punched DiStefano in the chest, and continued to beat Saffell, before fleeing the scene. He was arrested and charged with simple assault and harassment, but those charges were later withdrawn and Howard only received charges for disorderly conduct.
Howard's defense: At the time, Howard admitted to the arresting officer that he'd hit both Saffell and DiStefano, but claimed it was in self-defense. When contacted more recently by Philadelphia Magazine, Howard's lawyer said that his client "has been unjustly accused of acts that never happened."
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2010 - 2011
The allegation: Howard married his second wife, Michelle Ghent, on January 20, 2010. It took less than a week for the alleged violence to begin. Ghent filed for divorce in January 2011, and the divorce papers detail a gruesome year: a slug in the face a week into the marriage, a beating and near-toss off a balcony in South Africa in July, and threats with a butcher knife in the week prior to her filing for divorce. The abuse apparently continued as Howard and Ghent tried to reconcile.
Howard's defense: Howard alleges that it was Ghent who was violent towards him, the judge granted Ghent a restraining order against Howard in December of 2011.
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2012
The allegation: On May 6, 2012 Howard's on again-off again girlfriend/mistress May Seng Yang alleged that during an argument at Howard's Pennsylvania home, Howard attacked her while his current girlfriend, Erica Jiles looked on. Yang "told Whitemarsh police that Howard had choked her, thrown her to the ground and punched her in the eye, then told his girlfriend, 'Fuck this, Im going to jail for this tonight.' In a handwritten statement to police, Yang wrote that during their argument she told Howard that he had given her herpes and says he acknowledged doing so."
Howard's defense: Howard filed assault charges against Yang for punching him during the melee, and both parties dropped criminal charges and settled in a private civil suit.
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2013
The allegation: Howard and Ghent recently took another shot at a reconciliation, taking a trip to Costa Rica together August of 2013. Ghent alleges that Howard punched her in the face, after she told him she didn't think a reconciliation was going to work out, forcing her to pepper spray him in self defense. The photos are damning. A judge has granted Ghent a temporary restraining order.
Howard's defense: At the premiere of Lee Daniels' The Butler, Howard told Entertainment Tonight's Nancy O'Dell that he wanted to "set the record straight":
Source: http://defamer.gawker.com/the-six-times-terrence-howard-has-been-accused-of-beati-1121955457
He also said this about Chris Brown after he viciously beat Rihanna
Source: http://gawker.com/5151893/terrence-howard-raises-lone-team-chris-brown-flag
It takes a small man to do something like this to a woman
Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/terrence-howard-alleges-physical-abuse-headspace-scary-article-1.1446044
trumad
(41,692 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL,
or is it x number of replies till locked-
We shall see!
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okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)So this makes the character even more believable. I will just concentrate on cookie. Lol.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)phil89
(1,043 posts)after all, penis size is a measure o manliness right? Disgusting stupidity.
I agree with you.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Kurska
(5,739 posts)They just think that line of attack is insulting people by proxy and advancing disgusting stereotypes.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)dawg
(10,622 posts)This sort of thing really messes with the heads of some men, especially teenagers, making them feel worthless due something they were born with. Reinforcing that meme, even at the expense of a *bad* guy, just makes it harder for people dealing with that sort of issue.
phil89
(1,043 posts)seriously. Unblanced for sure.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Body shaming isn't cool.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)I'm not making fun of people with real medical conditions I am making fun of a small man who not only violently abuses women but supports others who do.
Punching and choking women is not cool.
dawg
(10,622 posts)He's actually a large man, but big, strong men are considered the shit in this society, so instead we call him "small".
Howard deserves no pity or consideration. But when you make fun of Chris Christie for being fat, you body-shame all overweight people. When you make fun of Lindsey Graham for seeming gay, you are perpetuating the meme that there is somehow something wrong with being gay.
This is the same sort of thing.
The size of this guy's penis has absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Whatever size he is, all those women still wanted to be with him, at least until he started being abusive.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts).......(of either the man in general or any segment of his anatomy), but the size of the man inside.......his character. And, like Chris Brown and all other abusers, that person inside is tiny tiny tiny.
dawg
(10,622 posts)You are equating "small" with "worthless".
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Try not to make it a universal thing.
dawg
(10,622 posts)But I do think it is emblematic of one of the systematic biases built into our society that need to be rooted out.
In our culture, "large" is good and "small" is bad, at least when applied to males. "White" symbolizes goodness while "black" symbolizes evil. Masculine is strong and feminine is weak - they call men "pussies" instead of using the word coward, and a subordinate man is sometimes referred to as a "bitch". And of course, "fat" and "gay" are thrown around as insults all the time as well.
