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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:23 PM May 2015

Harry Reid: Hillary Clinton "has a clear field"...."right now we have Hillary Clinton and that's it"

Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says in an interview airing Friday that Hillary Clinton “has a clear field” to the Democratic presidential nomination, but the party lacks an “all-star” challenger like President Obama.

"Right now we have Hillary Clinton. And that's it," Reid says.

"There's not another Barack Obama out there. There are no all-stars out there," he says, based on a transcript of the interview set to air Friday on "The Rundown with José Díaz-Balart."

The comments from Reid would appear to serve as a response to a Telemundo anchor who asked if there is any concern about a lack of debate among Democratic candidates. (The GOP field is much larger and growing.)

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/242182-reid-clinton-has-a-clear-field

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Harry Reid: Hillary Clinton "has a clear field"...."right now we have Hillary Clinton and that's it" (Original Post) Cali_Democrat May 2015 OP
Harry has ignored other progressive candidates. It doesn't surprise me in the least.... think May 2015 #1
So have most Democrats NobodyHere May 2015 #13
It's the same mistake he made in 2008. He pledged his Exilednight May 2015 #41
Lol whatever whatchamacallit May 2015 #2
Don't most polls currently show Hillary taking the Dem nomination handily? Cali_Democrat May 2015 #12
Most of the polled don't yet know the other candidates from Adam whatchamacallit May 2015 #14
Here's to a great campaign season! Cali_Democrat May 2015 #16
On this whatchamacallit May 2015 #17
Hillary Clinton isn't a Barrack Obama either. Marr May 2015 #3
Bernie Sanders isn't a Barack Obama either... brooklynite May 2015 #5
You're right. Sanders is honest. Marr May 2015 #7
To paraphrase a comment from 2008...she's charismatic enough brooklynite May 2015 #8
Wall Street certainly seems to think so. /nt Marr May 2015 #9
...and so do 18 million Democratic voters... brooklynite May 2015 #28
Yep, she's inevitable. Again. Marr May 2015 #29
its because people like you eloydude May 2015 #39
No, I'm definitely Center... brooklynite May 2015 #40
Well you are supporting someone whos to the right of Obama eloydude May 2015 #42
Other than the IWR, name an issue where they differ significantly. brooklynite May 2015 #43
That is disingenuous AJH032 May 2015 #20
I kept hearing that, but here is the only place... daleanime May 2015 #26
This site is literally the only place I encounter enthusiastic Hillary supporters. Marr May 2015 #30
wait, you mean Bernie isn't running? O'Malley isn't scheduled to announce? cali May 2015 #4
No, he's saying they're not consequential candidates. brooklynite May 2015 #6
wow. you parsed out that's what he was saying all on your own? cali May 2015 #22
Reid would enjoy a lack of debate mylye2222 May 2015 #10
Talk about Democrats eating their own bigwillq May 2015 #11
Yeah, the hypocrite, Sherrod Brown, comes to mind. Cha May 2015 #31
Congressional leaders failed to give appropriate opportunities daredtowork May 2015 #15
He couldn't be more correct. Hillary's only "serious" challengers would be 2nd or 3rd tier tritsofme May 2015 #18
There's an all-star alright. Her first name is Elizabeth. hedda_foil May 2015 #19
Who's this "we" he speaks of? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #21
HR is right. Jamaal510 May 2015 #23
So does Harry expect the primary debate to have only Hillary in it? rock May 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #25
+ AtomicKitten May 2015 #38
We have the Silent Corporate Champion, aspirant May 2015 #27
That statement is going to piss a few off. hrmjustin May 2015 #32
What Reid said is just plain rude and condescending. Been enough of that in our party. madfloridian May 2015 #33
Wire service? Plagarism? Three articles, two bylines, 3 time stamps or 3 time zones? Cerridwen May 2015 #34
No more all-stars!! pity nt fadedrose May 2015 #35
"The Rundown with José Díaz-Balart"? KamaAina May 2015 #36
The fix is in. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #37

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
41. It's the same mistake he made in 2008. He pledged his
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:11 PM
May 2015

SD to Hillary very early, and then shifted sides.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. Don't most polls currently show Hillary taking the Dem nomination handily?
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:47 PM
May 2015

I haven't followed them recently but I do seem to recall polls showing Hillary far ahead of the field.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
14. Most of the polled don't yet know the other candidates from Adam
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:52 PM
May 2015

Hopefully a rigorous campaign season will balance things.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
3. Hillary Clinton isn't a Barrack Obama either.
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:33 PM
May 2015

She's just got a massive pile of corporate cash. He was the corporate candidate, too, of course-- but there's no denying the man has tremendous charisma and skill as a politician.

