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Galraedia

(5,022 posts)
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:31 PM May 2012

Fox Now Asking: Is The Drop In Gas Prices A Bad Thing?

Earlier this year, Fox News hyped the rise in gasoline prices, blaming President Obama even though experts agree that worldwide market factors, not U.S. policies, set gas prices. So what is Fox saying now that gas prices are falling?





Seriously.

You know who else sees the drop in gas prices as a bad thing? Republican strategists who were hoping to reap the political benefits of high gas prices at the polls this year.


Read more: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201205090010

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Fox Now Asking: Is The Drop In Gas Prices A Bad Thing? (Original Post) Galraedia May 2012 OP
A drop in prices means people will go back to their TBMASE May 2012 #1
No, it doesn't ProSense May 2012 #3
Well that too TBMASE May 2012 #6
You know ProSense May 2012 #13
I Agree With That ProfessorGAC May 2012 #25
3, 2, 1 savalez May 2012 #29
Is that what FOX "News" is saying, they're concerned about carbon output!? Uncle Joe May 2012 #4
I have no idea what Fox is saying TBMASE May 2012 #7
Higher gas prices can hurt... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #35
I agree with that and I have no doubt that's why FOX "News" is focusing Uncle Joe May 2012 #40
I wouldn't doubt it... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #52
Sadly, yes that is quite true. Zalatix May 2012 #8
Not unless the price of gas drops dramatically more than it has Uncle Joe May 2012 #12
Your right SoutherDem May 2012 #15
I think the SUV is destined to a display in the Natural History Museum next to the T-Rex AlbertCat May 2012 #50
A drop in gas prices helps the poor people who can't afford changing their cars or jobs on a whim BoWanZi May 2012 #16
A drop in gas prices means people will be able to feed their families meow2u3 May 2012 #22
If you think FOX NOISE gives a fuck about that.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #36
In fox news land anything accomplished under a dem administration abelenkpe May 2012 #2
Oh sweet jebus.. Is ANYONE buying this? annabanana May 2012 #5
Yes, for Republicans--which is why FAUX is sad. WI_DEM May 2012 #9
Aren't they the same thing? SoutherDem May 2012 #10
Oh, sweet Jesus Canuckistanian May 2012 #11
Oh bless them. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2012 #14
We have always been at war with Eastasia. n/t Downtown Hound May 2012 #17
Fox newspeak, they can't bash President Obama on gas prices. sarcasmo May 2012 #37
Bad for Fake news; Iliyah May 2012 #18
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! *inhale* Richardo May 2012 #19
my response xactly ahahhhahahhahahahahahahahhhahahahhaahhwhhwhahwhwhwhushdjuhschn dolcv leftyohiolib May 2012 #51
Surprise! silverweb May 2012 #20
Good for humanity malaise May 2012 #21
So reflexively anti-Obama they'd rather drown with the GOP than swim with a Dem Populist_Prole May 2012 #23
What next? '100% employment is anti American.' Kingofalldems May 2012 #24
Pundits DID argue that low unemployment was bad during the Clinton years. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #41
Oh I remember this theme! Chemisse May 2012 #26
The reason gas is dropping is due to bad economic numbers and falling oil prices NickB79 May 2012 #27
Yep...not dropping for the right reason. nt Lucky Luciano May 2012 #39
LOL these idiots need to be laughed out of the airways. jwirr May 2012 #28
They are so fucking absurd.... and-justice-for-all May 2012 #30
Dont be surprised if the price at the pump suddenly rises just before the election. nt cstanleytech May 2012 #31
We all remember the Daily Show bit on the RNC talking point of *high* gas prices, right? Nine May 2012 #32
How do they do that with a straight face? n/t SomethingFishy May 2012 #53
holy moly fox gas station is suffering guss May 2012 #33
PSST FOX is in the tank for RMONEY, they want high $$$ for gas,. Historic NY May 2012 #34
a drop of gas prices is due to same sex marriage Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #38
Plus all those rich big wigs who have invested heavily in the oil industry (stocks & futures). applegrove May 2012 #42
God, they're absurd. /nt Marr May 2012 #43
What a bunch of fucking hypocrites. Zoeisright May 2012 #44
Are U Kiddin Me! iloveObama12 May 2012 #45
The cognitive dissonance The Wizard May 2012 #46
Oh good lord. Ganja Ninja May 2012 #47
I love how they talk about the $1.84 gas price Courtesy Flush May 2012 #48
ROFL Scurrilous May 2012 #49
 

TBMASE

(769 posts)
1. A drop in prices means people will go back to their
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:33 PM
May 2012

previous driving habits instead of looking for ways to reduce their fuel consumption and carbon output.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. No, it doesn't
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:37 PM
May 2012

It means Republicans are hypocrites and liars.

