Mon May 18, 2015, 04:05 PM

Tired of Malignant Amnesia Anti-Obama Syndrome

Just months after two massive policy achievements - reopening relations with Cuba after half a century, and bringing the US and Iran close to nuclear agreement that may be the basis for long-term peace - I see (once again, as if the madness ever stopped) his entire Presidency being dismissed as a massive conspiracy intended for the delivery of a single initiative that's disagreed with.

One disagreement is all it takes to make certain people forget (or more likely deliberately ignore) every single fact of this Presidency and retreat into a hysterical anti-Obama rage fugue.

When this hatred - that's been there since Day One - isn't being fed, its key disciples sit there in bitter, simmering fury, apparently more angry when they have no excuse than when they do. But when an excuse does present itself, they spring into action with all their Tea Party-flavored talking points and unconcealed personal hate on display, and for some reason it's tolerated if the single-issue point of disagreement is significant. That is the "Trojan Horse".

This crap is why we can't have nice things on the left. If we ever see Bernie Sanders in the White House - if we can hold back the chaotic impulses of certain people long enough to even get him there - he will be accused of "betraying" us within seconds of taking the Oath of Office. The moment he stepped into the spotlight, you could already almost hear the nervous tension in certain people's commentary, desperately trying to restrain themselves from blowing up the 1 or 2 things they disagree with him about into a full-blown accusation of Manchurian Candidacy.

If you disagree with the President on trade, then disagree with the President on trade while acknowledging you're on the same team. That's how adults shape political agendas. If after all this time you still think Barack Obama's credentials as a great liberal President are in doubt, and your response to every disagreement is to call them into question, you are the problem. You have a selective memory that makes you at very least a burden to your own alleged agenda.

Does anyone remember when Barack Obama was supposedly going to destroy Social Security? See, I remember that Big Lie and all the others these people have told. I see them lie, I see them extrapolate that lie into an attack on Barack Obama's character and motives, and then I see that lie come to exactly fucking NOTHING. Every time, always. Then they forget it ever happened, and we forget how berserk they went over nothing, treating every fresh lie as if it were the first.

But they're not even the real issue, because from where I stand they're transparent. The issue is that we listen to them whenever there is disagreement with the President, or even the vague perception that a disagreement may exist. We give air to voices of malignant amnesia, treating Two Minute Hates as if they were courageously stated moral grievances.

It's like watching the parable of The Scorpion and The Frog in action. Stop falling for this bullshit, and stop letting hateful, dishonest people define progressivism for you. We are the voice of reason in the world, and the minute that turns into something else, we don't amount to much.

Issues come and go, but the strength of everything we stand for is our solidarity with each other and with the truth. Those who attack that need to be treated with strong skepticism, even as we constructively address issue differences.

