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RandySF

(58,710 posts)
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:42 PM May 2015

Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg offer a clue on marriage equality?

Over the weekend, less than a month after the Supreme Court heard arguments on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage bans, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided over the wedding of Shakespeare Theatre artistic director Michael Kahn and interior designer Charles Mitchem. According to New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, a guest at the wedding, Ginsburg delivered her portion, including saying she was officiating by the power vested in her by the United States Constitution, “with a sly look and special emphasis on the word ‘Constitution.’“

Dowd wrote that guests applauded, though “no one was sure if she was emphasizing her own beliefs or giving a hint to the outcome of the case the Supreme Court is considering whether to decide if same-sex marriage is constitutional.” A decision in that case, which will determine whether same-sex marriage is recognized throughout the country, is expected at the end of the term, usually late June.

No one seriously believes that Ginsburg, a liberal stalwart on the court, will be the swing vote in the decision in the case, Obergefell v. Hodges – that would be Justice Anthony Kennedy. The justices generally meet a few days after a case is argued for a closed door conference to take an initial vote tally and assign opinions, so under normal circumstances, Ginsburg would already know the case’s outcome. But more likely, the often-careful Ginsburg was emphasizing “constitution” at that moment to underscore her own vision of that document, which she has long held can expand to embrace people who were left out at the founding – including gays and lesbians.

This is the third time Ginsburg has been known to preside over a same-sex wedding; two of the weddings have involved prominent people in the performing arts, unsurprising given how many evenings Ginsburg spends at the theater.



http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/did-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offer-clue-marriage-equality

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Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg offer a clue on marriage equality? (Original Post) RandySF May 2015 OP
A rare day where we can look at our SC and be proud, if this goes correctly. randys1 May 2015 #1
That may well be a hint Gothmog May 2015 #2
Justice Ginsburg is far too sharp hifiguy May 2015 #3
You think we'll get Roberts, too? wryter2000 May 2015 #4
Yep. He's a Chief. hifiguy May 2015 #6
I also think it will be 6-3 Renew Deal May 2015 #8
Maybe Scalia's hysterical whining has turned the other justices toward equality. randome May 2015 #5
What are our odds on having Scalia keel over and croak from apoplexy when it goes against him? Arugula Latte May 2015 #7
That would be the maraschino cherry hifiguy May 2015 #9
My former boss was one of the grooms. ehrnst May 2015 #10
in a world of self-glorifying hammer-swingers, Volaris May 2015 #11
Please Deity, let it be 6 to 3! Hekate May 2015 #12

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. A rare day where we can look at our SC and be proud, if this goes correctly.
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:53 PM
May 2015

What a day of celebration this will be.

And it MUST be celebrated in very big ways, somehow.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. Justice Ginsburg is far too sharp
Mon May 18, 2015, 07:12 PM
May 2015

for that to have been an accidental slip.

Still predicting 6-3 with Soapy Sam, Fat Tony and Uncle Ruckus in apoplectic dissent. Kennedy has been rather good on LGBT rights so why should he change course now?

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
4. You think we'll get Roberts, too?
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:35 PM
May 2015

I wonder if this could be the decision that makes that hideous caricature of a human being, Scalia, to finally burst a blood vessel.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Yep. He's a Chief.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

Chiefs worry about their historical legacies. Roberts won't want to be seen as being on the wrong side of a historical inevitability.

He asked at argument whether the issue could be settled under established sex-discrimination law and the equality proponents' answer was "yes." And RBG literally made most of that law herself as an advocate before the SCOTUS so he ask her what's what. She knows.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. Maybe Scalia's hysterical whining has turned the other justices toward equality.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:38 PM
May 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
7. What are our odds on having Scalia keel over and croak from apoplexy when it goes against him?
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:04 PM
May 2015

*fingers crossed*

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. My former boss was one of the grooms.
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:09 PM
May 2015

RBG has participated in fundraisers for the Shakespeare Theatre for years, playing the prosecutor in a trial of Hamlet. She's good people.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
11. in a world of self-glorifying hammer-swingers,
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:17 PM
May 2015

it's nice to know there are elders among us who remember how to wield The Sharp and Quiet Knives.

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