Obama: Fellow Democrats "whoopin" on my free trade push

[cali]

So which is it, Mr President? Members of Congress are too stupid to understand the draft tpp or they can't access it or they're all lying to for some nefarious purpose and only you know the truth?



President Obama sought to calm progressive fears about his administration's push for free trade on Wednesday, saying critics of the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) have been "whoopin" on the deal - but they simply don't know what they're talking about.

"There have been a bunch of critics about trade deals generally and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and what's interesting is, typically they're my friends coming from my party," the president acknowledged during a speech at the Oregon headquarters of Nike, a company that's strongly supported the proposed deal. "On minimum wage, and on job training, and on clean energy, and on every progressive issue, they're right there with me, and then on this one, they're like whoopin' on it."

Many Democrats opposed to TPP worry it would undermine labor and environmental standards at home and around the world, and that it would push companies to ship U.S. jobs overseas.

But critics of the deal, Mr. Obama said, are flatly "wrong."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-fellow-democrats-whoopin-on-my-free-trade-push/

[Autumn]

1. OFFS

Can I have my votes back please?

[cali]

3. He's making the "progressive" argument for it, according to news headlines

what a crock of stinking shit. How stupid do you have to be to fall for this...again? Read the frickin' draft chapters and you know who isn't being above board.

[Cali_Democrat]

6. As if....

LOL.

[Autumn]

7. .

Bless your heart. You try so hard to be a psychic.

[Cali_Democrat]

23. LOL...you edited your post 5 minutes later to include words?

[Autumn]

30. It would have been about 30 seconds after I hit post but

my phone rang. I thought for sure you would get my message on that. Am I the first person in the whole of DU to use that feature? If so AWESOME!

[True Blue Door]

17. Because you disagree with him about one thing?

[Autumn]

19. Actually, several things. n/t

[True Blue Door]

20. My god, what a monster he must be. Several disagreements!

[Autumn]

21. Are your feelings hurt? Here

Now you go and have a nice day.

[Puglover]

41. ....

[Trajan]

2. We need clear explanations

Not the 'nobody loves me' bit ....

Explain it and persuade us ...

[riqster]

4. Well, then, let us see the secret details, why don'tcha?

[NCTraveler]

5. Prety straight forward and correct. nt.

[cali]

8. it's bullshit. the evidence that it's bullshit is hardly just

historical. the evidence is overwhelming. I've posted quite a bit of it.

How would YOU know? At least I've read all three leaked chapters, a shitload of analysis of the leaked chapters, process documents and the tpa.

You want to say you're for it because you trust President Obama? Fine. But to say he's correct about it when you know nothing whatsoever? Bull. And shit.

[NCTraveler]

9. I'm not for it.

All three!!!!! All three!!!! That's almost as monumental as your hate. You are becoming unhinged.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Lemme see. Who to take word?

The one engaging in a personal attack and nothing else, or..

For the record I have also read all leaked material.

[NCTraveler]

12. What in the world are you talking about?

Many of Obamas supporters are against the TPP. Obama knows it and mentions it. It is correct.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Hmm

All three!!!!! All three!!!! That's almost as monumental as your hate. You are becoming unhinged.

[NCTraveler]

14. Once again. What does that have to do with Cali and I being against it?

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. My apologies

I misread you

[NCTraveler]

18. Truly no problem at all.

Cali had a knee jerk reaction to my very simple post. A post that backed up the article she posted. Anger is really getting the best of some. It is understandable. We are talking real lives here.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. I got the lack of sleep

And no coffee excuse.

We have been covering a critical case in court. Yup it is criminal but it clearly involves speech and association.

So a tad on the tired side.

Getting dinner, going home, working on video uploads, get the last two to three paras written... Edit and post at the paper.

On the bright side we read the judge right.

[NCTraveler]

33. Very cool.

And in all honest, cali is one of the best posters here. Her knee jerk reaction is from her passion. Sometimes way overboard and too quick to react, leading to poor assumptions. Still one of my favorite posters and at one point or another we have all done it. Well, I know I have.