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Tired of Malignant Amnesia Anti-Obama Syndrome (Original post)	True Blue Door	May 2015	OP
Just ignore the fringe left....	MaggieD	May 2015	#1
the fringe on the right is used to enable and intimidate their	certainot	May 2015	#24
I'm skeptical these people even are on the left.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#47
They do -it's true	MaggieD	May 2015	#50
Sounds like you're on a purity quest.	morningfog	May 2015	#72
Nope	MaggieD	May 2015	#77
that's exactly what it is	Skittles	May 2015	#90
It's fine when people who aren't Democrats honorably contribute here.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#101
+100000000000	MaggieD	May 2015	#186
There it is. Not sure why Skinner and the other mods allow it. Never seen anything like it. NEVER!	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#287
OR	Skittles	May 2015	#88
"Pimp"...more loaded, personally demonizing language about people you disagree with.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#102
people on the left are "Alex Jones-style paranoid Libertarian types" & "anti-Obama hate cultism"	progressoid	May 2015	#160
+1	Sobax	May 2015	#182
I said nothing of the sort about "people on the left."	True Blue Door	May 2015	#195
Heheh I notice a commonality of style	treestar	May 2015	#166
A demonstration that some people just don't work well with others.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#196
Dems can't win without "the fringe left."	morningfog	May 2015	#70
They will smile and nod	MaggieD	May 2015	#74
What truth did Rahm tell?	morningfog	May 2015	#103
When he called the fringe "fucking stupid"	MaggieD	May 2015	#192
Rahm did not call the fringe fucking stupid.	morningfog	May 2015	#199
Really? You need to pay more attention	MaggieD	May 2015	#213
He did not call the frunge fucking stupid. He called liberals fucking retards.	morningfog	May 2015	#214
I think many of us are because we are too emotional and illogical. Many of us don't do nuance.	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#278
+1.	YoungDemCA	May 2015	#318
it's obvious to anyone that she thinks the left is fucking retarded	frylock	May 2015	#327
let's not sugarcoat it. he called the left's ideas "fucking RETARDED"	frylock	May 2015	#326
That was a different time	MaggieD	May 2015	#336
Yep.	joshcryer	May 2015	#95
Not at all.	morningfog	May 2015	#104
The left assuredly voted in both elections.	joshcryer	May 2015	#172
The left should get themselves out...	Agschmid	May 2015	#180
The evidence says you're wrong. Corpo-Dems got creamed while minimum wage laws soared.	Scuba	May 2015	#163
Feingold and Grayson were corpo-dems?	joshcryer	May 2015	#171
Everyone other than the person throwing around "corpo-dem" accusations is a corpo-dem.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#202
Good one!	treestar	May 2015	#178
Yes they can. There's a lot more in the middle than on the left fringe in the real world.	Lil Missy	May 2015	#142
We're talking about the party and issue actives.	morningfog	May 2015	#146
True. And the fringe left can't win without the moderate left.	pnwmom	May 2015	#162
Of course they can	treestar	May 2015	#167
I don't think you are correct.	morningfog	May 2015	#173
I have been trying to tell radical leftists for years that they only marginalize themselves	Cary	May 2015	#189
Same here....	MaggieD	May 2015	#190
Maybe. But on the other hand they insist on getting mean and nasty about it	Cary	May 2015	#193
They are ignored in real life	MaggieD	May 2015	#194
If the left of the left actually had the influence they believe they have...	Spazito	May 2015	#197
K & R. PS. Hope you have your flame-resistant undies on. n/t	FSogol	May 2015	#2
I don't think it is flame sit. It is just calling attention to the fact when's person does	still_one	May 2015	#10
Sometimes it is hard to keep score.	gordianot	May 2015	#3
I doubt this will keep Obama off Rushmore, figuratively speaking.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#53
I have been a strong supporter to now.	gordianot	May 2015	#113
Have you read Krugman's views about it?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#114
Yes and I have read many views.	gordianot	May 2015	#116
What treatment? What do you mean?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#117
You would have to see his wording.	gordianot	May 2015	#127
Noting that she has her own interests is not insulting, it's a rational observation.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#141
That was not necessary and given a person who avoids drama unnecessary.	gordianot	May 2015	#150
Those are valid points for arguing against TPP, but TPP isn't the subject of this.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#200
