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applegrove

(118,497 posts)
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:12 PM May 2015

America is giving up on political parties and organized religion. Thanks, millennials.

America is giving up on political parties and organized religion. Thanks, millennials.

By Philip Bump at the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/05/12/america-is-getting-less-religious-as-it-gives-up-on-political-parties-thanks-millennials/

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A survey from Pew Research that offers national detail on global religious trends shows that Americans are increasingly identifying themselves as religiously unaffiliated. Since 2007, the number of Americans who don't identify with a religious tradition rose from 16.1 to 22.8 percent -- the biggest change of any group that Pew studied.

The group most likely to identify as unaffiliated? Millennials -- those born after 1980. (Pew's definition of the generations is used below for consistency, but we remind you that the definitions are subjective. They also break out older and younger millennials; the figures are similar enough for the chart below that we just used the former category.)

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The same pattern holds.

There's overlap between the two, as well. In April, Pew found that white evangelical Protestants had grown increasingly Republican, with 68 percent identifying as or leaning Republican. That's a group that fell one percentage point, making up just over a quarter of the population in the new religion survey. The unaffiliated are a slightly smaller segment of the population -- and skew much more heavily Democratic. Sixty-one percent identified or leaned toward the party.

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America is giving up on political parties and organized religion. Thanks, millennials. (Original Post) applegrove May 2015 OP
They are also most unlikely to vote or get involved. onehandle May 2015 #1
Not the Millennials I know. silverweb May 2015 #3
Thanks for the reality check....nt Jesus Malverde May 2015 #8
lulz Jesus Malverde May 2015 #7
Don't be too harsh on all us boomers. silverweb May 2015 #9
Agreed! Jesus Malverde May 2015 #12
^5 silverweb May 2015 #13
You can only preach hate and intolerance for so long before people get sick of it. Initech May 2015 #2
I do think the GOP bubble is leaking. applegrove May 2015 #4
Good - they know con men when they see 'em. That's a step in the right direction... polichick May 2015 #5
I don't do religion, and I really don't do political parties. bigwillq May 2015 #6
Certainly true of my 28 year old son. cali May 2015 #10
I swear every time this type of poll comes out I'm in a different generation. NutmegYankee May 2015 #11
Told someone in the bar earlier this week that I thought politicizing religion is driving people ... ieoeja May 2015 #14
It's about time we cast aside the BS institutions that... Taitertots May 2015 #15

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
3. Not the Millennials I know.
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:34 PM
May 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]And I know quite a few. They're educated, informed, and very involved.

I also think the current stats on religion - where they're dropping out because of bigotry, intolerance, suppression of women, and churches' support for GOP policy positions - speak to their awareness and involvement.

It's up to the Democrats to make their case compelling and arouse the passion of those Millennials who haven't yet become involved: Get them angry at the TeaGOP for hateful regressive policies, give them hope that things can still be changed and a liveable planet saved, and make them want to fight back. I really think Bernie can do that.

No, Millennials aren't the problem. They're a major part of the solution.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
7. lulz
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:48 AM
May 2015

From the tune in, turn on and drop out generation. The generation that brought us Reagan, the war on drugs, cheap junk from China, debt to maintain middle class lifestyles, student loans for life and massive deficits.

Gen X/Y says thanks boomers!

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
9. Don't be too harsh on all us boomers.
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:36 AM
May 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Like every other age group, we've got plenty of good ones, and then we've got the fundies and corporatists.

As for Gen X/Y, I'm mother to one of each and they're both very progressive and very actively involved, as are their friends - probably the reason why they're friends, not surprisingly. I've also met young canvassers and activists who are absolutely inspiring.

Also, I also know a couple from each age group who are generally oblivious, fatalistic, and seemingly don't give a shit about much beyond their immediate pleasures.

Presumably, the OP knows only the latter sort of Millennials, a very poor representation, but also the very ones who most need to be reached out to, motivated, and mobilized. Putting them all down en masse won't accomplish that for any age group.

Initech

(100,040 posts)
2. You can only preach hate and intolerance for so long before people get sick of it.
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:32 PM
May 2015

And I think people are starting to get the message. The Southern Strategy is proving to be an epic fail.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
5. Good - they know con men when they see 'em. That's a step in the right direction...
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:48 PM
May 2015

Hopefully, they'll figure out the next steps too.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
6. I don't do religion, and I really don't do political parties.
Thu May 14, 2015, 11:28 PM
May 2015

I am a registered DEM, but I am not a loyalist. I vote for candidates. I think the two-party system stinks, as does the lesser of two evil option. I often vote for neither and vote for a third-party/independent.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. Certainly true of my 28 year old son.
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:47 AM
May 2015

He holds a truckload of contempt for our political system. He doesn't even entertain the thought of republicans but he has a lot of disdain for dems as well, though he likes our reps, but then as he says, Vermont is different.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
11. I swear every time this type of poll comes out I'm in a different generation.
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:50 AM
May 2015

I identify with the millennials, but as a 1980 birth year, this poll calls me Gen X. It's all bullshit.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
14. Told someone in the bar earlier this week that I thought politicizing religion is driving people ...
Fri May 15, 2015, 10:21 AM
May 2015

... away from religion. Who wants to sit in a church being told they are going to Hell for voting Democratic?

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