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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Tue May 12, 2015, 01:37 PM May 2015

Something is happening here

I know that I have never seen this before, and neither have the rest of our local reporters. We have bridges being built across, not just communities of color, but all communities. This is what police brutality is doing...

(And that is the surface issue, since people are realizing this goes well beyond just that)

Activists Talk Community Action Regarding Police at Church of the Brethren

May 12, 2015 (San Diego) Over 100 people came to the Church of the Brethren on the 11, to talk police brutality and community. They came from a multitude of groups, ranging from the Nation of Islam to comUNIDAD and Union del Barrio.

They came to listen to people speak about their contacts with law enforcement, some lethal. Others came to talk strategy on how to act when the community is under attack.

The first speaker was Shakina Ortega, who’s husband Victor, died in 2012 at the hands of San Diego Police Officer Jonathan McCarthy. Doubts have been raised in the official story two years on. She told the crowd that “we should be concerned that the police investigate their own.” She also said that San Diego “needs a major change to the police department.”

Her case, sadly is not the only one. Pedro Rios, Director for the American Friends Service Committee’s US-Mexico Border Program spoke about United States Border Patrol abuses along the border. These abuses are not just limited to migrant workers, but one third, according to Rios, involve United States nationals.


http://reportingsandiego.com/2015/05/12/activists-talk-community-action-regarding-police-at-church-of-the-brethren/

There is a song that keeps rattling in my head, a 1960s song



And now to the other story of the morning... but first I need to go get groceries



That wil require a lot of translation.
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Something is happening here (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski May 2015 OP
Kick ananda May 2015 #1
Yeah it is. I was rather impressed yesterday nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #2
k&r... spanone May 2015 #3
Have Thought About This Song TOO, TOO Many Times... ChiciB1 May 2015 #4
I've always had a problem with losing things. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #15
Well, It Does Seem We Have Lost It! ChiciB1 May 2015 #20
Well, where did you have it last? n/t malthaussen May 2015 #27
I think I last saw it in about 1963. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #28
The capitalist oligarch rulers are going to push the masses too far. We are starting to see rhett o rick May 2015 #5
Funny that you mention that. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #14
+1000000 woo me with science May 2015 #60
I was telling my wife a couple of weeks ago during the Solomon May 2015 #6
Here we are more than aware nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #13
KnR. nt chknltl May 2015 #7
Glad to k & R n/t Aerows May 2015 #8
A young kid on "The Voice" knocked that song out of the park last night. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #9
Sawyer Fredericks. And he might just win. 16 Years Old. An old soul. Lochloosa May 2015 #35
He's been my favorite since he did "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" in the battle rounds. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #36
Koryn Hawthorne won me over last night with this Lochloosa May 2015 #45
She was amazing. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #46
I agree. We'll know soon Lochloosa May 2015 #49
You watch The Voice AND dislike beer? bigwillq May 2015 #43
... ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #47
Touche bigwillq May 2015 #48
thx for the song ellennelle May 2015 #10
That was the best sold quality nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #12
And mister Jones doesn't know what it is seveneyes May 2015 #11
Yay, Bob! Enthusiast May 2015 #18
Living proof that not all Zimmermans are bad news. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #26
Cross-community organizing is a major force throughout history. Brickbat May 2015 #16
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #17
Absolutely, Nadin. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #19
And it is continuing to take more forms nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #21
I've used that term myself. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #22
Perhaps we did nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #23
We have now Jackpine Radical May 2015 #25
Indeed nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #29
Dig it. k&r polichick May 2015 #24
Do not underestimate the Church of the Brethren. murielm99 May 2015 #30
The community has meetings at their hall often nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #31
It happened here Warpy May 2015 #32
DOJ came and went here, over sexual abuse under the color of authority nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #33
Fifty years and it's still "going down." Sometimes I think asjr May 2015 #34
Let's Go for It, Brothers and Sisters McKim May 2015 #37
Let's Go for It, Brothers and Sisters McKim May 2015 #38
Yes, I can believe that nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #39
Excellent malaise May 2015 #40
When the Working Class & The Poor realize... bvar22 May 2015 #41
And I think it is happening nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #42
Excellent. This is how it starts BrotherIvan May 2015 #44
social protest has been a part of American Fabric since the dawn of America demtenjeep May 2015 #50
Cell Phone Neighborhood Watch n/t libdem4life May 2015 #51
Get the ACLU app if possible nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #52
Yes, I can't remember which state...or does it matter...it's a big step. libdem4life May 2015 #56
Each state goes to state ACLU nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #59
KnR sheshe2 May 2015 #53
You welcome, we are keeping on this story nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #54
Good. sheshe2 May 2015 #57
Not a problem, yesterday nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #58
Huge K&R. Bringing people together rather than dividing. woo me with science May 2015 #55
as a 15 year old teenager, I had the opportunity to work with Grace Boggs Quayblue May 2015 #61
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Yeah it is. I was rather impressed yesterday
Tue May 12, 2015, 01:43 PM
May 2015