Again, this is what's stupid about the liberal mindset. One issue erases an entire record of amazing	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#279
The reason Democrats lose election they do not confront Republicans.	gordianot	May 2015	#297
One major point I agree with: Democrats ran away from their president's successful record...	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#298
I have been critical from time to time but by far complimentary.	gordianot	May 2015	#311
I actually agree with you, but again, my points are not directed at people like you and I who are	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#329
Well said!	Spazito	May 2015	#4
Never ending condemnation. Can't live wituout it. It's become pointless. n/t	freshwest	May 2015	#22
Yes, it moves no one, achieves nothing...	Spazito	May 2015	#23
It's Orwellian, the way they treat demonizing Obama as an end in itself.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#55
Excellent, succinct OP with it all in one piece. Thanks for writing it and the reply.	freshwest	May 2015	#108
Single initiative?	Doctor_J	May 2015	#5
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000	Phlem	May 2015	#26
And that's the truth, I voted for him twice, but not a third time even	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#35
+1	Enthusiast	May 2015	#41
Yep you too can be one with the BOG.	zeemike	May 2015	#48
...	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#115
What the hell is "BOG"? Did Infowars get tired of their conspiracy theories about "ZOG"	True Blue Door	May 2015	#204
No it is like the BORG with a missing letter.	zeemike	May 2015	#218
Let me guess how that happened.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#225
No my reference was a play on a Star Trek episode	zeemike	May 2015	#241
That laundry list of grievances is utterly delusional, if not outright lying.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#56
we had a decent bill from the house	questionseverything	May 2015	#312
What bill did Congress put on the President's disk?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#314
the shitty one	questionseverything	May 2015	#319
Not "self-imposed" by the President.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#320
geesh you are really inflexible	questionseverything	May 2015	#323
You keep trying to dodge the facts.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#324
i think i was pretty clear	questionseverything	May 2015	#328
No, he couldn't. He's the President, not the Senate Majority Leader.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#330
stop with the insults..it is not necessary	questionseverything	May 2015	#332
And he whipped votes for Obamacare.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#333
so he asked for votes for the shitty bill	questionseverything	May 2015	#334
....	questionseverything	May 2015	#335
Bravo	sheshe2	May 2015	#147
Thread winner!	Scuba	May 2015	#164
It took a lot of effort to interpret everything as darkly as possible	treestar	May 2015	#179
not nearly as much as it does to believe that Obama is a liberal	Doctor_J	May 2015	#184
You just said you'd rather go back to the status quo health system	True Blue Door	May 2015	#201
+1	snappyturtle	May 2015	#183
+1	Sobax	May 2015	#185
So you actually never say anything, just +1 everything?	giftedgirl77	May 2015	#283
Oh, he says plenty	Bobbie Jo	May 2015	#295
I knew there was something by another one of his +1	giftedgirl77	May 2015	#296
add not prosecuting war criminals and the illegal nsa activity to your list pls	questionseverything	May 2015	#308
yeah, I just riffed off the top of my head. thanks	Doctor_J	May 2015	#309
This is so well written, thank you for posting this.	randys1	May 2015	#6
No	tennstar	May 2015	#49
Sanders would do SOMETHING that you disagree with.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#58
that is not grounded in reality.	drray23	May 2015	#177
You will not agree with Bernie or Liz Warren on ALL issues. And both have voted with Obama's	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#280
K & R nt	okaawhatever	May 2015	#7
I seen it as it was shortly after the first Inauguration	madokie	May 2015	#8
I don't know about the rest of the country, but it started here during the first campaign...	Hekate	May 2015	#40
I disagree with you wholeheartedly. The hatred started in 2007 when I saw many white Democrats...	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#288
Yes, sadly. There's a lot of crypto-racist psychology in some people's attitudes toward Obama.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#59
about the same time that du started exhibiting posts in favor of republican policies	Doctor_J	May 2015	#105
The War in Afghanistan was not controversial even then.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#206
