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bigtree

(85,984 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:05 PM May 2015

Sanders Shames CEOs Lecturing 'America' on the Economy

from Politicususa:


Sen. Bernie Sanders fired back at 80 CEOs who wrote a letter lecturing America about deficit reduction by released a report detailing how 18 of these CEOs have wrecked the economy by evading taxes and outsourcing jobs.

80 CEO’s raised the ire of Sen. Sanders by publishing a letter in the Wall Street Journal urging America to act on the deficit, and reform Medicare and Medicaid.

Sen. Sanders responded to the lecture from America’s CEO’s by releasing a report that detailed how 18 of them have helped blow up the deficit and wreck the economy by outsourcing jobs and evading US taxes.

Sanders said,

There really is no shame. The Wall Street leaders whose recklessness and illegal behavior caused this terrible recession are now lecturing the American people on the need for courage to deal with the nation’s finances and deficit crisis. Before telling us why we should cut Social Security, Medicare and other vitally important programs, these CEOs might want to take a hard look at their responsibility for causing the deficit and this terrible recession.

Our Wall Street friends might also want to show some courage of their own by suggesting that the wealthiest people in this country, like them, start paying their fair share of taxes. They might work to end the outrageous corporate loopholes, tax havens and outsourcing provisions that their lobbyists have littered throughout the tax code – contributing greatly to our deficit.

Many of the CEO’s who signed the deficit-reduction letter run corporations that evaded at least $34.5 billion in taxes by setting up more than 600 subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and other offshore tax havens since 2008. As a result, at least a dozen of the companies avoided paying any federal income taxes in recent years, and even received more than $6.4 billion in tax refunds from the IRS since 2008.

Several of the companies received a total taxpayer bailout of more than $2.5 trillion from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department.

Many of the companies also have outsourced hundreds of thousands of American jobs to China and other low wage countries, forcing their workers to receive unemployment insurance and other federal benefits. In other words, these are some of the same people who have significantly caused the deficit to explode over the last four years.


Here are the 18 CEO’s Sanders labeled job destroyers in his report...