I hate all such twisting of language, and I especially hate the unspoken assumptions those words carry.
If you want to know about some really "small" men, I would tell you about Gandhi, Dr. King, Jimmy Carter, and probably the other J.C. as well.
As for "large" men, well ..... the idiot this thread is about for one. Papa Bear (Bill O'Reilly) is a pretty big guy too. Glenn Beck. Jeb Bush. Lots of big guys that are jerks.
Also, there are lots of tiny little monsters and great big sweethearts. It's a person's character that counts, and that isn't tied to their size - so why do we choose to reference size when we are actually talking about something else?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)This is actually derived from "pusillanimous," and not actually the slang term for female genitals. it does actually mean "cowardly." I'll grant of course, most people using "pussy" as an insult pretty certainly don't know that, because, well... most people probably don't know there's a word "pusillanimous" (but I suppose nobody can blame olden-times people for shortening that monster)
dawg
(10,622 posts)Thanks for the information.
Of course, I'm still not going to use that word. Except, you know, as a term of endearment. (Yeah, as if that were in the cards for me any time soon )
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Like I said, most people probably don't know, and so really do intend to refer to female genitals when using it as an insult. So the criticism is probably still valid, even if the etymology is unsound
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)As noted, either way, it's most definitely used to refer to women's genitals today, so, it was just an etymological quibble, rather than some sort of "defense"
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)for leading me indirectly to that pretty interesting blog.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)But mention that body shaming isn't cool in this thread and you'll be accused of defending Howard. This place is weird at times.
This is where I mention that I in NO WAY condone his obviously aggressive attacking of women. He's got major problems.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . and it matters not whether the person at whom the shaming is directed is a good or bad person. Body shaming invariably hurts more than just the person it is directed towards. There are plenty of good reasons to criticize this jerk without resorting to that.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Someone needs a 'shrink'.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I'm not saying it's not funny, but IBTL.
And
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)In what way did you erroneously think this violated community standards?
It was alerted and upheld by a 6-1 vote.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Offensive or both.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)-- Margaret Atwood
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Kurska
(5,739 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)He cries and gets satirized for that.
Guess what: I have the same condition and it's a bodily reaction to being nervous or agitated. The difference between me and Boehner is that I have learned to suppress this reflex.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)At minimum you appear to be minimizing it when it is direct at men.
"Look at him, he has a small baby penis". You are aware some men actually have a condition called micropenis and that is essentially a slur addressed as them for a bodily deformation?
The man in the OP is a brute and a monster, that doesn't mean it is okay to shame innocent men to try and attack him. I have no idea why you are defending that.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Why would he be aggressive unless he's unhappy about something in his life? Maybe because something or someone is beyond his control?
I retreat from this thread now.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)His own actions are not beyond his control. I don't care how big or small his penis is. If he is a violent brutish asshole, then I prefer to point out that he is an asshole. I suppose someone will say I'm body shaming for calling a man an asshole, but women can be assholes too. And last I heard, assholes are not particularly pleasant in most cases.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)It's the way people make fun of the color of his skin! He clearly has some sort of genetic issue. He says his mother and four siblings have the same odd orange color. I've even heard Obama making fun of that man's skin color! Ridiculing a person's skin color is body-shaming 101, but everybody seems to think it's very funny.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)That sounds more like medical condition shaming, which is wrong.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Facts are facts.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)tkmorris
(11,138 posts)This shit is just embarrassing.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Haven't seen his show because I refuse to support anything he does.
cali
(114,904 posts)anything to do with it?
that's just sickening.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Gawker, keeping it classy as always...
Response to 951-Riverside (Original post)
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tammywammy
(26,582 posts)This OP title is an embarrassment to DU.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I've ever seen.
Sun19
(7 posts)OJ had a dick the size of a log and he beat his wife. You should be ashamed of this post!
Body shaming
Attacks on small men implicitly
So much wrong with this.
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Bonobo
(29,257 posts)To link that to vile behavior is unfair and sexist and sizeist and wrong.
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Bonobo
(29,257 posts)However, not feeling shame when someone tries to make you feel bad about your body is not possible for all people and it is still a shitty thing to do.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)are chosing to not change this. For some reason they think shaming someone for having a small penis is ok, if it is someone they do not like. There is plenty to legitimately shame this ass for, no need to sink to this.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)this domestic issue that is already in the courts. Disgusting. Exploitation of domestic abuse is not for public display.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Having said that, why some jerk would title a post detailing such actions with such a patently offensive and sexist insult as this one chose to do, is beyond the pale.