GOP: ‘You Think We’re Going To Have A Press Conference Now To Congratulate The Administration For Decreasing Gas Prices?’

By Joe Romm

The GOP’s plan to blame Obama’s policies for rising gasoline prices has run into one small bump in the road. Gasoline prices have dropped $0.15 a gallon in the past month, to $3.79 per gallon this week, down from its peak of $3.94 in early April, according to The Energy Information Administration.

- more -

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/05/09/480699/gop-have-a-press-conference-now-to-congratulate-the-administration-for-decreasing-gas-prices/

Say it with me: Republicans suck!

 

TBMASE

(769 posts)
6. Well that too
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:46 PM
May 2012

but with higher prices, the SUVs start getting dumped and the smaller, more fuel efficient cars start to be purchased.

A lot of people I know can't afford to drive their big SUVs and Trucks and are now carpooling or buying smaller cars. I don't see how a drop in prices will get the same results

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. You know
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:57 PM
May 2012
Well that too

but with higher prices, the SUVs start getting dumped and the smaller, more fuel efficient cars start to be purchased.

lot of people I know can't afford to drive their big SUVs and Trucks and are now carpooling or buying smaller cars. I don't see how a drop in prices will get the same results

...the first group already changed the habit permanently. The second group knows, and it will take a hell of a lot more than a few cents to revert to bad habits.

Another thing, vehicles are becoming more fuel efficient. IOW, Fox is full of shit.

What I don't understand is the need to use this bullshit report by Fox and a slight drop in gas prices to make a point about "fuel consumption." It's almost in tacit agreement with the "bad thing" claim.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
25. I Agree With That
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:14 PM
May 2012

The "dumping" of SUV's is overhyped. Lots of people couldn't afford to, since they overspent on their beast.

Those that could dumped them, and then others bought them as cheap used cars. So, the SUV's weren't dumped at all. They just have different owners now.

And, you're right: The monofocus on consumption ends up making strange bedfellows because posters, like the one to whom you were responding, didn't really think things through. Demand is not really down that much, so high gas prices didn't affect driving as much as it inhibited the economy because people were not spending that extra money on other discretionary items.

High gas prices are bad for everyone, and low gas prices don't stimulate driving. The data just doesn't exist.
GAC

Uncle Joe

(58,342 posts)
4. Is that what FOX "News" is saying, they're concerned about carbon output!?
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:40 PM
May 2012


I don't believe the people will go back to their previous driving habits unless the price of gas drops by a couple of dollars a gallon and I don't see that happening.
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
35. Higher gas prices can hurt...
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
May 2012

a sitting president in an election year. This takes an arrow out of the Romney's quiver.

Uncle Joe

(58,342 posts)
40. I agree with that and I have no doubt that's why FOX "News" is focusing
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
May 2012

on a perceived negative aspect.

Uncle Joe

(58,342 posts)
12. Not unless the price of gas drops dramatically more than it has
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:51 PM
May 2012

and as I posted up thread, I don't see that happening.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
15. Your right
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:16 PM
May 2012

Every time I think the SUV is destined to a display in the Natural History Museum next to the T-Rex it rises from it's ashes like a phoenix.

What I am concerned about is the price which causes them to be "endangered" keep going up.

I remember when gas hit the outrageous price of $1, $2, $2.50, $3, and $3.50 or more. Each time the SUV (large land yacht before the SUV) is deemed doomed then prices fall a little, usually just about 25% of the increase and they are back as strong as ever.

Also, as the SUV is on its death bed people buy small cars and they are the envy of the party but they quickly become the wallflower.

I ordered a smart during one of the time periods that the SUV was on the "endangered" list by the time it was delivered the SUV was strong and well, and many people thought I was crazy to drive such a small, two seat car. Recently, I have had people with SUVs next to me at the gas pumps show envy for my being able to leave without having to mortgage my house to pay for my gas. I guess I soon will be thought of as crazy again.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
50. I think the SUV is destined to a display in the Natural History Museum next to the T-Rex
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:18 PM
May 2012

Well.... who championed the SUV? Who "allowed" it to even be a "thing"... just to get around laws applied to trucks? Who told us to go spend like we always have?


It wasn't the Dems.

