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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed May 13, 2015, 05:37 AM May 2015

7 CHARTS Show the SOCIALIST HELLSCAPE America Would Be Under Bernie Sanders

These Charts showing America's downfall under 'social democratic policies' should send chills down your spine!



Earlier this month on ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos asked Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) whether he actually believed a self-described socialist could be elected president of the United States. Sanders suggested that if more Americans were acquainted with the quality of life in countries in Scandinavia, they wouldn't be frightened by the label. Knowing that Scandinavia is nothing short of hell on earth, Stephanopoulos zeroed in on the absurdity of Sanders' point: "I can hear the Republican attack ad right now: 'He wants America to look more like Scandinavia.'" "What's wrong with that?" Sanders replied. Stephanopoulos was right to be skeptical that Sanders could get away with such a comparison. Scandinavian countries' social democratic policies of exceptionally high tax rates and heavy government involvement in the provision of services has been nothing short of catastrophic.


America should do whatever it takes to ensure it doesn't suffer the same fate. Take a look at the facts on what their policies would do to the U.S.




1. Access to quality health care would simply plummet.

Having the government step into services like health care would create massive public health challenges. Just look at how many people in Sweden lack access to affordable health care:




2. Health care costs would go through the roof.

Countries such as Norway believe that the government can manage some things better than the market. As you can see, this has resulted in loads of wasted money:





3. Our education system would be a joke.

Scandinavian countries have little interest in investing in their youth:




4. We would be overrun by violent crime.

With their gentle open-air prisons and their low ceilings for maximum sentencing, Scandinavian countries are havens for criminals:




5. America would just wallow in poverty.

The prosperity of Scandinavian countries — measured as a combination of wealth and well-being — captures just how bad their citizens have it:




6. Unemployment would skyrocket.

Scandinavian governments have suffocated the labor market and encouraged joblessness:




7. Everyone would be miserable.

Between the dark winters and the knowledge that any ambition will only be rewarded with more taxes, people aren't satisfied with life in Scandinavia:




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7 CHARTS Show the SOCIALIST HELLSCAPE America Would Be Under Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Segami May 2015 OP
The comparison to Norway is not very relevant. Yorktown May 2015 #1
HELLSCAPE!!!! Kalidurga May 2015 #2
American Exceptionalism... Segami May 2015 #3
Not a single one of those things.... MaggieD May 2015 #4
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast May 2015 #5
Bazinga! 99Forever May 2015 #6
While I'm all for accessible healthcare and education... JaneyVee May 2015 #7
Ever heard of economy of scale? Demeter May 2015 #8
Of course I have, I have 2 degrees in economics... JaneyVee May 2015 #10
To implement, remove the money in politics Demeter May 2015 #11
Oh I agree, all I'm saying is.... JaneyVee May 2015 #12
Off topic slightly, but... PotatoChip May 2015 #16
We are a greedy, selfish bunch. that is what we are... We don't care about our neighbors. They DO secondwind May 2015 #9
I love these charts, and how they were presented. PotatoChip May 2015 #13
. stonecutter357 May 2015 #14
This is PURE hell! octoberlib May 2015 #15
Because Bernie Sanders has a magic wand and would magically make the USA KittyWampus May 2015 #17
Ridiculous, everyone knows that decent food/shelter/education/health care makes you worthless/lazy bigbrother05 May 2015 #18
 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
1. The comparison to Norway is not very relevant.
Wed May 13, 2015, 06:10 AM
May 2015

Sweden or Denmark, OK, but not Norway.

Their oil income per head makes comparison impossible.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
7. While I'm all for accessible healthcare and education...
Wed May 13, 2015, 07:42 AM
May 2015

It seems a bit silly to compare Norway to America. Norway has a population of 5 million people, the tiny island I live on the east coast has 12 million. America has 320 million.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
10. Of course I have, I have 2 degrees in economics...
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:12 AM
May 2015

I'm not talking necessarily about cost, I'm talking about implementation. Bernie and the Governor could barely get it done in Vermont.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
11. To implement, remove the money in politics
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:17 AM
May 2015

and get an additional boost of savings to the economy, as well.

Not only can it be done, it must be done for the sake of the nation and all we want it to be.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
12. Oh I agree, all I'm saying is....
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:21 AM
May 2015

It's a hell of a lot easier to get things done in a country of 5 million than one with 320 million. The cost isn't the problem, Republicans and those hostile to change are. And our country is filled with regressives.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
16. Off topic slightly, but...
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:50 AM
May 2015

I just spent the past weekend (and part of Friday night/Monday morning) on your 'little island'.

(The kidlet lives there)

Anyway, I was looking out at the panoramic view from my daughter's terrace in W. Chelsea, and a very similar thought to what you just mentioned occurred to me: The entire population of the state of Maine is 1.3 million, yet in just the view I had, just what my eyes could see from her floor, probably contained more people than that!

It was kind of mind blowing.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
13. I love these charts, and how they were presented.
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:33 AM
May 2015


(Your flag too, despite how depressing the current state of affairs happens to be.)

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
15. This is PURE hell!
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:43 AM
May 2015

What kind of socialist/Marxist nightmare does he want to inflict upon the US? Why does he want us to have as strong a social safety net as EVERY OTHER WESTERN DEMOCRACY?!

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
17. Because Bernie Sanders has a magic wand and would magically make the USA
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:52 AM
May 2015

a socialist democracy overnight after the inauguration.

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