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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sat May 9, 2015, 03:12 AM May 2015

I'll Tell You WHAT'S INEVITABLE

There’s a sign on the wall. There’s always a wall. There’s always a sign on it. The walls are owned by the wealthy and the politicians take turns posting the signs. Those signs tell us who's a "serious" candidate and who isn't, who should be heard and who should be ignored, who matters and who doesn't. As this rigged game goes on and on, as another "election" approaches, we're all expected to be grateful for the opportunity to vote for another Bush, for another Clinton, for more of the same wrapped up in a shiny new package. Bernie Sanders understands that the signs we need to see are not on those walls. They’re in the secret pages of the TPP, in the catastrophic consequences of Citizens United, in the ruin of the dying economies all around us, in the empty eyes of the riot police who surround anyone who dares to tell the truth. Those signs are everywhere, posted by Reality and written in pain. The earth itself is warning us, of fracking and fossil fuel addiction, of poisoned rivers and carbon emissions, of species extinction and polar cap melting, of plutocrat pipelines and the death of the oceans.


There's a feeling I get
When I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving.


Because profit is all that matters in this "Christian" nation, because there's always another war on the way, because the truth has been sentenced to life in prison without parole. No meaningful action has been taken against catastrophic climate change or massive inequality because the people who control the "government" and corporate media machine of this pig circus of corruption that used to be America decide what gets attention and what doesn't, decide what is reported and what isn't, decide who is heard and who isn't. Well massive inequality has done some deciding too. It’s pounding on the doors of America, it’s pounding on the doors of Europe, it’s pounding on the doors of Asia, it’s standing on the doorstep of the world with centuries of oppression behind it and the fire of karma in its eyes, it is going to come calling with a very loud final word for the politicians before all the lights go out and all those walls come crashing down . . .

PLEASED TO MEET YOU. HOPE YOU GUESS MY NAME.


Those more and better Democrats I keep hearing about always tell us they just need a little more time to stop the exploitation and the poisoning and the drilling, but they've been given plenty of time, they've been given more than enough majorities to stop this savage corporate assault on working people, to put an end to this relentless abuse of the earth itself and the skies above it. The masters of corporate capitalism have been playing with fire, it's all those arsonists ever do, it's all they've ever done, and too many Democrats keep handing them the matches. We've seen their handiwork, we've seen the fires igniting, we've seen the rings of smoke drifting through the trees, but no one in power ever listens to progressives.


Or to songwriters.

In 1971, Robert Plant wrote a song about the threat of greed and materialism, about saving the environment, about a stairway to heaven. He knew it can’t be bought with gold, it can’t be purchased with corporate cash, it can’t be acquired by the highest bidder and privatized for profit. It’s not for sale.


Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow?

And did you know?

Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.







cont'

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/08/1383235/-I-ll-Tell-You-What-s-Inevitable
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I'll Tell You WHAT'S INEVITABLE (Original Post) Segami May 2015 OP
well said! liberal_at_heart May 2015 #1
Someone's sig over there caught my eye: winter is coming May 2015 #2
How is Bernie on supporting worker unions? delrem May 2015 #3
The thrust of his support comes from labor unions.. Segami May 2015 #4
That's good. delrem May 2015 #6
Except corporations can't contribute to candidates BainsBane May 2015 #7
From OpenSecrets... Segami May 2015 #8
So it's not the current campaign at all BainsBane May 2015 #9
Perhaps you can explain this BainsBane May 2015 #10
Signs, Signs, Everywhere there's signs. eridani May 2015 #5
Just a Bunch of Songs yadig May 2015 #11
Golden Country RiverLover May 2015 #12
ahh, yes. the continuing mythology of the dems as an opposition party KG May 2015 #13
We were until "CENTRISM" (Republican policies) road in on their neoliberal horse in the 90s RiverLover May 2015 #14
We elect Democrats and they govern Republican. Octafish May 2015 #15
Thanks Octafish! Segami May 2015 #16

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
2. Someone's sig over there caught my eye:
Sat May 9, 2015, 03:28 AM
May 2015
"Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

Amen and amen.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
3. How is Bernie on supporting worker unions?
Sat May 9, 2015, 03:58 AM
May 2015

IMO the US requires a re-establishment of worker unions, if the US is to "change".

delrem

(9,688 posts)
6. That's good.
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:15 AM
May 2015

Unions have been under attack for decades.
IMO the creation of new unions and the support of existing unions should be facilitated, not disabled by right to work laws.