[cali]

29. yes, all three. and they are important chapters- Investment, Environment and

Intellectual property.

You are the one screeching, not I. And if you don't support it, why post that you agree with the president and he's correct. That's a little confusing.

And what hate? I don't hate President Obama at all. I don't attribute ill motives to him regarding this trade deal. I simply oppose it. Hey, I even hate this trade deal. That is not the same as hating a person.

And if you can't talk about an issue with even a modicum of knowledge, why pretend, dear friend?

[NCTraveler]

32. If you read your own article.

It isn't confusing at all. My comment was directly related to the article you posted. And yes, he is correct. The screed clearly came from you. Try reading it after you take a break for a little while. You are pretty worked up. Hate and anger are normally the tow reasons people fly off the handle like you did. My comment was directly associated with the article in your op and my comment is correct. As is Obama knowing who his opposition is. Your assumptions are way off base. But that is what happens when one tries to flex in the manner you are.

"And if you can't talk about an issue with even a modicum of knowledge, why pretend" Really says a lot about where you are today. Specially considering how wrong you are here with your assumptions.

[cali]

34. I didn't fly off the handle.

this isn't about me. And your comment wasn't and still isn't clear.

And sorry, but you were the one ranting and raving.

[NCTraveler]

35. How in the world is my comment still not clear to you. Amazing. nt.

[cali]

36. you simply said "pretty straightforward and correct"

You did not say what was straightforward and correct so I assumed that you were in agreement with what President Obama said.

[pa28]

10. Funny how leaked chapters keep confirming the warnings of TPP's critics.

Yet he keeps saying "we don't know what we're talking about" and we're "wrong" and expects to be believed.

[arcane1]

42. And he, so far, offers nothing to back up those claims n/t

[tularetom]

16. All these trade deals are predicated on the US being the world's consumer nation

But if we're going to keep consuming crap made in other countries at bargain basement costs we need to have jobs. Here. In the US. For Americans.

We can't support an economy based on working at wally world or flipping burgers. We actually have to produce. Something. Otherwise all these treaties aren't worth the digital media they're produced on (by slave labor in some Asian hellhole).

[jwirr]

24. Mr President it is as simple as this. Our mommies have taught us never to sign the papers without

reading them first. When they are available we will consider them. What we have seen so far does not look good. And there are a lot of other people we respect who do not like it either.

With all due respect - please let us in on this as soon as possible.

[CharlotteVale]

25. I wouldn't call it "whoopin' on it." I'd call it

seeing through the lies about it.

[hifiguy]

26. Bullshit!

That is all.

[Angry Dragon]

27. I want FAIR TRADE

[malthaussen]

28. Well, gee, Mr Obama, if they agree with you on everything else...

... and disagree on this, maybe they aren't the ones who should be looking a little harder.

Said it before and I'll say it again, he's acting like somebody ran over his dog.

-- Mal

[BrotherIvan]

31. Did he call them thugs?

[GeorgeGist]

37. For a smart guy ...

did he ever stop to examine why Nike strongly supports TPP?

[grasswire]

39. yeah, they sell shoes for $300 plus dollars...

...for which they pay 56 cents in labor overseas.

[grasswire]

38. I heard that live and it made me sick.

I could only think that his nickname needs to be "Slick" because he has obviously seized that moniker from Bill Clinton.

He also accused his Democratic opponents on TPP of lying -- said they are just "making things up" about the bill.

It was sick. Just sickening.

[Dragonfli]

40. He is completely shameless and transparent at this point, not even pretending to care about

The majority of the workers in this country anymore. I don't know what the future payoff is, but even if in the billions he is selling us and his soul pretty cheaply IMO (his self respect has to be around zero after the last few weeks, lord knows my respect for him has dropped to that basement level).

[woo me with science]

43. [phone]

Brazen corporate corruption of our faux-"representative" government.