Sun May 17, 2015, 12:20 PM

MaggieD (7,393 posts)

Not since LBJ

... have "liberals" and so called Democrats worked so hard to bring down their party's front runner in a presidential campaign. Sure they did it to Gore too, but not with as much vehemence as they are directing at HRC (unless you count Ralph's vehemence).

The result was Nixon and Bush.

As far as I can tell those are the only two victories the far left has ever obtained. Helping to elect republican presidents.

Sure, they COULD boost their preferred candidate without tearing down the front runner. But that's not how they roll. Sad.

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304 replies	Author	Time	Post
Not since LBJ (Original post)	MaggieD	May 2015	OP
oh bullshit and hypocritical bullshit at that. At least I don't pretend to like HRC	cali	May 2015	#1
People can like both Sanders and Hillary	treestar	May 2015	#4
I like Sanders just fine	MaggieD	May 2015	#6
lol. a large body of your posts commenting on him, give lie to that claim	cali	May 2015	#12
So you don't share Bernie's values....	MaggieD	May 2015	#15
I have no problem criticizing any candidate- and that includes Bernie	cali	May 2015	#21
So you don't think Bernie can win either	MaggieD	May 2015	#23
aha! nope.	hopemountain	May 2015	#87
Sure I can	MaggieD	May 2015	#90
but there is no truth to it. nt.	hopemountain	May 2015	#95
Of course there is....	MaggieD	May 2015	#97
that's why he is running, correct?	hopemountain	May 2015	#99
Nah - he is running to impact	MaggieD	May 2015	#101
that is an illusion. nt	hopemountain	May 2015	#126
Your like a deaf single celled amoeba .	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#149
+ 1000 !!!	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#138
lol	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#46
History shows tearing down the front runner helps elect Republicans?	A Simple Game	May 2015	#63
I recall a lot of Clintonites at that time yelling that he was unelectable...	Chan790	May 2015	#217
What's funny is that I know of at least one poster that was	A Simple Game	May 2015	#245
I know several who said the most awful things about her and are	Autumn	May 2015	#296
Not "electable" by whom?	fredamae	May 2015	#77
As a Bernie supporter who knows that not only can Bernie win, he is already	sabrina 1	May 2015	#92
Dreamers gotta dream	MaggieD	May 2015	#96
yawn	sabrina 1	May 2015	#117
It a tough call	Cassidy1	May 2015	#224
Biden isn't even talking about Biden	frylock	May 2015	#300
No, he won't	Cassidy1	May 2015	#304
if Hillary is tough enough to beat the GOP	DonCoquixote	May 2015	#228
Pile of what, cali?	fadedrose	May 2015	#75
..."until Chappaquiddick"? Nice try, but that happened in 1969, and Carter didn't run for President	Tanuki	May 2015	#78
Chappaquiddick was in the mix in that election...	fadedrose	May 2015	#109
Wot? Why would Kennedy(?) "change his mind" about running against Carter(?) in '84?	truebluegreen	May 2015	#136
Carter ran in '80	fadedrose	May 2015	#166
Your timeline is off.	truebluegreen	May 2015	#185
Gerald Ford was in the House, not Senate, when he was tapped to replace Agnew as VP. (eom)	StevieM	May 2015	#191
Wow, nice post---not. Precisely the kind of thing Senator Sanders would NOT endorse.	MADem	May 2015	#162
I guess you're just better than me	fadedrose	May 2015	#172
My post was not directed at you.	MADem	May 2015	#174
I have to start wearing my damned glasses	fadedrose	May 2015	#190
No worries. I had no problem with anything you had to say in this thread.	MADem	May 2015	#195
Well, I'm sure noticing more posts on DU	MineralMan	May 2015	#2
Democrats as well as Republicans eat their own.	leftofcool	May 2015	#3
Not sure about Republicans	treestar	May 2015	#7
That's what	Jamaal510	May 2015	#299
I see it as a battle for the soul of the party:	truebluegreen	May 2015	#139
Interesting about the comments about the victories obtained	treestar	May 2015	#5
Maybe that's it	MaggieD	May 2015	#8
or it could be	hfojvt	May 2015	#50
Actually history doesn't bear that out	MaggieD	May 2015	#65
the country didn't do better with the Vietnam war	hfojvt	May 2015	#74
LBJ was undone by the war he inherited. LBJ was so much more than that fiasco...	Hekate	May 2015	#79
Hey, I like LBJ	hfojvt	May 2015	#93
LBJ was undone by the war he escalated	dflprincess	May 2015	#230
Did the country do better under Nixon?	MaggieD	May 2015	#86
well, way back in 1968 when Nixon took office	hfojvt	May 2015	#112
So you're pro Nixon	MaggieD	May 2015	#114