read: http://www.politicususa.com/2012/10/25/bernie-sanders-exposes-18-ceos-trillions-bailouts-evaded-taxes-outsourced-jobs.html#.VVkMEMPMRsh.facebook
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Sanders Shames CEOs Lecturing 'America' on the Economy (Original Post) bigtree May 2015 OP
Of course those CEO's will never need medicare or SS n2doc May 2015 #1
And serve on each others' Boards of Directors. closeupready May 2015 #5
Amen..... daleanime May 2015 #10
Except my gazillionaire BIL, Paka May 2015 #33
Pigs gotta oink. nt valerief May 2015 #59
Lol snort May 2015 #60
I wonder if the working class will ever revolt and take back the zillions that was stolen from them. olegramps May 2015 #72
Give 'em hell Bernie! kenfrequed May 2015 #2
The problem with living in a golden bubble, especially the pres candidates erronis May 2015 #27
Agreed kenfrequed May 2015 #30
K&R for something that needs lots of visibility. bullwinkle428 May 2015 #3
He Probably Let Some of The Other 62 Slide, Too ProfessorGAC May 2015 #4
In the wake of the Philly train derailment moondust May 2015 #6
+1 daleanime May 2015 #9
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #7
YES! daleanime May 2015 #8
If we were actually a democratic republic kacekwl May 2015 #11
The real, "Takers!" Dustlawyer May 2015 #12
Love it, and I know we'll see more and more of this. NYC_SKP May 2015 #13
He HAS! staggerleem May 2015 #79
President Obama referred to them SamKnause May 2015 #14
He also called the torturers "patriots". cui bono May 2015 #38
K&R Scuba May 2015 #15
Go Bernie! Expose the lying liars and the taking class. Initech May 2015 #16
K & R mountain grammy May 2015 #17
This is why Bernie MUST be Preaident Sanders. He's the Exilednight May 2015 #18
Bernie!! AzDar May 2015 #19
wow, he names names! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #20
Exactly! This is going to be a freakin' amazing campaign! Even if just for the knowledge! arcane1 May 2015 #52
really!! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #53
+10000000 woo me with science May 2015 #64
If not on the ballot, I will write in his name. nt Javaman May 2015 #21
I am with you on that one. Paka May 2015 #34
Here is a list from Citizens for Tax Justice turbinetree May 2015 #22
we need a special CEO asshole tax. at least 60% on ALL their monee. no investments dodge. pansypoo53219 May 2015 #23
Please visit the link, but I want their names listed publically here too: Moostache May 2015 #24
We need a modern day Public Enemy list, and these guys should be at the top. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2015 #41
+1 nt laundry_queen May 2015 #65
And what does tennstar May 2015 #25
I was wondering what her response to the Oligarch's letter is, too. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #26
He will never get $250,000 a speech if he keeps this up! QC May 2015 #28
Indeed! arcane1 May 2015 #54
+1000 blackspade May 2015 #29
18 elite assholes maindawg May 2015 #31
Pitchforks and torches do not seem nearly enough hifiguy May 2015 #36
I was thinking knives and forks, myself. Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #39
There HAS to be an island somewhere in the middle of nowhere hifiguy May 2015 #40
I think New Guinea used to be pretty good for that. Or maybe it was headhunters. Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #43
Send them to that brand-new Japanese island. They can be truly self-made there n/t arcane1 May 2015 #55
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast May 2015 #49
Talk about "a sense of entitlement". Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #32
Bernie needs to stop attacking Hillary's campaign donors. He's just jealous. L0oniX May 2015 #35
a post literally dripping with sarcasm Voice for Peace May 2015 #76
This needs to have more press than the CEO's lecture!!! Martin Eden May 2015 #37
WE NEED BERNIE IN THE WHITE HOUSE! woo me with science May 2015 #42
...! KoKo May 2015 #44
+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #47
K&R! lordsummerisle May 2015 #45
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #46
K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #48
K and R bigwillq May 2015 #50
Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #51
Needs more eyeballs DJ13 May 2015 #56
K&R JEB May 2015 #57
K&R mvd May 2015 #58
Why does a candidate have to say this? Haven't we got a Democratic President already? n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #61
K&R ReRe May 2015 #62
kick woo me with science May 2015 #63
K&R nt raouldukelives May 2015 #66
another K&R They_Live May 2015 #67
K&R. Well said. Overseas May 2015 #68
k&r - n/t Buenaventura May 2015 #69
CEO's dpatbrown May 2015 #70
Kicked ever further . . . . HughBeaumont May 2015 #71
Question: Does HRC stand with Sen Sanders on this or the CEO's. rhett o rick May 2015 #73
I believe you NorthCarolina May 2015 #74
Well... kenfrequed May 2015 #77
Hillary hasn't yet made ANY policy statements. staggerleem May 2015 #80
The fact that she hasn't made it clear that she won't cut benefits makes me nervous. rhett o rick May 2015 #83
Thanks! kenfrequed May 2015 #84
So glad Hillary wrote this whatchamacallit May 2015 #75
Just goes to show how impractical and unrealistic Mr Sanders is. malthaussen May 2015 #78
They have no shame, these Wall St crooks, do they? Good for Bernie for exposing them for what they sabrina 1 May 2015 #81
How quickly we forget ... staggerleem May 2015 #82
This old man rocks! d_legendary1 May 2015 #85
I fear for his safety. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #86
These fuck wads only pay $118,000 on FiCA taxes. And for the deficit, it's a 4th of what was since YOHABLO May 2015 #87

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. Of course those CEO's will never need medicare or SS
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:09 PM
May 2015

Fuckers have golden packages already lined up.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
5. And serve on each others' Boards of Directors.
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:34 PM
May 2015

You gotta give it to them - they know how to take care of each other. Just not their workers.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
33. Except my gazillionaire BIL,
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:21 PM
May 2015

a CEO with Standard Oil still takes his over $2,000/month SS and maxes out medicare whenever he can.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
72. I wonder if the working class will ever revolt and take back the zillions that was stolen from them.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:28 AM
May 2015

Probably not, until they are driven into absolute desperation. I can only dream and I don't have that much more time in which to hope to see some justice.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
2. Give 'em hell Bernie!
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:18 PM
May 2015

It is amazing how these CEO's seem to justify their own greed and want to demonize the poor.

erronis

(15,219 posts)
27. The problem with living in a golden bubble, especially the pres candidates
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:36 PM
May 2015

They only hear each other and their well-funded lackey consultants.