BoWanZi

(558 posts)
16. A drop in gas prices helps the poor people who can't afford changing their cars or jobs on a whim
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012

That is the most important reason why i want to see gas prices drop.

I see how much higher gas prices hurt people with low income jobs who have to travel pretty far. Not everyone can change their habits and buy a vehicle on a whim which gets much better gas prices.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
22. A drop in gas prices means people will be able to feed their families
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:35 PM
May 2012

instead of Big Oil.

Republicans don't like to see people happy. The GOTP is so sadistic and evil that they think it's a sport to make people suffer.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
36. If you think FOX NOISE gives a fuck about that....
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:27 PM
May 2012

....I've got a show called the 700 Club you might want to check out.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
10. Aren't they the same thing?
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:50 PM
May 2012

"Republican strategists who were hoping to reap the political benefits of high gas prices at the polls this year." Isn't that the definition of FOX News?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
14. Oh bless them.
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:13 PM
May 2012

Fuck's Noise is so upset while the rest of the country is at least breathing a sigh of relief.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
51. my response xactly ahahhhahahhahahahahahahahhhahahahhaahhwhhwhahwhwhwhushdjuhschn dolcv
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:48 PM
May 2012

EPIC FAIL aaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahhahhhahahahhahahahahah

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
23. So reflexively anti-Obama they'd rather drown with the GOP than swim with a Dem
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:09 PM
May 2012

Stupid asses. Reminds me of the Daffy Duck / Buggs Bunny exchange as shotgun wielding Elmer Fudd looks on:

DD: "Rabbit season!"

BB: "Duck season!"

DD: "Rabbit season!"

BB: "Duck season!"

DD: "Rabbit season!"

Buggs: "Rabbit season"

Dduck: "Duck season!!'

BLAM!!! as Elmer Fudd blasts Daffy Duck.

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
26. Oh I remember this theme!
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:33 PM
May 2012

This must have been dusted off from when the gas prices were soaring under W.

Yes, it turned out that high gas prices were actually a good thing.

Then they got bad again when it happened to Obama.

Fox must be pleased to have a camera-ready story that their dim-witted viewers will not remember seeing before.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
27. The reason gas is dropping is due to bad economic numbers and falling oil prices
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:58 PM
May 2012

And why are oil prices falling? Because Europe is re-entering recession and US and Chinese economic output is slowing.

It's a potential sign that global demand for oil is dropping like it did in 2008, which would indicate another global recession might be in the making.

Nine

(1,741 posts)
32. We all remember the Daily Show bit on the RNC talking point of *high* gas prices, right?
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:30 PM
May 2012
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/01/1069337/-Jon-Stewart-exposes-RNC-collusion-memo-to-Fox-News-on-economic-talking-points

"Dart him! Dart him!"

I sooo hope Jon Stewart replays that and contrasts it with the new "gas prices are too low" angle.

guss

(239 posts)
33. holy moly fox gas station is suffering
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:36 PM
May 2012

Fox news is acting like they need to sell gas at a higher price like a station in a Gas Wars, . Obama is undercutting them Whaaaaaa. we need profit for our overlords so we can give our Koch Masters, a platform... those poor billionaires are weaken from illegal spying and Fox slavery .... whaaaaaa... not fair.. oil is blood and we need a transfusion. Obama not playing ball.
Whaaaaaa. we gonna take our ball and go home. we need u to love us cus we have to replace the hate we sent out for years. they filp flop more then a half dead fish on a hot plate..

applegrove

(118,598 posts)
42. Plus all those rich big wigs who have invested heavily in the oil industry (stocks & futures).
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:34 PM
May 2012

Last edited Sat May 12, 2012, 01:18 AM - Edit history (1)

That is who fox is really broadcasting for afterall when they ask 'are lower gas prices a bad thing'.. I thought the GOP were a little subdued and fair to Obama when oil prices were high. Didn't they say it wasn't his fault? Seems the rich truly are disconnected from regular Americans who find high gas prices hard to live with. Seems fox really is the propaganda arm of the rich investors. Seems the GOP wants high gas prices for more than just political reasons: they have their investment portfolios to worry about.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
44. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:59 PM
May 2012

I'm amazed their heads don't spin around 360 degrees. Hell, they probably do when they're not sneering on the air.

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
48. I love how they talk about the $1.84 gas price
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:31 AM
May 2012

Yes, gas cost $1.84 when Obama took office, but we had been paying the highest prices in history up until the second half of 2008. As the election neared, prices mysteriously plummeted. It seems very well orchestrated to me.

Prices never returned to those record Bush era highs under Obama.


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