I see the point you are making but I think the important thing to remember is that Ronald Reagan	StevieM	May 2015	#202
I would say there is "very little difference"	hfojvt	May 2015	#241
How does Republicans winning really help?	treestar	May 2015	#211
who said it does?	hfojvt	May 2015	#240
So HHH as President would have been no different?	treestar	May 2015	#244
+1. :)	Chan790	May 2015	#218
Pardon me for a moment	Sherman A1	May 2015	#9
Sure, but that's not what they are doing	MaggieD	May 2015	#11
you mean like you've smeared Bernie by suggesting over and over again that	cali	May 2015	#14
I think he should change that (I) to a (D)	MaggieD	May 2015	#18
I'm referring to your insisting repeatedly that you're "concerned" that he might run	cali	May 2015	#22
I don't trust any politician	MaggieD	May 2015	#24
funny, you've had fits over people saying they don't trust HRC	cali	May 2015	#27
Meaningful how?	MaggieD	May 2015	#29
You are entitled to your opinion	Sherman A1	May 2015	#55
I've seen plenty of attempts to smear Bernie.	cui bono	May 2015	#173
Say something good about Clinton for a change; it might make you SEEM believable.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#10
I have said good things about all the candidates	MaggieD	May 2015	#13
You'll even, huh? Yeah.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#25
Yep - sure will	MaggieD	May 2015	#26
We "live in a two party system..." really?	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#30
They may as well be	MaggieD	May 2015	#32
How's that shovel workin'? Let me know if it wears out; I'll get a rope and lower you down another.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#34
Don't need a shovel	MaggieD	May 2015	#40
Hmmm more yammering	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#165
In other words....	MaggieD	May 2015	#264
Actually Maggie your post has so many historic mistakes	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#270
Still can't think of one?	MaggieD	May 2015	#273
I can think of plenty, but you are down right adorable	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#276
Well list them then....	MaggieD	May 2015	#278
More comedy with your "demands."	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#279
Can't think of any, huh?	MaggieD	May 2015	#280
You are adorable	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#281
Let me know if you think of any...	MaggieD	May 2015	#282
Even MORE DEMANDS	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#283
So you can't think of any?	MaggieD	May 2015	#286
What you are doing is shit stirring	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#287
STILL can't think of one?	MaggieD	May 2015	#288
You are adorable	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#289
Your deflections prove my point	MaggieD	May 2015	#290
Even more adorable and now with personal attacks	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#291
I guess you think that "adorable" schtick....	MaggieD	May 2015	#292
Other than plurality control with Working Families of the Hartford City Council?	Chan790	May 2015	#219
I like Sawant ....	MaggieD	May 2015	#266
I don't think I've said anything negative about Hillary. I just prefer Bernie.	Vinca	May 2015	#16
Then this post is not about you!	MaggieD	May 2015	#20
I don't think it's about many here.	Vinca	May 2015	#85
Yep. nt	cyberswede	May 2015	#284
Yup	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#285
LBJ Lied the USA into Vietnam	Octafish	May 2015	#17
He also brought you the "great society"	MaggieD	May 2015	#19
Actually, organized labor brought all reforms	leftstreet	May 2015	#187
I think LBJ deserves enormous credit for driving through all those reforms. (eom)	StevieM	May 2015	#192
LOL!	MaggieD	May 2015	#200
It amazes me how people forget all that we accomplished in the 60s when up against a whole lot of	StevieM	May 2015	#212
Hey Oc... I guess lying the country into a war that caused the deaths of over 58,000 Americans	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#28
We were already at war	MaggieD	May 2015	#31
You might want to look at a timeline including his Gulf of Tonkin lie and the escalation afterward.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#33
So you agree....	MaggieD	May 2015	#37
Nnnnnnnope. There was NEVER a declared war in Southeast Asia.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#42
So what?	MaggieD	May 2015	#45
Declared or not, we seem to be at war in lotsa places.	truebluegreen	May 2015	#144
LBJ was a sitting president; a sitting president is always the presumptive nominee.	Spider Jerusalem	May 2015	#35