They are generally beholden to con artists like Adelman and Koch(s) who can waggle their index fingers and have these courtiers kissing something.

We can either overthrow this new set of self-proclaimed royalty through a democratic process or through a much more unpleasant process. If the democratic one is plugged there will be some relief.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
30. Agreed
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:08 PM
May 2015

Also, there have been some studies done on privelage and the weird way people justify their wealth or privelages. I should try to find a link.

ProfessorGAC

(64,971 posts)
4. He Probably Let Some of The Other 62 Slide, Too
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:31 PM
May 2015

The 18 he hits did the most damage. This doesn't mean there aren't others in the remaining 62 who were on the same trajectory, just to a lesser impact.

moondust

(19,971 posts)
6. In the wake of the Philly train derailment
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:34 PM
May 2015

some corporations have apparently complained that decaying infrastructure is a bad thing for the economy. I noticed that one of those corporations was GE, which I believe has a negative tax rate, and there may be others on the list that do not help fund infrastructure maintenance.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
11. If we were actually a democratic republic
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:47 PM
May 2015

this would lead the news and information media stories daily.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. Love it, and I know we'll see more and more of this.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:25 PM
May 2015

I can't wait til he actually launches his campaign.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
79. He HAS!
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:47 PM
May 2015

As far as I know, it's Jeb Bush who hasn't "officially" announced yet - and that's only so he can maintain control of the donations his PACs are receiving for as long as possible.

Talk about obeying the letter of a law while essentially pissing on the intent of that law. Jeb is blatantly attending campaign events and making speeches, but he's not, technically, "campaigning" ... yet! Yeah, that's the kinda President we need - NOT!

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
14. President Obama referred to them
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:25 PM
May 2015

as the best and the brightest.

I see his phone a friend and BFF Jamie Dimon is on the list.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
18. This is why Bernie MUST be Preaident Sanders. He's the
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:45 PM
May 2015

Only one running who would date chastise these 80 in a public setting.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
34. I am with you on that one.
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:25 PM
May 2015

Come 2016, Bernie is who I will vote for no matter who the nominee is. Go Bernie go!

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
22. Here is a list from Citizens for Tax Justice
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:54 PM
May 2015

with a list of what some oligarchs paid in taxes:

"Companies Represent Diverse Economic Sectors

The companies profiled here represent a range of segments of the U.S. economy:

Broadcaster CBS Corporation enjoyed $1.8 billion in U.S. profits last year, and received a federal income tax rebate of $235 million.

Doll-maker Mattel, which has paid zero federal income taxes over the past five years, received a tax rebate of $46 million in 2014.

The financial services corporation Prudential avoided all federal income taxes on its $3.5 billion in U.S. profits in 2014.

Ryder System, which provides truck rentals and services, paid a negative 0.3 percent federal income tax rate in 2014 and over the past five years a negative 0.5 percent rate.

California-based utility PG&E had negative tax rates both in 2014 and over the five-year period.

All 15 companies’ effective federal income tax rates for 2014 and the five-year period between 2010 and 2014 are shown in the table below:"

http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2015/04/fifteen_of_many_reasons_why_we_need_corporate_tax_reform.php#.VVuGf0Yeo0U


http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2015/04/the_us_is_one_of_the_least_taxed_developed_countries.php#.VVuGmkYeo0U






Moostache

(9,895 posts)
24. Please visit the link, but I want their names listed publically here too:
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:04 PM
May 2015
http://www.politicususa.com/2012/10/25/bernie-sanders-exposes-18-ceos-trillions-bailouts-evaded-taxes-outsourced-jobs.html#.VVkMEMPMRsh.facebook

1). Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan
2). Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein
3). JP Morgan Chase CEO James Dimon
4). General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt
5). Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam
6). Boeing CEO James McNerney, Jr.
7). Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
8). Honeywell International CEO David Cote
9). Corning CEO Wendell Weeks
10). Time Warner CEO Glenn Britt
11). Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier
12). Deere & Company CEO Samuel Allen
13). Marsh & McLennan Companies CEO Brian Duperreault
14). Qualcomm CEO Paul Jacobs
15). Tenneco CEO Gregg Sherill
16). Express Scripts CEO George Paz
17). Caesars Entertainment CEO Gary Loveman
18). R.R. Donnelly & Sons CEO Thomas Quinlan III


I personally view their signatures on the Wall Street Journal piece as tantamount to a signed confession.
This is one list you don't want to be on if society fails...