I can't even express how pitiful it is that Hillary Clinton is openly regarded as 'the only viable candidate', solely because she's got the support of Wall Street.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
5. Bernie Sanders isn't a Barack Obama either...
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:36 PM
May 2015

He doesn't have anything approaching the organization, financial resources and political support Obama had lined up at this point in 2007.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
7. You're right. Sanders is honest.
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:36 PM
May 2015

But I'm glad you can admit that Hillary is no more charismatic than Bernie.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
28. ...and so do 18 million Democratic voters...
Fri May 15, 2015, 03:50 PM
May 2015

Bernie Sanders is going to have to show how he becomes as popular as Obama was to match her.

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
39. its because people like you
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:41 PM
May 2015

Want someone who suck up to the 1% like yourself.

Bernie will hand Hillary her keys to her Chappaqua home when he gets the 99% on his side, and becomes a flag bearer for the Democratic Party.

You just confirmed, by supporting Clinton, that you are right of center and lurching to the right.

Wrong direction.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
40. No, I'm definitely Center...
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:08 PM
May 2015

...but I'm fighting like hell to make sure we don't elect a very right of center Republican because our nominee is too left of center to be competitive.

AJH032

(1,124 posts)
20. That is disingenuous
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:47 PM
May 2015

"Hillary Clinton is openly regarded as the only viable candidate, solely because she's got the support of wall street"? Whether we want to recognize it or not, she has broad support all over the country. I don't think it's fair to suggest that the sole reason for her candidacy is wall street support.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
26. I kept hearing that, but here is the only place...
Fri May 15, 2015, 03:16 PM
May 2015

where I talk to voters who are enthused about her candidacy. Those I talk to in person range from resigned to distressed.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
30. This site is literally the only place I encounter enthusiastic Hillary supporters.
Fri May 15, 2015, 04:06 PM
May 2015

Well, here and a couple of news-type blogs. She's nowhere in my social media, I don't hear anyone talking about her, and I've seen literally one bumper sticker (which I'm pretty sure was from 2008).

I think her 'support' is a mile wide and inch deep-- and utterly dependent on the message that she is the only viable candidate.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. wait, you mean Bernie isn't running? O'Malley isn't scheduled to announce?
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:35 PM
May 2015

Poor Harry, that accident seems to have affected his cognitive function.

And you're so cute with your contempt for Bernie and O'Malley. adorable.

kisses

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
6. No, he's saying they're not consequential candidates.
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:36 PM
May 2015

You're welcome to disagree, but a lot of political observers would say likewise.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. wow. you parsed out that's what he was saying all on your own?
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:57 PM
May 2015

or you couldn't puzzle out that I obviously knew what he was saying? You must be the life of the ... salon.

And candidates are "inconsequential"... until they aren't. That does happen. It's hardly outside the realm of possibility that it will happen again. Aside from President Obama's political chops, there are reasons that Hillary didn't prevail in 2008.

Oh, and a lot of political pundits and observers are saying the opposite- not that Bernie will beat her but that he's hardly inconsequential already. There was an interesting back and forth between Heilemann and Halperin on that a couple of days ago. They're hardly alone.

Oh, and thanks for falling for my satirical Brady piece.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
10. Reid would enjoy a lack of debate
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:38 PM
May 2015

For many Democrats a unique candidate (Hillary) would be the best. Unfortunely it wont happen. Sorry, Third Wayers. People enjoy real primaries not coronations.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
15. Congressional leaders failed to give appropriate opportunities
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:54 PM
May 2015

All Stars are created by opportunities to be in the spotlight - working on key committees, issuing important bills, and weighing in on issues of International scale.