So what?	MaggieD	May 2015	#36
Did those SAME stats make her president in 2008?	cascadiance	May 2015	#39
Bernie is not your new Obama	MaggieD	May 2015	#41
Yep! Bernie IS better. And therefore I think MORE Americans could gravitate to him!	cascadiance	May 2015	#52
Ah, Puretopia!	MaggieD	May 2015	#54
It is not historically correct to say that Hillary had the same lead in 2008 that she has today.	StevieM	May 2015	#194
That she had a large lead that people felt she was already the "nominee" then,	cascadiance	May 2015	#196
Obama was a pretty big star from the beginning and for better or worse there is no one in the same	StevieM	May 2015	#198
That's your opinion that he's a bigger "star" than Bernie...	cascadiance	May 2015	#199
I respect your feelings regarding Sen. Sanders. I like Sanders and Elizabeth Warren just fine.	StevieM	May 2015	#205
How old is Bernie?	Major Hogwash	May 2015	#242
Nobody has the right to expect the nomination on a platter, not even an incumbent president.	StevieM	May 2015	#197
Liberals support Hillary	Renew Deal	May 2015	#38
"...the far left..."	truebluegreen	May 2015	#147
2000 and 2004 Nader voters, Green Party voters in presidential races, people that look to Venezuala	Renew Deal	May 2015	#250
Define far left.	LeftOfWest	May 2015	#243
See above	Renew Deal	May 2015	#251
Please point us to all the OP's laying out why Hillary is the best representative for the people.	woo me with science	May 2015	#43
She's the best candidate so far...	MaggieD	May 2015	#49
I'm sure many were saying the same about her about this time before 2008 election...	cascadiance	May 2015	#57
Again, she would have been better....	MaggieD	May 2015	#58
If she wants to "gut punch" Republicans then DEMONSTRATE it now with McTurtle on the TPP!	cascadiance	May 2015	#69
Why?	MaggieD	May 2015	#80
Why? Because she's a fool if she thinks I and many others will support her...	cascadiance	May 2015	#83
She has said plenty about it	MaggieD	May 2015	#89
Why don't you provide us a link then that shows how Hillary says she's against passing Fast Track...	cascadiance	May 2015	#104
Its been posted before	MaggieD	May 2015	#113
Just as I thought, pressed for something to back up an assertion, you don't have it...	cascadiance	May 2015	#119
Well you could just inform yourself	MaggieD	May 2015	#122
I AM informing myself, which is why I ask YOU to show that you are informing yourself...	cascadiance	May 2015	#134
Actually you're not	MaggieD	May 2015	#135
You can say "Warren agrees with HRC"..	cascadiance	May 2015	#140
Google it	MaggieD	May 2015	#143
Sorry I'm not wasting my time doing YOUR job advocating YOUR position...	cascadiance	May 2015	#154
Glad you googled it	MaggieD	May 2015	#253
Thanks for proving my point...	cascadiance	May 2015	#254
Let me guess	MaggieD	May 2015	#255
NO, you did not qualify your statements properly that you were talking about ISDS, NOT TPP...	cascadiance	May 2015	#260
That's because you are wrong	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#227
About what? Please be specific	MaggieD	May 2015	#256
But can you for once back up a claim you make?	cui bono	May 2015	#235
What claim is that?	MaggieD	May 2015	#252
You have already disproven your own OP	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#262
How so?	MaggieD	May 2015	#263
By admitting that it was worse for Hillary in the 08 primaries	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#265
Huh?	MaggieD	May 2015	#267
Yeah, huh....	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#269
Digging what?	MaggieD	May 2015	#274
Links? Clinton helped craft the TPP. I find it hard to believe they are in agreement about it.	cui bono	May 2015	#233
She didn't write the TPP	MaggieD	May 2015	#257
I guess Obama would send her to talk to other countries as SOS and not know anything about it?	cascadiance	May 2015	#261
She can't say she doesn't support the TPP	Aerows	May 2015	#225
I would love to see your post if you would be so kind as to provide a link.	cui bono	May 2015	#236
Out of her own mouth in an interview!	Aerows	May 2015	#237
Thanks for that!	cui bono	May 2015	#238
Facts are out of style here	MaggieD	May 2015	#258
I posted an interview	Aerows	May 2015	#259
At least you are qualifying her being the best candidate so far. Bernie is the absolute best	cui bono	May 2015	#232
^THIS^ n/t	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#64
+ a billion	BrotherIvan	May 2015	#73
+1	leftstreet	May 2015	#215
Apparently you weren't around in 2007?	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#44
