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Archae

(46,318 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:52 AM May 2012

It's not just Christians who cover up the chld molesters...

The fundy Jews are doing it too.

Ultra-Orthodox Shun Their Own for Reporting Child Sexual Abuse

James Estrin/The New York Times

By SHARON OTTERMAN and RAY RIVERA

Published: May 9, 2012

The first shock came when Mordechai Jungreis learned that his mentally disabled teenage son was being molested in a Jewish ritual bathhouse in Brooklyn. The second came after Mr. Jungreis complained, and the man accused of the abuse was arrested.

Old friends started walking stonily past him and his family on the streets of Williamsburg. Their landlord kicked them out of their apartment. Anonymous messages filled their answering machine, cursing Mr. Jungreis for turning in a fellow Jew. And, he said, the mother of a child in a wheelchair confronted Mr. Jungreis’s mother-in-law, saying the same man had molested her son, and she “did not report this crime, so why did your son-in-law have to?”

By cooperating with the police, and speaking out about his son’s abuse, Mr. Jungreis, 38, found himself at the painful forefront of an issue roiling his insular Hasidic community. There have been glimmers of change as a small number of ultra-Orthodox Jews, taking on longstanding religious and cultural norms, have begun to report child sexual abuse accusations against members of their own communities. But those who come forward often encounter intense intimidation from their neighbors and from rabbinical authorities, aimed at pressuring them to drop their cases.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/nyregion/ultra-orthodox-jews-shun-their-own-for-reporting-child-sexual-abuse.html?_r=1

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It's not just Christians who cover up the chld molesters... (Original Post) Archae May 2012 OP
It is well known that abusers insert themselves into situations where they can take advantage of jwirr May 2012 #1
Any sufficiently unified group often overlooks in-group wrongdoing dmallind May 2012 #2

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
1. It is well known that abusers insert themselves into situations where they can take advantage of
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:55 AM
May 2012

children - churches, organization that have child members, schools, sports groups, etc. They are everywhere and so it does not surprise me to find them all over. The real problem you are talking about is the coverups. When this is done all the way to the top of the organization then they are very guilty of the very crime they are trying to cover up.

I helped investigate (as a social worker) sexual abuse in my church body. We were careful at first to make sure the accusation was correct and then we confronted it on two fields - through the law and through counseling for the victim. The individual church body was held responsible for hiring the idiot and sued. In this those of us who investigated supported the victims and their families totally because we are against abuse in any form.

Unfortunately when the top covers it up the victim is further victimized and the perp finds justification in what he/she is doing.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
2. Any sufficiently unified group often overlooks in-group wrongdoing
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:01 PM
May 2012

Cops tend not to report bribery or brutality as much as they could.

Soldiers tend not to report ROE deviations as much as they should.

These are strongly unified groups for a reason, with a huge mental separation between "us" and "them".

But to not report boy-buggering, it really seems to help if Gawd Almighty is the separator of "us" and "them". That or college football, anyway, which to some people has much the same role.

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