America wasn't attacked by Afghanistan	Fumesucker	May 2015	#276
We were attacked by elements occupying Afghanistan	True Blue Door	May 2015	#301
Yes! Yes! Yes! PREACH!! This president wasn't afforded a honeymoon. He couldn't even vacation with	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#281
Exactly	madokie	May 2015	#286
As a supporter of President Obama	tiredtoo	May 2015	#9
Naturally, disagreement is healthy.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#60
Hardly just a single issue- and yes, the administration did want to	cali	May 2015	#11
people such as yourself are not the phenomenon being described. nt	geek tragedy	May 2015	#31
Exactly!	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#282
Wow, you're actually sticking to a lie that was discredited years ago?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#63
Supporter too..	fadedrose	May 2015	#12
Bookmarked.	Dem2	May 2015	#13
I remember the cat food cultists...	Scurrilous	May 2015	#14
It's the pseudo-left version of "He's gonna take our guns!"	True Blue Door	May 2015	#64
what used to be average Dems are now considered the "far left"	Skittles	May 2015	#15
It must be very convenient always blaming someone else for everything.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#66
OMG, LOL	Skittles	May 2015	#81
How convenient for you.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#100
This message was self-deleted by its author	olddots	May 2015	#275
Blaming Nader?	Mnpaul	May 2015	#261
We each need to take responsibility.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#303
gore lost in 2000 because	questionseverything	May 2015	#315
Absolutely. We are all responsible for everything that happens, one way or another.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#317
actually the only thing we know about turn out is what the spreadsheets tell us	questionseverything	May 2015	#321
I have seem plenty on DU even attempt to turn winning events into shit	Sheepshank	May 2015	#16
Attacking Obama is the objective. Issues are just the means or the obstacles.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#67
But here's the problem, True Blue: Each and every time the president does something great...	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#285
I agree. Some part of the ODS phenomenon is either knowing or unconscious racism.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#300
+1000000000 nt	steve2470	May 2015	#325
+1	lovemydog	May 2015	#337
Yep	Andy823	May 2015	#143
Very well said	Progressive dog	May 2015	#17
I agree	bhikkhu	May 2015	#18
Well said!	mcar	May 2015	#19
I lived during six Democratic administrations	upaloopa	May 2015	#20
but, but, but, Hillary!	Phlem	May 2015	#30
Hillary is not in elected office	upaloopa	May 2015	#43
What part of "The Trojan Horse Presidency" is a legitimate issue complaint?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#69
Democracy is about complaining what others are doing isn't good enough?	treestar	May 2015	#181
Wow, thanks for this. Yes, we can do better. n/t	freshwest	May 2015	#21
Well, um, Obama did offer and try to cut Social Security . .	FairWinds	May 2015	#25
do you really think if Obama WANTED to cut Social Security he and the Republicans wouldn't have	geek tragedy	May 2015	#33
No, not really since Bush's privatization scam failed and he had a majority.	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#52
You are misinformed on Obama's stance on austerity.	geek tragedy	May 2015	#97
Who did he pick to head up his Budget Commission?	Mnpaul	May 2015	#258
That foolish tactic is on him then according to your rationalization as it was worthless to	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#293
It's quite simple: if the president really wanted austerity and social security cuts, they would	geek tragedy	May 2015	#294
No, it's not Presidents have wanted all kinds of shit and failed to get it.	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#339
Obama wanted a grand bargain where he was too willing	geek tragedy	May 2015	#341
I was there through the whole chain of events. You may want a more charitable interpretation of even	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#343
I am not calling you a liar, disagreeing with your interpretation of events	geek tragedy	May 2015	#344
I can respect that but the OP is calling liars and that sentiment is being endorsed without	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#345
Republicans wanted austerity, and they wanted it badly.	geek tragedy	May 2015	#346
Notice how the poster praised the Republicans and gave them credit for stopping the big, bad Obama!	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#289
