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villager

(26,001 posts)
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:51 PM May 2015

The summer's best film, "Mad Max: Fury Road," turns out to be a sly apocalyptic parable on feminist

...pushback against the 1%.

Not to give too much away, but I'm just back from a screening. The contest for the season's -- if not the year's -- best film is now over by an outback mile.

And it turns out the movie -- for all its grand spectacle (and it's pretty goddamn gritty and grand) -- also threads in a feminist sensibility about "who broke the world," and who it is that may, in the end, salvage it from the 1% of the apocalypse.

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The summer's best film, "Mad Max: Fury Road," turns out to be a sly apocalyptic parable on feminist (Original Post) villager May 2015 OP
It's getting great reviews Robbins May 2015 #1
There was a bad one? National Review, perhaps? villager May 2015 #2
On RT Robbins May 2015 #4
I'm going to see it next weekend. Initech May 2015 #51
Thanks! beam me up scottie May 2015 #3
If you loved "Road Warrior," you'll definitely love this... villager May 2015 #5
Oh goody! beam me up scottie May 2015 #6
can't wait! trumad May 2015 #7
Glad to hear it, I can't wait. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #8
I look forward to some more DU discussion on it, after it opens! villager May 2015 #9
Do you need to be familiar with the earlier movies to understand the plot? Bjorn Against May 2015 #10
No. It's pretty self-contained, including references to Max's backstory. villager May 2015 #11
Sounds good, I will have to check it out. Bjorn Against May 2015 #13
from what I heard Robbins May 2015 #12
Exactly. This isn't so much a sequel, as a re-boot.... villager May 2015 #14
Which is why MRAs are losing their shit over it. Brickbat May 2015 #15
Funny Catch ProfessorGAC May 2015 #16
What's SJW-ing? haikugal May 2015 #30
Social justice warrior. Brickbat May 2015 #31
Thanks! haikugal May 2015 #34
social justice warrior'ing. you know. having a voice! lol. we see it on du from a handful of men seabeyond May 2015 #32
Thanks! haikugal May 2015 #35
I pretty much assume anyone who uses the term SJW on DU is an out-and-out troll alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2015 #60
pretty much... nt seabeyond May 2015 #61
As long as they have a disclaimer: "no eels were harmed in making this film" Tanuki May 2015 #33
They filmed it in drought-ridden Namibia! villager May 2015 #37
Well, that's a relief! The MRA need not have worried about feminist "morays"! Tanuki May 2015 #39
On the "scale" of things to worry about... villager May 2015 #40
you forgot to mention "real women" lol elehhhhna May 2015 #53
oh, now you'll make them really nervous... villager May 2015 #54
MRAs are a bunch of pathetic man-children. alarimer May 2015 #38
yeah, that's not gonna happen frylock May 2015 #41
I can just imagine Snow Leopard May 2015 #44
Apples and oranges. n/t JTFrog May 2015 #56
or if it was posted by children, dogs or snowmen? wtf? MRA is registered as a hate group seabeyond May 2015 #62
No surprise. The film asks "who broke the world?," and the answer is, basically, them. villager May 2015 #46
Ooh, can I get the butter please? Initech May 2015 #52
Saw the first two back in the day, and the previews for this one look pretty bullwinkle428 May 2015 #17
the preveiw sure stunk up the screen olddots May 2015 #18
Which preview? Where? villager May 2015 #20
whenever i see feminist, before we see the show, i always have to stand back. because tattoo girl seabeyond May 2015 #19
How do you feel about my 13 year old daughter watching this? RadiationTherapy May 2015 #21
Well, it's intense, even if not always *explicit....* villager May 2015 #22
I think we will go. At this point I am avoiding "torture porn" violence RadiationTherapy May 2015 #23
good for you. i do not want to be entertained y that either. i am not seeing anything, seabeyond May 2015 #24
I tell people i don't want those particular neurons fused. RadiationTherapy May 2015 #25
Well it's definitely not "Saw," or "Hostel." villager May 2015 #27
exactly. thank you. yes. lol. right there with you. and i am an adult. not even talking seabeyond May 2015 #28
I'm taking mine Blue_Adept May 2015 #36
Thanks - looking forward to this! tosh May 2015 #26
Interesting...I may have to watch it... truebrit71 May 2015 #29
First time in a long time that I am genuinely excited to see a film.. frylock May 2015 #42
"Oh what a day, what a lovely day!" villager May 2015 #43
It does sound like a fantastic ride. alphafemale May 2015 #45
I'm not sure. I saw it in 2-D in a smallish projection room, and it was still fantastic villager May 2015 #47
I saw it today in 3D, and villager's review is spot on- I also heartily recommend it friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #48
Why... thank you, Friendly! And you even saw it in 3-D! villager May 2015 #50
Hard to top the Road Warrior. edbermac May 2015 #49
Well, one does miss Bruce Spence and the gryo pilot villager May 2015 #64
I wish I never saw this movie. dilby May 2015 #55
I know what you mean. Other action films will be calibrated against it. villager May 2015 #63
Sorry. I have no desire to see a Mel Gibson remake. longship May 2015 #57
Except it was not a remake and Mel Gibson was only an actor in the originals. dilby May 2015 #58

