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Senate Has 63 Aye Votes... (Original Post) ChiciB1 May 2015 OP
Assholes. eloydude May 2015 #1
AYE means what exactly?,,,,,,,,,,,, benld74 May 2015 #2
It means the end of the world, apparently alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #3
Oh snap! leftofcool May 2015 #6
WOW, Your Drama Is Showing... n/t ChiciB1 May 2015 #18
It means that once the President submits the TPP for final approval, Congress can not amend it. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #5
Not even close! yallerdawg May 2015 #9
Even if the Fast Track passes, it is still not the end of the world. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #15
It means debate begins in the Senat on Trade Promotion Authority cali May 2015 #19
Thanks Cali, For Defining This Much Better Than Me... n/t ChiciB1 May 2015 #22
This means they get to go home and can claim they voted against it before they voted for it. leveymg May 2015 #27
Yeah, Neat Shell Game! n/t ChiciB1 May 2015 #29
It means the republicans got everything they wanted. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #10
Oh bullshit. The Dems wanted something in return for their vote and when they got it they voted. okaawhatever May 2015 #11
Obama the bully! Cali_Democrat May 2015 #13
worthless chickenshit hacks villager May 2015 #4
I KNEW Nelson Would Do It! ChiciB1 May 2015 #7
That is probably why he voted yes. I imagine the yes voters either represent a state with a lot okaawhatever May 2015 #17
I Let His Office Know I WILL Be Letting Everyone ChiciB1 May 2015 #25
Means TPA and TAA passed cloture vote. yallerdawg May 2015 #8
I Know House Isn't As Slap Happy, But ChiciB1 May 2015 #12
My senators caved LittleBlue May 2015 #14
Where is the list of traitors! Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #16
I Was Trying To Keep Up, BUT I Did Hear That ChiciB1 May 2015 #21
I Think Thom Hartmann Is Going To List Names ChiciB1 May 2015 #23
all i care about Robbins May 2015 #24
Trying To Get The Names... n/t ChiciB1 May 2015 #26
Another win for the Not As Bad wing of the party. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #20
Swell. City Lights May 2015 #28
13 traitors Robbins May 2015 #30
Vote them OUT!! bob4460 May 2015 #31
well Robbins May 2015 #32

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. It means that once the President submits the TPP for final approval, Congress can not amend it.
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:24 PM
May 2015

They can only approve or disapprove, and, I believe, the time to look over the TPP will be limited to 90 days.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. Not even close!
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

The House won't vote on TPA until after Memorial Day!

The Senate has only ended filibuster rule. Still have to vote up or down.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
15. Even if the Fast Track passes, it is still not the end of the world.
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:32 PM
May 2015

Since Republicans control the legislative process, and the Democrats aren't all that interested in stopping it, I think that Fast Track is more likely than not to pass.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. It means debate begins in the Senat on Trade Promotion Authority
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:34 PM
May 2015

then a vote and then on to the House where the real fight over the TPA will commence (harder to get it through the House), then more TPP negotiating, mostly with Japan, over some pretty big sticking points (auto parts, rice and a couple of other issues). Then, in 2-5 months, it's introduced and we have a chance to see it.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. This means they get to go home and can claim they voted against it before they voted for it.
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:56 PM
May 2015

Or say they hadn't read all of it, or didn't understand. Or mix up the answers, depending upon who the audience is.

Just like the IWR vote(s). They truly are a bunch of slime balls. Almost all of them.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
10. It means the republicans got everything they wanted.
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

And the staunchest Obama supporters can breathe a sigh of relief because he bullied into submission everyone who didn't see eye to eye with him, thus saving face and guaranteeing an electricity-shitting Unicorn for all.

Course you'll have to trust him on the Unicorn part.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
11. Oh bullshit. The Dems wanted something in return for their vote and when they got it they voted.
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:31 PM
May 2015

The Dems forced the Republicans into submission on what they wanted.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
17. That is probably why he voted yes. I imagine the yes voters either represent a state with a lot
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:32 PM
May 2015

of export (or potential) export trade or senators who can get reelected no matter what.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
25. I Let His Office Know I WILL Be Letting Everyone
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:42 PM
May 2015

I Know and more just how crappy he is! They don't like me very much, I call all the time.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. Means TPA and TAA passed cloture vote.
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:25 PM
May 2015

Now they move to Senate debate and amendment. And up or down vote.

Then back to House.


ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
12. I Know House Isn't As Slap Happy, But
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:31 PM
May 2015

I wonder if anything will change. I NEVER hold out HOPE anymore. Pretty much a foreign word for me.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
21. I Was Trying To Keep Up, BUT I Did Hear That
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:37 PM
May 2015

Schumer, Feinstein voted AYE, several others who came out against right from the start. Cruz, Rubio, Bill Nlson voted AYE, Cruz showed up this time.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
24. all i care about
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:42 PM
May 2015

is who voted no.They are real dems in senate.

For me on economic policy being a dem and against free trade deals is litmus test.They hurt working people and kill unions.

The TPP has clauses that kill democracy.Corporations can now file claims to override US laws.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
30. 13 traitors
Thu May 14, 2015, 03:14 PM
May 2015

Sen. Michael Bennet (Colo.), Maria Cantwell (Wash.), Tom Carper (Del.), Chris Coons (Del.), Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Tim Kaine (Va.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Patty Murray (Wash.), Bill Nelson (Fla.), Jeanne Shaheem (N.H.), Mark Warner (Va.) and Ron Wyden (Ore.).

I am done ever voting and supporting McCaskill here In Missouri again.


Robbins

(5,066 posts)
32. well
Thu May 14, 2015, 03:26 PM
May 2015

On twitter i told McCaskill i am very disappointed she voted to screw over american worker in favor of corporations and then unfollowed her on twitter.I also unfollowed both obama and reid on twitter.

I just think it's laughable the dems who always beg for money from people.They can just get it from corporations.They are only ones
they care about.

With Bernie sanders at least he is working against trade deals.And his campagin is funded by the people not corporations.

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