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LogCabinRepublicans ? @LogCabinGOP
@RonHogan We keep working - and the truth is, Republicans are moving on this issue, too. Recall, it took Republicans to win marriage in NY.
http://twitter.com/#!/logcabingop
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I sincerely doubt they are moving forward or anywhere near marriage equality.
yourout
(7,524 posts)rurallib
(62,373 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)The GOP certainly shits on their own Log Cabiners.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)And that gay marriage vote in NY was a statistical oddity. I doubt that any other state's Republicans would do the same.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)Moving backwards is still "moving."
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Only 4 Republicans in the NY Senate voted for it. 29 did not.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Log Cabin nincompoops can call it "moving"; I call it "skittering like cockroaches."
Are they?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)will come as a shock to them:
Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus released the following statement follwing news of Obamas gay marriage decision:
Reince Priebus.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/rnc-chair-obama-played-politics-on-gay-marriage
yellowcanine
(35,693 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)that literally one of the first few Republicans to BLAST President Obama over his decision to publicly endorse marriage equality were Log Cabin ones. One might expect a true LGBT organization to offer some measure of praise for the endorsement and blast the party that is- aside from a few notable exceptions- not only standing in the way of advancing LGBT equality but trying to turn back the clock and stuff LGBTs back into the closet. Whatever the Log Cabin Republicans are up to, it has to be a sham. There is simply no other explanation for their group's, frankly bizarre behavior when it comes to President Obama and his advocacy for expanding THEIR rights.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...the GOP somehow captured them and have held them for so long they can't stop identifying with the Repukes. I swear they'll be excusing and insisting that the GOP is moving along and going to come around any minute now even as the Momon elders and Catholic bishops send them off in cattle cars to Bachmann's conversion therapy camp.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)it's pretty damned severe and they need immediate help. IMHO they should just roll up their tent (or cabin) and stop pretending they care about LGBT rights and start recognizing the fact that their sole goal is to elect Republicans no matter how virulently anti-gay 99.999999999999999% of the party is (and will continue to be as long as the fundies have a presence within the party). My growing suspicion is that they exist more or less as an attempt by the GOP to drive a wedge between LGBT persons and the Democratic Party much in the same way that they create other similar GOP "front" groups in their vain effort to bleed Democratic support from other traditional Democratic constituencies (pretty much everybody but the 1%).
Tarheel_Dem
(31,220 posts)This speaks volumes as I've often scratched my head at the outright venom toward this president, who by all accounts, has done more in the way of advancing LGBT rights than any of his predecessors. I think they hate him more, with each advancement. Just take a look around this very board. It's truly baffling.
"My growing suspicion is that they exist more or less as an attempt by the GOP to drive a wedge between LGBT persons and the Democratic Party much in the same way that they create other similar GOP "front" groups in their vain effort to bleed Democratic support from other traditional Democratic constituencies (pretty much everybody but the 1%)."
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)How many LGBT people are going to take any such group seriously if they belong to the GOP? No matter what they do, no matter what court cases they support, that they belong to an vehemently homophobic party is always going to mark their foreheads. Which doesn't make the group credible and, therefore, doesn't make them able to create a wedge.
The GOP does better with Palin who connects to women with five kids. SHE can create a wedge between women and democrats by saying she represents women that the democrats don't represent because Dems don't have a seemingly down-home woman with five kids as their spokeswoman. But the Log Cabin Republicans? What do they have that can connect with LGBT that overshadows the homophobia of the party they belong to?
Until they do have something or someone that does that, I can't take seriously the idea of them existing as a wedge. I think they exist only because they've got psychologic problems.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)but the GOP (and their Log Cabin contingent) probably believe that if they hang a shingle out that they are a LGBT rights group and at least pretend to act like one, they figure they might *might* lure some LGBTers into their fold, maybe not a lot but maybe enough to deprive Democrats of at least a few votes. It's no different then them creating affiliated groups ("window dressing" pretending to support women, African-Americans, Hispanics, et. al. Most people aren't going to bite but the point is not really to get people to vote for them but rather to get people to NOT vote for Dems. This may not be as much of winning strategy for them as it once was but I honestly believe that these groups are not legitimate LGBT rights groups and their motives are rather suspect.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...I know it's easier and more palatable to suspect their motives or view them as not legit. Because it's embarrassing to think of anyone in any minority group being that, well, blindly foolish. But if there's anything I've learned since Bush took office, it's that people can be that idiotic and self-destructive. Consider those dirt poor idiots who insist that the "south will rise again!" And so keep voting against their own interests, against the party that would better their lives, all in hopes of winning that one magical lottery that the other side seems to promise them.
The evidence against their belief doesn't matter. I mean, the GOP has effectively said to the Cabin Boys here that they're not allowed to participate. There's a "Heterosexuals only" sign and they have to sit elsewhere. Yet there the Log Cabinites remain as fierce and faithful to the GOP as kicked dogs. This is nothing, alas, new. It's the unshakable belief that if they hang in there, prove themselves, then one day they will be welcomed into that 1% country club. The Democrats can't promise them a place in that special club. So no matter what abuse they have to take, they will take it. Because what they really want only the GOP can give them. And the truth, that the GOP won't ever let them in, is impossible for them to accept or see.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...they're BOWEL moving on the issue. YUCK!
PEACE!