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
4. On RT
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:58 PM
May 2015

1 rotten review vs 49 Fresh.

the neagtive one is from Daily Mirror In UK.

Except for him people seem to love it.

Initech

(100,124 posts)
51. I'm going to see it next weekend.
Fri May 15, 2015, 11:15 PM
May 2015

I'd see it tomorrow but I'm going to see Muse tomorrow night.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
10. Do you need to be familiar with the earlier movies to understand the plot?
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:27 PM
May 2015

I was just a small child when the original movies came out and I never saw any of them, do I need to watch them before I see the new movie?

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
11. No. It's pretty self-contained, including references to Max's backstory.
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:28 PM
May 2015

If you remember the original ones, you'll be more "steeped" in the world, and maybe even faster out of the starting (viewing?) blocks in terms of getting familiar with this world.

But it stands on its own...

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
12. from what I heard
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:29 PM
May 2015

No.

I still to this day haven't seen original all the way though but saw road warrior and beyond thunderdorme.

The Road warrior is considered one of best action films ever.And one of the sequels far superior to original.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
14. Exactly. This isn't so much a sequel, as a re-boot....
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:31 AM
May 2015

You could think of it as a post-apocalyptic James Bond film, in a sense. A different actor playing a familiar character in a new story, set in that world.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
15. Which is why MRAs are losing their shit over it.
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:38 AM
May 2015
http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/05/12/furious-about-furiosa-misogynists-are-losing-it-over-charlize-therons-starring-role-in-mad-max-fury-road/

So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.

Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to

Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.


Er, “moray?”
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
32. social justice warrior'ing. you know. having a voice! lol. we see it on du from a handful of men
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:44 PM
May 2015

regularly.

Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #59)

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
37. They filmed it in drought-ridden Namibia!
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:50 PM
May 2015

Nary a fish -- let alone an eel! -- to be found.

A CG lizard in the opening sequence doesn't necessarily fare very well, however...

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
40. On the "scale" of things to worry about...
Wed May 13, 2015, 02:03 PM
May 2015

...those MRAs won't have to worry about the squishy 'eel of "morays" coming down on 'em!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
62. or if it was posted by children, dogs or snowmen? wtf? MRA is registered as a hate group
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:38 AM
May 2015

you have a problem with that?

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
46. No surprise. The film asks "who broke the world?," and the answer is, basically, them.
Thu May 14, 2015, 11:49 AM
May 2015

And, of course, the type of "leader"ship they vociferously support...

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
17. Saw the first two back in the day, and the previews for this one look pretty
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:43 AM
May 2015

awesome. Reading this definitely seals the deal for me as a "must-see"!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. whenever i see feminist, before we see the show, i always have to stand back. because tattoo girl
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:46 AM
May 2015

was not. as much as it was raved to be feminism, it was absolutely not.

but. this one is sounding interesting and promising. i ma kinda excited about seeing it myself, and i do not go to movies.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
21. How do you feel about my 13 year old daughter watching this?
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:05 PM
May 2015

I realize you don't know her or me, etc... Just wondering about how explicit it is in terms of sex and violence.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
22. Well, it's intense, even if not always *explicit....*
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:09 PM
May 2015

...images of how people are kept, literally, in chains, etc. A lot of things implied "just off screen," as it were, so it might be "scary."

I don't know what kind of material you let her see right now. But there is, at least, a very strong "woman warrior" message throughout...

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
23. I think we will go. At this point I am avoiding "torture porn" violence
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:21 PM
May 2015

explicit rapes and sexual assault, and "hollywood glamgasms"

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. good for you. i do not want to be entertained y that either. i am not seeing anything,
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:25 PM
May 2015

but someone who saw can better inform.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
27. Well it's definitely not "Saw," or "Hostel."
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:37 PM
May 2015

It's more "action" than "violence," but the movie makes clear that the post-apocalypse 1%ers rely entirely on the latter (even more than our current 1%ers do) to keep societal structure (such as it is) "enforced."