I was around....	MaggieD	May 2015	#47
That was a lame reply	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#60
It is a realistic reply	MaggieD	May 2015	#62
You contradicted your own OP	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#66
I was one of those who tried to bring down LBJ.	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2015	#48
Well thanks for Nixon then!	MaggieD	May 2015	#51
Thank LBJ and Humphrey for Nixon.	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2015	#53
You helped elect Nixon	MaggieD	May 2015	#56
No, I didn't. I voted against Nixon and the war.	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2015	#59
How did that work out?	MaggieD	May 2015	#61
Did you vote for Humphrey or Nixon? How did that work out?	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2015	#70
I was 9 so they wouldn't let me vote	MaggieD	May 2015	#81
How did we do that?	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2015	#82
Did you lose the thread?	MaggieD	May 2015	#84
So you were for the Vietnam war?	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#229
LOL	deutsey	May 2015	#268
And if he were more willing to help America know the truth about Nixon at that time...	cascadiance	May 2015	#100
LOL!	MaggieD	May 2015	#107
If you want to thank anybody for Nixon,	truebluegreen	May 2015	#150
LBJ knew Nixon committed treason by sabotaging the peace talks	Mnpaul	May 2015	#186
Sorry.	LWolf	May 2015	#67
" I'm sorry if you think that her record 'tears her down.' "	woo me with science	May 2015	#68
Yep. nt	LWolf	May 2015	#72
Oh god - not those right wing...	MaggieD	May 2015	#98
Associations with Wall St are RW talking points?	Mnpaul	May 2015	#184
Why are you an anti-democratic authoritarian? If Hillary can't stand the heat, she	KingCharlemagne	May 2015	#71
I'm sure HRC can handle it just fine	MaggieD	May 2015	#94
I get it... Let's just keep everything secret and say we should all vote for someone, just	cascadiance	May 2015	#108
So you don't agree with Bernie then?	MaggieD	May 2015	#111
I'm taking issue with what people are calling "attacking" her...	cascadiance	May 2015	#152
Oh come on. The exact same dynamic played itself out in 2008 and Obama went	KingCharlemagne	May 2015	#142
Bernie is no Obama	MaggieD	May 2015	#145
Hillary is the equivalent of Henry Kissinger. That's why she's	KingCharlemagne	May 2015	#146
I don't think liberals are working hard to bring down any DEM candidate	bigwillq	May 2015	#76
Nah - it's also the far left media too	MaggieD	May 2015	#91
I've heard reports of a far left media, but they are as mythical as	Agnosticsherbet	May 2015	#105
Well if you're not aware of....	MaggieD	May 2015	#110
Most of those are center to middle left at best.	Agnosticsherbet	May 2015	#181
She uses 'far left' to mean anyone to the left of Hillary. By that standard, Barbara Boxer is	KingCharlemagne	May 2015	#155
Yes, I recognized that by her list of sources.	Agnosticsherbet	May 2015	#183
Well by all means...	MaggieD	May 2015	#207
Sounds like a RW talking point	Mnpaul	May 2015	#188
well, if it walks like a duck....	frylock	May 2015	#302
the far left media?!	frylock	May 2015	#301
Message auto-removed	Name removed	May 2015	#88
You forgot Carter who was undone more by Kennedy and the lefts	Agnosticsherbet	May 2015	#102
Okay add in Carter	MaggieD	May 2015	#118
3 recommendations out of 980 views.	Enthusiast	May 2015	#103
This is where the far left hangs out	MaggieD	May 2015	#115
Most who agree with OP have left DU temporarily until Clinton hatred dissipates.	Hoyt	May 2015	#121
Actually i think most mainstream	MaggieD	May 2015	#124
Post removed	Post removed	May 2015	#127
Agreed	MaggieD	May 2015	#129
Gone to MSM .	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#130
Did you just arrive here from another planet? This isn't a contest	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#106
Based on what?	MaggieD	May 2015	#116
LBJ didn't seek reelection and Dem's beating up on Jimmy Carter	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#125
Right. Fuck those people who thought that the Vietnam war was a bad idea	eridani	May 2015	#120
Did helping elect Nixon	MaggieD	May 2015	#123
Sirhan Sirhan was the only one to help elect Nixon, RFK would have buried Dick .	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#128
Oops....	MaggieD	May 2015	#133
Yes the conversation of what's good for the world somtimes endicts	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#137
I think we discuss differences	MaggieD	May 2015	#141