Though I have not stopped running, This morning the protest was in front of the Mexican Consulate over San Quintin. That will require LOTS of translation.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
4. Have Thought About This Song TOO, TOO Many Times...
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:20 PM
May 2015

So much so that it makes me cry! Where's America??? Seems we've lost a whole country in the span of about 30+ years!!!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
15. I've always had a problem with losing things.
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:54 PM
May 2015

I never thought i'd lose a whole country, though.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
20. Well, It Does Seem We Have Lost It!
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:09 PM
May 2015

Haven't been happy in many a year. Kinda makes me want to AND feel

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
28. I think I last saw it in about 1963.
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:47 PM
May 2015

I had it in this box of childhood illusions I kept under my bed.

I know for sure I haven't seen that whole box it was in since I got back from Vietnam in 1968 and went looking for it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. The capitalist oligarch rulers are going to push the masses too far. We are starting to see
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:22 PM
May 2015

repercussions around the world. The Oligarch-Media is trying their best to suppress this information but that won't stop the Movement.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. Funny that you mention that.
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:53 PM
May 2015

Two TV channels were present from their reports I would have never known any of what I witnessed.

Solomon

(12,644 posts)
6. I was telling my wife a couple of weeks ago during the
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:23 PM
May 2015

Baltimore incident that the thing that the media was not reporting on, and the thing that tv watchers were not seeing is the new organization and leadership being developed in response to the assault by police. The media would have you think that everyone out there were thugs and looters but there were many people starting to organize to do something concrete about the problem. That's the thing nobody sees except those involved. For every action there is a reaction.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Here we are more than aware
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:41 PM
May 2015

Of the new leaders and the at times too much inside baseball. (Internal conflict)

Lochloosa

(16,734 posts)
35. Sawyer Fredericks. And he might just win. 16 Years Old. An old soul.
Tue May 12, 2015, 04:20 PM
May 2015
&list=PLlYqpJ9JE-J9EI1ezcBkd7pfulYFvEBFI&index=5

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
36. He's been my favorite since he did "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" in the battle rounds.
Tue May 12, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015

I'm actually voting this year for the first time ever. He's terrific, but I really wish they would stop with the judges' input if they have nothing to say.

He also seems like an incredibly well-raised kid.

ellennelle

(614 posts)
10. thx for the song
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:31 PM
May 2015

but the visuals are confusing. not one pic of anyone in the buffalo springfield that i could see; mostly jefferson airplane. what's that about?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
26. Living proof that not all Zimmermans are bad news.
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:40 PM
May 2015

I was gonna try to work in something about "Home on the Range" but gave it up.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
16. Cross-community organizing is a major force throughout history.
Tue May 12, 2015, 02:56 PM
May 2015

Any good organizing campaign depends on it.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:03 PM
May 2015

Thank you, nadinbrzezinski. I loves me some Buffalo Springfield!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. Absolutely, Nadin.
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:06 PM
May 2015

Things have been afoot for more than 4 years now. What happened in Madison (we share some memories of that time), at Zucatti Park, in Ferguson, in Baltimore, in so many places--none of that stopped happening. The mainstream media, driven by their wishful thinking and their instructions from On High, declared the boat sunk when it disappeared from view. They failed to notice that it was a submarine. It merely submerged, only to pop up again and again, in places and shapes where it was not recognized.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. And it is continuing to take more forms
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:32 PM
May 2015

this is a shape shifter...