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
41. We need a modern day Public Enemy list, and these guys should be at the top.
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:49 PM
May 2015

Al Capone had nothing on these criminals. And if they're not technically criminals, it's because they've bought the politicians to make their egregious behavior legal.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
31. 18 elite assholes
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:14 PM
May 2015

the deficit to explode over the last four years.
Here are the 18 CEO’s Sanders labeled job destroyers in his report. (All data from Top Corporate Dodgers report.)

1). 1. Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $1.9 billion tax refund.
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? Over $1.3 trillion.
Amount of federal income taxes Bank of America would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.6 billion.

2). Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $278 million tax refund.
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $824 billion.
Amount of federal income taxes Goldman Sachs would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.7 billion




3). JP Morgan Chase CEO James Dimon
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $416 billion.
Amount of federal income taxes JP Morgan Chase would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.9 billion.

4). General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $3.3 billion tax refund.
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve? $16 billion.
Jobs Shipped Overseas? At least 25,000 since 2001.

5). Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $705 million tax refund.
American Jobs Cut in 2010? In 2010, Verizon announced 13,000 job cuts, the third highest corporate layoff total that year.

6). Boeing CEO James McNerney, Jr.
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? None. $124 million tax refund.
American Jobs Shipped overseas? Over 57,000.
Amount of Corporate Welfare? At least $58 billion.

7). Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
Amount of federal income taxes Microsoft would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $19.4 billion.

8). Honeywell International CEO David Cote
Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $34 million tax refund.

9). Corning CEO Wendell Weeks
Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $4 million tax refund.

10). Time Warner CEO Glenn Britt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $74 million tax refund.

11). Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $55 million tax refund.

12). Deere & Company CEO Samuel Allen
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $1 million tax refund.

13). Marsh & McLennan Companies CEO Brian Duperreault
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $90 million refund.

14). Qualcomm CEO Paul Jacobs
Amount of federal income taxes Qualcomm would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.7 billion.

15). Tenneco CEO Gregg Sherill
Amount of federal income taxes Tenneco would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $269 million.

16). Express Scripts CEO George Paz
Amount of federal income taxes Express Scripts would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $20 million.

17). Caesars Entertainment CEO Gary Loveman
Amount of federal income taxes Caesars Entertainment would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $9 million.

18). R.R. Donnelly & Sons CEO Thomas Quinlan III
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $49 million tax refund.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
39. I was thinking knives and forks, myself.
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:46 PM
May 2015

But what sentient creature could eat any of them without gagging?

(I sometimes ponder such things as I make sure that the wheels on the tumbrel are nicely lubricated.)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
40. There HAS to be an island somewhere in the middle of nowhere
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:49 PM
May 2015

where there are vicious cannibals roaming around. Parachute them all in, with condiments. For the cannibals to use as they see fit.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
43. I think New Guinea used to be pretty good for that. Or maybe it was headhunters.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:07 PM
May 2015

Either way, sounds like a win-win to me.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
35. Bernie needs to stop attacking Hillary's campaign donors. He's just jealous.
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:59 PM
May 2015

Obviously Bernie is a Repuke. A real DLC corporate centrist would be helping those poor CEO's who create tons of jobs for the USA. Why doesn't he know that it takes big money to win elections? He needs better handlers and consultants. He needs to stop listening to poor people. They don't contribute to political campaigns anyway. To top it all ...why doesn't he get some hair transplants?

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
76. a post literally dripping with sarcasm
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:56 AM
May 2015

LOL

Do you think he's got a seriously smart security team?
These guys don't mess around.

mvd

(65,169 posts)
58. K&R
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:22 PM
May 2015

You tell em Bernie! I am with him all the way. My parents will be Hillary supporters, but they don't dislike Bernie - they are just older and more set in their ways with the Party. I'm just glad my dad is a good Democrat since his parents always voted straight Republican.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
62. K&R
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:08 AM
May 2015

Thanks, bigtree, and go Bernie! Not just political slogans. My only question: Was this reply (to the WSJ CEO letter) published as a LTE in the WSJ?