Or perhaps I am wrong and the OP spends their lifetime measuring the penises of convicted spousal abusers and can document it for us all.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Where is the same outrage over Paul Walker dating underage girls? Before you say it I know he's dead but you bringing up old stuff so I am too.
JanMichael
(24,881 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I can guaran-damn-tee women never escape our pasts. Why should men get a pass on their pasts? You think just because something happened in the past it doesn't count? Try telling a judge that if you robbed a bank then they catch you years later. He has a history of violence against women. Unlike your summation of criticism of his history, he really does "bash" women.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)Last edited Sat May 9, 2015, 01:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Warning graphic pictures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
Hilarious! New level of class DU.
Dudes a jack-ass, but do you need to insult a ton of people who aren't in the process of insulting him?
dawg
(10,622 posts)Of course, he could have been lying, but I tended to believe him. Some of the things he posted really made me stop and think.
Regardless, it's a condition that apparently affects at least 1 in every 200 men. If you know more than 200 men, then you probably know at least one who is dealing with this sort of thing.
For that matter, a man (or especially a teenager) doesn't have to be small enough to meet the medical criteria for micropenis in order to have major anxieties over penis size. For those men, most of their actual problems are just in their heads, but the same could also be said of people with eating disorders. It's still a terrible thing for society to constantly reinforce their anxieties and feelings of inadequacy.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)It is really broke my heart to see good and wonderful men feel horrible because their junk isn't up to society's standards. Some people even go into experimental procedures for it, which is just a horrific thought to me.
I'm sure Op's like this really help.
Amazing, there are many posters here who harp on about the dick-size of people they don't like.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They say gun nuts have small penises a lot of times too.
I used to say that, but once I sat down and thought about it, I realized it derails the discussion from the real problem to something that has nothing to do with the problem. Nowadays, I'd rather just call assholes assholes. Then again, there may be a group that is offended by that too. I wish there was an app for that, one that inserts a random synonym for sexist comments we don't even realize we use a lot of times. Jerk and other words most people do know, don't seem to have the same power to express disdain for some reason.
It is rooted in misogyny too, but most people don't seem to understand that. In order to be offended by claims that a man has a small dick, a person has to think having a small dick is somehow a female quality and see female qualities as a bad thing. So, either way, it is rooted in misogyny.
I don't understand why men are so obsessed with penis size. I know lots of straight women and gay men and the complaints I hear from both regarding penis size are never about small ones, but instead on the other end of the spectrum, large ones, especially when their husbands or boyfriends want anal sex.
The bottom line is that if a woman is getting pummeled by a guy, I doubt his dick size makes her bruises, broken bones, or possible death any different. He is an asshole because he beats women. His dick size has nothing to do with that.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)He is a brutal asshole, but this is not the way to spread the word.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I've never really noticed offensive posts by you until recently. Seems like you're trying as hard as possible for a pizza. Why?
Kurska
(5,739 posts)Free(Pizza)dom ain't free blue.
BainsBane
(53,027 posts)I was in a thread where he got one of those four hides, and it was something else.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)bringing a man's dick size is somehow relevant to this conversation.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)You should consider self-deleting this post. This person may be a horrible man, but the size of his penis is irrelevant to anything at all.
Ick! Just wrong.
roody
(10,849 posts)A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)of reasoning why he assaults people is because he has a small penis is just plain wrong.
Plenty of reasons to call this guy a jerk without bringing his dick into it.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I have to ask if it was erect? Flaccid can be very misleading especially me in front of the cameras not saying I'm anything more than average all the way around but baby dick?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)body shaming is not cool. The reply I got was only this link, so I guess 951-Riverside is fine with trying to shame someone for the size of their penis.
http://jezebel.com/287242/terrence-howard-thinks-women-are-unclean-and-dressed-like-whores
Kurska
(5,739 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The smallness of a person for his actions come out in various ways
His actions are represented by every part of him
SMALL. Yeah, it's crude and snarky, but frankly, I'm sick and tired of brutality, wherever it occurs.
Whether it be cops and guns or big dudes with big cars or every single individual hot rodding their toys as an extension of their penis in a brutal way
Well, this has to stop.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Are you saying my female friend is over compensating for not having a penis by driving a hot rod? Are you saying that every man with a small penis feels they must overcompensate?
How about understanding people's bodies come in all sorts of shapes and forms and it is what they DO with those bodies that matters rather than how their bodies are shaped?
How about criticizing people's behaviors instead of their bodies?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I believe you said that.
I believe I said that this has to STOP. So, I think we're talking about behaviors.