So not only are you blaming Obama for something that never happened	True Blue Door	May 2015	#73
Willfully and woefully ignorant.	truebluegreen	May 2015	#80
more and more common around here	Skittles	May 2015	#89
It's a statement of facts.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#99
"Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP"	bvar22	May 2015	#224
And once again, what came of it?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#226
crickets	Bobbie Jo	May 2015	#235
Yup. Obama is simultaneously omnipotent and impotent to the Anti-Everything Brigade.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#236
It's a rationalization to accept something they normally wouldn't under a	neverforget	May 2015	#144
I agree. A defense mechanism. nt	truebluegreen	May 2015	#153
As funny as claiming he admits to being an actual Republican!	bettyellen	May 2015	#302
Some of us are sick of malignant Pro-Obama Syndrome,	Maedhros	May 2015	#27
We did not bomb Libya back to the stone age. Good lord.	geek tragedy	May 2015	#34
Your "criticisms" are wildly counterfactual and hysterically stated.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#75
Yeah, you show it with your "ugly malignant ODS". Too effin' bad we support President Obama.	Cha	May 2015	#256
I guess the author of the piece	Unknown Beatle	May 2015	#28
The "Grand Bargain" that never happened?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#76
It wasn't alleged, it actually happened.	Unknown Beatle	May 2015	#94
And then it didn't happen. Interesting how that works.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#107
The point is not that it didn't happen,	Unknown Beatle	May 2015	#119
"The table" is not some magical thing.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#125
It’s one thing for a Democratic president to embrace painful cuts	Unknown Beatle	May 2015	#154
Reality is what happens, not what someone imaged might have happened.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#209
"When events prove you're wrong, just admit you're wrong.	Unknown Beatle	May 2015	#98
Certain people can start by admitting they've never been right about this President once.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#109
clickbait left-trolls have learned from their rightwing counterparts as to which kinds of anti-Obama	geek tragedy	May 2015	#29
Absolutely! nt	betsuni	May 2015	#36
I'm not sure there was ever a distinction between the two.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#78
!	Phlem	May 2015	#32
then he should stop shilling for a terrible TPP	MisterP	May 2015	#37
"Shilling"? That is such loaded, personal-demonizing horseshit.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#79
Despite your overloaded hyperbole, it's still shilling for TPP.	Katashi_itto	May 2015	#152
It's advocating for TPP. An opinion is not corrupt just because you don't share it.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#210
The irony of your statement is rich	Katashi_itto	May 2015	#231
There is no irony in it. It's straightforward truth.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#232
LOL...Coming from you that's priceless.	Katashi_itto	May 2015	#238
The truth is always priceless.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#239
Lol...cognitive dissonance anyone?	Katashi_itto	May 2015	#240
How many times do you plan to repeat "I know you are, but what am I"?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#242
Again Projecting much?	Katashi_itto	May 2015	#243
And again you say "I know you are, but what am I?"	True Blue Door	May 2015	#247
See 243	Katashi_itto	May 2015	#251
Yes! Tired of yet another version of "The Boy Who Cried Trojan Horse" -- stupid and boring. nt	betsuni	May 2015	#38
To some people, winning elections is proof that someone is corrupt.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#82
You have been brilliant throughout this entire thread, beginning with your amazing, insightful OP!	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#290
Very well said. nt	Duval	May 2015	#39
KnR	Hekate	May 2015	#42
How is it a lie when chained CPI was his own proposal? We're we lying when we said Bush was trying	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#44
+1000000000	CharlotteVale	May 2015	#62
Because all evidence points to it having been a mere negotiating tactic.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#85
You have the theory and are trying to supercede the documented facts in favor of it.	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#91
That is quite the verbal diarrhea.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#106
Bush was really protecting Social Security then and wanted to prevent privatization, huh?	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#292