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
70. CEO's
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:25 AM
May 2015

Corporation's greedy CEO's ( and the stockholders) have ONLY one concern, make as much money as possible, regardless of the effects to this country. Shameful. There should be a law that states that if they move ONE job overseas they have to move to that country and forfeit their citizenship, period.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
73. Question: Does HRC stand with Sen Sanders on this or the CEO's.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:48 AM
May 2015

Last edited Wed May 20, 2015, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

This is an important issue. On whose back should the budget be balanced? The American people via cuts to Medicare and Medicaid? or the greedy CEO's that are ripping us off?

It's clear where Sen Sanders stands. But I think HRC will stand with her close personal friends, the CEO's. She has told them in the near past that she thought that criticism of the banksters was foolish. And she is willing to accept billions of donations from those CEO's.

Stupid question time: Why would a Democrat support a candidate that may cut Medicare and Medicaid?

On edit: H.Clinton hasn't, as far as I know, said she will "cut" Medicare or Medicaid benefits. Nor has she pledged not to cut those benefits as far as I know. If you know, plez enlighten me. But, having said that, there will be a great deal of pressure on her to balance the budget on the backs of the people by cutting benefits as the CEO's have identified. Remember, these CEO's will be among the billionaires that will be donating an estimated $2 billion dollars to ensure she gets elected.

My point is that why not vote for Sen Sanders and then you won't have to worry?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
77. Well...
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:53 PM
May 2015

While I think Hillary might not be a good candidate and I think her closeness to the banks is a big problem, I don't think I had heard of her actually supporting cutting Medicare and Medicaid. Did she actually support that? I am fairly sure I would have heard of it. If there isn't any solid evidence could you maybe edit out the last line?



 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
80. Hillary hasn't yet made ANY policy statements.
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:51 PM
May 2015

All we've heard from the Clinton camp are platitudes, not policy. And don't hold your breath waiting for any real substance to emerge, either - even Olympic swimmers can't hold their breath THAT long.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
83. The fact that she hasn't made it clear that she won't cut benefits makes me nervous.
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:11 PM
May 2015

Why take that chance, vote for Sen Sanders. I did edit my above post for clarification.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
84. Thanks!
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:23 PM
May 2015

I am an ardent supporter of Bernie here in Minnesota and I believe he can win. I think it is important that we all stay as positive as possible and avoid taking any bait or falling for any bad arguments that don't deal with substantive policy.

I watch Bernie's interviews, especially the recent one with Wolf Blitzer recently and I continue to be impressed how he just puts forth good policy and doesn't get bogged down with personal stuff or suckered into bad positions.

The TPP is already an issue and I think we can judge our candidates based on their positions on that.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
78. Just goes to show how impractical and unrealistic Mr Sanders is.
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:16 PM
May 2015

There's 18 respected captains of industry who won't be writing any checks to his campaign.

Wait a second... they weren't going to be writing him any checks to begin with.

-- Mal

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
81. They have no shame, these Wall St crooks, do they? Good for Bernie for exposing them for what they
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:55 PM
May 2015

are, tax cheats, welfare kings, many of whom should be in jail, they certainly should not be lecturing ANYONE on ANYTHING, they should be hiding in one of their many mansions GRATEFUL that they got away with it all.

But psychopaths do not feel the normal emotions of others and won't stop until they are stopped.

Bailing them out only encouraged them to continue their criminal ways.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
82. How quickly we forget ...
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:57 PM
May 2015

... and that is what the "banksters" bank ON!

Has anyone else pointed out that Bernie's report is a RE-release, and was initially released PRIOR to the 2012 election?

Bernie is no "newbie" when it comes to pointing out bankster hypocrisy. He could run his entire campaign just by quoting from his own past.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
85. This old man rocks!
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:36 PM
May 2015

Bankers: "Trust us! We're businessmen and we're rich!"

Sanders: "Some of you assholes caused this mess by being tax cheats!"

Bankers: "Well...we never said we were HONEST businessmen, did we?"

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
87. These fuck wads only pay $118,000 on FiCA taxes. And for the deficit, it's a 4th of what was since
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:43 PM
May 2015

Obama became President. No thanks to any of them. They're full of bull and MSM is probably not covering this.

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