IMHO, Barbara Lee is an All Star, but she hasn't had the opportunities in the last category. Given the tenor of her speeches, I think she has in fact shunned them, because she has been making a point to emphasize domestic problems. She notes that the US has a bad habit of policing the world and using jingoism as a distraction from impending infrastructure disasters right here. This emphasis on domestic issues might make Barbara Lee seem like she lacks "International stature" - but it actually means she's standing up for the people who live here in the United States: unlike the rest of our so-called representatives who are standing up for an supra-national oligarchy.

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
18. He couldn't be more correct. Hillary's only "serious" challengers would be 2nd or 3rd tier
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:33 PM
May 2015

candidates in any other cycle.

Hillary is the clear consensus candidate among Democrats, and the field is extremely clear.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
19. There's an all-star alright. Her first name is Elizabeth.
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:40 PM
May 2015

Her last name is Warren. Only trouble is she keeps refusing to run.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
23. HR is right.
Fri May 15, 2015, 03:03 PM
May 2015

HC has all the name recognition and money on her side this time, and while Obama's campaign succeeded in '08, he was more heavily financed than HC's challengers this time around. O hit the pavement running earlier. He also had a unique background going for him (e.g. where he grew up, his race, his last name, and his upbringing), which intrigued the media early on. The political world might not see another candidate with his influence for a long time.

rock

(13,218 posts)
24. So does Harry expect the primary debate to have only Hillary in it?
Fri May 15, 2015, 03:06 PM
May 2015

Obvious that Harry isn't interested in what the truth is, he just wants to influence your vote.

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
27. We have the Silent Corporate Champion,
Fri May 15, 2015, 03:19 PM
May 2015

we have and had the Charismatic Campaign Flipper and now we have the Truth-Teller.

This is a simple choice for me.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. What Reid said is just plain rude and condescending. Been enough of that in our party.
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:12 PM
May 2015

He is indicating that the supporters of Bernie Sanders are not important enough to mention.

Cerridwen

(13,252 posts)
34. Wire service? Plagarism? Three articles, two bylines, 3 time stamps or 3 time zones?
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:31 PM
May 2015

Based on a randys1 OP about truck drivers and the teaparty, I googled "truck driver vote teaparty" and found myself a teaparty.org which led me to newsmax.

Tell me if these two articles look familiar. Take note of the timestamps, sourcing, and bylines.

From teaparty.org



May 15, 2015 10:10 am

(Newsmax) – Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid has proclaimed that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has “a clear field” to cinch the nomination, but said the party lacked an “all-star” candidate like President Barack Obama.

“Right now we have Hillary Clinton. And that’s it,” Reid said in an interview with “The Rundown with Jose Diaz-Balart,” according to The Hill.

“There’s not another Barack Obama out there. There are no all-stars out there,” he said.

<snip>

“Think how wonderful that primary was. Two all-stars. Two people that will be in the political hall of fame no matter what happens in the future, and they were involved in a primary,” Reid said in the interview to be aired Friday.

<snip for 4 paragraphs with link to article: here>


Notice it references this article at newsmax, timestamped Friday, 15 May 2015 12:13 PM with the byline: By Melanie Batley. Two hours, 3 minutes later than the article at teaparty.org that cited it as source. Time Zone. What about authorship/byline?

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid has proclaimed that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has "a clear field" to cinch the nomination, but said the party lacked an "all-star" candidate like President Barack Obama.

"Right now we have Hillary Clinton. And that's it," Reid said in an interview with "The Rundown with Jose Diaz-Balart," according to The Hill.

"There's not another Barack Obama out there. There are no all-stars out there," he said.

<snip>

"Think how wonderful that primary was. Two all-stars. Two people that will be in the political hall of fame no matter what happens in the future, and they were involved in a primary," Reid said in the interview to be aired Friday.

<snip for 4 paragraph limit with link to article: here>


Compare the articles. They look an awful lot alike to me. Close enough? Too close?

Common practice? Plagarism? Wire service?

I'm confused.

DU journalists have information for me? Please.


 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
36. "The Rundown with José Díaz-Balart"?
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:34 PM
May 2015

Of the Miami Castro-hating irredentist Diaz-Balarts? Is Telemundo angling to be Fox en espanol?

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