Perhaps those exhibiting these behaviors are emphasizing something that never measured up (regardless of body habitus)
"measuring up", by the way, is a state of mind
psychology
. which is behavior.
Therapy might be good for these shitty people so that they can feel good about themselves and quit beating the shit out of their significant others.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)that.
"Perhaps", perhaps not, regarding behavior and body. And posting shaming about small penises really helps others who may have the same thing, helps them feel better about themselves, right? Wrong.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Fair enough
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)But it is the mixing of issues here. From personal history as well as a lot of volunteering at shelters, the reason men become violent or abusers is not their body. They may use it as an excuse, or could use the excuse that dinner was late, or you forgot to fold his shirts the "right" way, or he saw you talking to someone at the grocery store, but it is not the reason.
Body shaming is a form of bullying that does hurt those who fall into a category,. or think they fall into a category, such as over weight, under weight, tall, short, hair color, genital size or shape, etc etc etc. It hurts a lot of people and is different than abusize assholes.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)and doesn't believe in premarital sex (WHAT A SHOCKER!!!)
So I take it he's got mommy issues too
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TH: They were just pimps in the figurative sense, in that they were both very worldly with women. They taught me that in every relationship, the person least interested in maintaining it is going to dominate it, because they'll never compromise. So you have to always maintain that position of least interest, and you'll always control the relationship.
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TH: Toilet paperand no baby wipesin her bathroom.
ELLE: Wait. I don't think I understand.
TH: If they're using dry paper, they aren't washing all of themselves. It's just unclean. So if I go inside a woman's house and see the toilet paper there, I'll explain this. And if she doesn't make the adjustment to baby wipes, I'll know she's not completely clean
and then there's this:
http://jezebel.com/287242/terrence-howard-thinks-women-are-unclean-and-dressed-like-whores
He clearly needs therapy to deal with his micro penis issues, I take it he lashes out violently against women because he feels he needs to compensate. In a way I'm glad to see there are people out there who are supportive and understand the issue of having one. I just wish that he was surrounded by those people during the height of his career before he brutally beat all those women he encountered.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)
to beat himself, eh? I mean, he like humans who look like he looks
It might work out better, eh?
dawg
(10,622 posts)Obviously this is a dangerous guy with more issues than Time magazine. But your insistence that it all has to do with his penis size is seriously messed up.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)are peaceful peaceniks.
Put down shovel, pick up self-delete.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Post about how awful he is, because he is. But wtf does any of that have to do with penis size?
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)I know you're probably a fan of his work in entertainment but there is no denying that
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I have no idea who this person is. I understand there are reasons for insulting him, his violence and beating people and misogyny. However, that has nothing to do with the size of his penis and your continuing to try and link those 2 tells us more about you and your insecurities than anything. "Clearly" he does anything is only your assumption.
And no. Most men who beat women do not do so because they have tiny penises. They beat women because they are assholes.
And no. Most men with small penises are not violent or overcompensating by buying hot rods or beating women.
Different issues.
You can also take your assumption "I know you're probably a fan of his work in entertainment" and throw that out also because I do not know who this is beyond an abuser.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Does contributing to the culture in which men are shamed for the size of their genitals lessen or exacerbate the problem?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Deuce
(959 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)Says a lot about DU that it is. Any thread that said something comparable about a woman's body would have been deleted almost immediately.
BainsBane
(53,027 posts)By leaving the stupid part about his penis out and making a small about of effort to tie it into the broader issue. Instead, the way you've written is detracts from the subject matter. Then we have the typical responses of people who care more about the offense to a man's size than the fact that he and others beat their spouses. None of that contributes to a discussion of domestic violence, which is an enormously important issue.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)mentioned first and foremost that he was a disgusting person for his history of domestic violence.
Did you miss that?
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)He demands that women use baby wipes in addition to toilet paper. Normally, I would not see that as necessarily a bad thing if more people, in general, were cleaner with their junk, but does he do the same and scour his junk after each and every trip to the toilet? I doubt it. Just like when Mark Wahlberg was going on and on about refusing to perform oral sex on a woman but demanded women perform oral sex on him. Both of them are giant assholes.
I wonder how long before someone comes along and defends small assholes, giant assholes, regular sized assholes, and all asshole-kind from my hideous stereotyping of assholes.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)First, yes, Terrence Howard is an abusive asshole, but body shaming anybody, male or female, and regardless of what kind of person they might be otherwise, is juvenile and offensive in the extreme.
Second, in any case, he's flaccid in the video, and one really cannot tell how large or small he might be when aroused based on seeing him in a flaccid state. So besides being juvenile and offensive, the bit about his penis size is also incredibly ignorant.