And indeed we do. The joke in this house is, we are in the middle of fire and riot season.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. Indeed
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:50 PM
May 2015

right now writing the second article of the day from things we have directly covered.

The demonstration in front of the consulate was small, but loud... and of course, racism is involved in this too. IN the case of Mexico, well, let's just say native americans are not seen as truly fully human.

I also got an update on the events from Saturday.

murielm99

(32,988 posts)
30. Do not underestimate the Church of the Brethren.
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

They are a small, but good denomination. Traditionally, they are a peace church. They believe in living simply. They do things by example, and do not proselytize. I belonged to that church years ago. My husband was raised in that church.

It is typical of them that they would start this dialogue. I hope it gets all the support and publicity it needs. I hope that the people here who are not believers will be willing to have an open mind about them and work with them.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
31. The community has meetings at their hall often
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:54 PM
May 2015

they rent it for fairly cheap from what I understand. Yes, the wicker basket was passed.

I should add, these bridge building exercises have been taking part for a while now

The first we really, truly noticed, was within communities.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
32. It happened here
Tue May 12, 2015, 03:56 PM
May 2015

but our cops were equal opportunity killers. All you had to do was start acting weird, most of the carnage was against the mentally ill.

It was bad enough to attract the attention of the DOJ.

McKim

(2,426 posts)
37. Let's Go for It, Brothers and Sisters
Tue May 12, 2015, 04:58 PM
May 2015

Here in my town I am getting together to support black activists on police issues. Our mayor does not want to go along with a federal judge's ruling to report to the federal govt. on the progress of our police training. Can you believe it? And this is not Birmingham Alabama, it is Portland Oregon!

Get together and make it a fair world.

McKim

(2,426 posts)
38. Let's Go for It, Brothers and Sisters
Tue May 12, 2015, 05:01 PM
May 2015

Here in my town I am getting together to support black activists on police issues. Our mayor does not want to go along with a federal judge's ruling to report to the federal govt. on the progress of our police training. Can you believe it? And this is not Birmingham Alabama, it is Portland Oregon!

Get together and make it a fair world.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
41. When the Working Class & The Poor realize...
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:12 PM
May 2015

...that we have more in common with each other
than we have in common with the 1%, their mouth pieces in Washington, and their protectors in the Squad Cars,
THEN we can have "change".

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
42. And I think it is happening
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:14 PM
May 2015

the problem is that if you watch usual coverage, they will not make those observations I did. I swear if I only watched either of the news crews coverage from last night I would have not learned a thing.

This is part of the problem.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
50. social protest has been a part of American Fabric since the dawn of America
Tue May 12, 2015, 09:05 PM
May 2015

there will always be something or someone that feels change is needed

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
58. Not a problem, yesterday
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:21 PM
May 2015

I came from that, to get sound and photos off cards recorders. for the 7 in the morning demonstration at the Mexican consulate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6662102

Now that took a quite since I had to do a lot of translation.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
55. Huge K&R. Bringing people together rather than dividing.
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:09 PM
May 2015

This is how we insist on something better. This is how we end police militarization and corrupt policies that grow impoverished communities; police militarization; exploitative systems of government and prisons; and the targeting of minority groups, the poor, and the marginalized.

This is an important OP, Nadin.

Thank you.

Quayblue

(1,045 posts)
61. as a 15 year old teenager, I had the opportunity to work with Grace Boggs
Wed May 13, 2015, 02:10 AM
May 2015

I was initially volunteering for high school credits, but the experience changed my life. La Raza, NOI, Japanese exchange, us kids from the hood were all in solidarity... even though we didn't know we could be.

That's how things happen.

Thank you. Your work is great and looking forward to your transcriptions.


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