He holds himself to higher standard and you and I aren't campaigning...	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#148
Had Humphrey come out moe strongly agains the war, he would have won	eridani	May 2015	#158
...	TBF	May 2015	#131
What a mess.	Phlem	May 2015	#132
Well I can't speak to the national picture but there are certainly some posters here that	hrmjustin	May 2015	#151
Challenging is seen as treason by people in your ' Group ' this is GD .	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#156
"Your group"?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#159
See ya	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#163
Can't handle a question?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#164
Depends on what you call an 'attack'.	cui bono	May 2015	#170
No, criticism is healthy.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#171
Then what's the point of having a democracy? *(post I'm replying to was edited well after my reply)	cui bono	May 2015	#175
This message was self-deleted by its author	hrmjustin	May 2015	#177
Yes. When I read your post it did not have a comma. You not mentioning that is dishonest.	cui bono	May 2015	#231
This message was self-deleted by its author	hrmjustin	May 2015	#247
Wow your right I was really wrong here. i just looked at it again and I was totally in the wrong.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#248
Thank you.	cui bono	May 2015	#275
Again my apologies.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#277
This is really great to see	marym625	May 2015	#294
Thank you.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#295
I see...	whatchamacallit	May 2015	#153
And the left is trying like hell to get President Cruz elected	workinclasszero	May 2015	#157
Has nothing to do with honesty, history or common sense does it, Do you	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#161
I don't believe there is any way that Ted Cruz could ever win the presidency.	StevieM	May 2015	#214
We heard the same thing going into the 08 election	AgingAmerican	May 2015	#226
THanks I really needed my scoop	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#160
Who was the front runner in 1968, RFK was assassinated	WestSideStory	May 2015	#167
We worked pretty hard in 2008 too. Spoiler alert.	AtomicKitten	May 2015	#168
So why don't you tell Hillary supporters to get behind Bernie?	cui bono	May 2015	#169
Y a w n again.	ananda	May 2015	#176
Wow, Johnson ran against Nixon?	Warpy	May 2015	#178
If you want more alternate history	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#179
Nader voters cost LBJ the election	frylock	May 2015	#303
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go	cantbeserious	May 2015	#180
That works for me just fine.	840high	May 2015	#182
Loyalty should be to principles	Sobax	May 2015	#189
It's called a primary. I suggest you get over it.	Scootaloo	May 2015	#193
So you don't agree with Bernie	MaggieD	May 2015	#201
I think just like Bernie, many of us have voiced concerns about ISSUES like the TPP here...	cascadiance	May 2015	#204
About what? bernie hasn't claimed that liberals are "tearing down" clinton	Scootaloo	May 2015	#210
I like all of our announced and presumed candidates.	DemocratSinceBirth	May 2015	#203
Boogah boogah boogah!	deutsey	May 2015	#206
You seem to get a heck of a lot of replies to your posts	Aerows	May 2015	#208
everything	G_j	May 2015	#209
some those tearing down Clinton are not from the Democratic party	liberal N proud	May 2015	#213
DU is not necessarily representative of most Democrats, and the polls seem to confirm that	still_one	May 2015	#216
A real pro-Hillary DU member . . .	Depaysement	May 2015	#220
"liberals"….???	MrMickeysMom	May 2015	#221
Give it up	MFrohike	May 2015	#222
Well she certainly is managing expectations.	JEB	May 2015	#223
Flame bait.	morningfog	May 2015	#234
why are authoritarians allowed to post personal attacks and disruptive flame bait with impunity?	Doctor_J	May 2015	#239
Gets worst than the fact that click bait is allowed here	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#271
The site owner has come out for Hillary. That's why. nt	Romulox	May 2015	#272
Hey Hey LBJ How Many Kids Did You Kill Today?	Warren Stupidity	May 2015	#246
Funny, I seem to recall this guy named Howard Dean......	beerandjesus	May 2015	#249
What a bunch of bullshit.	marym625	May 2015	#293
Sirhan Sirhan is how Nixon got elected	Nevernose	May 2015	#297
There aren't as many of them trying to take her down as you think.	NCTraveler	May 2015	#298