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
28. exactly. thank you. yes. lol. right there with you. and i am an adult. not even talking
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:40 PM
May 2015

about teenager.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
36. I'm taking mine
Wed May 13, 2015, 01:48 PM
May 2015

My two girls are 12 and 15, and saw the original films last year as I continue my film education for them by exposing them to a wide range of material.

When I showed them the trailer for this, they were jaws dropped about it. They're quite excited by it.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
42. First time in a long time that I am genuinely excited to see a film..
Wed May 13, 2015, 03:15 PM
May 2015

tell me, does it have any memorable lines worthy of using, like Mad Max and the Road Warrior do? My friends and I often use pop cultural references from both.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
43. "Oh what a day, what a lovely day!"
Wed May 13, 2015, 03:34 PM
May 2015

...as the character Nux says.

Of course that's been used as a tagline on the one-sheet, too.

Of course, there's also "We are not things," which is part of the anti-1% themes in the film, which has the rightwingers -- for whom we are all "things" -- so up in arms...

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
45. It does sound like a fantastic ride.
Wed May 13, 2015, 06:51 PM
May 2015

Don't go to many movies anymore but I may make an exception this time.

Is this going to be released in IMAX format?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
48. I saw it today in 3D, and villager's review is spot on- I also heartily recommend it
Fri May 15, 2015, 10:40 PM
May 2015

This particular theater has an excellent 3D setup, so it was well worth the extra $ to me.

It *is* violent, and definitely not for 12-and-unders. Having said that:
If this sounds like your cup of tea, by all means- GO! You won't be sorry...

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
50. Why... thank you, Friendly! And you even saw it in 3-D!
Fri May 15, 2015, 11:11 PM
May 2015

I was sold on the thing in 2-D in a mid-size projection room!

edbermac

(15,949 posts)
49. Hard to top the Road Warrior.
Fri May 15, 2015, 10:55 PM
May 2015

Great chase scenes, colorful villains and the goofy helicopter pilot as comic relief.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
64. Well, one does miss Bruce Spence and the gryo pilot
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:51 PM
May 2015

...and his calling Max a "crafty little man," as he bursts out of the sands...

dilby

(2,273 posts)
55. I wish I never saw this movie.
Sat May 16, 2015, 03:54 AM
May 2015

From this point on I will never be able to enjoy another action movie. Mad Max Fury Road is to action movies what the original Star Wars was to Sci-Fi movies, it's the movie that has set the standard on what I will accept as a good movie for the genre. I loved the originals by George Miller but this is his masterpiece, if they never make another Mad Max movie I will be content because I don't know if they will ever be able to make something as incredible as this movie.

Mad Max Fury Road has minimal character development, minimal dialogue and a ton of action with amazing stunts packed into two hours of a beautifully shot movie. If you see the movie, enjoy the two hour separation from reality and don't be surprised an hour after the movie if you start to think about all the little details that were in the movie. like what they made the gas pedal out of or what was being tattooed on him and all sorts of other little details.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
63. I know what you mean. Other action films will be calibrated against it.
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:38 PM
May 2015

We even joked, leaving the screening, about what Marvel was going to do now...

And with Hardy signed for two more "Max" films, you wonder how they can even match themselves? It would seem the "chase" film is, er, "Max"ed out now. Perhaps they'll have to take a different (non-Thunderdome?) tack in exploring their own cinematic apocalyptic universe...

longship

(40,416 posts)
57. Sorry. I have no desire to see a Mel Gibson remake.
Sat May 16, 2015, 05:39 AM
May 2015

Remakes are bad enough. (Hollywood has no fucking imagination whatsoever.) But one based on a Mel Gibson movie has got to be rubbish. A remake of rubbish can only be rubbish.

Oh! But the feminist message? I could sympathize with that if it wasn't based on rubbish to begin with.

I have a rule which I have adhered to since I wasted my money on the remake of "The Haunting". No more remakes. (Especially of Mel Gibson originals.)

dilby

(2,273 posts)
58. Except it was not a remake and Mel Gibson was only an actor in the originals.
Sat May 16, 2015, 08:41 AM
May 2015

This movie is from the mind of George Miller who has made great movies, Mel Gibson is not getting anything by you seeing this movie.

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