What Bush proposed and Obama "put on the table" are not the same thing.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#299
I didn't ever say it was the same proposal. Never not once. If you are so prescient you wouldn't	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#340
Really?	polly7	May 2015	#45
You don't consider progressives the voice of reason in the world?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#86
Apologies ..... I read too quickly (my bad habit). nt.	polly7	May 2015	#87
Attraction requires withdrawal to reflect	seveneyes	May 2015	#46
I lulz'd	KG	May 2015	#51
Oh, I do treat it with strong skepticism.	lovemydog	May 2015	#54
Thanks, this is a good and thoughtful post.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#92
I agree with them on the issues	treestar	May 2015	#168
Yup. So true.	lovemydog	May 2015	#169
Remember what we said about all the George W. Bush followers who	democrank	May 2015	#57
and they don't EVEN see the parallels	Skittles	May 2015	#83
It's different when a Democrat does it	Mnpaul	May 2015	#260
see it's not just "a Democrat"	Skittles	May 2015	#266
Cult of Personality	Mnpaul	May 2015	#267
We both know the difference between criticism and psychotic conspiracy theories.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#212
Well put.	JohnnyRingo	May 2015	#61
This movement toward ideological purity on DU	redstateblues	May 2015	#96
They have no choice.	JohnnyRingo	May 2015	#284
I don't know what the end game or strategy here	JonLP24	May 2015	#65
no, just exaggerating and enamored Obots	stupidicus	May 2015	#68
it goes right over their heads	Skittles	May 2015	#84
You're so right. Obama, Bush, Cruz, Clinton, Santorum	redstateblues	May 2015	#110
that's an example right there that it went over your head	Skittles	May 2015	#158
No, mainstream Democrats understand the hysterics	geek tragedy	May 2015	#262
...	DemocratSinceBirth	May 2015	#71
"The fable is used to illustrate...that no change can be made in the behaviour of the fundamentally	Number23	May 2015	#93
Well put.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#112
+1	lovemydog	May 2015	#122
"..that no change can be made in the behaviour of the fundamentally vicious." yes, well said from T!	Cha	May 2015	#126
+1 n/t	JTFrog	May 2015	#188
Well said, so true n/t	Spazito	May 2015	#207
Hey Spaz!	Number23	May 2015	#248
Hey Number23!	Spazito	May 2015	#250
Oh God, I missed the Jeff Sessions post. Thank the Lord	Number23	May 2015	#252
I have been noticing the deafening silence, virtually speaking whenever...	Spazito	May 2015	#253
Signed on just to give you my positive endorsement!	Old and In the Way	May 2015	#111
Issues like torture...	Bonobo	May 2015	#118
What does that story have to do with this subject?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#121
My opinion...	Bonobo	May 2015	#129
I agree that there should have been investigations.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#139
Yes, you're spot on. nt	Bonobo	May 2015	#145
me thinks you are exaggerating	G_j	May 2015	#120
ODS.. at it's most malignant.. "Trojan Horse".. 200 whatevers think that's alright just like	Cha	May 2015	#123
Hell yeah. Barack Obama is the most progressive President in generations.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#130
I love it that he's standing up to those who are so ugly and disrespectful to him.. little CT	Cha	May 2015	#157
Yes!	sheshe2	May 2015	#133
I love you guys.. we have a beautiful minority!	Cha	May 2015	#137
You~	sheshe2	May 2015	#138
Blah blah blah	Marrah_G	May 2015	#124
Didn't read it, did you?	True Blue Door	May 2015	#131
It doesn't say anything new	Marrah_G	May 2015	#135
So...you didn't read it.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#215
Yep, nicely captured. Flares up with a vengeance every time there's a new Benghazi	ucrdem	May 2015	#128
and we haven't even started on Obama's . .	FairWinds	May 2015	#132
Yeah I remember when Obama started those for profit universities	redstateblues	May 2015	#148
Deflection alert . .	FairWinds	May 2015	#155
No, it's called rebuttal of the bullshit the	geek tragedy	May 2015	#264
Thank you, because I just can't. Are we living in an Orwellian universe? Obama is the one who went	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#291
His infamy goes way further back than that. He started capitalism in the 1700s.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#216
Obama has done more to take on the for-profit	geek tragedy	May 2015	#263
Interesting rant	AuntPatsy	May 2015	#134
The perpetually outraged will always find something to whine about...	SidDithers	May 2015	#136
A new spin, but...	Andy823	May 2015	#191
The Left is too often a circular firing squad.	MicaelS	May 2015	#140
misstep or failure to lockstep?	Skittles	May 2015	#159