When there's a strong union voice, there's a strong grass-roots worker level democratic voice too. Already organized, solid.
When workers in a massive capitalist enterprise can't unite in solidarity, they are reduced to being nothing more than tools, having no more rights to their work than tools.

BainsBane

(53,093 posts)
7. Except corporations can't contribute to candidates
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:19 AM
May 2015

So that list is misleading because people are using it to pretend that the corporations themselves are funding Clinton when the fact is, if it isn't a complete fabrication, it's people who work at those companies, yet no information on what their positions are?

There is a box that says career, yet membership in a union is not a career nor is place of employment, so something doesn't seem right. And of course you provide no link so we can't look at the information ourselves.

No one is stopping you from voting for someone else. If you don't like what the media declares as an a serious candidate, turn off the fucking television and just vote. But I have to wonder why you feel compelled to repeatedly spread misleading information. Are you not able to justify your vote based on policy and actual facts?

I find it fascinating that people have no problem charging politicians with lack of integrity while themselves showing disregard for truth and transparency. It's particularly revealing that you provide no link so that people can't go to the site and read the chart themselves. If your cause is so just, why mislead? Why not disclose your sources?

So what is it you want? A law banning employees of certain kinds of companies from contributing? What about a janitor that works at a bank? Should he be able to contribute to a candidate? A cashier? At what point does it become illicit? To pretend we don't really need campaign finance and everything hinges on defeating the evil woman running for office?

I have several times suggested people get behind public financing to get all money out of politics, but I've discovered people here don't actually want money out of politics. One person broke into a rage at the suggestion of a constitutional amendment for public financing and insisted it was a DLC plot. It seems that democracy isn't the goal at all and that in fact there is no concern for systemic reform but instead the only concern is keeping a lone woman from becoming president. And then to find out the great reforms they imagine are exactly the same policies that every Democratic candidate running for office in the past ten or so years has run on, meaning business as usual. The great proposal for poverty--food stamps, what every Democrat, DCL or otherwise supports. No policy change, no systemic reform, just a different face, but the right kind of face, one of their own.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
8. From OpenSecrets...
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:30 AM
May 2015
This table lists the top donors to this candidate in 1999-2014. The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000019


As for the rest of your rant,....yawn!

BainsBane

(53,093 posts)
9. So it's not the current campaign at all
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:43 AM
May 2015

You're comparing contributors for a third party Senate race in a very small state with a previous national presidential campaign. Do you really think that makes sense?

BainsBane

(53,093 posts)
10. Perhaps you can explain this
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:52 AM
May 2015

Your excerpted image comes from the category box for top donors, yet this tab from that same chart shows the primary industries that contributed to Clinton's campaigns.

Industry Total
Lawyers/Law Firms $22,947,054
Retired $14,773,138
Securities & Investment $11,270,474
Real Estate $9,845,306
Women's Issues $7,488,405
Business Services $6,571,306
Education $6,228,624
Health Professionals $5,605,146
TV/Movies/Music $5,230,980
Misc Business $3,700,145
Misc Finance $3,683,878
Civil Servants/Public Officials $3,201,043
Electronics Mfg & Equip $2,708,460
Printing & Publishing $2,611,496
Commercial Banks $2,180,068
Lobbyists $2,171,669
Insurance $1,958,510
Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $1,948,406
Accountants $1,699,234
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $1,640,505

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000019&type=I

Lawyers are first, retired persons second, Securities and investments are third, finance down much further on the list, yet the top "donors" are all banks. The two sections of the same source contradict each other, almost as though those names were plucked out to create a certain impression. I find that interesting. Again, this is all from the same source, the same timeline, the same chart, just different tabs.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
5. Signs, Signs, Everywhere there's signs.
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:09 AM
May 2015

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/f/five_man_electrical_band/signs_lyrics.html

And the sign says, "Long-haired freaky people need not apply."
So I tucked all my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why.
He said "You look like a fine, upstanding young man - I think you'll do."
So I took off my hat and said, "Imagine that! Huh... me, working for you!" Woah-oh-oh.