Response to MaggieD (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2015, 12:27 PM

cali (114,904 posts)

1. oh bullshit and hypocritical bullshit at that. At least I don't pretend to like HRC

the way you pretend to like Sanders, whilst posting ops and posts that trash him. And I have posted dozens of threads boosting Bernie. I can both post threads boosting my candidate and threads criticizing and questioning HRC.

And you're wrong. Again. I suggest you look at the Teddy Kennedy/Jimmy Carter situation of 1980.

You could post ops boosting HRC instead of whinging on about how awful liberals are and constantly berating DU. Oh, and isn't it just adorable of you to put liberals in quotes.

You not only get your history wrong, the bashing of the left is repugnant as well. Now where are your threads that boost HRC? So far, I've seen more threads from you complaining about liberals, misrepresenting issues like the tpp and bashing Bernie, than I have ops from you extolling HRC.

What a towering pile of....

Not since LBJ

1. oh bullshit and hypocritical bullshit at that. At least I don't pretend to like HRC

4. People can like both Sanders and Hillary

6. I like Sanders just fine

12. lol. a large body of your posts commenting on him, give lie to that claim

15. So you don't share Bernie's values....

21. I have no problem criticizing any candidate- and that includes Bernie

23. So you don't think Bernie can win either

87. aha! nope.

90. Sure I can

95. but there is no truth to it. nt.

97. Of course there is....

99. that's why he is running, correct?

101. Nah - he is running to impact

126. that is an illusion. nt

149. Your like a deaf single celled amoeba .

138. + 1000 !!!

46. lol

63. History shows tearing down the front runner helps elect Republicans?

217. I recall a lot of Clintonites at that time yelling that he was unelectable...

245. What's funny is that I know of at least one poster that was

296. I know several who said the most awful things about her and are

77. Not "electable" by whom?

92. As a Bernie supporter who knows that not only can Bernie win, he is already

96. Dreamers gotta dream

117. *yawn*

224. It a tough call

300. Biden isn't even talking about Biden

304. No, he won't

228. if Hillary is tough enough to beat the GOP

75. Pile of what, cali?

78. ..."until Chappaquiddick"? Nice try, but that happened in 1969, and Carter didn't run for President

109. Chappaquiddick was in the mix in that election...

136. Wot? Why would Kennedy(?) "change his mind" about running against Carter(?) in '84?

166. Carter ran in '80

185. Your timeline is off.

191. Gerald Ford was in the House, not Senate, when he was tapped to replace Agnew as VP. (eom)

162. Wow, nice post---not. Precisely the kind of thing Senator Sanders would NOT endorse.

172. I guess you're just better than me

174. My post was not directed at you.

190. I have to start wearing my damned glasses

195. No worries. I had no problem with anything you had to say in this thread.

2. Well, I'm sure noticing more posts on DU

3. Democrats as well as Republicans eat their own.

7. Not sure about Republicans

299. That's what

139. I see it as a battle for the soul of the party:

5. Interesting about the comments about the victories obtained

8. Maybe that's it

50. or it could be

65. Actually history doesn't bear that out

74. the country didn't do better with the Vietnam war

79. LBJ was undone by the war he inherited. LBJ was so much more than that fiasco...

93. Hey, I like LBJ

230. LBJ was undone by the war he escalated

86. Did the country do better under Nixon?

112. well, way back in 1968 when Nixon took office

114. So you're pro Nixon

202. I see the point you are making but I think the important thing to remember is that Ronald Reagan

241. I would say there is "very little difference"

211. How does Republicans winning really help?

240. who said it does?

244. So HHH as President would have been no different?

218. +1. :)

9. Pardon me for a moment

11. Sure, but that's not what they are doing

14. you mean like you've smeared Bernie by suggesting over and over again that

18. I think he should change that (I) to a (D)

22. I'm referring to your insisting repeatedly that you're "concerned" that he might run

24. I don't trust any politician

27. funny, you've had fits over people saying they don't trust HRC

29. Meaningful how?

55. You are entitled to your opinion

173. I've seen plenty of attempts to smear Bernie.

10. Say something good about Clinton for a change; it might make you SEEM believable.

13. I have said good things about all the candidates

25. You'll even, huh? Yeah.

26. Yep - sure will

30. We "live in a two party system..." really?

32. They may as well be

117. yawn