"failure to lockstep" definitely. n/t	MicaelS	May 2015	#175
I was booted from the BOG for saying we Democrats do not lockstep	Skittles	May 2015	#237
You, of all people????	MicaelS	May 2015	#244
now I consider it an honor	Skittles	May 2015	#245
Neither did I. I did not like any of the "teen rags". n/t	MicaelS	May 2015	#246
Thank you, True Blue Door.	sheshe2	May 2015	#149
I see a few issues and a few different groups with different agendas.	Sen. Walter Sobchak	May 2015	#151
Thanks, this is an interesting discussion of trade issues.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#217
DU rec for pissing off all the right people...nt	SidDithers	May 2015	#156
Yes, even if Bernie is elected he will ibe accused of betraying us,	pnwmom	May 2015	#161
At least someone gets it.	DFW	May 2015	#174
Some of it is puritanism, but a lot of it is just ordinary paranoid psychosis.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#219
well then, let's give it a try	Doctor_J	May 2015	#187
K&R. I don't think anyone is DU understands the trade agreement	treestar	May 2015	#165
That's understandable	Sobax	May 2015	#203
It's been said they always do it this way	treestar	May 2015	#211
That Obama favors the Chained CPI is not a lie nor a secret	eridani	May 2015	#170
No, that he "put it on the table" (oh, that magical table!) is not a secret or a lie.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#220
And when did he DEMAND it? I dont recall that. Hey, it was a huge error on his part	NoJusticeNoPeace	May 2015	#227
Yes, good point.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#228
Democrats don't put Social Security cuts on ANY table, period n/t	eridani	May 2015	#255
This explains it well, TBD..	Cha	May 2015	#259
"Chained CPI Was Never Going to Happen, And Now It's Still Never Going to Happen"	Cha	May 2015	#257
Anything put on the table could happen. I don't appreciate being a pawn sacrifice--	eridani	May 2015	#273
Yeah, you just hang on to that bitter, sour fallacious grape.	Cha	May 2015	#274
Selling Out The 99% To Appease Corporations, Oligarchs And Banks Overrides A Thousand Good Deeds	cantbeserious	May 2015	#176
Insane slogan with no connection to reality.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#221
Sometimes Truth And Reality Outweigh Dogma And Fiction	cantbeserious	May 2015	#230
That's why I posted this.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#233
tl;dr	Capt. Obvious	May 2015	#198
The President's 2008 election was historic; apparently that's enough for some people. nt	MadDAsHell	May 2015	#205
His entire Presidency has been historic.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#222
I see almost noone on DU that flat out rejects the contributions that this President has made...	MadDAsHell	May 2015	#229
Yes, but we both know the difference between that legitimate function	True Blue Door	May 2015	#234
You are contradicting yourself.	geek tragedy	May 2015	#265
If I never said it, it can't be contradictory.	MadDAsHell	May 2015	#269
Who is "adoring a guy for his skin hue?" That's a rather irresponsible accusation	geek tragedy	May 2015	#270
Haven't read other responses - will do so later	JustAnotherGen	May 2015	#208
One thing is for certain: Whatever happens, the people who demonize Obama	True Blue Door	May 2015	#223
Damn skippy. nt	MrScorpio	May 2015	#249
AWESOME post!	jazzimov	May 2015	#254
Boink.	Scurrilous	May 2015	#268
It doesn't matter who the President is.	mia	May 2015	#271
I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.	Rex	May 2015	#272
I think many of them are truly racist. They continue to move the goal post. No matter what this man	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2015	#277
Hear hear. Moving goal posts, imaginary goal posts, mutually exclusive demands...etc.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#305
Barack Obama put Social Security on the agenda by talking about a "chained CPI"	guillaumeb	May 2015	#304
Moving goalposts, rewritten history, inverse logic, impossible standards, scapegoating.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#307
I wrote about certain positions that the President has actually taken.	guillaumeb	May 2015	#310
We're clearly not going to resolve this in a short conversation.	True Blue Door	May 2015	#313
Let us agree to disagree	guillaumeb	May 2015	#316
internet frenzie/media has got really good at 'playing the masses'. It seems worse when people	Sunlei	May 2015	#306
it's not all or nothing. We can applaud what we agree with, criticize what we don't, and try to	yurbud	May 2015	#322
nearing 5000 views and only 88 recs	Skittles	May 2015	#331
that's a good perspective. The corporatists can make their numbers seem bigger here than they	yurbud	May 2015	#342
Sorry, it's Obama's fault	daredtowork	May 2015	#338