Chorus:
Signs, Signs, Everywhere there's signs.
Blocking out the scenery. Breaking my mind.
Do this! Don't do that! Can't you read the signs?

And the sign says, "Anybody caught trespassing will be shot on sight"
So I jumped on fence and I yelled at the house,
"Hey! What gives you the right... To put up a fence to keep me out,
"Or to keep Mother Nature in?
"If God was here, He'd tell it to your face. 'Man, you're some kind of sinner.'"

Chorus:
Signs, Signs, Everywhere there's signs.
Blocking out the scenery. Breaking my mind.
Do this! Don't do that! Can't you read the signs?

"Oh, say now mister, can't you read?
"You got to have a shirt and tie to get a seat.
"You can't even watch, no, you can't eat. You ain't supposed to be here!"
And the sign says, "You gotta have a membership card to get inside." Hooh!

And the sign says "Everybody's welcome to come in and kneel down and pray."
But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all,
I didn't have a penny to pay.
So I got me a pen and paper and I made up my own little sign.
I said, "Thank you Lord for thinking about me. I'm alive and doing fine."

Chorus x2:
Signs, Signs, Everywhere there's signs.
Blocking out the scenery. Breaking my mind.
Do this! Don't do that! Can't you read the signs?

Signs, Signs, Everywhere there's signs.
 

yadig

(11 posts)
11. Just a Bunch of Songs
Sat May 9, 2015, 06:36 AM
May 2015

I understand your rage but no one listens, Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, the Who..... they told us in the 70s and no one listened. Nixon won his SECOND TERM with a land slide, because no one listened.
In the 80s we got Raygun, and the band played on, as far as music, did any of them complain in the main stream, No, they all got theirs while Dylan sang about religion. How lame can you get, after what he kept telling us in the 60s and 70s. Bye bye miss American pie the levy has sure enough run dry, cause no one
listens. Think I'll turn in now the mad dog needs to take a dump.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
12. Golden Country
Sat May 9, 2015, 06:44 AM
May 2015
"Golden Country"

Golden country your face is so red
With all of your money your poor can be fed
You strut around and you flirt with disaster
Never really carin' just what comes after

Well your blacks are dyin' but your back is still turned
And your freaks are cryin' but your back is still turned
You better stop your hidin or your country will burn

The time has come for you my friend
To all this ugliness we must put an end
Before we leave we must make a stand

Mortgage people you crawl to your homes
Your security lies in your bed of white foam
You act concerned but then why turn away
When a lady was raped on your doorstep today

Well your blacks are cryin' but your back is still turned
And your freaks are dyin' but your back is still turned
You better stop your hidin or your country will burn
The time has come for you my friend
To all this ugliness we must put an end

Before we leave we must make a stand, oh yeah......

Golden country your face is so red
With all of your money your poor can be fed
You strut around and you flirt with disaster
Never really carin' just what comes after

Well your blacks are dyin' but your back is still turned
And your freaks are cryin' but your back is still turned
You better stop your hidin or your country will burn

The time has come for you my friend
To all this ugliness we must put an end
Before we leave we must make a stand


RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. We were until "CENTRISM" (Republican policies) road in on their neoliberal horse in the 90s
Sat May 9, 2015, 08:02 AM
May 2015

The Clinton Era.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. We elect Democrats and they govern Republican.
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:15 AM
May 2015

Thanks, Segami! Seems you've put the keyboard on the problem.

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