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underpants

(195,571 posts)
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:32 PM May 2015

AMTRAK derailment (of logic) by Jonah Goldberg and Rush Limbaugh

Fox Attacks Calls For More Amtrak Spending As ‘Ghoulish’ ‘War Profiteering’

http://www.newshounds.us/fox_attacks_calls_for_more_amtrak_spending_as_ghoulish_war_profiteering_051515

Fox’s Neil Cavuto continued defending Republican spending cuts to Amtrak, even in the wake of this week’s deadly train crash – by attacking those who think Amtrak’s funding should be increased.

Guest Jonah Goldberg was the designated attacker. He said calls for more Amtrak spending are “ghoulish,” and “the civil society equivalent of war profiteering.”

[font color = blue] As compared to 9/11???[/font]
GOLDBERG: If this had been a terrorist attack and people had, before the bodies were even cleared, started talking about how this means we have to have more Pentagon funding, the same people who were screaming about how we need to fund this boondoggle of Amtrak would be crying, “How dare you try to profit off of the deaths of these people? Let ‘em get buried first.”

But Cavuto didn’t challenge the smear. So Goldberg kept it up. He said the calls for more funding are “the most craven, opportunistic, and shameless money grubbing by people who just want to pour good money after bad into a 19th century technology that I think I’ve ever seen.”


Goldberg also called high speed rail is “an inefficient and silly thing to pursue.” He said, “We move freight by trains in America, we move people by automobiles.” He accused train supporters of wanting to “organize this aspect of our economy because of their envy for European train travel."



[font color=blue]----- Not that there is any collusion here but let's see what Limbaugh said about this----[/font]



Utterly Predictable Democrats Take Advantage of Train Crash Tragedy
May 14, 2015

NOT linking his site to DU

So idiots that read the New York Times are supposed to conclude that the derailment happened because the Republicans are cheap, and don't care about people and don't like trains. "That's right, the Republicans don't like trains. You know why? Because trains are big in Europe, and the Democrats love Europe, and leftists love Europe. That means leftists love trains, and Republicans hate Europe, and Republicans hate leftists, and Republicans hate socialists, and socialists love trains, so Republicans hate trains."

I mean, that's how it goes. That's the line of thought. That is the message for your average Democrat Party base voter and low-information voter. But let's review, shall we? Let's plug some reality into all this. The over $800 billion stimulus bill back in 2009 was an infrastructure bill (so we were told) to repair roads, bridges, schools, and all that. It turns out to be as big a lie as Obamacare. The stimulus bill wasn't about infrastructure any more than Obamacare is about affordable health insurance.

Both the stimulus bill and Obamacare are executive fraud, pure and simple. More money has been misdirected and misspent in Obamacare and the stimulus bill than we can comprehend. But the point is, you can never fully fund fraud. You can never satisfy con men. And fraud is what we have been subjected to all too often from our government. There's way too much, way too often, and you cannot fully fund it. Fraud is never, ever, totally paid for.


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AMTRAK derailment (of logic) by Jonah Goldberg and Rush Limbaugh (Original Post) underpants May 2015 OP
Since when did Fox News consider war profiteering ghoulish? Bjorn Against May 2015 #1
Ghoulish? drm604 May 2015 #2
Why is this nonsense being posted here? Depaysement May 2015 #3

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
1. Since when did Fox News consider war profiteering ghoulish?
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:42 PM
May 2015

I seem to remember them cheering on war profiteers and questioning the patriotism of anyone who calls for accountabilty for those who profit from war.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
2. Ghoulish?
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:37 PM
May 2015

That's just stupid. When a disaster occurs, you talk about ways to prevent similar things in the future. That's prudent, not ghoulish. After the recent plane crash, people talked about how to prevent something like it in the future. As far as I know, nobody called that ghoulish.

This is just a talking point, and an especially stupid one at that.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
3. Why is this nonsense being posted here?
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:43 PM
May 2015

The $800 billion stimulus bill did repair bridges, schools, etc. Thousands of them. $1.3 billion of it went to Amtrak. That was six years ago. Since then Republicans have cut everything in sight.

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