Response to True Blue Door (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2015, 04:10 PM

MaggieD (7,393 posts)

1. Just ignore the fringe left....

That's what the politicians do. Can't say I blame them. I wish pols on the right would do the same with their fringe. World would be a better place.

Tired of Malignant Amnesia Anti-Obama Syndrome

1. Just ignore the fringe left....

24. the fringe on the right is used to enable and intimidate their

47. I'm skeptical these people even are on the left.

50. They do -it's true

72. Sounds like you're on a purity quest.

77. Nope

90. that's exactly what it is

101. It's fine when people who aren't Democrats honorably contribute here.

186. +100000000000

287. There it is. Not sure why Skinner and the other mods allow it. Never seen anything like it. NEVER!

88. OR

102. "Pimp"...more loaded, personally demonizing language about people you disagree with.

160. people on the left are "Alex Jones-style paranoid Libertarian types" & "anti-Obama hate cultism"

182. +1

195. I said nothing of the sort about "people on the left."

166. Heheh I notice a commonality of style

196. A demonstration that some people just don't work well with others.

70. Dems can't win without "the fringe left."

74. They will smile and nod

103. What truth did Rahm tell?

192. When he called the fringe "fucking stupid"

199. Rahm did not call the fringe fucking stupid.

213. Really? You need to pay more attention

214. He did not call the frunge fucking stupid. He called liberals fucking retards.

278. I think many of us are because we are too emotional and illogical. Many of us don't do nuance.

318. +1.

327. it's obvious to anyone that she thinks the left is fucking retarded

326. let's not sugarcoat it. he called the left's ideas "fucking RETARDED"

336. That was a different time

95. Yep.

104. Not at all.

172. The left assuredly voted in both elections.

180. The left should get themselves out...

163. The evidence says you're wrong. Corpo-Dems got creamed while minimum wage laws soared.

171. Feingold and Grayson were corpo-dems?

202. Everyone other than the person throwing around "corpo-dem" accusations is a corpo-dem.

178. Good one!

142. Yes they can. There's a lot more in the middle than on the left fringe in the real world.

146. We're talking about the party and issue actives.

162. True. And the fringe left can't win without the moderate left.

167. Of course they can

173. I don't think you are correct.

189. I have been trying to tell radical leftists for years that they only marginalize themselves

190. Same here....

193. Maybe. But on the other hand they insist on getting mean and nasty about it

194. They are ignored in real life

197. If the left of the left actually had the influence they believe they have...

2. K & R. PS. Hope you have your flame-resistant undies on. n/t

10. I don't think it is flame sit. It is just calling attention to the fact when's person does

3. Sometimes it is hard to keep score.

53. I doubt this will keep Obama off Rushmore, figuratively speaking.

113. I have been a strong supporter to now.

114. Have you read Krugman's views about it?

116. Yes and I have read many views.

117. What treatment? What do you mean?

127. You would have to see his wording.

141. Noting that she has her own interests is not insulting, it's a rational observation.

150. That was not necessary and given a person who avoids drama unnecessary.

200. Those are valid points for arguing against TPP, but TPP isn't the subject of this.

279. Again, this is what's stupid about the liberal mindset. One issue erases an entire record of amazing

297. The reason Democrats lose election they do not confront Republicans.

298. One major point I agree with: Democrats ran away from their president's successful record...

311. I have been critical from time to time but by far complimentary.

329. I actually agree with you, but again, my points are not directed at people like you and I who are

4. Well said!

22. Never ending condemnation. Can't live wituout it. It's become pointless. n/t

23. Yes, it moves no one, achieves nothing...

55. It's Orwellian, the way they treat demonizing Obama as an end in itself.

108. Excellent, succinct OP with it all in one piece. Thanks for writing it and the reply.

5. Single initiative?

26. +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

35. And that's the truth, I voted for him twice, but not a third time even

41. +1

48. Yep you too can be one with the BOG.

115. ...

204. What the hell is "BOG"? Did Infowars get tired of their conspiracy theories about "ZOG"

218. No it is like the BORG with a missing letter.

225. Let me guess how that happened.

241. No my reference was a play on a Star Trek episode